I personally think it should be taken one step further than that. All organized religion should be treated with utter contempt.
That's an interesting thought, I'd like to hear more. Actually, no, I'll just blindly follow your authority. Could I give you money? If I treat all other organized religions with utter contempt, maybe declaring a holy war against them, will I go to some type of pleasurable afterlife?
And what are they even having them do in these camps, build the theta monitors?
Worse! From TFA:
By age 16, Lindstein says, he was working for Golden Era Productions, Scientology's film production company, restoring Hubbard's films from the 1970s. He says he often worked 24-hour days at the "tedious, frame-by-frame work that would normally cost more than $400,000 per movie to accomplish at industry rates."
Not sure which part of that would be more hellish, the long tedious work for slave wages... or having to watch movies by the guy who wrote "Battlefield Earth."
Ah, the old "if you don't like this, leave" argument. Funny how you leftists cried foul when the rightists made that argument but now use it yourselves. Fucking hypocrites.
It's worth pointing out that this is far from the first time "love it or leave it" has been turned around on someone who said it. I'm guessing the first time someone said something similar on american soil was the first people to walk across Beringia 25,000 years ago, and whoever said it probably had it said to them 24,999 years ago.
It's also worth pointing out that one side of the political spectrum calling the other side of the political spectrum "hypocrites" is pretty ridiculous.
Because now Veri$on will be able to disconnect anybody for any reason under the pretext of breaking a rule. Quite convenient. Same with government and the thousands of laws.
Yup, my prediction is that criticizing Verizon, posting something about shit that Verizon does, or advising others not to sign up with Verizon will count as "off-topic."
Is it so hard to give enough information to find the actual publication that has the important details? I'm taking it as a given that the Telegraph can't be bothered to explain -how- this is different from earlier muscle cell cultures, but at least they could give me enough info to find articles that will tell me that. I mean, did these researchers actually publish a real paper in a peer-reviewed journal or did they just bypass that and go straight to the telegraph?
What's new about this?
Muscle cells have apperantly been cultured since 1968, although there isn't much about whether or not these cells proliferate in culture. A paper from 1988 claims to have gotten progenitor cells to turn into muscle cells in culture.
This article, still not a paper, from scientific american suggests that at least one Dutch researcher is interested in turning embryonic stem cells into meat. Those cultures don't last very long either according to the article: "Unfortunately, Roelen's cultures only survive a few months before they sputter, failing to reproduce because of genetic problems—their chromosomes become deformed or cells end up with too many copies. His group also works with adult stem cells extracted from skeletal muscle—a direct approach for in vitro meat."
I guess this might be the article in question, Roelen reports isolating a progenitor cell type that can be directed to either increase their numbers or turn into muscle cells. That’s almost a year old though. This article is more likely the one that sparked the telegraph article, the lab discusses factors that affect that culture system.
Post, quoted in the telegraph article, doesn't appear to be too directly involved, his research interests seem more about blood vessels and I couldn’t find any papers from his lab that looked relevant, but I didn’t do an exhaustive search on pubmed.
I'm a grad student, and I would volunteer to taste it. Depending on what was in the culture media that is (no viral transfection seems to have been used). I also probably would boil it first.
No, evidence that there is a movement afoot by the US government to undermine the freedom and liberties of citizens of the world.
By "US government" you mean "several international corporations". They're not -quite- the same thing, for the time being. Both sides are working to various degrees to change that though.
Someone enlighten me: how hard would it be for someone to fake this on either end, someone downloading it on something faking the "iphone 3.1" or someone at ibart playing a prank?
If you're in a small single-engine craft, in waters off the coast of Somalia, and you continue to approach any large commercial vehicle despite repeated auditory warnings, you deserve to be obliterated.
Also, how many legit fisherman are trolling the pirate infested waters near Somalia in the first place? These pirates don't really sound like they target just international shipping corporations, I'd -assume- a single engine craft in international waters off the coast of Somalia is either a pirate vessel or is a vessel that is about to be taken by pirates in the near future.
It does effect readers. It makes Wikipedia less useful for anything that might have a political aspect, which means that I think about using Wiki much less generally than I might.
