I am now, a Sr. Network Engineer. But before doing this, I have been everything from a system admin, to a security engineer, to a coder/developer. For me, drawing up on past experience is a total necessity because in the time I've been doing this, I *HAVE* seen it all.
From recreating scripts to poll routers, to re-writting perl scripts that poll servers, this is all stuff I've seen/wrote/used before. And even in a larger magnitude, setting up policies or procedures for doing things which I implemented elsewhere. If *I* came up with them, why should someone else tell me I can't use them because I came up with them while I was employed by them?
Sorry, that would be infringing on my ability to earn a living.
Sorry, no offense, but that is bullshit. I started off on slackware, downloaded 50 floppies worth over 3 days on a 14.4 and never looked back
Ditto that here! Although my first install was only 36 floppies who someone else pained over the download, it was still the *BEST* way for me to learn *REAL* system administration of a Linux system. None of this crap of packages and utils to disable daemons.. if you don't want something starting, then 'vi' your/etc/rc.d/rc.* files damnit!;)
On a lighter note, and more as a suggestion.. Ordering the CD from the site.. umm.. maybe they can put all the options together in a single page so that I can just order without having to go through 5 pages before the order is placed.. can't you use the extra bandwidth for something more usefull? Quake? Pr0n? Just a suggestion..
Can't wait to get it though..
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Maybe now we can have Slackware in the/. polls again...
Actually, someone else pointed out that it was Aristotle.
His actual quote is: "We can never have too much of a good thing."
Which of course is due to the fact that either we no longer appreciate it, destroy it, or it destroys us.
There are plenty of examples I could list in which moderation is a good thing. Excess of something destroys it's essence. But of course, we're not here for morality lessons, we want news for nerds..;)
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Those who educate children well are more to be honored than parents,
for these only gave life, those the art of living well.
-- Aristotle
Sun must still address is how to increase their adoption in the corporate sector
Remember Apple? They gave away free Mac's to schools. After the students graduated, a good portion of them found that since they were already used to using Mac's, it was easier for them to buy a Mac than it was to get a PC.
Sun is thinking the same way.
They're going to give it away to schools, the same schools where the future admins/managers/workers are coming from. If the admin/manager/worker has already worked with StarOffice and is comfortable with it, they will be more apt to push for that solution rather than paying $x+xxx for the M$ solution.
It's almost like drugs.. at first, you give it away for free. Eventually, they'll get hooked on it and come pay you for more!;)
Sure, for a civilization that is used to ~70 degree weather with nice ocean breezes, it's hard to imagine other life forms residing in these planets. But if we just open up our minds and realize there are living organisms thousands of feet beneath the ocean waves, a place where most scientists would call "less than hospitable", the chances of other life forms existing increase.
Of course, if my girlfriend showed up to any of these places first, there is no chance any intelligent life forms are left.
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When you have nothing nice to say, post on slashdot...
Under the 'management team', they have this guy listed. Here is what it says:
Bruce McIndoe was the founder & CEO of CSSi, an Inc.500 and four-time Washington Technology FAST 50 company that developed intelligence collection and processing systems for various national intelligence organizations. Bruce was one of the lead architects for the National Security Agency's Echelon II program, identified as one of the most productive intelligence programs in the agency's history. He was also a major contributor to the Future Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) Systems Architecture Program, several major Communications Security (COMSEC) programs and numerous technical programs. After successfully growing CSSi to 150 people and $17 million in annual revenues, Bruce sold the company to Nichols Research Corporation where he became VP Enterprise Applications and then VP Sales & Marketing with Nichols InfoTec. Prior to joining iJET, he was President of B2B Web Solutions specializing in supply chain automation using the Internet and XML technologies. Bruce holds an M.S. in Computer Science from Johns Hopkins University and is a trustee of Allegheny College, where he received his B.S. in Physics.
Call me skeptical, but if it's so secret, why would they allow someone to be flaunting the fact that they built it? Wouldn't that make this guy a major target for kidnapping or something like that?
And unless his World Link ($7.95/day one week minimum) can warn him when someone is approaching him with intentions of harming him, I don't think the NSA would allow it.
After the upgrade from Win2k to XP, someone forgot to turn off the 'Auto Update' feature. The systems last night decided to download and install the IE rollup patch and now their IE can't run the AirPorter.v1.jar.
The bright side of the story is that the air traffic controllers will no longer be able to have their AOL instant messenger open due to compatability issues, which makes sure their focus will be on the planes flying about.
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Don't piss me off or I'll write a shell script to do your job..
At many times, I think to myself "These laws will never pass.. they have got to have at least some brain up there..."
But as history has shown, they __CAN__ pass these laws. And they have. And unless we start a fund to buy ourselves our own politician, know that the RIAA and MPAA are saying "All your politicians are belong to us!".
