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Donald Trump Signs Pledge To Crack Down On Internet Porn (pcworld.com)
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has pledged to crack down on Internet pornography via corporate partnerships -- and he could possibly establish a federal commission on the harmful effects of porngraphy, a nonprofit announced Monday. The announcement comes a day after the New York Post ran a full-page nude photo of Melania Trump, wife of Donald Trump, on its cover. PCWorld reports: Enough is Enough, a nonprofit dedicated to confronting online pornography, child pornography, child stalking and sexual predation, published Trump's signed pledge on Monday. Trump's opponent Hillary Clinton refused to sign the pledge, Enough is Enough said, though her campaign told EiE that she supported its goals. "Preventing the sexual exploitation of youth online requires a multi-faceted holistic strategy with a shared responsibility between the public, industry, and government," Donna Rice Hughes, the chief executive of Enough is Enough, said in a statement. "The need for aggressive enforcement of existing laws and adequate funding for Law Enforcement to do the job is long overdue. For nearly two decades, bi-partisan government commissions, task forces, Internet safety groups, and researchers, who have recognized the significant risks associated with unfettered Internet access by youth, and have called upon the government and law enforcement to take aggressive action."
This makes no sense.
Porn is a menace. We should ban it.
Ban everything.
Everything is bad.
This might look like a moral crusade to you but porn has fundamentally altered the relationship dynamics of the modern world.
Let the kids fap?
You are being ripped off every second of every day, so that advertisers can help rip you off even more tomorrow.
It's time for the ringer to throw the election and make sure the Clinton Coronation proceeds unfettered.
if this isn't a deal breaker for the 22% of slashdotters who would vote for Trump https://slashdot.org/poll/2997...
put everyone in cages and chains. then they're prevented from harming themselves and others. world peace in our life time.
Build a firewall and make the internets pay for it!
So much for being the cool candidate.
America, land of the sexually repressed and violent.
I wonder if the carpet matches the drapes?
Man he is really dedicated to getting back that sex tape.
He's done. If he thinks, Hillary or Ted are annoying, prepare for a 100 Million horny nerds...
Without porn the Internet would be a ghost town.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/...
The artist got beat up a couple times for this.
I want to hear from the feminist advocates, especially from Melania Trump herself.
Trump: "Porn’s not going to go into the Internets, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want."
Can't wait to see how this is going to turn out...
Wasn't Donna Rice Hughes the chick that was screwing the married Senator Gary Hart? I remember her. She was screwing a married man. Let me guess: she is a Born Again Christian? Christians would be funny if they weren't so harmful and pathetic.
I'm pretty sure he just lost the election right now...
miss America swimsuit competition?
Crack down on porn == Think of the children and allow us to implement internet censorship (it won't just be used for pron).
who could be elected president. His fan base are white racists - they have no other options.
This is a perfect manoeuver to peak against net neutrality rules. "Well, porn *is* legal, so if we craft specific online channels, those who want evil, filthy smut can pay a premium for it." This will be the first step in covering that slippery slope in Astroglide.
Why was that an AC post? Lack of appropriate evidence? Without saying whether or not I would personally look at any porn, I can present such evidence:
Around '97 I was working for one of the first ISPs in this country, and the president came right out and said that porn was paying for the Internet. I can't remember his exact words, but that was the gist of it. (Can't ask him now because he got shot to death when he was visiting the States a few years later (but that's another diversion).) I feel like the context of the discussion had included the newsgroup alt.binaries, which I had been running through UUCP between two other ISPs... His company owned one end of a major fiber link and the traffic volume was heavy on the porn. A frame relay pipe? Bad sign when all the personal details start feeling like histories of the Greeks and Romans.
Having said that, maybe this is a case of the broken clock being right twice a day? Here's Bill Maher's version in text form:
http://www.hbo.com/real-time-w...
Another bad sign? I remember the video as though it was much more recent than 2011, but the text seems to match my memories pretty well.
Porn considered harmful?
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Parental responsibility?
In the USA? Are you kidding? A place where parents can't leave their kids in a car 5 minutes while they run an errand? Can't let their kids play in a park next to their home? Can't let a 14 year old stay at home by themselves for an hour before parent gets home from work?
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Before the Donald / Ivanka sex tape gets leaked
This could be a deciding factor for me.
Then why don't you talk to this "Enough is Enough" group and tell them to take the non-child pornography off the list of things they want to ban?
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
Couldn't find an HBO version, but here's a link to the video:
http://yourbrainonporn.com/com...
Did I mention that I worked in a convenience store during my student days...
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
I assume what he means is now that he's removed Melania's Bio website he will be issuing take down notices to all the sites sporting nude photos of his wife during her modeling career.
I think the real interesting bit, which the summary decided to leave out, is in TFA:
Clinton's campaign reportedly says that it supports the pledge's goals.
If memory serves (and I could be wrong), wasn't Clinton one of the advocates for greater control of video games back when that was the menace du jour that we must protect children from?
http://assets.amuniversal.com/...
Child porn is already highly illegal, buddy. Did you not notice that, or what?
Also, just more evidence that apparently he has NOT read the Constitution.
Be against child porn? Absolutely. No problems with that, it's already against the law and is obviously harmful to children because it exploits them and damages them -- but all pornography? No. A legal adult viewing content created using legal adults is not anything that should be 'cracked down on'. You don't like it, don't watch it, but don't tell me or anyone else what we can and can't watch.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
My parents did a lousy job when it came to pornography. I had to go over to a friend's house to look at his father's stack of Playboy magazines. I have fond memories of Playboy back in the 1970's.
By that he will lose 98% of his constituency
The NY Post just ran a story this weekend about Melania Trump posing nude in a lesbian-themed photo shoot. This is open hypocrisy, really.
No b00bs, more guns!
I wonder if this has anything to do with the nude photos of Trump's wife.
This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal.
So this would be "vote clit-non" rather than "vote clin-ton".
He's just trying to drive up the price of the booth rentals and DVDs in his porn shops, *Step right in, all girl show, come inside*. The internet is competition.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Did you see the picture of the guy (Alé de Basseville) taking the photos? Seriously, I think he might be a vampire.