Political bias in wiki has been a problem as long as I've heard of wiki. Years ago, the page on George W Bush was vandalized on average once every 5 minutes or something like that. Everything that is topical will suffer from biases too. More traditional encyclopedias might be better with political bias, but it's a tradeoff since obviously many topics in traditional encyclopedias are less comprehensive.
So yes, it would be foolish to use wiki as your only source when political bias is a concern, but using -anything- as your only source would likewise be foolish.
Even with the present concerns and admin abuse at wiki, I've got to think on average, one is better off reading up on wiki than on, say, Fox news.
Xenophobic much? If Google wants to customise their service depending on which country they're serving, it's their own [censored] business. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to use anything Google related. It's not like the US is perfect either.
Xenophobic? Industrialcomplex seemed to be suggesting that google simply not cater to the -local government's- demands when those demands violate human rights. You're basically equating advocacy of human rights with xenophobia, which is absurd. Xenophobia would be saying "Google should prevent users in China from using their services at all."
Cultural imperialism might make a little more sense, but the things I assume he was talking about, helping the chinese government with their censoring activities, aren't really cultural, and anyway if part of your culture is violating human rights, I say fuck your culture. If, say, Saudi arabia were to ask google to help them keep their women off the internet, I would hope that google would at least say "Yeah... no." if not launch a special section specifically for saudi women to find what their government didn't want them seeing.
Not expecting that from a company that doesn't exist to further human rights, but I would be dissapointed if Google went along with that.
With administrators like that, it's no wonder the "encyclopedia" is failing fast
Failing fast? Keep in mind that this isn't affecting readers yet, just growth, which was inevitable. All populations go through a rapid expansion followed by a leveling off. Wiki might be there now. Doesn't mean it's going to crash. Just a sign that it's no spring chicken.
I'm confused, even though you made a pizza analogy (maybe there's a reason we stick with car metaphors). I from the summary and press release, I thought unite was mostly for sharing stuff between your devices, not with other people or as a social networking... thing... I was under the impression that there were plenty of, er, cloud services where you could put your files on the cloud and then share them with one person instead of everyone.
Without any context --- e.g., our biochemistry, amino acid structure, nature of DNA --- this message amounts to about the worst practical joke in the history of interstellar communication.
But it is probably also the -best- practical joke in -our-history of interstellar communication. How many other interstellar practical jokes have we played?
It has a relatively non-random structure, so clearly must mean something, and yet they'll never figure it out.
It might just be a lack of imagination on my part, but I can't picture an organism evolving without some type of intrinsic code. If we got such a code, we'd probably realize that it was something similar to nucleotide sequences and that we didn't have all the tools to do anything with it.
Your argument comes down to two things, one of which is cost. You argue that spending the money on preventing climate change rather than on "alpha centauri" would be a waste. I don't buy it. Forcing ourselves to look into cleaner technology, carbon cutting measures, and efficiency could just as easily be as beneficial to our long-term goals. Continuing on our current course might just lead to richer energy executives.
I hear will-power and the notion of a life plagued by health problems followed by an early death completed clinical trials sixty years ago. What's more, there are no side effects, and when taken properly, there is a 100% chance of success.
Sure, but there are people who don't have willpower, and while there's something to be said for consequences, there's also something to be said along the lines of "smokers who don't quit will cause everyone else's health-care costs to indirectly go up."
I'm not trying to open a can of worms: that's true no matter what health insurance system you have, reform or not. The only way we don't all end up paying somewhat for their health-care is if we were to decide they're barred from any health-care at all. (I'm not advocating that either.)
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I personally think it should be taken one step further than that. All organized religion should be treated with utter contempt.
That's an interesting thought, I'd like to hear more. Actually, no, I'll just blindly follow your authority. Could I give you money? If I treat all other organized religions with utter contempt, maybe declaring a holy war against them, will I go to some type of pleasurable afterlife?
...so how much do I now owe the church of scientology for reading that?
And what are they even having them do in these camps, build the theta monitors?
Worse! From TFA:
By age 16, Lindstein says, he was working for Golden Era Productions, Scientology's film production company, restoring Hubbard's films from the 1970s. He says he often worked 24-hour days at the "tedious, frame-by-frame work that would normally cost more than $400,000 per movie to accomplish at industry rates."