We do need to be vocal about this, but not just in/.land. We need to contact our representatives and let them know how we feel, but we need to do it intelligently and respectfully. No trolling allowed.
Assimilated Press (2002) - ROBOT OWNERS beware. Hackers recently started infiltrating Sony's Aibo robot dogs and have reprogrammed them to be fight dogs. In the latest incident, a 14 year old child was attacked and mangled by his pet robot.
Yoshi Yanamura, speaking on conditions of anynomity said "this is the reason we didn't want anyone reprogramming the robots. This was totally expected. Good thing we didn't include the 10 MegaJule laser add-on, then we would really have problems".
Sony Corporation says the best way to protect yourself is to not recharge the robots after you have been attacked.
When after sitting down for 36 hours straight when I first learned to program in C, I wrote a small, but usefull, payroll program. By the end, during the function that would print out the check, I added "Press any key to continue, any other key to abort". Lucky for me I never released that program.
--- All comments are not factual unless stated otherwise.
I don't doubt you. I have a lot of respect for them individually, and as a whole. But I think their focus has changed from the old l0pht mentality to the new corporate one. And although they might be corporate now, I am not saying they're any less smarter than they used to be. Just their priorities have changed.
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A fool must now and then be right by chance. Right?
You guys have one of the most respected names in the industry. It would be a sinch for you guys to step into that arena and basically begin to lead it. Maybe you guys should consider it.
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Due to the lagging economy, this.sig will soon be out of business.
I would say that first you should think of who NOT to contact. I would definitely say stay away from ISS and @Stake.
Find someone who actually gives back to the community, such as packetstorm or the such.
You might also consider Security Focus and places like that.
I'm not sure what your actual goal is, but if it is to actually secure things instead of having a bunch of monkeys come in and take some money from you, then places like that will have the best results.
And try to stay away from those who will require you to buy something, and subscribe to something else in order for you to be secure. ACLs on routers and removing unnecessary services/daemons, and patching those that you need will do a lot more than a firewall from acme security.
--- "Security is a process, not an event". -Some smart person
1) Digital Copyright Millenium Act?
2) Dude Can't Make Anything?
3) Do Clues Move Around?
4) The Digital Millenium Copyright Act misspelled?
If it was misspelled once, I can understand that. Twice means someone is having an ID 10T error. Three times means somenoe seriously needs to get laid.
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The views in this.sig are not valid in some states.
And then we'll end up with one company not only collecting that extra $25-$30, but also charging Joe Schmoe an additional $45 to dispose of his PC.
This is what has happened with bottles. I don't know about anywhere else other than here in the bay area, but now, scavenger companies are charging to haul away recyclables.
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Keep you Eye on the Ball,
Your Shoulder to the Wheel,
Your Nose to the Grindstone,
Your Feet on the Ground,
Your Head on your Shoulders.
Now... try to get something DONE!
Yes, actually there was, but it was not the wires running to a wodden shed nearby that detered the theives, it was the AS/400 with the satelite dish mounted in the trunk that looked suspicious to most.
Although some were caught contemplating it by the television crew parked next to the car, no one seemed to raise the courage to attempt stealing the car.
Of course, it could have just been stage frieght...
--- Swiss Cheese - The ultimate paradox.
The more cheese, the more holes. The more holes, the less cheese. Therefore, the more cheese, the less cheese.
This is the perfect response from google. It's about time people learned what the internet is all about, and stop whining that their crappy stuff somehow made it on the net in the first place.
I mean come on.. google creates a crawler that goes out and finds stuff, they list on their site what they find, and now clueless morons want to make them responsible for having links to that information?????
Security through obscurity.. yeah.. that'll keep em out!
Slashdot Mirror
And thus is answered the age-old question, 'does God read Slashdot?'
;)
Well, I am not God, but I do play God at work..
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Universe, n.:
The problem.
I am now, a Sr. Network Engineer. But before doing this, I have been everything from a system admin, to a security engineer, to a coder/developer. For me, drawing up on past experience is a total necessity because in the time I've been doing this, I *HAVE* seen it all.
From recreating scripts to poll routers, to re-writting perl scripts that poll servers, this is all stuff I've seen/wrote/used before. And even in a larger magnitude, setting up policies or procedures for doing things which I implemented elsewhere. If *I* came up with them, why should someone else tell me I can't use them because I came up with them while I was employed by them?
Sorry, that would be infringing on my ability to earn a living.
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IANAL, but if I were, we'd all be in trouble!
Sorry, no offense, but that is bullshit. I started off on slackware, downloaded 50 floppies worth over 3 days on a 14.4 and never looked back
/etc/rc.d/rc.* files damnit! ;)
/. polls again...