BeauHD. Worst editor since kdawson.
Trump's opponent Hillary Clinton refused to sign the pledge, Enough is Enough said, though her campaign told EiE that she supported its goals
So essentially, the other band said "We're not signing this but we are totally for fighting child pornography". I think the main issue is that the NGO mixes child pornography (illegal and universally condemned) with regular pornography (legal and with mixed reception among voters), so they could not take a stance without getting in a position where they could be accused of assisting child pornographers or something like that.
...because they're not trying to ban porn. They're trying to ban child porn, and they're trying to restrict access to all the rest to those old enough to view it. How do they think they'll pull this off? That's anyone's guess. It'll probably even be impossible to achieve. However there's nothing wrong with the goals. We don't let minors buy porn mags, why would we let them surf porn on the internet?
BeauHD. Worst editor since kdawson.
The title has to sell it the right way to catch the groundswell of indignation properly.
Republican porn.
He is their S&M fantasy.
His hair [sic] a right wing fetish.
Hearing him howl gets them hard.
His little fingers makes them wet.
*It's the name you know*
Porn is only for the rich. Donald Trump will make it so.
Melania porn?
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/donald-trump-melania-trump-knauss-first-lady-erections
that he will be able to take down all the porn on the internet?
The best he can do is slow it down. Which means there will still be 100 times more porn than you can watch available.
. . . I don't suppose DT bothered to check and see just what demographic of America he's been attracting every time he tries to channel Archie Bunker, but just to say - he might consider doing a quick back-walk on this one . . .
....time he does an interview then, eh?
Gonna build that wall.
Make America great again.
Boot the Muslims out.
Bring back jobs.
Beat up the Chinese on trade.
Form a new inquisition for porn.
Busy man indeed.
which is FABULOUS
My bad, I shouldn't have assumed when they listed regular pornography in a list of things that are illegal and should be banned, it was because they wanted to ban regular pornography too. Maybe we should confront pedophiles, terrorists and PR people?
If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
who could be elected president. His fan base are white racists - they have no other options.
It's clear there is a section of his support base for whom this is true, but if that were all he had, or even most of what he had, he'd have no chance. No, much more of his support comes from people who deeply oppose globalization and people who are just mad at the establishment and want anything else.
I have to admit that the clearly racist part of his base is, sadly, much larger than I thought it could be.
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Well, someone's got to stop posting those pics of Melania.
Just like George Bush expanded the size and intrusion of the government over the people via the TSA and the Department of Homeland Security, Trump will blindly follow his lead and create an even larger, and more expensive, federal government while at the same time claiming he'll cut taxes to increase revenue.
Where have we heard this fantasy before?
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Aside from appeasing social conservatives, I doubt he really cares.
Would you Bernie-or-bust trolls shut the fuck up? If you can't tell the difference between Trump and Clinton then you're being fucking stupid.
Finally... Donald Trump misfires on the one issue that actually hits people at home. No one will vote for him now...
Exactly. Hilary Clinton is a bulldog in makeup and Donald Trump is an Oompa Loompa with tiny hands. Clearly not the same.
Since we all can't have Melania Trump quality wives (appearance wise), how terrible is it to fantasize about one? I guess there are folks that will over do it, but that can be said for just about any activity. Didn't we learn what happens when we prohibit something that people really need to remain sane (booze)? Maybe Playboy was too hasty and we will see those nude centerfolds return. Here's to hoping that my 100's of gigs of porn are grandfathered, and that they are enough to last a lifetime.
I am completely against this. It bothers me on a couple different levels.
1) Can we stop using bigger government to solve problems that don't need to be solved by government? There are plenty of routers and filters available for parents to purchase if they don't want their children to see anything bad on the internet. Or better yet, if you are so concerned, maybe don't give your child their own phone at 7 years old and then expect the government to protect them.
2) As a Christian, I don't want to restrict your God given freedoms by imposing my morals on you. I think I have a better way. I don't want to force that on you. I want you to see (through how I live my life) that my way is better and willingly and voluntarily joining me on this path. I am so tired of Christians trying to force religion on other further alienating non-Christians.
Do I think porn is good for relationships? Absolutely not. But why is it the governments responsibility to "protect" relationships? If you want messed up relationships (assuming porn causes messed up relationships), go for it, it is your God given right.
My apologies to everyone whose God given freedoms have been restricted by Christians who are trying to do "what is best for you" and treating you as children as a result...
When Donald Trump bans porn, it only means one thing.
He wants to have it all for himself.
Thank goodness for this crackdown. It is well past time that someone did something to improve the quality of Internet porn.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Free Speech? The pursuit of happiness?
I knew Trump was a demagogue and it could go bad but the idea of real change (not Obama non-change) appealed to me, but his ignorance of the Constitution is too much. I loathe Hillary for her lies and facade, but at least she's got continuity. Life won't get better under Hillary unless you're in the 1% club, but at least it won't get worse.
Fuck you, Trump, for squandering an opportunity.
You underestimate the impressive levels of cognitive dissonance practiced by Trump supporters. . . (watch them rant against this post with their one free hand. . .)
The biggest issue in this election will be job security. Some 75 million US households (about half of all the workforce) cannot cover a surprise $400 expense, and 76% of all Americans are living paycheck-to-paycheck.
On one side we have Clinton, who wants to expand US globalization and also give citizenship to illegal aliens, which will dump 17 million new job seekers into the market overnight.
On the other side we have Trump, who wants to move the illegals out of the country and prevent them from coming back, and renegotiate some of our globai agreements.
If you think any other issue is more important, then by all means vote for her.
But if you have concerns over job uncertainty, then Trump's the way to go.
That's not cognitive dissonance, it's called "prioritizing".
Nothing is a deal breaker for Trump fans. Trump could rape the father of one of his supporters and the supporter would cheer. Or at least blame Hillary.
Job security will be the overriding issue for this election. Clinton wants to expand globalism and give citizenship to illegals, adding 17 million new job seekers, while Trump wants to move the illegals out of the country and renegotiate some of the global agreements.
Let me put it in terms you might understand.