Not sure which part of that would be more hellish, the long tedious work for slave wages... or having to watch movies by the guy who wrote "Battlefield Earth."
Ah, the old "if you don't like this, leave" argument. Funny how you leftists cried foul when the rightists made that argument but now use it yourselves. Fucking hypocrites.
It's worth pointing out that this is far from the first time "love it or leave it" has been turned around on someone who said it. I'm guessing the first time someone said something similar on american soil was the first people to walk across Beringia 25,000 years ago, and whoever said it probably had it said to them 24,999 years ago.
It's also worth pointing out that one side of the political spectrum calling the other side of the political spectrum "hypocrites" is pretty ridiculous.
Because now Veri$on will be able to disconnect anybody for any reason under the pretext of breaking a rule. Quite convenient. Same with government and the thousands of laws.
Yup, my prediction is that criticizing Verizon, posting something about shit that Verizon does, or advising others not to sign up with Verizon will count as "off-topic."
You people at Verizon are a bunch of asswipes.
You must be new here. On slashdot, that ain't flaming or spamming, that's preaching to the choir.
What do you think?
Mostly whether or not a "first post" would have been on topic yet gotten me flagged by verizon, and whether this post is off topic or on topic.
Zen for the internet age right there.
– so he’d have to be extradited, unless he foolishly decided to come here for some reason
Dude LOVES In N Out burger. I don't know if you've ever had it, but 16 million is a small price to taste In N Out again.
That's like one guy who said "My best friends' girlfriend wants to sleep with me - should I do it so I can show him what a sl*t she is?"
Of course, why actually sleep with her when you can just brag about her offer on slashdot!
If you falsify the MAC or provide wrongful data, you get life in prison.
Noob question: was that hyperbole? I can never tell when talking about laws, especially ones that the mafIAA has pushed though.
It's time to reinforce the concept that I am responsible for my actions, and nobody else.
Well yeah, but you probably have less money than the pub does, so going after the pub is better.
Wait, were we talking about what gets us the most money or something silly like what is fair and logical?
Sincerely,
Big Content
Is it so hard to give enough information to find the actual publication that has the important details? I'm taking it as a given that the Telegraph can't be bothered to explain -how- this is different from earlier muscle cell cultures, but at least they could give me enough info to find articles that will tell me that. I mean, did these researchers actually publish a real paper in a peer-reviewed journal or did they just bypass that and go straight to the telegraph?
What's new about this?
Muscle cells have apperantly been cultured since 1968, although there isn't much about whether or not these cells proliferate in culture. A paper from 1988 claims to have gotten progenitor cells to turn into muscle cells in culture.
This article, still not a paper, from scientific american suggests that at least one Dutch researcher is interested in turning embryonic stem cells into meat. Those cultures don't last very long either according to the article: "Unfortunately, Roelen's cultures only survive a few months before they sputter, failing to reproduce because of genetic problems—their chromosomes become deformed or cells end up with too many copies. His group also works with adult stem cells extracted from skeletal muscle—a direct approach for in vitro meat."
I guess this might be the article in question, Roelen reports isolating a progenitor cell type that can be directed to either increase their numbers or turn into muscle cells. That’s almost a year old though. This article is more likely the one that sparked the telegraph article, the lab discusses factors that affect that culture system.
Post, quoted in the telegraph article, doesn't appear to be too directly involved, his research interests seem more about blood vessels and I couldn’t find any papers from his lab that looked relevant, but I didn’t do an exhaustive search on pubmed.
I'm a grad student, and I would volunteer to taste it. Depending on what was in the culture media that is (no viral transfection seems to have been used). I also probably would boil it first.
No, evidence that there is a movement afoot by the US government to undermine the freedom and liberties of citizens of the world.
By "US government" you mean "several international corporations". They're not -quite- the same thing, for the time being. Both sides are working to various degrees to change that though.
Someone enlighten me: how hard would it be for someone to fake this on either end, someone downloading it on something faking the "iphone 3.1" or someone at ibart playing a prank?
If you're in a small single-engine craft, in waters off the coast of Somalia, and you continue to approach any large commercial vehicle despite repeated auditory warnings, you deserve to be obliterated.