Ditto that here! Although my first install was only 36 floppies who someone else pained over the download, it was still the *BEST* way for me to learn *REAL* system administration of a Linux system. None of this crap of packages and utils to disable daemons.. if you don't want something starting, then 'vi' your
On a lighter note, and more as a suggestion.. Ordering the CD from the site.. umm.. maybe they can put all the options together in a single page so that I can just order without having to go through 5 pages before the order is placed.. can't you use the extra bandwidth for something more usefull? Quake? Pr0n? Just a suggestion..
Can't wait to get it though..
---
Maybe now we can have Slackware in the
Okay, the first post topic was funny, but the funniest part which actually went along with the story was the tagline...
"Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Good"
Yes, they hear you loud and clear!!
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There is no time like the present for postponing what you ought to be doing.
Actually, someone else pointed out that it was Aristotle.
;)
His actual quote is: "We can never have too much of a good thing."
Which of course is due to the fact that either we no longer appreciate it, destroy it, or it destroys us.
There are plenty of examples I could list in which moderation is a good thing. Excess of something destroys it's essence. But of course, we're not here for morality lessons, we want news for nerds..
---
Those who educate children well are more to be honored than parents, for these only gave life, those the art of living well. -- Aristotle
If you do not have enough laws, you would end up with chaos. If you have too many, then you are oppressing the people.
All in moderation, as one smart person said.. but I'm too dumb to remember who said it.
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If God had meant for us to be naked, we would have been born that way.
put subliminal messages in the repeated tracks
Why would any one create such a bandwidth killing deception that would endure the test of time and space???
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(((In Stereo Where Available)))
Sun must still address is how to increase their adoption in the corporate sector
;)
Remember Apple? They gave away free Mac's to schools. After the students graduated, a good portion of them found that since they were already used to using Mac's, it was easier for them to buy a Mac than it was to get a PC.
Sun is thinking the same way.
They're going to give it away to schools, the same schools where the future admins/managers/workers are coming from. If the admin/manager/worker has already worked with StarOffice and is comfortable with it, they will be more apt to push for that solution rather than paying $x+xxx for the M$ solution.
It's almost like drugs.. at first, you give it away for free. Eventually, they'll get hooked on it and come pay you for more!
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I think, therefore I think I am.
Flatulence?
No, just a complete inability to think logically.
Sure, for a civilization that is used to ~70 degree weather with nice ocean breezes, it's hard to imagine other life forms residing in these planets. But if we just open up our minds and realize there are living organisms thousands of feet beneath the ocean waves, a place where most scientists would call "less than hospitable", the chances of other life forms existing increase.
Of course, if my girlfriend showed up to any of these places first, there is no chance any intelligent life forms are left.
---
When you have nothing nice to say, post on slashdot...
Under the 'management team', they have this guy listed. Here is what it says:
.dethgirypoc si gis sihT
Bruce McIndoe was the founder & CEO of CSSi, an Inc.500 and four-time Washington Technology FAST 50 company that developed intelligence collection and processing systems for various national intelligence organizations. Bruce was one of the lead architects for the National Security Agency's Echelon II program, identified as one of the most productive intelligence programs in the agency's history. He was also a major contributor to the Future Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) Systems Architecture Program, several major Communications Security (COMSEC) programs and numerous technical programs. After successfully growing CSSi to 150 people and $17 million in annual revenues, Bruce sold the company to Nichols Research Corporation where he became VP Enterprise Applications and then VP Sales & Marketing with Nichols InfoTec. Prior to joining iJET, he was President of B2B Web Solutions specializing in supply chain automation using the Internet and XML technologies. Bruce holds an M.S. in Computer Science from Johns Hopkins University and is a trustee of Allegheny College, where he received his B.S. in Physics.
Call me skeptical, but if it's so secret, why would they allow someone to be flaunting the fact that they built it? Wouldn't that make this guy a major target for kidnapping or something like that?
And unless his World Link ($7.95/day one week minimum) can warn him when someone is approaching him with intentions of harming him, I don't think the NSA would allow it.
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After the upgrade from Win2k to XP, someone forgot to turn off the 'Auto Update' feature. The systems last night decided to download and install the IE rollup patch and now their IE can't run the AirPorter.v1.jar.
The bright side of the story is that the air traffic controllers will no longer be able to have their AOL instant messenger open due to compatability issues, which makes sure their focus will be on the planes flying about.
---
Don't piss me off or I'll write a shell script to do your job..
Couple of issues with this post.
1) His last name is Spielberg. What was your grade in spelling?
2) The fact that he is trying to get his degree does not mean that he can't go on without it.
Bill Gates does not have a degree.. maybe if he goes back to school he can learn how to double his money eh?