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I'm sick of headline having nothing to do with the post. Even the article's headline had nothing to do with the article. There's a huge difference between cracking down on porn, and cracking down on child porn.
Where are all the AC's promoting Trump on this thread? I mean if a post about Submarine spying can devolve into a pro-Trump rally, sure this one can too? :P
to stop selling me out to mega corps & the 1% maybe we'll talk. Until then at least Hilary's shit got reigned in by Bernie. Who do you guys got? Mike Pence? Sam Brownback? Yeah... you can just keep on walkin' with that.
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If you click deeply enough to read the actual pledge, it's about child porn and the use of the internet to groom and target children for sexual exploitation. There's something vague about keeping kids away from viewing porn, which could mean anything and so means nothing.
I think most young American males would give up their guns before they give up their porn. Way to shoot yourself in the foot.
Yes, Hillary will be different. She may still be the establishment candidate, but she's not a fucking moron who just spouts out shit seemingly at random. She's hardly the greatest candidate ever, but compared to Trump she's an intellectual and moral giant.
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because they don't make enough money to have and maintain successful long term relationships. Yeah, I know I'm feeding the trolls here, but somebody out there actually believes what this assclown wrote. His comment doesn't exist in a background. It came out of a right wing think tank that's working to divide the working class into voting blocks that win elections for them.
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Most of these comments are just plain stupid. Trump isn't trying to ban porn or disrupt your free tubesteak videos.
He wants to create a nonprofit to 'confront' these things with education. It's not like they're going to sit around playing Debbie does Dallas. Teaching your kids the dangers behind this stuff - real world dangers - is a bad thing?
Democrats are phunny... and stupid.
"a federal commission on the harmful effects of pornography" - the outcome is already defined before the "investigation" begins. Perhaps a non-bias investigation to find facts would be better?
if you think anyone is lame enough to believe your BS you are deluding yourself and insulting the intelligence of everyone around you.
So the great wall of mexico? That I could live with. Dumping crap in a river? Who gives a shit. Dumb comments about the dude who gave his life for the US of A? Meh
Getting rid of porn? Fuck you right in the eye Trump...
Parental responsibility?
In the USA? Are you kidding? A place where parents can't leave their kids in a car 5 minutes while they run an errand? Can't let their kids play in a park next to their home? Can't let a 14 year old stay at home by themselves for an hour before parent gets home from work?
Had CPS at the house, my son had his kids given to him one day (instant parent). His 4 year old asked me if he could have a Pepsi as he grab for one; I said ya I guess, but I really dont know how to handle this one.
All heard, and eyes were on the door as we came out, saw it was a Pepsi and grined. Whew, it was Ok this week.
Even when I was 14 I wouldn't have considered that fap-worthy..... the good old days, when we rooted through the city dump to find discarded issues of Hustler and Penthouse....
love is just extroverted narcissism
Give me a break. You are just echoing Fox "News" spin-memes.
There is absolutely no evidence she KNOWINGLY lied about her emails or Benghazi*.
Saying there "were no X in my emails" when it turned out there were X is not necessarily lying. She may have honestly not known they contained a problem.
We all agree she was careless with her emails, but I screw up emails also. 30k messages passed her way; that's a lot to get 100% right. My own email error rate is probably about 2%. (They should have put a vetting system in place; a second set of eyes who can focus on those things.)
As far as influence peddling, it's been happening for hundreds of years, and made worse recently by the GOP-pushed Citizens United ruling. Most conservatives didn't appear to care at all UNTIL the Democrats (allegedly) got an advantage from it. Crocodile Tears.
And the majority of the mined ore cannot be sold outside the US, it's only a matter of company ownership, not transfer of ore.
* The Benghazi attack party was likely BOTH pre-planned, and enlarged by video rage. The main perp admitted the video bothered him. It's not an either/or situation, like GOP spins it. Nor did they disprove her claim that the intelligence changed over time. GOP produced no change-log or equiv that contradicted her characterization of events.
Table-ized A.I.
He's Mussolini with a three-inch dick
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Why do so many people keep saying this is about child pornography? It's about *ALL* pornography.
Did people even bother to rtfa?
While I agree she isnt the greatest candidate ever (but neither was Bernie), she is an intellectual regardless of who you compare her to. Unfortunately in these times being an intellectual is a no-no.
On the other hand I agree that she is a moral giant only compared to Trump. I laugh at all these idiots who say she has a history of corruption, when Trump's history is just as sordid if not more. If there is one class of people worse than government officials in terms of corruption, its business people.
Fixed that for you and to Mr. Trump.
I have to admit that the clearly racist part of his base is, sadly, much larger than I thought it could be.
Citation needed. Or did you just pull it out of your fucking ass like the rest of your post?
... is the same silly slogan they used for the anti-drug program when I was in junior high. Stellar results, that crackdown on drugs has had. I expect this porn crackdown to have similar impact.
You moron.
You have lumped perfectly normal healthy adults with child molesters and kiddy porn.
I am sure that's going to end well for you you stupid orange twat.
that I have to vote for him.
Regardless, Trump's fate has sealed.
Trump doesn't actually want to win.
I woudl consider voting for a bulldog in lipstick that had an Oompa Loompa with tiny hands as as running mate, or vice versa.
He has one demographic he's ahead in, white men, and he wants to end internet porn? It's official August 1st Donald Trump conceded to Hillary Clinton.
At least in my case, I have to look no further than my facebook feed. The most bigoted, racist, xenophobic people that I've known for years (don't blame me, I live in Indiana), are almost all trump supporters.
The pledge
(for the click impaired)
If elected President of the United State of America, I promise to:
1) Uphold the rule of law by aggressively enforce existing federal laws to prevent the sexual exploitation of children online, including the federal obscenity laws, child pornography laws, sexual predation laws and the sex trafficking laws by:
a. appointing an Attorney General who will make the prosecution of such laws a top priority in my administration and,
b. Providing the intelligence community and law enforcement with the resources and tools needed to investigate and prosecute Internet crimes involving the sexual exploitation of children.
