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iPhone 3.1 Spotted In Field Testing

kai_hiwatari writes "Digitizor reports that the next generation of the iPhone was spotted in the analytics log of an iPhone app called iBart. The device, it seems, was identified as iPhone 3.1 in the log. When iPhone 2.1 was spotted, it was followed by iPhone 3G."

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  1. News Flash by Akido37 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Company is developing follow-up product to an existing successful product!!

    Details at 11.

    1. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      News Flash (Score:3, Insightful)
      by Akido37 (1473009) on Monday November 30, @11:05AM (#30270608)

      Company is developing follow-up product to an existing successful product!!
      Details at 11.

      Come on now. Don't keep us waiting.

    2. Re:News Flash by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 3, Funny

      You've just identified yourself as being in EST. Now, I'm one timezone closer to robbing your house.

      http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/30/0359216

    3. Re:News Flash by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Someone enlighten me: how hard would it be for someone to fake this on either end, someone downloading it on something faking the "iphone 3.1" or someone at ibart playing a prank?

    4. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You fell into my trap by listing a standard timezone during daylight savings time. I am now much closer to finding you since I know you are in an area that doesn't recognize daylight savings. Now I can rob your house while you rob that coward in EDT.

    5. Re:News Flash by datapharmer · · Score: 1

      not hard at all. Safari allows you to do this under the developer tools. Just select Develop > user agent > other and put in a UA string of your choosing.

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    6. Re:News Flash by Tetsujin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Someone enlighten me: how hard would it be for someone to fake this on either end, someone downloading it on something faking the "iphone 3.1" or someone at ibart playing a prank?

      Well, you see, the iPhone has a lockout system that prevents people from doing anything with the device apart from buying programs on the app store... This lockout system is guaranteed unsinkable, so it is entirely impossible that anyone could cause their iPhone to report false information... ...Well, there was a "pretend to be iPhone 3.1" app released, but it was rejected from the app store...

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    7. Re:News Flash by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      how hard would it be for someone to fake this on either end, someone downloading it on something faking the "iphone 3.1" or someone at ibart playing a prank?

      Here's a better question: why would anyone bother to do that?

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    8. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Normally, I'd agree with you that this is not news. However, with Apple, this type of fanboi news is the only way to know that they're doing *anything* because they're so tight lipped.

    9. Re:News Flash by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Many people are asshats. I'm quite surprised you haven't noticed.

    10. Re:News Flash by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Informative

      Also, they really need to fix this summary. it should be "iPhone3,1", not "iPhone 3.1". The first is the format for an Apple product identifier. The second is likely to be confused with an iPhone OS version number that is already shipping to the general public and has been for several months.

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    11. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, another victim of my grand scheme. You see, as anyone in an area that observes daylight savings knows, we're not IN daylight savings time right now. You, obviously, don't know that, meaning you don't observe it, and from everything else you've said so far, I can quickly conclude you're in Arizona.

      My automated RobYourHouseBots will be deployed to everywhere in Arizona now. I've finally got you!

    12. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OR grew up in mountain or eastern time zones and still just says it that way. I grew up in central and still said news at 11 even though it was at 10...

    13. Re:News Flash by Wowsers · · Score: 1

      iPhone 3.1...... hopefully it'll be better than Windows 3.1 was?! Or are we to avoid version number comparison?

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    14. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He may be in an area that recognizes DST but doesn't observe it during the "winter" months (like North America). Now that you have that narrowed down... Good luck! I will be robbing you as you are in an area that observes DST during the winter (South America and Australia are where I will start). I will find you, and you shall RUE the day! Yes, RUE!

    15. Re:News Flash by mi · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here's a better question: why would anyone bother to do that [Alter their browser's UserAgent setting -mi]?

      Dunno about you... I usually have my Konqueror's setting to something like No one here but us, squirrels - 3.0 VMS 19-bit. If a particular site breaks from that, I make an exception for them (and try to avoid them, for it annoys me, when sites have browser-specific rules/content.)

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    16. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Enjoy your new 486.

    17. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, any information on when we can get a camera in the iPod Touch? Any information on when Intel Core i7's will be available in MacBook Pro's?

      Personally, I'm holding on to my 4th gen iPod until the Touch gets a camera. I'm holding on to my G4 PowerBook until I can get a Core i7 MacBook Pro.

    18. Re:News Flash by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      That and 10 years difference in technology...