I don't have a degree and I spell better than you..
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((( In Stereo for the Hearing Impaired )))
At many times, I think to myself "These laws will never pass.. they have got to have at least some brain up there..."
/.land. We need to contact our representatives and let them know how we feel, but we need to do it intelligently and respectfully. No trolling allowed.
But as history has shown, they __CAN__ pass these laws. And they have. And unless we start a fund to buy ourselves our own politician, know that the RIAA and MPAA are saying "All your politicians are belong to us!".
We do need to be vocal about this, but not just in
Become a member of The Electronic Frontier Foundation or of one of the other sites mentioned in the article. Let your voice be heard!!
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Strong with you, the force be. -Yoda
Assimilated Press (2002) - ROBOT OWNERS beware. Hackers recently started infiltrating Sony's Aibo robot dogs and have reprogrammed them to be fight dogs. In the latest incident, a 14 year old child was attacked and mangled by his pet robot.
Yoshi Yanamura, speaking on conditions of anynomity said "this is the reason we didn't want anyone reprogramming the robots. This was totally expected. Good thing we didn't include the 10 MegaJule laser add-on, then we would really have problems".
Sony Corporation says the best way to protect yourself is to not recharge the robots after you have been attacked.
---
If I only had a brain...
When after sitting down for 36 hours straight when I first learned to program in C, I wrote a small, but usefull, payroll program. By the end, during the function that would print out the check, I added "Press any key to continue, any other key to abort". Lucky for me I never released that program.
---
All comments are not factual unless stated otherwise.
The @Stake guys are real Pros
I don't doubt you. I have a lot of respect for them individually, and as a whole. But I think their focus has changed from the old l0pht mentality to the new corporate one. And although they might be corporate now, I am not saying they're any less smarter than they used to be. Just their priorities have changed.
---
A fool must now and then be right by chance. Right?
You guys have one of the most respected names in the industry. It would be a sinch for you guys to step into that arena and basically begin to lead it. Maybe you guys should consider it.
.sig will soon be out of business.
---
Due to the lagging economy, this
I would say that first you should think of who NOT to contact. I would definitely say stay away from ISS and @Stake.
Find someone who actually gives back to the community, such as packetstorm or the such.
You might also consider Security Focus and places like that.
I'm not sure what your actual goal is, but if it is to actually secure things instead of having a bunch of monkeys come in and take some money from you, then places like that will have the best results.
And try to stay away from those who will require you to buy something, and subscribe to something else in order for you to be secure. ACLs on routers and removing unnecessary services/daemons, and patching those that you need will do a lot more than a firewall from acme security.
---
"Security is a process, not an event". -Some smart person
Is it:
.sig are not valid in some states.
1) Digital Copyright Millenium Act?
2) Dude Can't Make Anything?
3) Do Clues Move Around?
4) The Digital Millenium Copyright Act misspelled?
If it was misspelled once, I can understand that. Twice means someone is having an ID 10T error. Three times means somenoe seriously needs to get laid.
---
The views in this
And then we'll end up with one company not only collecting that extra $25-$30, but also charging Joe Schmoe an additional $45 to dispose of his PC.
... try to get something DONE!
This is what has happened with bottles. I don't know about anywhere else other than here in the bay area, but now, scavenger companies are charging to haul away recyclables.
---
Keep you Eye on the Ball,
Your Shoulder to the Wheel,
Your Nose to the Grindstone,
Your Feet on the Ground,
Your Head on your Shoulders.
Now
I have yet to send email to someone who refuses to read/accept it because it was not PGP encrypted.
Then you have never attempted to submit a vulnerability or links to fixed software to CERT.
I believe their approach is "if we make it hard for them to email us, we won't have to work so hard!"
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I'm not an expert, but I play one at work.
Yes, actually there was, but it was not the wires running to a wodden shed nearby that detered the theives, it was the AS/400 with the satelite dish mounted in the trunk that looked suspicious to most.
Although some were caught contemplating it by the television crew parked next to the car, no one seemed to raise the courage to attempt stealing the car.
Of course, it could have just been stage frieght...
---
Swiss Cheese - The ultimate paradox.
The more cheese, the more holes. The more holes, the less cheese.
Therefore, the more cheese, the less cheese.
This is the perfect response from google. It's about time people learned what the internet is all about, and stop whining that their crappy stuff somehow made it on the net in the first place.
I mean come on.. google creates a crawler that goes out and finds stuff, they list on their site what they find, and now clueless morons want to make them responsible for having links to that information?????
Security through obscurity.. yeah.. that'll keep em out!
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" - anonymous
.. That Timothy posted the origial article.. maybe someone should lay off the booze before lunch? ;}
Original story here.