There's already a huge contender on the horizon. Python. This thing could revolutionize computing as we know it. It gives almost platform independence on several levels. It's easy enough for the man in the street to use. Could take over the market.
Cisco is overpriced, hyped hardware. It's not bad, does its job, but could easily be replaced by a better or cheaper solution. Cyclades solutions would give you a lot better performance. Xyplex solutions are arguably more robust and expansible. A Linux box with 2 NICs and an X.21 card could replace a Cisco router for about a fourteenth of the cost. Even my female collie knows this, and she suggested it to me just the other day when I was talking to her about the new Cache engines that we were deploying at work. I noted that SQUID could do what the cache engines from Cisco were doing (which, btw, go for around $50,000 or something ridiculous), for around a ten times less the price. She agreed and added that you could also run a Linux box as a router with the aforementioned hardware (NICs, X.21 card, etc) and the right daemons. And yet Cisco are one of the top-selling solutions around, gotter ask yourself WHY.
It would be great if some fairy invented a hydrogen engine for laptops...something that ran on water, and gave off water vapour as its only by-product...using the hydrogen molecules to generate electricity.
If you want to check out a real sci fi book, that's actually researched well, written brilliantly, etc, check out Peter James' HOST . There's real UNIX technology in there. And cool sci fi too, but not totally unbelievable, like aliens and startroopers and spaceships and rubbish. The man writes brilliantly, most of his stuff is good, but HOST takes the cake.
Listen, mate. When Opera can do ColdFusion pages, you can start tuning that it's better than NS/Mozilla. The fact is, though, that under Opera, ColdFusion pages return blank screens. I test it under BeOS a while back. First I tried NetPositive, the default BeOS browser. That returned an Application Error when I attempted to access the ColdFusion pages. Opera gave me a login screen, but every screen after that was returned as blank. Mozilla M14 handles these pages perfectly (well, ok, they look terrible, but at least they work 100% as far as functionality goes). I'm not a microserf, so I won't use IE on a regular basis (even though it does draw the ColdFusion pages better than NS). Don't Opera this and Opera that. It's BS. As it stands, if M14 was compiled for BeOS, it would be the #1 browser in BeOS. Neither Opera or Net+ can currently claim prime-time readiness.
When will they release BeOS binaries? From what I've seen, BeOS has no decent browser. Even M14 would look brilliant compared to Opera 3.6 Beta. And NetPositive?? Gimme a break! NetPositive can't seem to even handle ColdFusion pages. Opera gets to them, but returns a blank screen. I have run ColdFusion pages under Mozilla though, under Linux and Windows. So therefore, Mozilla is actually a better browser than NetPositive and Opera. Sorry. I know that sounds harsh. But it's true. It's an absolutely essential part of a Web Browser in this era. And Mozilla can do it. Oh yes, it can. That's brilliant. NetPositive on the other hand...I mean...what's WRONG with these people ?? And Opera - it got the "Best alternative Browser" award on ZD a while back...but WHY? M14 was about 14 times better than Opera 3.6 Beta. IMO. Netscape hasn't even ported to BeOS. So basically, at the moment, you have 2 choices: NetPositive, which can handle about 20% of the sites online, and about 10% correctly, and Opera, which can handle about 60%, and 50% correctly, and all slowly. Sorry if this sounds like a rave, but it is the truth - a web browser is a key utility, lack of a decent one could bring BeOS to its knees.
Ummm, nope. Klaus actually passed the driving test:) Now, my female collie is a pretty smart dog, but if collies could take driving tests, I don't think she'd have as much chance as a male collie:)
could have been squirreled away? How do you know something isn't ? seen the source, have you? examined it thoroughly , have you? If so, why not contribute to a project like WINE or something:) ?
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Nuff said. This link doesn't work! it's a dead, dead link. Deader than dead. Now look, I want to believe this. But the more I look at it, the more it looks like a hoax. I tried to download this thing twice at work, and got 2 11mb files that were "full files" and told me to redownload. Now, I can't connect to anything at all, from home, on my 128K ISDN. I'm starting to think there is no file, and Be have just have various minions posting about how great it is and how they downloaded it in 20 minutes blah blah blah for publicity. Or something. So that the people who couldn't download it (everyone in reality) want to try it so badly that they buy it. Now, I know that I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist, but this seems a bit odd, even for me.
Yeh, I tried a site in Sweden that apparently had it. I downloaded the alledged file, but the setup tuned me that the file was incomplete - and that I should re-download it. I re-got it with wget...same thing....I smell a scam!