2) Aggressively enforce the Children’s Internet Protection Act (CIPA) requiring schools and public libraries using government eRate monies to filter child pornography and pornography by requiring effective oversight by the Federal Communications Commission;
3) Protect and defend the innocence of America’s children by advancing public policies that prevent the sexual exploitation of children in a manner that is consistent with the government’s compelling interest in protecting its most vulnerable citizens, within the limits set forth by the First Amendment.
4) Give serious consideration to appointing a Presidential Commission to examine the harmful public health impact of Internet pornography on youth, families and the American culture and the prevention of the sexual exploitation of children in the digital age.
5) Establish public-private partnerships with Corporate America to step up voluntary efforts to reduce the threat of the Internet-enabled sexual exploitation of children by the implementation of updated corporate policies and viable technology tools and solutions.
Until now. This could lead to a reversal of that phenomenom.
Maybe Melania is addicted to Internet porn and Trump is just trying to get her to like his body more.
who could be elected president. His fan base are white racists - they have no other options.
It's clear there is a section of his support base for whom this is true, but if that were all he had, or even most of what he had, he'd have no chance. No, much more of his support comes from people who deeply oppose globalization and people who are just mad at the establishment and want anything else.
I have to admit that the clearly racist part of his base is, sadly, much larger than I thought it could be.
A simpler theory is simply that "leaned Republicans" (in Pew Polling terminology, self identifying Republicans plus Republican leaning "independents") will vote as they always have, pulling the lever for the "R" regardless of how qualified or unqualified that person might be. 85% of all "leaned Republicans" plan on voting for Trump. Evangelical Republicans support Trump at a rate of 94%, they constituted nearly half of all the votes Romney got.
Second class citizen of the New Gilded Age
If the Democrats get a supermajority?
What the fuck have you been smoking?
As much as I'd like to see the GOP lose Congress,I invite you to go count vulnerable seats up for re-election and then atone for your temporary insanity.
She refused to sign the same thing, so to call them the same is directly contradicting reality.
Learn to love Alaska
Every seat in the house is up. You know, like, all of them? Every two years? But don't sweat a thing. The smart money is still on the regular 95% reelection rate. Don't wanna rock that apple cart.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
...because they're not trying to ban porn. They're trying to ban child porn, and they're trying to restrict access to all the rest to those old enough to view it. How do they think they'll pull this off? That's anyone's guess. It'll probably even be impossible to achieve. However there's nothing wrong with the goals. We don't let minors buy porn mags, why would we let them surf porn on the internet?
...because they're not trying to ban porn. They're trying to ban child porn,
Yes they are. They were initially explicitly an anti-pornography organization and added anti-child-porn to their platform later. They supported (and still support) raiding magazine stands, anti-porn education in schools, and were heavy lobbiers for the Communications Decency Act of 1996 and the Child Online Protection Act of 1998. They criticized the .xxx domain, because they didn't think that adult sites on the Internet should ever be legitimized. They absolutely hate "regular pornography," and they're using an age-old tactic that often works: combine two issues, and count an attack on one to be an attack on the other. They know that just attacking regular pornography is not an issue that that many people care about. But people are scared to be thought of as condoning child molestation or child pornography.. so you combine the two. "Oh, you don't want to sign our pledge to investigate the harm of internet porn and prosecute pedophiles? Why, do you support child pornography?"
And what do you mean "they want to ban child porn?" Child Porn is already illegal in the US, it's one of the most underground of illegal online activities.
"Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has pledged to crack down on Internet pornography"
What a fucking imbecile.
It's okay for his wife to pose naked by herself and in the arms of other women, but apparently if other people want to watch porn, that's wrong.
I repeat: what a fucking imbecile.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
It's clear there is a section of his support base for whom this is true, but if that were all he had, or even most of what he had, he'd have no chance.
That's all he has, and it's still close.
I have to admit that the clearly racist part of his base is, sadly, much larger than I thought it could be.
The BLM-haters say that there's no race issue. But reality seems to indicate otherwise. Millions of people voting for Trump, who promises racism and hate. Maybe 5 of those 40,000,000 don't think he's actually racist and like his economic policies, but I think that'd be a generous estimate.
Learn to love Alaska
We're gonna build a great firewall, and they're gonna pay for it!
...because they're not trying to ban porn. They're trying to ban child porn
If you listen to these people, you'll realize they use the two terms interchangeably. They don't seem to recognize any sort of difference between adult and child porn.
In actuality they are both establishment candidates, and so is Johnson. The world ruling class have the deck so heavily stacked, you need not bother dealing with politics as usual. Instead get educated about Hobbes and his underling Locke and how Locke doesn't fall as far from the tree as people claim. Learn about how The Federalist Papers tried to manipulate the people and how they stacked the deck for the passage of the Constitution.
"in these times being an intellectual is a no-no."
As opposed to which times?
I am prepared for the apocalypse. I have enough porn to last decades. Trump will have to take my porn from my cold, hard wanking hand.
Hey, that's not appropriate, don't group pedophiles and terrorists with the spawns of hell.
GOERING: Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
GILBERT: There is one difference. In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
GOERING: Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
Interesting. I wonder how many people Trump had murdered then...
First they came for the Immigrants, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an Immigrant.
Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Muslim.
Then they came for the Porn, and you can bet your ass I spoke out then!
From the 1930's to about the 1950's or so, most normal people idolized the cream of the intelligentsia, Albert Einstein was quite the celebrity in his day, even among common folk. Werner Von Braun and the Rocket Kids of the 1950's-1960's were probably the last of the scientists regular people looked up to.
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I doubt it. Nobody believes that the porn clampdown can happen, and the naked Melania photoset is likely to improve his electoral chances.
There wasn't a rational reason to vote for Trump before, his campaign ideas being utterly irrational. There still isn't, but any personal dislike of Donald may well be tempered a bit after seeing elegant and tasteful images of a naked Melania Trump in her early career. It's an all-too-easy pun to make, but sex totally trumps reason, it always has and it always will as long as humans are influenced by their hormones. It may not turn a No vote into a Yes, but it will affect people's opinion of him. He's been humanized a little.
A once-naked model in the White House (with the chance of more images to come) would be one of the few unexpected attractions in an otherwise pointless political contest where voting usually achieves nothing. The images don't seem to bother him in the slightest anyway, and in a rare streak of rationality he seems quite proud of them. Only his opponents will lose out over this issue, regardless of what they say.