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    19. Re:News Flash by sbeckstead · · Score: 1

      I'm holding on to the hope that someday these news articles will be interesting and some of the replies relevant...

    20. Re:News Flash by sbeckstead · · Score: 1

      why do we care?

    21. Re:News Flash by u38cg · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's amusing. I quite often set my user agent to whatever the latest bit of vapourware is, or to a Commodore 16. Every once in a while, I get a bite and some blogmaster posts something like "MOG [sic] I've been surfed by a Microsoft Surface" or whatever. It gives me a little frisson of pleasure.

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    22. Re:News Flash by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Dunno about you... I usually have my Konqueror's setting to something like No one here but us, squirrels - 3.0 VMS 19-bit. If a particular site breaks from that, I make an exception for them (and try to avoid them, for it annoys me, when sites have browser-specific rules/content.)

      And how exactly do you install the iBart application using Konqueror so that it reports that it's running on iPhone 3.1?

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    23. Re:News Flash by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      OK, but would you go through the trouble of hacking your iPhone into identifying itself as a different version so that when you download and run an app and it reports the version back you can get a little laugh?

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    24. Re:News Flash by mdwh2 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Slashdot Editor #1: "Oh crap, I can't think of anything for today's Iphone story. Maybe post a story about someone doing something, where he just happens to use an Iphone? Nope already done it."

      Slashdot Editor #2: "Maybe a story about some random website, and we can say how you can use your Iphone to access a website? Oh wait, we did that one too."

      Slashdot Editor #1: "Ah I know - quick, fake up an Iphone new version and put it in my server logs. Instant story!"

      But I've got to say - despite the constant spam (Apple send enough unsolicited spam to my inbox), it is interesting to see how people can keep coming up with a story, for every single day. What will it be tomorrow? "Man phones person in another country - uses an Iphone"? "How to get laid, by emailing girls - On Your Iphone"? "Google Maps - which is now available on the Iphone - doesn't show your mom's basement"?

    25. Re:News Flash by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting for the story tomorrow, when iphone 6,9 is discovered in the wild.

    26. Re:News Flash by Architect_sasyr · · Score: 1

      Hello Lucifer? Yes, it is me. No, I haven't finished the recruitment yet. Oh right, why I was calling, was just wondering if you wanted me to pick you up some mittens before I got back to the pit? No? Alright then.

      Sorry sbeckstead, looks like you're going to have to wait a while.

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    27. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man in Black: All right. Where is the person? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both try to rob, and find out who is right... and who has been robbed.
      Vizzini: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the actual time zone into his post? Now, a clever man would put the actual time zone into his post, because he would know that only a great fool would list his actual time zone. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not assume the time zone is correct. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly assume the time zone is correct.
      Man in Black: You've made your decision then?
      Vizzini: Not remotely. Because Daylight Savings Time is not observed in Arizona, as everyone knows, and Arizona is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly assume the time zone is incorrect.
      Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
      Vizzini: Wait til I get going! Now, where was I?
      Man in Black: Arizona.
      Vizzini: Yes, Arizona. And you must have suspected I would have known the Daylight Savings Time rules, so I can clearly assume the time zone is correct.

    28. Re:News Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DoWhatIWant() DoIFaster(Function), eg. DoItFaster(DoWhatIWant())

      Error: Command 'DoItFaster' not recognized

    29. Re:News Flash by mi · · Score: 1

      And how exactly do you install the iBart application using Konqueror so that it reports that it's running on iPhone 3.1?

      I don't need to install iBart (whatever that is) — or any other "foo" — to tell the world, I'm using it... The browser's UserAgent string was the only thing, that led the site in TFA to conclude, they had a visit from iPhone-3.1...

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  2. Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone by jandrese · · Score: 4, Funny

    Important update: Its version number is 1 higher than the old one!

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  3. Big deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New phones are in the works from RIM, Nokia, HTC, and lots of other companies all the time.

    STFU fanbois...

  4. It'd be bigger news by Peregr1n · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...if Apple WEREN'T bringing out a new iPhone sometime next year. An annual cycle is predictable; some manufacturers would consider it TOO long between launches.

  5. Re:Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone by Whalou · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait for Mac OS XI: This one goes to eleven!

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  6. Figures... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    With more and more providers getting the iPhone, it seems like Apple just isn't feeling exclusive enough. Time to make a new version.