Cept for the fact that you can actually download various Linux distributions. Seems that the folks at Be haven't figured out the art of organisation. Some folks would say that makes them a disorganized company. Err - I dunno really. We'll have to see if they ever actually do release their OS. WHEN, I meant WHEN:)
Joe Soap doesn't want to have to fdisk his HDD or use a risky application like FIPs to get enough space to install the prorgam. Think about it: You're Joe Soap. You're running Windows 98. Now, you've heard about this Beos thing. But your HDD, say a 6gb for argument's sake, is full of Windows 98. What would be easier for Joe Soap? And note, I'm not saying easy as in idiot-proof etc, I'm talking about time. Despite what many of the people on this forum undoubtedly think about the average user, the average user isn't always clueless. In fact, the man on the street has probably, at some point, installed and run Linux. A few of the people on the street, myself included, have even tried FreeBSD and OpenBSD on their Intel boxen. But the man on the street is busy. He wants to try this thing, but he doesn't want to repartition his drive. Of course, in this respect I'm lucky. I have a few boxen always lying around that I can use for experimentation. What I figure I'll do if they ever do release this thing, is download the ISO, make a CD, and boot it on an empty box (ie, has a disk(s) with no defined partitions). And I'll take a look at it. Seriously. Because I believe in assessing all options. I won't just say: "Oh, French. Bleh." Or..."Oh. Microsoft. Bleh." Or..."Oh...BSD...Bleh." The point is, if you had a 6gb HDD with 3gb free, but all on one big partition, what would you do? backup everything, repartition, and reinstall Windows, Linux, etc, or install the darn thing using this method they've got of encapsulating a filesystem within a file? Exactly! Thanks:)
My grandmother owns a Credit Union with approximately $500 million turnover. Trust me, security over the internet is not an issue, since the actual transactions are not connected to the outside. This keyboard issue is a bit worrying, though....not for online saftey reasons but internal mess-ups because of it. You'd not think it, but for a 70-yr old lady, she's up to date with the latest technology. Even the new section that's being planned, the Online section of the credit union, she is taking charge of and driving the project. She's reading and studying, getting up to date with the latest cryptography and networking...she isn't a techno expert, but what she does have is the management capability and the ability to collect the right people, work them hard and force them to work together. When the Credit Union first opened, it only had 2 major clients, one of which was the holding company of the Credit Union itself (the corporation took 50%, my grandmother took 50%). Now, only 6 years later, it's a major Credit Union pulling $500 million turnover.
Imagine the implications of this in, say....a Credit Union....such keyboards should be illegalized in places like Credit Unions, government, military, businesses, etc.
I don't even know why I'm replying to this ridiculous post. If that's the case, then I guess that:
VMS == UNIX. (Take the V back, take the M forward, gives you UN, take the top part of the S and turn it around, to for an I, take the rest of the S and put it on its side, forming an X). That's it, VMS == UNIX.
The guy who lead the NT project, I believe, was the same guy who desgined VMS, Dave Cutler. But I've yet to be presented with any literature which indicates that NT resembles VMS. If you have any concrete evidence of this, please use it to back up this statement. Anyway, I don't think you realize how good VMS actually is. It's been stated by many people that VMS is actually mroe stable than most Unixen. Of course, even my female collie could tell you that most people who claim their preferred platform is stable are simply showing favouritisim to their preferred platform. Nothing more, nothing less. At the corporation I work for we run several platforms. NT is one of them. I set up an NT/Apache server on it in June 1999. Admittedly the load wasn't great, it's internal and only serving ~30 people. It didn't crash until earlier this month. And that was mainly due to the fact that I installed the ACT server on it. The MMX200/64MB RAM apparently can't handle 20 requests to an ACT database. But even my female collie realizes the point here.
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Ummm....that is why Windows 95 sucks? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Windows 95 fan, but it seems to me that your URL is at fault. Not the operating system. I don't doubt your displeasure with Microsoft and your refusal to accept their operating systems, but there is a better way to demonstrate their flaws than this, surely? A misconfigured website can't be the way. Even my female collie would realize this. So....what's the actual....*point* of this URL? Is there a point? What is the point!. I've been thinking about it for quite a while and I don't think that even my female collie would try and figure out the purpoise of such a URL. Please, do enlighten me. I do apologize profusely if I've offended you, but I am somewhat puzzled. I'm sure that I typed in the URL correctly. It sent me around some Cybercities/ku/ site and then ended up with this error message:
404 File Not Found.
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I'm still waiting to see the problem with Windows 95....I ah, ah....heh heh. What's it again? Sorry - heh. Not very much point to that, I'm afraid. I like Anti-Gates sites as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous. It doesn't work. Check the link! Contact your administrator! anything!
