from the tone of your post it sounds you are, like me, old enough to remember the days when Usenet, around the time of the Great Renaming and the introduction of the new hierarchies, were flooded with "newbies". you probably remember old timers back then declaring that "the good ol days are over" and proclaiming the intention to go offline. the ones who did, have certainly missed a lot of fun.
"The days of technical pioneering are over. The technology has been invented and built and deployed. It's not changing rapidly like it used to."
until very recently, internet reached people through cables, now it reaches them through airwaves. we are in the middle of changing the very addressing system of the core protocol. we are embracing arguably the most significant update of HTML in decades. the face of user land if anything is changing even faster.
of course, if you take historical RFCs and look at them framed on a wall, many are still perfectly valid and this can give you the impression that stuff is not changing so fast.
But honestly, that's like not seeing any change in the transportation system since horse carriages, just because wheels are already invented and deployed.
"The opportunities that exist now are business opportunities for sleazy entrepreneurs to sell shit to idiots. Keep chasing those unicorns."
cheer up, some entrepreneurs are very sleazy, some are very clever and well intentioned, most are in the middle, all of them are human.
I enjoy the spirit of your post, but I would disagree that the days of 'pioneering' are over . from a broader historical perspective, the internet is still very young, there is still an enormous amount of stuff to be invented and figured out around it, we are still grappling to fully understand what it means to humanity, and from a business perspective its still a place where clever guys with some ideas and good luck can go from zero to a billion in a couple of years - which isn't the case in the steel industry. its still quite pioneers time to me.
arguably, even if the ROI was absolutely nihil, 300M to experiment with a non-carbon technology are still a reasonably good investment for the long term security of Americans. Better than, say, half a wing of one of these: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
if a Belgian had invented the wheel, would we all be stealing from the Belgian people or we would thank them and move on? We don't think of stealing from the Romans, even if our basic idea of how to organize an army is largely derived, through the century, from theirs. Oh, we also learned quite a bit from Napoleon. And where would be modern military aviation without the Germans? The British were the first to have a truly global Navy, my guess would be that they learned a thing or two in the process, technically and otherwise. And I would not put past the modern navies to have carefully studied some of such learnings.
At some point information is considered public domain. Any information - if nothing else because at some point the long haul of history clouds everything. Many of us believe that a more expedite process benefits the humankind.
"The only answer you ever get to any of these questions is "Shut up you can't prove anything" which is true"
I hereby accuse you to be an operative of the Secret Great Lizards Conspiracy that I know all about, because i read it on a web site that had actual ANIMATED GIFS OF LIZARDS AND CAPS AND EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!
I may not yet be able to prove my theory conclusively, but the same can be said of Al Capone and OJ Simpson.
"I have to say, I didn't read the whole stack, but the ones I saw didn't seem to be anything other than a couple of people venting opinions in private that would be politically incorrect in public."
yep, there is no more than that. if there was more, you would see the bad parts quoted everywhere.
I'm not sure what your point is here, and i don't mean it rhetorically.
look, we probably agree there's a number of things out there that are simply _not_ a matter of opinion (like "how many stars are there in our solar system?")
if I were to challenge the accepted, patently correct answer ("one"), i'd better come armed with extraordinary data, sound arguments, and the expertise to put them together meaningfully.
the shorthand for this we call "scientific evidence".
if i lack any evidence , and I claim to see a second Sun in the sky, you would question my sanity or my motives, rather than the astronomy in the textbooks.
some questions are open for debate and opinions (is murder the moral choice in very special circumstances, e.g. self defense?).
some questions, on the other hand, are just empirical / factual (how many stars in a system, what's the value of pi, are antibiotics effective against bacterial infections). opinions simply don't count much here, in the face of the correct answer.
lighten up, Francis. besides, people have been adding tiny drawings to their written text for centuries, until the adoption of the printing press, which made it largely impractical for various technical reasons.
technology is catching up and people are using tiny drawings again - its not such a huge deal and certainly not something to spend your hate on. 8-8
the article reads like a barely disguised, PR buzzword filled press release:
"the device first captures your iris pattern for recognition, extracts and digitizes it, and then proceeds to match it with the encrypted code to provide access."
maybe the technology is interesting, but i wouldn't wager on it based on anything with this level of buzznoise-to-content ratio.