    1. Re:Figures... by earnest+murderer · · Score: 1

      There isn't much lef that is meaningfull for them to do before it turns into a real damn computer.

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    2. Re:Figures... by RedK · · Score: 1

      No, this timeframe is very normal. They always have the next iPhone model ready 6 months in advane for a June-July release, so it can go through FCC approval, and they can announce before it does. Same reason the original iPhone was introduced and functionnal late 2006 but only shipped June 2007.

      This is just the normal product cycle for the iPhone.

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  7. LIKE ZOMFG!!!! by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only thing that could make this, like, even more awesome is if it were being used by Britney Spears!!!!!!11!

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    1. Re:LIKE ZOMFG!!!! by sqldr · · Score: 1

      surely Chuck Norris

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    3. Re:LIKE ZOMFG!!!! by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      Don't let Mr. Norris here you say that.

    4. Re:LIKE ZOMFG!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, get with the times. You meant Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez or a Jonas brother.

    5. Re:LIKE ZOMFG!!!! by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Dude, get with the times. You meant Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez or a Jonas brother.

      Ooh, maybe it IS a Jonas brother, which gives us a valuable clue as to the changes we can expect... I got it! The killer feature of iPhone 3.1 is it can also act as an insulin pump!

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    6. Re:LIKE ZOMFG!!!! by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Funny

      Chuck Norris doesn't use a cell phone. He uses a brick with a note attached.

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    7. Re:LIKE ZOMFG!!!! by weirdcrashingnoises · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is that he uses a jailbroken iPhone?

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  8. Original link here... by Anonymusing · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...at MacRumors. Relevant quote:

    References to "iPhone3,1" was first discovered in the iPhone firmware files back in August, but this seems to be the first time that it has been spotted "in the wild". Apple similarly began testing the iPhone 3GS (iPhone2,1) back in October of 2008 about 8 months ahead of its launch. At the time, the usage was similarly focused in the San Francisco Bay Area where Apple is located.

    So, if history repeats itself, the actual product will be released sometime in April or May.

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    1. Re:Original link here... by Anonymusing · · Score: 1

      ...or, uh, around July. (since I apparently cannot count this morning)

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  9. who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I sure as fuck don't.

    1. Re:who cares? by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Funny

      How can you not care? It's so shiny :)

    2. Re:who cares? by cerberusss · · Score: 4, Funny

      I sure as fuck don't.

      OOOh! Technology, apathy and profanity -- all rolled into one little golden nugget!

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    3. Re:who cares? by baker_tony · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I care so little, I don't even add comments to articles...

    4. Re:who cares? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      who cares?
      I sure as fuck don't.

      Oh, boo hoo. It's Slashdot's fault you couldn't scroll past the story instead of spending 20 seconds plus CAPTCHA to say you don't care. I don't like FireFox, Windows 7, or Google, so I'm going to go into their threads and post that I don't care and get modded up for it.

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    5. Re:who cares? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 0, Troll

      here comes whining fanbois. FFS - we do expect certain standards here. And if that's too much to ask, at least a little self-respect from Taco. Fanboism is one thing, but posting this on main page?

    6. Re:who cares? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FFS - we do expect certain standards here. And if that's too much to ask, at least a little self-respect from Taco. Fanboism is one thing, but posting this on main page?

      Slashdot is ad-driven. Bitching about a story is supporting the story. Ask where it's helpful to ask instead of asking where the opposite of what you want will happen. There are far too many stories about Google here for you to not understand how this works.

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    7. Re:who cares? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 3, Informative

      Um, start your own fucking site?

      Slashdot has ALWAYS been about things of personal interest to the editors. We have a LEGO icon, FFS, why? Because one of the founders likes Lego stories. And I'm fine with that.

      Don't like it, GTFO, instead of bitching about how you feel entitled to have your "standards" met.

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    8. Re:who cares? by p51d007 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Exactly! You have to give Apple credit though. They released a phone that had NO MMS & no copy paste (something I use DAILY), and had people standing in line. Sometimes I think their marketing is so good, they could release "pile of dog poop 2.0" and people would line the blocks to get it.

    9. Re:who cares? by spintriae · · Score: 1

      OOOh! Technology, apathy and profanity -- all rolled into one little golden nugget!

      Slap an Apple logo on it and watch it hit the front page of /.

    10. Re:who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it is Slashdot...

    11. Re:who cares? by mdwh2 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      If I had to wait years behind everyone else to get 3G, I'd guess I'd be waiting in line too.