These images may well win Trump the election if it hangs in the balance, because he handled it so well instead of going ballistic, and all sides will very rightly defend Melania over them. While it's highly unlikely that showing off his wife's assets for the whole world to admire was planned, what happened might be quite appealing to his exceptional ego. One way or another, Melania's past career has probably done him a big favor.
I was all for Trump but this is madness. He's against internet porn? That's just un-American!
Trump really had me with his bizarre allegations, his off-topic and extraneous rants against, well, all sorts of things, and his peculiar dislike of foreigners and immigrants. And of course Hillary. Trump really needs an opposition and his rants against Rosie were getting stale; fortunately Hillary has revitalized the whole existential opposite thing he has going.
But Trump is against porn!? This cannot stand!! Or is it only internet porn he's against? No, No, it's still too much. The internets democratized porn, it belongs in the category of a Chicken in Every Pot, and Porn on Every Monitor. Don't take away our porn Donald!
Note, Trump has all his "Make American Great Again" swag made outside the USA, along with his suits, and almost everything else.
You might want to check snopes and other sources before you post things.
It's not terribly difficult, and will prevent other from calling you out as a liar.
Fist they came for the Mexicans, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Mexican.
Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Muslim.
Then they came for the Obama Care, and I did not speak out— Because I was not on the 16% of uninsured Americans.
Then they came for the Porn! Thanks God we didn't repeal our Second Amendment Rights.
.. hack into Trumps computer and publish his stash of porn. .. Ohh wait he will appologise and turn to be deporned christ, and people will love him for his bigotery.
At this point we're making dueling assertions, and neither of us has anything to back them up beyond anecdotal experience. In my case that experience is of talking to a few dozen Trump supporters, and reading the comments of many more. What's yours?
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That's an inadequate explanation, especially for the evangelicals who have many reasons to despise Trump.
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I have to admit that the clearly racist part of his base is, sadly, much larger than I thought it could be.
Citation needed. Or did you just pull it out of your fucking ass like the rest of your post?
It's anecdotal, certainly. What have you got?
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An interesting enough proposition, but I'm not convinced, at least yet.
I did not live those times myself, but I would have guessed that even though Einstein and von Braun had their fame, most normal people had their long term attention focused on things they could better understand.
Did people even look up to the "Rocket Kids"?
What this means are two things.
1) If elected he will be ready to command your personal lives at will, he will not ask the public what they want he will impose his POTUS will just like treasonous Obama. Executive order 51555 No jacking off.
2) He is saying he really doesn't want to be POTUS but is really assisting Bernie Sanders the sneak candidate to not look better, but to look more anti-worse. All Jew shit between Trump and Sanders, but Sanders is a Semite and Trump is not. This is an Israeli sneak.
So what you get is you either want the Democrats, or Trump/Sanders... and if you want to jack off you better pick Sanders. Trump wasn't so stupid he shot himself in the foot pre-election saying he will get rid of photos of people.
Lot on the line with this much public debt and Saudi Arabia having so much oil.
Banning porn is obvious, but will he also ban sites selling Slovanian brides?
Slashdot social media options: AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, Jabber and Mobile Text. Why no MySpace?
Did you see the picture of the guy (Alé de Basseville) taking the photos? Seriously, I think he might be a vampire.
So you are saying that he infected Meiania and via Melania Trump also became a vampire? That is about the best explanation so far.
Are you kidding? (Pun intended) The entire "Space Age" had the world completely enthused in the 50's and 60's, everybody looked up to the astronauts and rocket scientists, as they were thought to hold the promise of a better future for all. Oh, well...
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She will be. Instead of banning porn, she'll just jail the men who watch it as 'rape enablers.'
Smarter just means she's better at doing whatever she wants to do.
I have to admit that the clearly racist part of his base is
Well, part of the problem is that population of people has been called racist so many times for their personal beliefs over the last decade, they're starting to not care and the word doesn't mean anything anymore.
If anyone on the Democrat side ever wants to bring these voters over, they'd try and do their best to understand that wanting to protect one's culture, even if you're white, doesn't amount to racism.
They do, but remember that all those reasons to despise Trump apply just as much to Hillary. That's why they despise Trump: On the key issues for evangelicals - abortion, homosexuality, government-sponsored prayer - he is no different from a Democrat. The only position he has that they do agree with is his proposal on kicking Muslims out of the country.
"Donald Trump Signs Pledge to Crack Down on Child Exploitation Online." - THERE, I CORRECTED THE HEADLINE FOR YOU.
You can all stop looking like creeps now for attacking Trump over... defending Children from pedophiles online? Gee, Hillary wouldn't sign that pledge.
THE CHILDRENâ(TM)S INTERNET SAFETY PRESIDENTIAL PLEDGE:
- PLEDGE -
If elected President of the United State of America, I promise to:
1) Uphold the rule of law by aggressively enforce existing federal laws to prevent the sexual exploitation of children online, including the federal obscenity laws, child pornography laws, sexual predation laws and the sex trafficking laws by:
a. appointing an Attorney General who will make the prosecution of such laws a top priority in my administration and,
b.Providing the intelligence community and law enforcement with the resources and tools needed to investigate and prosecute Internet crimes involving the sexual exploitation of children
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2) Aggressively enforce the Childrenâ(TM)s Internet Protection Act (CIPA) requiring schools and public libraries using government eRate monies to filter child pornography and pornography by requiring effective oversight by the Federal Communications Commission;
3) Protect and defend the innocence of Americaâ(TM)s children by advancing public policies that prevent the sexual exploitation of children in a manner that is consistent with the governmentâ(TM)s compelling interest in protecting its most vulnerable citizens, within the limits set forth by the First Amendment.
4) Give serious consideration to appointing a Presidential Commission to examine the harmful public health impact of Internet pornography on youth, families and the American culture and the prevention of the sexual exploitation of children in the digital age.
5) Establish public-private partnerships with Corporate America to step up voluntary efforts to reduce the threat of the Internet-enabled sexual exploitation of children by the implementation of updated corporate policies and viable technology tools and solutions.