I'm not a Hillary fanboy by any stretch of the imagination.
but few individuals in the world have been vetted and scrutinized as much as her, for decades and decades, by domestic and foreign friends and foes, friendly and hostile services, friendly and hostile papers, etc. etc
it's hard to believe that she could possibly hide any major skeletons left in the closet. still possible, but very unlikely: too many powerful people dislike her enough to not leave any stones unturned.
it's a case of misleading headlines (yeah, shocking)
as others have pointed out, the authors don't make any claim that their list represents the 'most popular languages', just that those languages enjoy particularly high visibility on two specific platforms - github and stack overflow.
you have a virtually infinite number of ways to count "popularity", some more useful than others, but each of them inevitably somewhat arbitrary. last time I checked, oracle claimed java to be the world's most popular language, and by the way they measure it, they must be right. heck, you could instead count each web pageview with one line of js as instance of 'program execution', count the big number and have a different winner. don't take it too seriously.
I think you guys both have a point and just talk past each other. At this point, Win and Linux are largely interchangeable for the vast majority of user needs.
Most people these days need just a browser, and at most maybe a mail client, something to play music, to browse their pictures of puppies etc.
If you stick to that, and just click the big default icons on your desktop, you probably won't even notice what OS you are on. Remember that this is perhaps 90% of people outside/.
If you are in certain areas of academia, though, or some specialized technical fields, you will pretty much need Linux.
Conversely, in some administrative fields, or in video editing, and other areas as well, Windows still has the best array of choices and network effects.
Note that in either case you can largely work your way around your OS limitations, even for specialized applications - if you have enough time, knowledge, patience. Arm yourself with Wine, Mono, compilers, virtual machines, open drivers and whatnot: there is no real limit on what you can do on either system, or macos for that matter.
But the people willing to take this effort, are an even smaller subset of the ones who are in need to.
You will always find a guy who does 3d image processing on his microwave - that's cool but not practical.
Slashdot Mirror
Essentially, upon discovering that the pinball was an Ubuntu machine, he connected it to Twitch?
what am i missing? if it is basically that, it does not appear to warrant too much boasting ...
from the tone of your post it sounds you are, like me, old enough to remember the days when Usenet, around the time of the Great Renaming and the introduction of the new hierarchies, were flooded with "newbies".
you probably remember old timers back then declaring that "the good ol days are over" and proclaiming the intention to go offline. the ones who did, have certainly missed a lot of fun.
"The days of technical pioneering are over. The technology has been invented and built and deployed. It's not changing rapidly like it used to."
until very recently, internet reached people through cables, now it reaches them through airwaves. we are in the middle of changing the very addressing system of the core protocol. we are embracing arguably the most significant update of HTML in decades. the face of user land if anything is changing even faster.
of course, if you take historical RFCs and look at them framed on a wall, many are still perfectly valid and this can give you the impression that stuff is not changing so fast.
But honestly, that's like not seeing any change in the transportation system since horse carriages, just because wheels are already invented and deployed.
"The opportunities that exist now are business opportunities for sleazy entrepreneurs to sell shit to idiots. Keep chasing those unicorns."
cheer up, some entrepreneurs are very sleazy, some are very clever and well intentioned, most are in the middle, all of them are human.
I enjoy the spirit of your post, but I would disagree that the days of 'pioneering' are over .
from a broader historical perspective, the internet is still very young, there is still an enormous amount of stuff to be invented and figured out around it, we are still grappling to fully understand what it means to humanity, and from a business perspective its still a place where clever guys with some ideas and good luck can go from zero to a billion in a couple of years - which isn't the case in the steel industry.
its still quite pioneers time to me.
mod AC as 'I know perfectly what you mean but there's no way I'll waste a chance to pedantically show I know protocols'
whoever downmodded this, deserves to be wished a pimple in a very embarrassing place .
arguably, even if the ROI was absolutely nihil, 300M to experiment with a non-carbon technology are still a reasonably good investment for the long term security of Americans. Better than, say, half a wing of one of these:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
if a Belgian had invented the wheel, would we all be stealing from the Belgian people or we would thank them and move on?
We don't think of stealing from the Romans, even if our basic idea of how to organize an army is largely derived, through the century, from theirs. Oh, we also learned quite a bit from Napoleon. And where would be modern military aviation without the Germans? The British were the first to have a truly global Navy, my guess would be that they learned a thing or two in the process, technically and otherwise. And I would not put past the modern navies to have carefully studied some of such learnings.
At some point information is considered public domain. Any information - if nothing else because at some point the long haul of history clouds everything. Many of us believe that a more expedite process benefits the humankind.
"The only answer you ever get to any of these questions is "Shut up you can't prove anything" which is true"
I hereby accuse you to be an operative of the Secret Great Lizards Conspiracy that I know all about, because i read it on a web site that had actual ANIMATED GIFS OF LIZARDS AND CAPS AND EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!
I may not yet be able to prove my theory conclusively, but the same can be said of Al Capone and OJ Simpson.