      If this new version supports copy and paste finally, I guess people will wait in line for that :)

      (I do agree with you though - lots of niche computer platforms have had this behaviour. Apple benefit in the phone market because this behaviour carries over, however unfortunately some people get deluded into thinking that everyone behaves in this fan/geek behaviour, and think Apple are the market leader, despite not being remotely close, or that the Iphone was the only phone to do basic things like Internet access.)

    12. Re:who cares? by mdwh2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Yeah, but if you have to read literally daily stories about one of those products, no matter how trivial (in this case, a non-news item based on rumour, that even if it was true, tells us nothing other than the bleeding obvious that they are developing new products), you might get annoyed, or simply wonder why such disproportionate advertising was being given to them.

      And your comparison is flawed - Firefox, Windows, Google have much bigger market share than the Iphone. The third problem with your argument is that there is virtually no coverage of any of the larger players in the phone market. A better analogy would be getting daily coverage of, I don't know, Opera, whilst never giving any coverage to IE or Firefox.

      I can see it now: "New Opera user agent string spotting in field testing!" Is that news, do you think? And do you think it would make sense to have those kind of stories, whilst not having any stories even when a full version of IE or Firefox is officially actually released?

    13. Re:who cares? by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, but if you have to read literally daily stories about one of those products, no matter how trivial (in this case, a non-news item based on rumour, that even if it was true, tells us nothing other than the bleeding obvious that they are developing new products), you might get annoyed, or simply wonder why such disproportionate advertising was being given to them.

      Yeah, I know, I was one of the people bitching about the constant Mozilla posts on Slashdot many moons ago. My bitching didn't work.

      I can see it now: "New Opera user agent string spotting in field testing!" Is that news, do you think?

      Get enough Opera enthusiasts actively perusing the site and, sorry to tell you this, but yes, front-page material. Slashdot runs on ad-views. That's why we also were presented with stories about installing Linux on a dead badger, fictional tales of Microsoft throwing Sony out of a trade show, and Ask Slashdot articles for people who don't know how to use Google. You're not going to like hearing this, but there are a number of people on this site interested in what Apple's going to do next. Same is true for anything Google does and anything Microsoft does. (Not sure why marketshare has anything to do with that, even people who hate Microsoft post in Microsoft threads.)

      I'll summarize my point for you. Bitching doesn't discourage Slashdot from posting the stories. Meanwhile, you're being fed stories you care about that others don't. Life's unfair. Boo hoo.

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    14. Re:who cares? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And As a reader, I do have right to let editors know what I like and don't. If you don't like it, don't reply. Now GTFO.

      See? It works both ways.

    15. Re:who cares? by Guy+Harris · · Score: 2, Informative

      If this new version supports copy and paste finally

      iPhone OS 3.1 supports copy-and-paste. Heck, iPhone OS 3.0 supports copy-and-paste. Presumably iPhone 3,1 will run iPhone OS 3.x or a future release, and will support copy-and-paste, just as every other damn iPhone on the planet running iPhone OS 3.x supports it, even my old iPhone 1,0 or whatever the first one was.

      (I.e.: 1) "supports copy and paste" is a function of the OS rather than the device and 2) the OS has supported it since the 3.0 release. 3.x also supports MMS on 3G iPhones if the phone company allows it.)

    16. Re:who cares? by mdwh2 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Oh, I don't doubt that this place has become overrun with Apple fans, I just wish that Slashdot would be upfront about it and call it Appledot, rather than pretending that this was still primarily about Linux and open source. Obviously when an Apple site posts stories everyday about the Iphone, it's normal.

      So yes, thanks for agreeing that this place is now Appledot.

      (And actually, even if this was an Apple site, this story would really be a non-news scraping the barrel item.)

      Life's unfair. Boo hoo.

      Eh? When did I say life's unfair? That should be directed at the pro-Apple fans, who whine when there isn't enough coverage, or throw a wobbly everytime somepone posts something negative about their beloved company - just look at how my post gets modded down. Slashdot moderation has long been broken on Apple stories for this reason.

    17. Re:who cares? by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      PS - the Mozilla analogy is flawed. The market share of Firefox dwarfs the Iphone market share many times over. And did it really get to the ridiculous state of having daily Mozilla stories, including extremely trivial non-news items? (E.g., "You can now view this one website ... On Mozilla"? Or "Person did something, oh and he happens to use Mozilla"?