It's been ten minutes since I started writing this post. I've just tried the link again. I wanted to ensure it wasn't a fault on my part, or that the site had some temporary problem. The same thing happens. Same thing. Missing File. I'll contact the administrator of Cybercities and complain about it personally.
Even my female collie could write a better system than SCO UNIX. But the fact is, the 45-yr old managers out there are usually quite reserved and usually have heard of SCO, while also having heard about Linux and FreeBSD, they'd rather go with an established product like SCO, even if it doesn't make technical sense.
Give me a break. Even my female collie could write a better Operating System than Windows 2000. The people in my department wanted to evaluate it last year. Beta 3. Well, I had a spare machine lying on my desk. I'd just used it to test the then-current FreeBSD 3.2. Anyway, I deleted FreeBSD and began the Windows install. No prob. I wasn't too sure about the concept of Forests, trees, and Active Directories, but I was amazed that I couldn't add it as a BDC to the current network. In other words, they're trying to make you switch over all of your servers to Windows 2000. Now, I'm not sure about anyone else, but that sounds a bit of a slap in the face for the consumers, to me. Like: "Thanks for using NT 4. Now upgrade everything, and we mean everything, to Windows 2000 - asshole!". Oh, sorry. You can use Professional for Desktops in any event:) I didn't like that much either, though. I could get Dungeon Keeper 2 running under it. Switched back to Windows 98. What's worse, I had to do a low-level format of the drive to get the darn partitions that 2000 made off. All in all, I'm certain that my female collie wouldn't use Windows 2000, and she'd probably be able to write a better system.
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There's already a huge contender on the horizon. Python. This thing could revolutionize computing as we know it. It gives almost platform independence on several levels. It's easy enough for the man in the street to use. Could take over the market.
It would be pretty cool if there was a readily available distrib that fitted onto a 1.44" stiffy. And that you could extend easily.
Cisco is overpriced, hyped hardware. It's not bad, does its job, but could easily be replaced by a better or cheaper solution. Cyclades solutions would give you a lot better performance. Xyplex solutions are arguably more robust and expansible. A Linux box with 2 NICs and an X.21 card could replace a Cisco router for about a fourteenth of the cost. Even my female collie knows this, and she suggested it to me just the other day when I was talking to her about the new Cache engines that we were deploying at work. I noted that SQUID could do what the cache engines from Cisco were doing (which, btw, go for around $50,000 or something ridiculous), for around a ten times less the price. She agreed and added that you could also run a Linux box as a router with the aforementioned hardware (NICs, X.21 card, etc) and the right daemons. And yet Cisco are one of the top-selling solutions around, gotter ask yourself WHY.
Not if he was a Doctor of Technology.
They might, unfortunately, have to restrict the exports of all books from now on :)
It would be great if some fairy invented a hydrogen engine for laptops...something that ran on water, and gave off water vapour as its only by-product...using the hydrogen molecules to generate electricity.
-Mark Villopillil.
If you want to check out a real sci fi book, that's actually researched well, written brilliantly, etc, check out Peter James' HOST . There's real UNIX technology in there. And cool sci fi too, but not totally unbelievable, like aliens and startroopers and spaceships and rubbish. The man writes brilliantly, most of his stuff is good, but HOST takes the cake.
Francis Fortcoppler's First Wave ruled over all series mentioned here so far.
There was another good one, Nowhere Man, but I can't remember who wrote/directed that one.
Hi there.
Listen, mate. When Opera can do ColdFusion pages, you can start tuning that it's better than NS/Mozilla. The fact is, though, that under Opera, ColdFusion pages return blank screens. I test it under BeOS a while back. First I tried NetPositive, the default BeOS browser. That returned an Application Error when I attempted to access the ColdFusion pages. Opera gave me a login screen, but every screen after that was returned as blank. Mozilla M14 handles these pages perfectly (well, ok, they look terrible, but at least they work 100% as far as functionality goes). I'm not a microserf, so I won't use IE on a regular basis (even though it does draw the ColdFusion pages better than NS). Don't Opera this and Opera that. It's BS. As it stands, if M14 was compiled for BeOS, it would be the #1 browser in BeOS. Neither Opera or Net+ can currently claim prime-time readiness.
