"And what's this "installer" program to download the browser for you, why not just give us a download link to the browser itself? Furthermore, the browser will also *update* anytime it feels like it. Afaik there's no way to deactivate this *feature*."
Indeed. Every time i post this i get modded troll.
But even worse and annoying, if you start the install (right after you have downloaded it) and click cancel it STILL installs the update service on the machine!
"But why would you use such an outdated and non-free codec in the first place, "
Because it is supported in hardware everywhere, there is tons of (user friendly) software for it and there is a great browser plugin in in for it.
"There are x264, XviD, Theora as video encoders, Matroska and Ogg as containers,"
XVid is basically the same as Divx so that is fine, but the rest are weird non standard junk not supported in very much. That's something you reencode to avi as fast as possible if you can't get it in avi to start with.
"And nowadays eveybody who watches downloaded films has those on his disk anyway"
I doubt that, they avoid them to begin with. But presumably those who use hardware wouldn't go near it.
Seems to me these guys are like the people they get on X-Factor or s got talent - and they claim they are world masters, but when they get up there they are terrible.
I haven't much fancied buying some other player, like blue ray so far, I see that i might not have missed much.
These commercial games are odd indeed. I wonder what Google would bet on *g*
I'm afraid i don't know the laser difference, but are you saying those DVD2 disks would also work in an old player or would you still need to get a new one?
(You'd almost think George Bush moderates this place these days! What is it with people and their disgust of different opinions - stop abusing your moderation powers you damn nazis!)
"and put the tabs above the address bar (not below), "
Why the hell that? It's a totally stupid idea - i some times have 30 or more tabs opened, the tab bar grows downward, if there was supposed to be an address bar below that it would be moving all over the screen as i open and close tabs - unless of course they have just a single tab line where people have to scroll left and right, which is user hostile in the extreme.
They are just forcing some different idea on people for the sake of being different (much like Microsoft), its like that damn GMail where they refuse to give us folders - the Firefox people got it right in Firefox3 where they added tags to bookmarks, but still allow you to use folders for them - both are needed because its two different kind of conceptional data manipulation metaphors.
Google you might have been a friend once, but the day you made it impossible to get in contact with humans at your site about any of your offers is the day you crossed over.
"This is Piratebay, we're not in at the moment but at the tone you can leave your threats of lawsuits. Beware; everything you say is going to be seeded."
"I imagine the first question on everyone's mind will be, "Why do we need a new web browser?" "
My first question is: Why do they prevent us from downloading the browser, but instead force another program on us - the google updater, which installs a service on your machine (even if you click cancel)
No, its dated 2012 - but I thought they were ahead of the curve.
"You know, the one that said thanks to modern standards we can make complex applications in the browser now"
Wrong. And outdated model forcing people to keep upgrading their computers and therefore cutting down on potential customers. Besides, for those who charge they can keep charging in this model.
"Google have tried this once before, with iGoogle"
Yeah, like i want to be logged into a search engine, being constantly reminded that it stores all information about me - funny those google twits can't understand that is wrong behavior.
Configure the start page well that would be nice if it didn't story a history, as it is - hell no.
Actually the problem comes back to the web designers, didn't they get the memo? They are not supposed to offload processor task to ME - calculate your crap on your server. Dumb terminals and all that you know.
Well I am bothered by it, this is a typical example of tech heads who shouldn't be allowed near the design "it really is a property of the current page" ! screw that - I open many many tabs, and take up row and row downwards, do i want an address bar jumping up and down the screen as i open and close tabs? Hell no - and NO i don't want just one thin line of tabs scrolling left and right. Oh well, they wont kill Firefox in the near future.
"and put the tabs above the address bar (not below), "
Why the hell that? It's a totally stupid idea - i some times have 30 or more tabs opened, the tab bar grows downward, if there was supposed to be an address bar below that it would be moving all over the screen as i open and close tabs - unless of course they have just a single tab line where people have to scroll left and right, which is user hostile in the extreme.
They are just forcing some different idea on people for the sake of being different (much like Microsoft), its like that damn GMail where they refuse to give us folders - the Firefox people got it right in Firefox3 where they added tags to bookmarks, but still allow you to use folders for them - both are needed because its two different kind of conceptional data manipulation metaphors.
Google you might have been a friend once, but the day you made it impossible to get in contact with humans at your site about any of your offers is the day you crossed over.
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"And what's this "installer" program to download the browser for you, why not just give us a download link to the browser itself? Furthermore, the browser will also *update* anytime it feels like it. Afaik there's no way to deactivate this *feature*."
Indeed. Every time i post this i get modded troll.
But even worse and annoying, if you start the install (right after you have downloaded it) and click cancel it STILL installs the update service on the machine!
And a redesign of google groups!
"But why would you use such an outdated and non-free codec in the first place, "
Because it is supported in hardware everywhere, there is tons of (user friendly) software for it and there is a great browser plugin in in for it.