      Also consider how many Apple fans whine everytime once in a blue moon there's an article about something they don't like, such as the Amiga. Suddenly the "but people want to hear about it" doesn't apply. They can't have it both ways, so it's fair game to criticise Apple stories.

    18. Re:who cares? by mdwh2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Ah great, welcome to the 2000s.

      But wait - when the Iphone lacked these features, we had no end of "But the Iphone is better off without copy/paste and MMS, it has better paradigms to do these things (but I can't explain what), and what makes Apple so great is that they remove the clutter of items it thinks you don't want". So are we now agreed that the Iphone is worse because it has these features? Or do they concede that this argument was, as I believed all along, nonsense?

      The point still stands though - when copy/paste and MMS came out, the fact that people queued in line for them doesn't show Apple are great, it shows that people wanted the "new" (for the Iphone) features.

    19. Re:who cares? by Guy+Harris · · Score: 1

      But wait - when the Iphone lacked these features, we had no end of "But the Iphone is better off without copy/paste and MMS, it has better paradigms to do these things (but I can't explain what), and what makes Apple so great is that they remove the clutter of items it thinks you don't want".

      From Apple, or from idiot fanboys? (Wait, isn't "idiot fanboys" redundant?)

      The point still stands though - when copy/paste and MMS came out, the fact that people queued in line for them doesn't show Apple are great, it shows that people wanted the "new" (for the Iphone) features.

      If people queued in line for a new iPhone, when they already had an iPhone, when copy/paste and MMS came out, either they wanted something the new hardware offered (3G and/or GPS), or they were apparently completely unaware that they could just do a software update on their existing iPhone to get copy/paste and do a software update on their existing iPhone 3G (although, if their carrier was AT&T, they'd have to do a software update and wait for AT&T to get its act together) to get MMS.

      If they queued in line for their first iPhone when copy/paste and MMS came out, that might, or might not, have been because they didn't want the iPhone before its OS supported those features because those features were a requirement. It could also have been, for example, because they wanted 3G and/or GPS, and the earlier iPhone had neither.

      However, the poster to whom you replied said people queued up for iPhones before copy/paste or MMS were available, not that they queued up when they were made available. Perhaps that shows that there are people for whom those features might be nice, but not necessary (I'm glad I can do copy-and-paste now, but I wasn't suffering intolerably without it, and I've never been tempted to use MMS - which is good, considering I have a Boring Old 2G iPhone which doesn't do MMS even with the latest release and carrier settings; the only 3.0 feature that really made a difference to me was access to CalDAV servers, as it gave me access to the corporate calendar server).

    20. Re:who cares? by simplexion · · Score: 1

      Why would you queue in line for an unlimited product...

    21. Re:who cares? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      Of course you have the right.

      You have the right to be a pretentious asshat pretending to speak for others ("we do expect certain standards here").

      That doesn't mean you should.

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    22. Re:who cares? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 1

      While you can speak for the editors? How rich of you!

    23. Re:who cares? by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1

      A couple points, champ.

      1) Defending yourself against criticism by accusing your opponent of the same is a fucking weak-ass fallacy. A favourite of politicians, in fact.

      2) I don't claim to speak for the editors. Would you like a source?

      Slashdot is a very open community; in the user comments our readers are free to say whatever they please. But we feel that the unique nature of Slashdot is largely because the contents of the homepage are determined by a handful of people.

      I'm sure a very cool website could be developed based on the concept of allowing public voting to determine the content of the homepage, but that website wouldn't be "Slashdot". If we tried to do it "by committee" it would suffer from the same problem that most projects done by committee suffer from: it would get bland.

      Let me put this another way: in the comments, any pro-Linux or anti-MS comment is probably gonna get rated up. Any time Microsoft does anything even slightly naughty, it gets submitted 50 times. Does that mean that it should be posted to the Slashdot homepage? For me personally, I don't want to read the "Bitch at Microsoft" website, but if ruled by popular consensus, Slashdot would very likely degenerate to this point. Since the days of Chips & Dips and the first days of Slashdot, my first goal has always been to post stories that I thought were interesting. I think a lot of people share my idea of interesting, and that's part of why Slashdot became successful.

      Slashdot is an eclectic mix of stories maintained by a small group of people, but contributed to by anyone who wants to. I think that the personality and character of Slashdot is part of the fun and charm of the site, and I think it would suck to lose it. That's why the decision of what ends up on the homepage will continue to be determined by me, Hemos, and the rest of the guys.

      http://slashdot.org/faq/suggestions.shtml#su600

      Have a nice day.