Mark Villopillil
When will they release BeOS binaries? From what I've seen, BeOS has no decent browser. Even M14 would look brilliant compared to Opera 3.6 Beta. And NetPositive?? Gimme a break! NetPositive can't seem to even handle ColdFusion pages. Opera gets to them, but returns a blank screen. I have run ColdFusion pages under Mozilla though, under Linux and Windows. So therefore, Mozilla is actually a better browser than NetPositive and Opera. Sorry. I know that sounds harsh. But it's true. It's an absolutely essential part of a Web Browser in this era. And Mozilla can do it. Oh yes, it can. That's brilliant. NetPositive on the other hand...I mean...what's WRONG with these people ?? And Opera - it got the "Best alternative Browser" award on ZD a while back...but WHY? M14 was about 14 times better than Opera 3.6 Beta. IMO. Netscape hasn't even ported to BeOS. So basically, at the moment, you have 2 choices: NetPositive, which can handle about 20% of the sites online, and about 10% correctly, and Opera, which can handle about 60%, and 50% correctly, and all slowly. Sorry if this sounds like a rave, but it is the truth - a web browser is a key utility, lack of a decent one could bring BeOS to its knees.
Ummm, nope. Klaus actually passed the driving test :) Now, my female collie is a pretty smart dog, but if collies could take driving tests, I don't think she'd have as much chance as a male collie :)
could have been squirreled away? How do you know something isn't ? seen the source, have you? examined it thoroughly , have you? If so, why not contribute to a project like WINE or something :) ?
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Nuff said. This link doesn't work! it's a dead, dead link. Deader than dead. Now look, I want to believe this. But the more I look at it, the more it looks like a hoax. I tried to download this thing twice at work, and got 2 11mb files that were "full files" and told me to redownload. Now, I can't connect to anything at all, from home, on my 128K ISDN. I'm starting to think there is no file, and Be have just have various minions posting about how great it is and how they downloaded it in 20 minutes blah blah blah for publicity. Or something. So that the people who couldn't download it (everyone in reality) want to try it so badly that they buy it. Now, I know that I'm a bit of a conspiracy theorist, but this seems a bit odd, even for me.
Yeh, I tried a site in Sweden that apparently had it. I downloaded the alledged file, but the setup tuned me that the file was incomplete - and that I should re-download it. I re-got it with wget...same thing....I smell a scam!
Cept for the fact that you can actually download various Linux distributions. Seems that the folks at Be haven't figured out the art of organisation. Some folks would say that makes them a disorganized company. Err - I dunno really. We'll have to see if they ever actually do release their OS. WHEN, I meant WHEN :)
Joe Soap doesn't want to have to fdisk his HDD or use a risky application like FIPs to get enough space to install the prorgam. Think about it: You're Joe Soap. You're running Windows 98. Now, you've heard about this Beos thing. But your HDD, say a 6gb for argument's sake, is full of Windows 98. What would be easier for Joe Soap? And note, I'm not saying easy as in idiot-proof etc, I'm talking about time. Despite what many of the people on this forum undoubtedly think about the average user, the average user isn't always clueless. In fact, the man on the street has probably, at some point, installed and run Linux. A few of the people on the street, myself included, have even tried FreeBSD and OpenBSD on their Intel boxen. But the man on the street is busy. He wants to try this thing, but he doesn't want to repartition his drive. Of course, in this respect I'm lucky. I have a few boxen always lying around that I can use for experimentation. What I figure I'll do if they ever do release this thing, is download the ISO, make a CD, and boot it on an empty box (ie, has a disk(s) with no defined partitions). And I'll take a look at it. Seriously. Because I believe in assessing all options. I won't just say: "Oh, French. Bleh." Or..."Oh. Microsoft. Bleh." Or..."Oh...BSD...Bleh." The point is, if you had a 6gb HDD with 3gb free, but all on one big partition, what would you do? backup everything, repartition, and reinstall Windows, Linux, etc, or install the darn thing using this method they've got of encapsulating a filesystem within a file? Exactly! Thanks:)
I don't think Be, Inc, believe in mirrors:)
I agree ! Let's see a Python port. And therefore some true cross platform functionality.