"There are x264, XviD, Theora as video encoders,
Matroska and Ogg as containers,"
XVid is basically the same as Divx so that is fine, but the rest are weird non standard junk not supported in very much. That's something you reencode to avi as fast as possible if you can't get it in avi to start with.
"And nowadays eveybody who watches downloaded films has those on his disk anyway"
I doubt that, they avoid them to begin with. But presumably those who use hardware wouldn't go near it.
Seems to me these guys are like the people they get on X-Factor or s got talent - and they claim they are world masters, but when they get up there they are terrible.
Wow, thanks for typing that.
I haven't much fancied buying some other player, like blue ray so far, I see that i might not have missed much.
These commercial games are odd indeed. I wonder what Google would bet on *g*
I'm afraid i don't know the laser difference, but are you saying those DVD2 disks would also work in an old player or would you still need to get a new one?
My brain works.
Then it'll only be USB sticks!
And that one should be voted funny ;)
Blizzard just won in court, so not likely.
Of course the US may get Bush 2.0 & Cheney 2.0 in a couple of months, so perhaps the world is a less happy place.
"That doesn't mean it applies to the browser, it may simply apply to Google services connected with use of the browser"
In court what would hold up is what you "agreed" to when you downloaded it.
(You'd almost think George Bush moderates this place these days! What is it with people and their disgust of different opinions - stop abusing your moderation powers you damn nazis!)
"and put the tabs above the address bar (not below), "
Why the hell that? It's a totally stupid idea - i some times have 30 or more tabs opened, the tab bar grows downward, if there was supposed to be an address bar below that it would be moving all over the screen as i open and close tabs - unless of course they have just a single tab line where people have to scroll left and right, which is user hostile in the extreme.
They are just forcing some different idea on people for the sake of being different (much like Microsoft), its like that damn GMail where they refuse to give us folders - the Firefox people got it right in Firefox3 where they added tags to bookmarks, but still allow you to use folders for them - both are needed because its two different kind of conceptional data manipulation metaphors.
Google you might have been a friend once, but the day you made it impossible to get in contact with humans at your site about any of your offers is the day you crossed over.
"lashdotters should be of a level of intelligence that they can understand this stuff."
Since when?
"This is Piratebay, we're not in at the moment but at the tone you can leave your threats of lawsuits. Beware; everything you say is going to be seeded."
"which looks set to be a part of the next revision of the DVD standard. "
Are you saying DVD isn't on the way out?
Oh wait, wrong browser - sorry.
And tell us here how it works! ;)
"I think you're jumping to conclusions; that is Google's usual "content license", and something they need in order to offer services to you."
Why do they NEED it?
"I don't know how you think it applies to the browser. "
Because you fucking have to agree to it before you can download the browser!
"I imagine the first question on everyone's mind will be, "Why do we need a new web browser?" "
My first question is: Why do they prevent us from downloading the browser, but instead force another program on us - the google updater, which installs a service on your machine (even if you click cancel)
"They did get the memo. It was dated 1997"
No, its dated 2012 - but I thought they were ahead of the curve.
"You know, the one that said thanks to modern standards we can make complex applications in the browser now"
Wrong. And outdated model forcing people to keep upgrading their computers and therefore cutting down on potential customers. Besides, for those who charge they can keep charging in this model.
"http://www.whatwg.org/"
Link isn't working - perhaps it did in 1997
Flash was always the weakest link because it makes pages unreadable to some people (and impossible to read out by text to voice readers)
Will it make stuff run slower? Then i'm against it.
"Google have tried this once before, with iGoogle"
Yeah, like i want to be logged into a search engine, being constantly reminded that it stores all information about me - funny those google twits can't understand that is wrong behavior.
Configure the start page well that would be nice if it didn't story a history, as it is - hell no.
Actually the problem comes back to the web designers, didn't they get the memo? They are not supposed to offload processor task to ME - calculate your crap on your server. Dumb terminals and all that you know.
Well I am bothered by it, this is a typical example of tech heads who shouldn't be allowed near the design "it really is a property of the current page" ! screw that - I open many many tabs, and take up row and row downwards, do i want an address bar jumping up and down the screen as i open and close tabs? Hell no - and NO i don't want just one thin line of tabs scrolling left and right.
Oh well, they wont kill Firefox in the near future.
"and put the tabs above the address bar (not below), "
Why the hell that? It's a totally stupid idea - i some times have 30 or more tabs opened, the tab bar grows downward, if there was supposed to be an address bar below that it would be moving all over the screen as i open and close tabs - unless of course they have just a single tab line where people have to scroll left and right, which is user hostile in the extreme.
They are just forcing some different idea on people for the sake of being different (much like Microsoft), its like that damn GMail where they refuse to give us folders - the Firefox people got it right in Firefox3 where they added tags to bookmarks, but still allow you to use folders for them - both are needed because its two different kind of conceptional data manipulation metaphors.
Google you might have been a friend once, but the day you made it impossible to get in contact with humans at your site about any of your offers is the day you crossed over.