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  10. Yay, mostly by Thyamine · · Score: 1

    That's certainly a nice little news tidbit, but there's not much more to say. I'm an Apple fan, but really it would be more newsworthy if they announced no more phones and then something new was seen. I think everyone knows they are going to be coming out with a new one at regular intervals. If we had a section for 'News Headlines that are Their Own Articles' this would go there.

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  11. iBart? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

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  12. Speaking of cycles... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Apple's cycle is well known.
    But could this mean that it should be amended?

    For example, with a new, secondary, starting point such as: "An obscure software developer spots references to what could conceivably be a next version of Apple hardware in one of its logs".

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    1. Re:Speaking of cycles... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Apple's cycle is well known.

      Yeah, but the truly exciting part is when their cycle doesn't come...

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    2. Re:Speaking of cycles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like a certain other period, it only gets exciting when it skips.

    3. Re:Speaking of cycles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here I was thinking it got exciting BEFORE it skipped.

  13. Dear Editors: by StarKruzr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That should be a comma in ("iPhone %d,%d",majorversionnumber,minorversionnumber), not a period.

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    1. Re:Dear Editors: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /. misspelled news for nerds

    2. Re:Dear Editors: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is an iphone, that should be:

      [NSString stringWithFormat:@"iPhone %d,%d", majorversionnumber, minorversionnumber];

    3. Re:Dear Editors: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...The last time when iPhone 2.1 was spotted, it was followed by iPhone 3G."

      iPhone 3G is version "1,2"
      iPhone 3GS is version "2,1"

      Not that it should matter much for the article/issue. ;-)

    4. Re:Dear Editors: by teh+kurisu · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean /,

  14. tower by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soon I will be able to build a skyscraper with all of my iPhones.

  15. Slight Error in Summary, Version Number Mismatch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary says, "The last time when iPhone 2.1 was spotted, it was followed by iPhone 3G."

    But the version numbers actually are:
    iPhone: 1,1
    iPhone 3G: 1,2
    iPhone 3GS: 2,1

    The mistake in the summary isn't a big deal. But it does go into the big pile of little mistakes that we see all the time around here.

  16. Re:Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    I can't wait for Mac OS XI: This one goes to eleven!

    Ah, yes... the "Bubastis" release... Never go for the first released revision, though, it tends to have a way of falling apart on you. Wait for the dot-one version, "Nuku-Nuku". That one will be a lot more reliable.

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  17. Re:interesting by hexed_2050 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Multitasking for one. If you are in Skype and want to run another program, you can forget about it with the current iPhones.

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  18. 2,1 was 3GS not 3G by eegad · · Score: 3, Informative

    Former iPhones were labeled like this:

            * Original iPhone = 1,1
            * iPhone 3G = 1,2
            * iPhone 3GS = 2,1

  19. useragent? by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    So if i set my firefox useragent as iPhone/Tablet 5.0 and start visiting iPhone related sites a lot of noise will be generated?

    Announcing that they are looking specially to an info so easily modified is a good recipe for unfounded hype.

    1. Re:useragent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...I wish they'd keep that "free internet for anyone with 'iphone' in user-agent" at all starbucks locations.

    2. Re:useragent? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Informative

      This isn't a user agent string. This is a hardware model identifier. Apple hardware has an identifier in the ROM so that you can find out what hardware you're running on in software. Here are some examples of why you'd want to do that:

      MacPro 1,1: First generation Mac Pro (only has 16-lane PCI-e)
      MacBookPro 1,1: First generation MacBook Pro (Intel Core Duo, not Intel Core2 Duo with SSE4)
      MacPro 3,1: Third generation Mac Pro (32-lane PCI-e, quad core Nehalem Xeons)
      iPhone 2,1: Hardware compass, etc. etc.

      Get it?

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    3. Re:useragent? by kai_hiwatari · · Score: 1

      but you can't use iPhone apps using firefox :p

  20. Re:interesting by Fahrvergnuugen · · Score: 1

    It's a false limitation though. The software & hardware is completely capable, Apple just doesn't allow it for third party apps. (the first party apps like the Phone & iPod multitask just fine).

    I agree though, there are certain apps which definitely need to be allowed to run in the background like Skype and Pandora.