"I have to say, I didn't read the whole stack, but the ones I saw didn't seem to be anything other than a couple of people venting opinions in private that would be politically incorrect in public."
yep, there is no more than that.
if there was more, you would see the bad parts quoted everywhere.
"Really? They're full "programs"?
Idiots"
I believe you might be slightly overreacting to your semantic concern.
"Oh, I was pretty interested in looking at old computers as a child."
there were NO _old_ computers, when I was a child, you young insensitive clod!
I'm not sure what your point is here, and i don't mean it rhetorically.
look, we probably agree there's a number of things out there that are simply _not_ a matter of opinion (like "how many stars are there in our solar system?")
if I were to challenge the accepted, patently correct answer ("one"), i'd better come armed with extraordinary data, sound arguments, and the expertise to put them together meaningfully.
the shorthand for this we call "scientific evidence".
if i lack any evidence , and I claim to see a second Sun in the sky, you would question my sanity or my motives, rather than the astronomy in the textbooks.
some questions are open for debate and opinions (is murder the moral choice in very special circumstances, e.g. self defense?).
some questions, on the other hand, are just empirical / factual (how many stars in a system, what's the value of pi, are antibiotics effective against bacterial infections).
opinions simply don't count much here, in the face of the correct answer.
"We humans do not have the knowledge needed to modify an ecosystem while accounting for all of the potential outcomes."
that might be true, but we've doing exactly that since we started smashing rocks one against another.
the only effective answer to your concerns is more research and more science.
going back to caves could also work, but few among us want to die at 35.
but some facts are just facts, and some batshit crazy ideas are just plain flat batshit crazy ideas.
"Things fall on Earth because gravity."
"I don't like this gravity of yours. You are a shill for Big Physics?"
See how this doesn't work?
has someone declared tinfoil day on /. and I missed it ?
lighten up, Francis.
besides, people have been adding tiny drawings to their written text for centuries, until the adoption of the printing press, which made it largely impractical for various technical reasons.
technology is catching up and people are using tiny drawings again - its not such a huge deal and certainly not something to spend your hate on. 8-8
the article reads like a barely disguised, PR buzzword filled press release:
"the device first captures your iris pattern for recognition, extracts and digitizes it, and then proceeds to match it with the encrypted code to provide access."
maybe the technology is interesting, but i wouldn't wager on it based on anything with this level of buzznoise-to-content ratio.
fromage!
mods, if you downmod lighthearted humorous comments like parent, you are wishing for a gray world to live in.
"It seems like MS has accepted that they've lost the battle (if not the war) as far as Linux as a cloud-based app server is concerned."
either that or they are "embracing" it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
I'm not a Hillary fanboy by any stretch of the imagination.
but few individuals in the world have been vetted and scrutinized as much as her, for decades and decades, by domestic and foreign friends and foes, friendly and hostile services, friendly and hostile papers, etc. etc
it's hard to believe that she could possibly hide any major skeletons left in the closet. still possible, but very unlikely: too many powerful people dislike her enough to not leave any stones unturned.
I mean, goodbye hello.
it's a case of misleading headlines (yeah, shocking)
as others have pointed out, the authors don't make any claim that their list represents the 'most popular languages', just that those languages enjoy particularly high visibility on two specific platforms - github and stack overflow.
you have a virtually infinite number of ways to count "popularity", some more useful than others, but each of them inevitably somewhat arbitrary.
last time I checked, oracle claimed java to be the world's most popular language, and by the way they measure it, they must be right.
heck, you could instead count each web pageview with one line of js as instance of 'program execution', count the big number and have a different winner. don't take it too seriously.
I think you guys both have a point and just talk past each other.
At this point, Win and Linux are largely interchangeable for the vast majority of user needs.
Most people these days need just a browser, and at most maybe a mail client, something to play music, to browse their pictures of puppies etc.
If you stick to that, and just click the big default icons on your desktop, you probably won't even notice what OS you are on. Remember that this is perhaps 90% of people outside /.
If you are in certain areas of academia, though, or some specialized technical fields, you will pretty much need Linux.
Conversely, in some administrative fields, or in video editing, and other areas as well, Windows still has the best array of choices and network effects.
Note that in either case you can largely work your way around your OS limitations, even for specialized applications - if you have enough time, knowledge, patience. Arm yourself with Wine, Mono, compilers, virtual machines, open drivers and whatnot: there is no real limit on what you can do on either system, or macos for that matter.
But the people willing to take this effort, are an even smaller subset of the ones who are in need to.
You will always find a guy who does 3d image processing on his microwave - that's cool but not practical.