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Porn Industry Ready To Drop Flash
An anonymous reader writes "Here's an interesting new angle to the ongoing Flash-HTML5 debate. Digital Playground, one of the major adult film studios, said it would drop Flash today if all browsers were HTML5-ready (*cough*, IE8, *cough*). The company's founder said, 'Flash brings everything to a crawl and has an impact on battery life. With HTML5, there is no reason to show our content in Flash.' Digital Playground also indicated that it does not expect 3-D to gain mass acceptance any time soon."
[insert stupid flash pun]
untill you can get all workplaces to upgrade their browsers, the porn industry is never gonna drop flash
READ: "We realise the iPhone market is massive and we want iPr0n portable"
So Flash really is almost dead and 3D really is a just gimmick. Now this doesn't seem like such a shitty Monday.
Are they dropping their pants, or flashing their boobies?
Or both?
*grin*
Why would 3D gain faster acceptance? Who wouldn't want tits to basically jump out of your screen and nearly hit you in the face?
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
Finally I can watch some good porn on my iPhone.
Among other things, they are worried about the impact Flash has on battery life? If your worried about battery life while watching pron, your either in a car, on the couch, or sitting on the pot.
I am not sure if I should find any of that that odd or normal.
Yeah, everyone seems to be ready to drop flash for video playback, but what codec will their videos be encoded with?
As it stands today:
- Use h264 and all firefox users will be left off
- use theora and almost everyone will be left off
- use VP8 and most browsers won't support it
- use X and Y browser will not support it.
use flash and... 99% browsers will support it. Having said that, I hate flash, but I guess the world is not ready for HTML5 just yet, mainly because of the codecs issue.
Lets hope VP8 is a success! :-)
What the batteries are for...?
The whole porn thing is so incredibly boring, and casts a pall over technology. No, Blu-ray didn't win because of porn. Nor did VHS win because of porn. No is Flash going to die because of porn.
But really the cutest is when someone desperate for attention, hoping onto the dogpile, becomes an industry. Especially when it's encrusted with caveats ("if HTML5 was supported by all browsers, they all supported the same codecs, they all..."). Boring.
How soon can I claim that flash has gone the way of Betamax and HDDVD(A)?
There you go. Satisfied?
Obligatory link about 3D about to take off very rapidly:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/06/23/the-erotic-possibilities-of-the-3ds/
That the iPad would revolutionize online porn as we know it.
Also, it wipes clean with a damp cloth.
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Wikipedia says this company is pretty influential in the porn industry, though not the only player. I suppose it's sort-of interesting to hear what he thinks. Though there's no real meat to the article, it's almost like an anti-Flash astro-turf.
I think all content producers are generally looking forward to moving to HTML5 video. That doesn't mean that Flash is dead. It could potentially mean that in 3-5 years Flash will not be used for video. Right now, Flash is pretty much the only option. In a year or two, HTML5 video will be a reasonable competitor. After that, well I guess it's up to Adobe to figure out ways of making their product more appealing than the baseline (which is HTML5). But they have a dominant position now, support of major players, and seem committed to improving their product. It's hard to discount them on the word of one porn producer.
It breaks my pluginses, my precious!
This is already happening - youporn already works on the ipad, with no flash.
Adobe has had the final clue bat applied and truly fix their garbage. When the porn world speaks, others follow.
My karma is not a Chameleon.
the two minutes of battery life that my N900 can run flash for have so far proven sufficient.
Seriously, this is just nonsese.
1. Digital Playground are nobodies in the online porn market. Yes, they produce a lot of content, but it's all for the DVD market.
2. One studio saying something isn't representative of an entire industry. It's actually called a 'Press Release'
3. The vast majority of adult sites allow you to pick your poison in terms of video. Streaming is normally done via flash [.x/h264 mp4 being the norm], and allowing downloads in AVI/DivX/WMV/MPEG formats.
4. What porn does provide is a solid statistics cross-section of internet users - and from the figures I see, flash usage is 96% or higher. The vast majority of purchasing users aren't high tech, they don't use noscript, they don't think flash is evil.
5. Porn (and any commercial) sites aim to make their sites as available to as many people as possible. Forcing users to upgrade browsers, attempting to change browsing habits, etc, is only going to lower the bottom line.
Its called a hooker.
Who says HTML5 video is any easier on batteries than Flash? If anybody has done a study on that, I haven't seen it.
"Porn" and "standards". There's two words you'd never think of seeing together.
Take Nobody's Word For It.
I work in the Adult Industry on a Content Management System for paysites. We just demonstrated support for the iPad at the recent Xbiz show using H.264.
It's fine and dandy that one company has proclaimed that they'd get rid of Flash given the chance. That doesn't say much for the rest of the industry, now, does it?
I know there are a lot of Open Source Advocates on Slashdot, but let's face it: Paysite operators are in the game to maximize their profits. This is done by:
a) Reaching as many people and devices as possible.
b) Decreasing bandwidth
c) Minimizing disk space and hardware.
They don't care about the war between WebM and H.264. They only care about having their sites work with as many people as possible. In this case, HTML5 brings iPad support to their sites.