Also, how many legit fisherman are trolling the pirate infested waters near Somalia in the first place? These pirates don't really sound like they target just international shipping corporations, I'd -assume- a single engine craft in international waters off the coast of Somalia is either a pirate vessel or is a vessel that is about to be taken by pirates in the near future.
It does effect readers. It makes Wikipedia less useful for anything that might have a political aspect, which means that I think about using Wiki much less generally than I might.
Political bias in wiki has been a problem as long as I've heard of wiki. Years ago, the page on George W Bush was vandalized on average once every 5 minutes or something like that. Everything that is topical will suffer from biases too. More traditional encyclopedias might be better with political bias, but it's a tradeoff since obviously many topics in traditional encyclopedias are less comprehensive.
So yes, it would be foolish to use wiki as your only source when political bias is a concern, but using -anything- as your only source would likewise be foolish.
Even with the present concerns and admin abuse at wiki, I've got to think on average, one is better off reading up on wiki than on, say, Fox news.
Xenophobic much? If Google wants to customise their service depending on which country they're serving, it's their own [censored] business. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to use anything Google related. It's not like the US is perfect either.
Xenophobic? Industrialcomplex seemed to be suggesting that google simply not cater to the -local government's- demands when those demands violate human rights. You're basically equating advocacy of human rights with xenophobia, which is absurd. Xenophobia would be saying "Google should prevent users in China from using their services at all."
Cultural imperialism might make a little more sense, but the things I assume he was talking about, helping the chinese government with their censoring activities, aren't really cultural, and anyway if part of your culture is violating human rights, I say fuck your culture. If, say, Saudi arabia were to ask google to help them keep their women off the internet, I would hope that google would at least say "Yeah... no." if not launch a special section specifically for saudi women to find what their government didn't want them seeing.
Not expecting that from a company that doesn't exist to further human rights, but I would be dissapointed if Google went along with that.
With administrators like that, it's no wonder the "encyclopedia" is failing fast
Failing fast? Keep in mind that this isn't affecting readers yet, just growth, which was inevitable. All populations go through a rapid expansion followed by a leveling off. Wiki might be there now. Doesn't mean it's going to crash. Just a sign that it's no spring chicken.
So does this compete with string theory or have a chance modifying it to an eventual theory of everything?
I don't know, but either way they won't teach it in Kansas if you put it like that.
I can finally read that Japanese Slashdot?
The moderation system over there is a bit different. My japanese slashdot karma bonus? IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAANNND!!!!
I'm confused, even though you made a pizza analogy (maybe there's a reason we stick with car metaphors). I from the summary and press release, I thought unite was mostly for sharing stuff between your devices, not with other people or as a social networking... thing... I was under the impression that there were plenty of, er, cloud services where you could put your files on the cloud and then share them with one person instead of everyone.
Without any context --- e.g., our biochemistry, amino acid structure, nature of DNA --- this message amounts to about the worst practical joke in the history of interstellar communication.
But it is probably also the -best- practical joke in -our-history of interstellar communication. How many other interstellar practical jokes have we played?
It has a relatively non-random structure, so clearly must mean something, and yet they'll never figure it out.
It might just be a lack of imagination on my part, but I can't picture an organism evolving without some type of intrinsic code. If we got such a code, we'd probably realize that it was something similar to nucleotide sequences and that we didn't have all the tools to do anything with it.
Your argument comes down to two things, one of which is cost. You argue that spending the money on preventing climate change rather than on "alpha centauri" would be a waste. I don't buy it. Forcing ourselves to look into cleaner technology, carbon cutting measures, and efficiency could just as easily be as beneficial to our long-term goals. Continuing on our current course might just lead to richer energy executives.
I hear will-power and the notion of a life plagued by health problems followed by an early death completed clinical trials sixty years ago. What's more, there are no side effects, and when taken properly, there is a 100% chance of success.
Sure, but there are people who don't have willpower, and while there's something to be said for consequences, there's also something to be said along the lines of "smokers who don't quit will cause everyone else's health-care costs to indirectly go up."
I'm not trying to open a can of worms: that's true no matter what health insurance system you have, reform or not. The only way we don't all end up paying somewhat for their health-care is if we were to decide they're barred from any health-care at all. (I'm not advocating that either.)