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  21. Re:Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Funny

    For XI, they are using dogs, not cats, as code names. Performance is better, but sleep support doesn't work as well...

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  22. Re:interesting by kimvette · · Score: 1

    what could they have possibly done to improve it? Raise the price? Cuz I bet you're still locked into their app store, their cell provider, and their everything else.

    They could back key features they pulled a bait and switch on (tethering) and not only that they could open it up a bit, since power users jailbreak them anyhow, and preventing hacking is nearly impossible. Someone somewhere will crack it when they have unfettered physical access. Somehow I don't think they're going to take the steps required to prevent hacking, i.e., require iPhone owners to use their phones under supervision at Apple stores and not let customers take them outside the store. ;)

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  23. Re:interesting by kimvette · · Score: 1

    install Backgrounder (You will have to jailbreak) - it's wonderful for fixing annoyances like incoming calls interrupting navigation.

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  24. Hmm... by aztektum · · Score: 2, Funny

    *double checks URL he typed in*

    Yeah it says http://slashdot.org/ ... thought maybe I'd typed macrumors

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    1. Re:Hmm... by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      It's on apple.slashdot.org.

      Change your prefs to remove any Apple stuff from the main page, if you're so incensed by it.

  25. thanks for telling me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that iBart is "spying" sorry "analytics" on its users by sending who-knows-what-else data
    to a third party

    if this behaviour was on Windows app it would be condemmed instantly
    and users would demand they stop it

    i wonder how many other of the iPhone apps spy on its "users"

    1. Re:thanks for telling me by x102output · · Score: 1

      yes, lots of apps spy on the users.

      Jailbreak and install "Firewall IP" .


      It's a complete graphical firewall package for the iPhone that asks you whenever an app makes a connection, and you can generate rulesets on-the-fly. Really handy.

  26. Re:Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And also, they have introduce a snob-meter, a first and long awaited feature.

  27. Re:interesting by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    A little more ram might be nice. I notice if I have push alerts enabled on certain apps, or any task basically sitting in the background (an alarm or something) the phone gets a little sluggish, and this is on the "fast" 3GS.

    I'd also like to see a higher-res OLED screen.

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  28. Analytics? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    It worries me a lot that random iPhone apps are allowed to phone home with this kind of data, especially after that story a while back where the user's phone number was being sent in order to spam call them.

    There seems to be a lot of protection for Apple (against jailbreaking or doing anything they or the carrier does not authorise) and pretty much none for the user.

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  29. Slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope they're not running the site on the iPhone itself :)

  30. Re:Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone by spartacus_prime · · Score: 1

    Couldn't they just make OSX longer?

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  31. Re:Another iPhone? Inconceivable! by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

    The 3GS had an oleophobic screen you didn't have to clean quite as often. I however seriously doubt they're going to finish development on, test, announce and ship a new iPhone before Christmas.

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  32. False user agent by ickleberry · · Score: 1, Redundant

    So what are the odds that this is a falsified user agent and that someone with a jailbroken iPhone is having a good laugh at this article?

  33. next version? by GreyFish · · Score: 4, Funny

    So when do we see an iPhone 3.11 for workgroups?

    1. Re:next version? by Stratoukos · · Score: 1

      More importantly, when do we see an iPhone 3.14?

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    2. Re:next version? by jameskojiro · · Score: 1

      The Apple Pi iPhone?

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    3. Re:next version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure the Apple Pi-Phone. Comes with vanilla accessory scoop.

  34. Re:interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... i.e., require iPhone owners to use their phones under supervision at Apple stores and not let customers take them outside the store. ;)

    The sad thing is they'd probable still sell. Albeit not as well.

  35. Free iBart publicity by michelcolman · · Score: 1

    What's more interesting, is that probably thousands of rumor site addicts are now checking out iBart (I know I just did). That's the real news in this story: a lot of iPhone programmers are now going to let their app phone home with as many details about the device as possible hoping to get a scoop out with their app's name!

  36. Save your money! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For iPhone 3.11 for Workgroups.

  37. Re:interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The tethering issue is not bait and switch, at least not from Apples end. Non at&t iPhones have tether. It's a Carrier Limitation, not a hardware limitation. Much like what VZW typically does to bluetooth file transfer OBEX's on many phones.

        at&t Mobility never indicated that it would ever allow teathering on the iPhone before or after release. The evade the topic simply by saying that it may at some point provide a teather plan such as they do on other devices, including giving a pricing structure to such a hypothetical plan.