The problem here ultimately is that the codec war with HTML5 is still undecided. If you're going to use HTML5's video element exclusively, you're going to end up being FORCED to use two formats of video for all the browsers - one for WebM and one for H.264.
That's all well and good, but multiple formats takes up space. Granted a lot of pay sites offer multiple download options like WMV, DivX and Quicktime, but when it comes to watching a full movie in a browser, only one format is needed here - H.264. Let the browsers that support H.264 use the video tag. Let browsers that don't use a Flash player backup.
This still won't change after WebM has support within Flash because of the iPhone and iPad. As the mobile arena heats up, WebM will start to appear lacking without Apple support. Even though the iPhone is a small percentage of the total phone market, it says a lot when the CEO has one and wants his websites to work on it.
So in sum - flash isn't going anywhere. It will remain as a backup player for 5 years mininum.
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Who cares about battery life? Porn is only watched in increments of 5-10 minutes anyway.
Remember the porn industry backed HD-DVD, too.
People still pay for porn on the Internet? There's basically an unlimited quantity available for free. You can spend 15 minutes on a free porn site with downthemall and collect more porn than my buddies and I had combined when we were teenagers 20 years ago. And it will be waaaaaaaaaaaaay dirtier.
Spot on. Start-ups are already advertising for girls for iPhone 4 FaceTime video sex chat services. From a Craigslist ad:
Flash is hawking an advantage in DRM etc, whereas HTML5 might allow greater ripping of content.
Unfortunately, this argument is falling away for Adobe as it can be noted porn sites push downloadable and unrestricted content as it turns out consumers want that.
The one area where streaming is an advantage is for those that wish to skip to certain points in the film and are not interested in the rest of the film.Flash and HTML5 allows easy seeking obviously.
In post Patriot Act America, the library books scan you.
If that wasn't a death kiss, nothing is. As i predicted, in 2 years flash will be a distant ( bad ) memory. And its Adobe's own damned fault really, they had the market, but threw it away by being pig headed.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Wow, I first read "Porn Industry Ready to Drop Flesh" as if dropping clothes off is not enough!
I guess I'm just dense. But I still don't understand the big deal about HTML5 and how it makes Flash go away. Yes, I hate Flash, but HTML 5 doesn't magically play video all by itself. You still have to have some sort of player/codec installed on your computer. Everyone doesn't have h264, theora or whatever. Almost everyone has Flash. I fail to understand how HTML 5 changes this.
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Many porn sites are already iPad ready. I've heard (cough cough) that the experience is much better.
http://youporn.com/
http://pornhub.com/
http://extremetube.com/
A big part of this is how cheap and easy it is to do HTML5+H.264 video. The video editing tools all have H.264 encoders, including batch encoding at least in Final Cut, and a standalone encoder is $29. Of course any HTML coder can learn the video tag. Flash is unreasonably complicated by comparison and also $599 a seat.
is for suckas! Go on lemmings and ride right off that cliff. Follow the sounds of morons.
"The laws of science be a harsh mistress." --Bender
FTA: "Flash brings everything to a crawl and has an impact on battery life"
I've heard similar sentiments in other quasi-news tech articles, but haven't all actual test done so far found that HTML5 is about the same as flash on battery life and cpu usage? where does the idea that it will be better in these areas than flash come from? I think HTML5 has merit as a standard, but whats with the marketing spin?
-Lod
Adaptive bitrate streaming?
Sparse Caching in CDNs?
Standardization of Codecs - knowing that the browser that's play the video will have the codec you need?
Being able to fast-forward (think: Moneyshot) without downloading the whole video first?
HTML5 is a very weak video solution.
hey i'm a flash designer/developer and if html5 was truly supported as a standard across all browsers then i would drop flash too! the fact is that it isn't and probably won't either in terms of video codecs and CSS so i'll be sticking with flash and probably so will lots of companies until standards actually become standards rather than each browsers take on a standard.
Flash isn't slower than HTML5. For video, using the same codecs, they use about the same amount of CPU. For just about everything else, including vector and bitmap graphic animations, Flash is faster and uses less CPU to achieve the same performance. People have been taking it on faith that HTML5 is faster, but the moment you actually start looking for performance comparisons, you learn the reverse is true.
The author just wanted to be able to use those three words in a posting to see if he could get a rise out of someone.
There you go. Now that porn has declared flash inadequate it is time for a Flash death watch. I am serious.
Why do I care about extending battery life. I only need to have the porn sites going to 2, 3 minutes tops.
This epidemic is just terrible.
I find it interesting how the porn industry is constantly pushing the limits of technology to the point where they are the only true innovators in film and photography any more.
What's up with that?
For a balanced view http://business.avn.com/articles/Joone-Points-to-HTML-5-as-Future-of-Web-Content-Delivery-401434.html from the people charged with professionally covering these things. No surprise sensationalism would find its way to /.
This just in! Playing video on battery powered devices drains the battery faster! Unless you use HTML5! It breaks the laws of physics and actually charges your battery!
I'm done with flash. I can't lose my social life.