The polls and the actions and reaction of Trump supporters.
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"We are dedicated to continue raising public awareness about the dangers of Internet pornography." - Enough.org, main page.
"The two primary Internet dangers today are children's free and easy access to all types of pornography, and sexual predators' easy and anonymous access to children." - Enough.org, 'about us.'
"[Enough is Enough President] Hughes says combining the policing of raunchy footage of consenting adults with advocacy against child abuse makes sense, citing what she says are high rates of teens viewing bestiality and group sex, and the potential that viewing hardcore porn could be a steppingstone to further depths." - http://enough.org/news/2IB385Y...
Yes, they just want to ban child abuse, right?
Read their website and you see why: They repeat a claim many times that pornography is just a gateway that instills the urge to view child abuse somehow - never mind that if that were the case, half the population of the US would be trying to sneak into a playground right now.
Here's one example but you don't have to look far to find others:
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[EiE President] Hughes says combining the policing of raunchy footage of consenting adults with advocacy against child abuse makes sense, citing what she says are high rates of teens viewing bestiality and group sex, and the potential that viewing hardcore porn could be a steppingstone to further depths.
"Bestiality and anal sex online, that's the new normal," she says. "This entire sex industry is tied together, so it's like fighting the drug war ... just completely ignoring the obscenity laws [but combating child porn] would be like saying, 'We've got a war on drugs, but we're only going to concentrate on meth and heroin.' That's not going to do a very good job."
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http://www.usnews.com/news/art...
Ummm, no. Sorry to burst your memory bubble, but people looked up to dipshits in Hollywood, baseball stars and anti-intellectuals like those leading the John Birch society.
That era basically created the Orange County Republican phenomenon leading to the rise of the religious right. It was one of the most religious eras in American history, responsible for putting "under God" in our pledge of allegiance, lest we be compared to the godless communists.
Porn can cause problems for many people. The root causes, however, are not with porn. One is failure to develop sensible disciplined habits around viewing it, and just as failing to develop sensible disciplined habits around driving makes driving a liability, and likewise with consumption of alcohol, and many other things. Second is trying to live a life where, in trying to meet the expectations of others, you end up effectively in a silent war with a caged and frustrated sex drive in a world saturated with beautiful young potential mates (of either gender). In this state, as soon as your brain senses an outlet, it is akin to desperation for a drink of water, or to take a pee. If you give in, and many will give in, (and many who do no will develop mental health problems due to the levels of stress, anxiety and confusion involved), your brain will remember the path to what it was desperate for (whether food, drugs, porn, sex, or whatever) as if it is a life-saving escape route. Just as with breaking under torture, once you give in once, your brain will be rewired and it will be almost impossible to hold out again. But humans do not, and cannot have, in general, anything like the infinite resolve and discipline required for the unicorn powered dream of people marrying in strictly monogamous heterosexual marriages and not having or desiring sex in any other circumstances. In the modern world, people must have safe effective and readily available outlets for sexual drives which would otherwise cause problems. Restraint is akin to holding off to go to the bathroom: an important short-term solution which in the case of toilet training everybody has learned, but holding off from taking a pee until you've found the one true toilet you can use for the rest of your life and formed and exclusive relationship with it. To be clear, I am not likening sex and lovemaking to taking a pee, but at the level of our fundamental drives, they are alike in how they work in our brains.
I like to point to an article from the guardian about pure O, and do read there how porn was used in a disciplined therapeutic setting. Discipline, awareness and being sensible make all the difference, but must be learned. https://www.theguardian.com/so...
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http://enough.org/objects/EIE-...
While it is true they speak of internet child porn, they also speak about NORMAL porn. Look for obscenity as a keyword (good luck defining that) and look up paragraph 4 and the research section among others : they are speaking of normal porn impact on youth , NOT child porn.
BLM is a racist movement, though.
Business people can be ethical and honest. It just happens that Trump is neither ethical nor honest. He has fucked over so many people, businesses and banks that it's amazing he can still find anyone to do business with.
I woudl consider voting for a bulldog in lipstick that had an Oompa Loompa with tiny hands as as running mate, or vice versa.
I have the most amazing coincidence to report.
I'm sorry, I didn't read the article, but a) did his wife sign the pledge? b) If she did are people not allowed to change their minds about things (wasn't the photo 25 years ago?) c) You probably don't mean to imply this, but when I read your post it sounds slightly like you think his wife should share his opinions?
Must a wife really defer to her husbands opinions? [troll] Are you muslim? [/troll]
Yeah, all those fucking racists wanting equality, and no more. How dare they want to be able to walk down the street without being executed.
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that he hopes for to be elected mainly by angry white older men...
" Learn about how The Federalist Papers tried to manipulate the people and how they stacked the deck for the passage of the Constitution."
But look at the mess that they inherited; fourteen ineffectual Presidents starting with Hancock, a bankrupt Government, worthless regional currencies, and every State utterly self-absorbed. If things had gone on as they were, the US would then have ended up like the contemporary Italian peninsula or the tottering remains of the Holy Roman Empire. (Both of which emerged nearly a century later as unified Italy and Germany respectively, and that didn't end well.)
Inherent in the nature of the new Government proposed was a _strong_ Executive branch, with the power to call up Military forces as needed, (The second and third Amendments are far more interlinked than is commonly thought; initially there would be no expensive Standing Army, only a Navy.), and the power to stabilize the Economy, and the power to act as the one Voice in Foreign Affairs. It is to Washington's credit that one of his first acts was to establish a nearly independent Federal Courts System and the Supreme Court, that he knew would at times oppose him and future Presidents.
The Constitution nonetheless is a mess; it acknowledged Slavery and established White Male Power Rule for one thing. It established a means of Amending, while making it afterwards damn difficult, so from the very beginning, ways were found to get around it by all three Branches. It is both strongly Conservative in tone and Classically Liberal in thought. It is a relic of its time. Anybody who is a strict Constitutionalist these days is either a Fool or a Charlatan.
"In actuality they are both establishment candidates, and so is Johnson."