        So, any bait and switch on at least this feature is based on the assumption that a feature would be enabled from the carrier.

        And no, I don't work for at&t and I have a mifi-2200 from VZW for my "teather" needs since it works well with my iPhone as a backup data connection (which I need regularly due to the crappy at&t coverage in my area).

  38. eleven? by jDeepbeep · · Score: 1

    Mac OS 0xb?

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  39. Re:interesting by Sojourn7 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've read the rumor mills. The one thing I'm not seeing there is the distinct possibility that 3,1 may not include a increase or change in functionallity. With at&t's exclusivity ending, 3,1 could simply be the major hardware rev to include CDMA in the product line?

  40. Got tired of waiting. by Darth_brooks · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I gave up on waiting for apple to get off the schnide and make the one change they desperatly need to make; ditch at&t. Got my droid a few weeks ago and couldn't be happier.

    Verizon seems to be the smartphone thunderdome, and i'd love to see apple come in and kick some windows mobile and blackberry ass, but they are apparently content to hang out in the at&t sandbox. I'd be posting this from an iphone instead of a droid if apple would commit to a decent network. Maybe in 2 years they'll have gotten the hint that exclusivity hurts in the long run.

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  41. Re:interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being the cynic I am, am wondering if the next gen iPhone will be designed with a TPM-like chip to protect against jailbreaking. Instead of spending money on that, I wish Apple would put their dough on other features that people would like. Imagine how useful the functionality of a Novatel Mifi would be in an iPhone. Just set a long WPA2 passphrase, plop phone on table (or some place where it isn't easily snatched up by a passerby), and fire up the laptop for a decent Internet connection. Even more exotic would be a baby RADIUS server for even more fine grained security.

  42. MOD PARENT UP - and Fix the summary by slagheap · · Score: 1

    nt

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    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP - and Fix the summary by No.+24601 · · Score: 1

      ditto

  43. Re:interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being the cynic I am, am wondering if the next gen iPhone will be designed with a TPM-like chip to protect against jailbreaking. Instead of spending money on that, I wish Apple would put their dough on other features that people would like. Imagine how useful the functionality of a Novatel Mifi would be in an iPhone. Just set a long WPA2 passphrase, plop phone on table (or some place where it isn't easily snatched up by a passerby), and fire up the laptop for a decent Internet connection. Even more exotic would be a baby RADIUS server for even more fine grained security.

    Wireless hotspot would be cool functionality, and should be theoretically doable on the platform if jailbroken anyway so adding it should be easy.

    However, being the cynic I am, at&t would strip that in a heart beat just as they did tether functionality.

  44. Slowest news day ever! by nevillethedevil · · Score: 1

    Really? This has got to be the dumbest, most pointless story (and I use the term lightly) I have ever read on here.

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    1. Re:Slowest news day ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you know that /. is an Apple fanboy (ahem) "news" site?

  45. Re:Newsflash: Apple developing another iPhone by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

    Couldn't they just make OSX longer?

    Once Apple gets to OS X v.10.9.9, they'll be going hexadecimal with the next version: OS X v.B.0.

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  46. All I see by No.+24601 · · Score: 1

    All I see here is a story about a foolish developer who decided it was smarter to let slip that they are mining their usage logs looking for "interesting" stuff like this, when they should probably keep their mouths shut if they plan on misusing people's (or, for that matter, a company's) personal data.

  47. Re:interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the upgrade from 2.5G to 3G apparently only justified the bump from 1,1 to 1,2, I'd guess that just the change of the radio to CDMA should not justify a bump from 2,1 to 3,1.

  48. More fanboi astroturfing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /. astorturfing for apple

  49. Re:interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Multitasking for one. If you are in Skype and want to run another program, you can forget about it with the current iPhones.

    *cough* Backgrounder in Cydia *cough*

  50. Daily Iphone Slashvertisement by mdwh2 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Indeed.

    When they finally release a product, then it may be worthy of a story. And I say may - note that most released phones never get any stories on Slashdot, even those from well known companies with far bigger market share (Nokia, Samsung, - well just about all of them, actually). Yet when it comes to Apple, with just a few per cent market share with their previous products, it's now news because some random guy saw something in his logs?

    The Daily Iphone Slashvertisement is getting boring.

  51. heh by GregNorc · · Score: 1

    You can create a custom browser user agent .