If VP8 is supposed to be free there can be no conflict surely. greedy mpegla owns odd coyrights on certain encoding rules not written code, right? So that a line of code ("Print 'hi!'") can be reused isn't really relevant is it?
"The device manufacturers must ensure a seamless user experience "
Its not a seamless user experience if they deny me access to apps or delete them without my permission (explicit permission - not some crap in a tos nobody reads)
If they don't change this behavior right now, as in remove this feature from android phones with the next update. And you are right, its a slippery slope - "we found some words in your email which you are going to regret tomorrow so we decided not to send it for you"
Because you are comparing things which are irrelevant, it doesn't matter what the programs did or what the cost was - they violated users trust by just deleting programs on their computers (because yes, that is what it is - a small computer running Android)
"Stop being disingenuous, they did it with prior notice, and with your permission."
No. You know, and they KNOW that nobody reads that. Its to avoid lawsuits, it is not something people read - people have an expectation, and they didn't expect that google would turn big bad amoral creep and screw them like this.
"Furthermore, having done it, they informed you."
Who cares, that's after the fact. They should NOT have the ability, the "agreement" should be changed right now, and the next version of Android should have this censor ability removed.
"They asked you in the Terms of Service you agreed to when you used the Android Market for the first time."
Don't be an idiot. They KNOW - and YOU KNOW - that nobody reads that. That's to keep their backs clear in the case of a legal battle - it does not absolve them of being amoral and on the way to evil.
"You do not have to get your apps through the Android Market. Anything you install outside of the Market is your responsibility."
Right until we find some other small print which allows them to control that as well.
They just showed that they can remotely censor your device - that is a definite NO NO - you keep your fucking hands of my device. Its bad enough you can only download apps from the web, don't they dare remove them as well.
"With lethal injection we have things like a condemned man being strapped to a gurney for hours as the personnel search for the correct vein,"
Got any proof for that? It sounds like utter rubbish, it takes a few seconds to find a vein (any will do) for a professional, and even an idiot should be able to find one in under a minute.
No they do not. Some, a few, the idiots who want revenge to that. But most intelligent people knows that its not a thing a society should do, sure you prevent that person from killing again, but you haven't done something about the problem for society, what causes these people to do so will continue, and in ever increasing numbers - as is evident by the failure to combat crime in the US. Harder and harder punishments do not work, you are only making the problem worse.
Yeah most of that is just rubbish. You have clearly never been put under by professionals (as in for operation), in a split second you are gone. And if they put too much in you don't come back.
It could be the future if the people involved where to accept more normal salaries instead of the sick greed of hollywood. That's not immediately forthcoming.
I suspect the reason they are doing this is that they can't really deliver the product they are selling, they have gotten by by hoping all their paying customers are not going to use bandwith - and now they fear they might.
Two things will happen:
Better providers will come along and provide unlimited roads for the information super highway OR mobile internet will die off. Internet didn't really take of until you had the all you can eat buffet - if its metered people are going to have the feeling "I gotta get of line its costing money!" and the mobile net will wither away.
Personally I think all of these providers are way too greedy - bandwith should be a lot cheaper than it is.
But then Google is working on giving the world free internet - so hang in there.
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Do it with a driving semi turning into a 50 meter tall robot - then we'll talk!
Insert where?
If VP8 is supposed to be free there can be no conflict surely. greedy mpegla owns odd coyrights on certain encoding rules not written code, right? So that a line of code ("Print 'hi!'") can be reused isn't really relevant is it?
Its good to see Slashdot still has the power to trash third party sites :)
"The device manufacturers must ensure a seamless user experience "
Its not a seamless user experience if they deny me access to apps or delete them without my permission (explicit permission - not some crap in a tos nobody reads)
The story is about google nuking things on peoples phones, not some crap about permissions.
If they don't change this behavior right now, as in remove this feature from android phones with the next update.
And you are right, its a slippery slope - "we found some words in your email which you are going to regret tomorrow so we decided not to send it for you"
Because you are comparing things which are irrelevant, it doesn't matter what the programs did or what the cost was - they violated users trust by just deleting programs on their computers (because yes, that is what it is - a small computer running Android)
"Stop being disingenuous, they did it with prior notice, and with your permission."
No. You know, and they KNOW that nobody reads that. Its to avoid lawsuits, it is not something people read - people have an expectation, and they didn't expect that google would turn big bad amoral creep and screw them like this.
"Furthermore, having done it, they informed you."
Who cares, that's after the fact. They should NOT have the ability, the "agreement" should be changed right now, and the next version of Android should have this censor ability removed.
This is a big break of trust.
"They asked you in the Terms of Service you agreed to when you used the Android Market for the first time."
Don't be an idiot. They KNOW - and YOU KNOW - that nobody reads that. That's to keep their backs clear in the case of a legal battle - it does not absolve them of being amoral and on the way to evil.
"You do not have to get your apps through the Android Market. Anything you install outside of the Market is your responsibility."
Right until we find some other small print which allows them to control that as well.
They just showed that they can remotely censor your device - that is a definite NO NO - you keep your fucking hands of my device.
Its bad enough you can only download apps from the web, don't they dare remove them as well.
Yeah, i know you have it in the body text - but don't lie to people in the subject - it doesn't open to ALL - it opens to americans. Humpf
"With lethal injection we have things like a condemned man being strapped to a gurney for hours as the personnel search for the correct vein,"
Got any proof for that? It sounds like utter rubbish, it takes a few seconds to find a vein (any will do) for a professional, and even an idiot should be able to find one in under a minute.
Sounds like sensational nonsense.
"They like the idea of killing the bad person ..."
No they do not. Some, a few, the idiots who want revenge to that. But most intelligent people knows that its not a thing a society should do, sure you prevent that person from killing again, but you haven't done something about the problem for society, what causes these people to do so will continue, and in ever increasing numbers - as is evident by the failure to combat crime in the US. Harder and harder punishments do not work, you are only making the problem worse.
Yeah most of that is just rubbish. You have clearly never been put under by professionals (as in for operation), in a split second you are gone. And if they put too much in you don't come back.
Ten to one, this is totally amateurish.
It could be the future if the people involved where to accept more normal salaries instead of the sick greed of hollywood. That's not immediately forthcoming.
I suspect the reason they are doing this is that they can't really deliver the product they are selling, they have gotten by by hoping all their paying customers are not going to use bandwith - and now they fear they might.
Two things will happen:
Better providers will come along and provide unlimited roads for the information super highway OR mobile internet will die off.
Internet didn't really take of until you had the all you can eat buffet - if its metered people are going to have the feeling "I gotta get of line its costing money!" and the mobile net will wither away.
Personally I think all of these providers are way too greedy - bandwith should be a lot cheaper than it is.
But then Google is working on giving the world free internet - so hang in there.
They can ask google to remove the pictures. That's more than you can ask the government when its cameras pick up you.
Firefox is slow enough as it is.
A 14 year old with a paper round probably makes more money than Uwe Bolls movies. He'll want some of that action! *g*
Jobs will write a letter warning about the dangers of Flash.
Just because you haven't learned to be humble doesn't mean you are right.
"Too bad I'm not trolling, like you. :("
Too bad you don't have a sense of humor you Self-righteous jerk.
No? Ah, now i get it - you pay twice the price for less flash, eh?