Um... We _are_ the Establishment. Yes we squabble, and yes, it isn't cream that rises to the top. I am, for want of a better term, Anti-Establishment when I think in Utopian terms; a Pragmatic Cooperative Socialist with a fondness for Parliamentary Rule. But as long as I use Dollars, and pay Taxes, and (mostly) obey the Laws of the Land, and use the Infrastructure so thoughtfully laid down by others before me, I am part of the Establishment. And so are You.
"online pornography, child pornography, child stalking and sexual predation"
One of these things is not like the others.
If anyone on the Democrat side ever wants to bring these voters over, they'd try and do their best to understand that wanting to protect one's culture, even if you're white, doesn't amount to racism.
I'm not a Democrat by any means, but most of the time it really does, regardless of what color your skin is.
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The polls and the actions and reaction of Trump supporters.
Polls support my argument. The actions and reactions of Trump supporters don't really say much at all, because the only ones you see are those that get the media's attention because of their extremism. That says a lot about the extremes, but doesn't do anything to give you insight into the rest. Well, other than that they're willing to ignore the extremists... but Trump supporters are willing to ignore all sorts of stuff.
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He is a genius businessman, laying the groundwork for redistribution fights for his wife's nude pics.
I'm supporting "Extinction-Event Asteroid" this November considering the current choices....
That was more of a political trick though, "We have to beat the Russians at the "Space Race"!"
Damn right, no one with a brain is voting for Trump.
Before they invented modern "liberal arts", so that people who couldn't handle the rigors of Mathematic, Philosophy, Physics, or Natural Science could still get a degree and claim to be intelligentsia.
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"online pornography, child pornography, child stalking and sexual predation"
One of these things is not like the others, one of these things does not belong...
Both Microsoft and Google applauds this secretly. They do most of the censorship themselves with piss-poor algorithms and it's not generating money.
They rather slap a good-guy-badge onto their web page, received from some semi-governmental morality-police. It's easier (more profitable) for Google/Bing to let other entities like this doing the questionable work. When people and organizations get upset by censorship they can always point their finger at such an entity with a sad face and then go a head to count their money.
"... who have recognized the significant risks associated with unfettered Internet access by youth, and have called upon the government and law enforcement to take aggressive action" sounds to me like "we can't trust the parents to watch their children's online activities." Which then would make it easier to put controls on adults' surfing as well. I thought republicans didn't want the government so deeply entrenched in our lives?
Well, other than that they're willing to ignore the extremists... but Trump supporters are willing to ignore all sorts of stuff.
The left likes to play "let's you and him fight." They demand Republicans turn on each other and denounce this person or that person because they uttered something not nice. In the meantime BLMers shoot cops and the Dems "denounce the violence," but then still say "Black Lives Matter" and Obama has BLM leaders to the White House.
Punching right doesn't do you any good. After Ted Cruz's backstabbing speech at the RNC, every liberal rag ran stories about how "principled" that was. Great. But, ah, anybody from HuffPo ever going to vote for Ted Cruz?
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
From the 1930's to about the 1950's or so, most normal people idolized the cream of the intelligentsia, Albert Einstein was quite the celebrity in his day, even among common folk. Werner Von Braun and the Rocket Kids of the 1950's-1960's were probably the last of the scientists regular people looked up to.
I used to have some respect for Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson but since the politicalization of science, they both have gotten too political and are nearly as bad as the anti-fact people they rail against.
Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
"significant risks associated with unfettered Internet access by youth"
That's not a thing that exists, unless as a parent you're doing a really shitty job of being a parent.
The press release says it all. "Unfettered internet access" leads to people getting all sorts of confusing information, alternate viewpoints, non-religiously-restricted perspectives, and all of the ills of modern society. People are just too free, dammit. We need to restrict their thinking, and the first way to do it is to restrict their access to information. Porn is just a straw man; most people would agree that child porn is bad (I agree too), which is why it is already mentioned in law, but we do not place restrictions and surveillance on all magazine publication to prevent printed child porn, and we should not place such censorship power in anyone's hands.
The problem with garnering votes by continually scaring angry grandpas is that eventually they all die off.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
There still are scientist superstars - Stephen Hawking and Jane Goodall are pretty much household names. You could throw in a few that AFAIK don't have any major discoveries but are well known celebrity scientists like Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson, as well.
That said, I think what you mean is that people worship celebrity more than intellect these days, and that I completely agree with. Reagan was an early example of that, and turned out to be a decent leader, despite some flawed principles (trickle down economics being the one I like to skewer). I certainly wouldn't ever have picked Reagan for my Quiz Bowl team, though.
This is the same guy that half-groped his daughter onstage, right?
Illegal isn't a race.
I wish that were true. I know several people that will vote for Trump because they perceive "Shillary" or "Crooked Hillary" as the worse option. They say with Trump you may get a misogynist bigot, but at least you know what you're getting. With Shillary you get a two-faced weasel that will stab you in the back the second she gets elected.
And yes, that is what they honestly believe. Telling them Trump is the biggest lying weasel in politics won't sway their opinion (going by Polifact). In any case, I won't vote for either of them. Two sides of the same coin bought and owned by Corporate America(TM). Whatever it takes to keep the oligarchy strong, right?
There's your problem, right there. Even in the best of times, the Republicans tend to be foaming-at-the-mouth advocates for pushing superstition on everyone in sight, while pressing for every fertilized egg to be carried to term at the very same time they demand that no person deserves any support from the rest of us, medically, income-wise, or educationally. While pushing for military action on every front they can think of and crushing liberties with great relish.
They're crazy, definitely, but they're also selfish, nasty, and brutish. There are plenty of Americans who fall into that category. The support for Trump underlines this fact profoundly. But "plenty" seems to max out at about 30% or so; the rest are independents or Democrats or third party. The Democrats have their own problems, but usually not the same ones, with the exception of liberty-crushing. That's completely bi-partisan.
Onto this, the system layers corporate control of congress, and we also have the perfect storm of pre-loading and rigging primary elections by the parties themselves.
Welcome to the crazy oligarchy. It's bread and circuses all the way down.