My grandmother owns a Credit Union with approximately $500 million turnover. Trust me, security over the internet is not an issue, since the actual transactions are not connected to the outside. This keyboard issue is a bit worrying, though....not for online saftey reasons but internal mess-ups because of it. You'd not think it, but for a 70-yr old lady, she's up to date with the latest technology. Even the new section that's being planned, the Online section of the credit union, she is taking charge of and driving the project. She's reading and studying, getting up to date with the latest cryptography and networking...she isn't a techno expert, but what she does have is the management capability and the ability to collect the right people, work them hard and force them to work together. When the Credit Union first opened, it only had 2 major clients, one of which was the holding company of the Credit Union itself (the corporation took 50%, my grandmother took 50%). Now, only 6 years later, it's a major Credit Union pulling $500 million turnover.
Imagine the implications of this in, say....a Credit Union....such keyboards should be illegalized in places like Credit Unions, government, military, businesses, etc.
I don't even know why I'm replying to this ridiculous post. If that's the case, then I guess that:
VMS == UNIX. (Take the V back, take the M forward, gives you UN, take the top part of the S and turn it around, to for an I, take the rest of the S and put it on its side, forming an X). That's it, VMS == UNIX.
Darn, what logic some of these ACs have.
The guy who lead the NT project, I believe, was the same guy who desgined VMS, Dave Cutler. But I've yet to be presented with any literature which indicates that NT resembles VMS. If you have any concrete evidence of this, please use it to back up this statement. Anyway, I don't think you realize how good VMS actually is. It's been stated by many people that VMS is actually mroe stable than most Unixen. Of course, even my female collie could tell you that most people who claim their preferred platform is stable are simply showing favouritisim to their preferred platform. Nothing more, nothing less. At the corporation I work for we run several platforms. NT is one of them. I set up an NT/Apache server on it in June 1999. Admittedly the load wasn't great, it's internal and only serving ~30 people. It didn't crash until earlier this month. And that was mainly due to the fact that I installed the ACT server on it. The MMX200/64MB RAM apparently can't handle 20 requests to an ACT database. But even my female collie realizes the point here.
Mark Villopillil
404 File Not Found.
Please visit the CyberCities Home Page for Updated Links.
Ummm....that is why Windows 95 sucks? Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Windows 95 fan, but it seems to me that your URL is at fault. Not the operating system. I don't doubt your displeasure with Microsoft and your refusal to accept their operating systems, but there is a better way to demonstrate their flaws than this, surely? A misconfigured website can't be the way. Even my female collie would realize this. So....what's the actual....*point* of this URL? Is there a point? What is the point!. I've been thinking about it for quite a while and I don't think that even my female collie would try and figure out the purpoise of such a URL. Please, do enlighten me. I do apologize profusely if I've offended you, but I am somewhat puzzled. I'm sure that I typed in the URL correctly. It sent me around some Cybercities/ku/ site and then ended up with this error message:
404 File Not Found.
Please visit the CyberCities Home Page for Updated Links.
I'm still waiting to see the problem with Windows 95....I ah, ah....heh heh. What's it again? Sorry - heh. Not very much point to that, I'm afraid. I like Anti-Gates sites as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous. It doesn't work. Check the link! Contact your administrator! anything!
It's been ten minutes since I started writing this post. I've just tried the link again. I wanted to ensure it wasn't a fault on my part, or that the site had some temporary problem. The same thing happens. Same thing. Missing File. I'll contact the administrator of Cybercities and complain about it personally.
-Mark Villopillil.
Even my female collie could write a better system than SCO UNIX. But the fact is, the 45-yr old managers out there are usually quite reserved and usually have heard of SCO, while also having heard about Linux and FreeBSD, they'd rather go with an established product like SCO, even if it doesn't make technical sense.
Give me a break. Even my female collie could write a better Operating System than Windows 2000. The people in my department wanted to evaluate it last year. Beta 3. Well, I had a spare machine lying on my desk. I'd just used it to test the then-current FreeBSD 3.2. Anyway, I deleted FreeBSD and began the Windows install. No prob. I wasn't too sure about the concept of Forests, trees, and Active Directories, but I was amazed that I couldn't add it as a BDC to the current network. In other words, they're trying to make you switch over all of your servers to Windows 2000. Now, I'm not sure about anyone else, but that sounds a bit of a slap in the face for the consumers, to me. Like: "Thanks for using NT 4. Now upgrade everything, and we mean everything, to Windows 2000 - asshole!". Oh, sorry. You can use Professional for Desktops in any event :) I didn't like that much either, though. I could get Dungeon Keeper 2 running under it. Switched back to Windows 98. What's worse, I had to do a low-level format of the drive to get the darn partitions that 2000 made off. All in all, I'm certain that my female collie wouldn't use Windows 2000, and she'd probably be able to write a better system.