I don't know where you are getting this, but according to Articles_of_Confederation#The_United_States_of_America_under_the_Articles there was essentially no president of the type under the Constitution, so your statement makes no sense. That wasn't supposed to be the role of the person who presided over congressional goings ons.
Can't say for one way or another how things would have turned out, but would it really have been all that bad if the United States, the contemporary Italian peninsula or the remains of the so-called Holy Roman Empire had stayed the way they were
You can call virtually any group the establishment and not be completely wrong. There is the world ruling class and that is the establishment of which I speak.
If you believe your job is at risk (and it is, right now from mild automation and imported labor and exported roles, soon to be joined in spades by various machine learning technologies which will enable much more comprehensive automation), it's considerably more in your self-interest to vote Democrat in every election for a federal seat, because it's the Democrats that are generally in favor of social safety nets, and who will put SCOTUS judges in who will back those ideas the most effectively.
Voting Republican because you think you might lose your job... that's truly shooting yourself in the foot.
What you want -- if you want to eat and have a roof over your head -- is Democrats in strong majority across both houses of congress, the presidency, and the courts.
Of course, to understand this, one has to use reason and facts. Looking at the Trump demographic, that's not exactly a standout characteristic.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Except they're constantly being replaced by new angry grandpas. Now get off my lawn!
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
And America is too distracted by stupid shit like American Idol (or what ever the popular "reality show" is), D vs. R, Apple vs Android, Apple vs. Microsoft, Sports team vs. Sports team, etc to deal with the REAL problem
Because everyone saw your wife's tits, you don't want anyone else to enjoy tits?
I think that in the latter half of the 60s and part of the 70s, most people did look up to the astronauts, but hardly the scientists.
Fortunately, some did.
Yes, Hillary Clinton would never attempt to curb free speech in a pathetic political attention grab. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Entertainment_Protection_Act
I think if someone says "they're trying to ban child porn" you can pretty much ignore the rest of what they have to say. Listen to someone who isn't wasting your time instead.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
But what about the rest of us?
And those people you know are just as right as you are, maybe more so, maybe less. You don't know. Their opinion is perfectly valid, just as much as yours.
If they tried to claim Trump was a great, ethical person, then sure you could claim they're obviously wrong, but they're not claiming that at all. They're acknowledging that he's terrible, but in their judgment Hillary is even more terrible, and you have no way of proving that. (No, Politifact is not an unbiased source or a way of proving who's a bigger liar.)
Not voting for either of them is certainly a valid approach, and the one I intend to take too, but given that due to Duverger's Law either Hillary or Trump is almost certain to win, you can't fault those people for wanting to prevent who they see as the worse candidate from winning.
Personally, I'm leaning towards preferring Trump, for many reasons all related to Hillary (1. she wants to start more wars, 2. I don't want to reward her and the DNC for their obvious rigging, 3. she's a criminal who can't be prosecuted for the email fiasco because she's too powerful), but he's so awful I don't think I can bring myself to vote for him either, so I plan to vote for Stein. I'm still not convinced that Trump is actually genuine here; it still looks possible that he's only there to destroy the RNC from within and give Hillary the election.
Take away the racists and Trump would probably be polling lower than Johnson and Stein.
This IS NOT for PORN.
Only for CHILD PORN.
MAYBE you should actually read the pledge rather than reading some liberal bias one-sided article.
I woudl consider voting for a bulldog in lipstick that had an Oompa Loompa with tiny hands as as running mate, or vice versa.
If Hillary and Trump were on the same ticket, you'd get your wish.
They also don't really do science like Werner Von Braun, Einstein, etc. They just advocate for it.
Yeah, and police officers shoot black people without justification and some elected officials still have something to do with police. Got any evidence that #BlackLivesMatter has any policy to shoot police, or are you saying that any movement with a few despicable fanatics going along with its main thrust is bad?
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
If you think that then you're really not paying attention to the anti-fact people.
I suppose I might as well weigh in. Yes, there's a stark difference between Trump and Clinton. Trump is a reality TV star who's playing a bigoted authoritarian demagogue on this summer's smash reality TV hit, The Candidate. Clinton, on the order hand, is a lizard person.
Now, I've been very, very tempted to break my own rule about never voting for lizard people. If there were some kind of assurance that could be had that she won't immediately do an about-face on TPP/TTIP/TISA 3 seconds after she's sworn in, I could make an exception. The D team platform is very appealing this time around. It seems like a major party is finally endorsing credible direction to end the drug war.
So we'll see.
It's just a sad, sad joke that the only ticket with experience running a government, Johnson/Weld, probably doesn't have a chance in hell. I'll probably still vote for them. The R team platform has me so frustrated this time around, I intend to at least show up and vote D team in pretty much every other race. I truly don't understand how anybody could be delusional enough to be a Log Cabin Republican at this point.
No, I'm saying the left has a double standard when it comes to guilt by association.
We don't have a state-run media we have a media-run state.
one of these things is not like the others:
online pornography, child pornography, child stalking and sexual predation
This story generated a large number of comments in a relatively short amount of time. Must be one of those pertinent topics...
First I am going to point out that EiE is mainly about protecting children. Second, if porn is so good for us why aren't we healthier with better relationships. See this story for more.
What happens if you take away pron? More unwanted babies, broken relationships, rapes.
Couples don't care as much about porn as they do actual acts of infidelity. Women watch a lot of porn as well. Women are actually the ones on cam to a larger extent too.
So would this ever happen? no. But the fact Donald Trump would say this? He would take this position? means he is diverting your attention by threat of taking something away you care about.
What is he distracting from? The sham election. Show the electoral college reps 2016 or die for not showing them.
And who will be paying for these, already existing, tools and filters? Only a matter of time before you're forced to off shore your impregnated tissue counts.
You hate the left, and anyone you hate has a double standard. Some lefties use AT&T! Others denounce capitalistic monopolies! Double standards Everywhere!!!
Your inability to comprehend the issues doesn't make them contradictory. Trump explicitly joked about assaulting protesters. Protesters were later assaulted. How is it a double standard to consider that somehow linked to Trump himself? BLM has said "stop the violence". All of it, against police, and by police. So when a mentally ill vet with no links to BLM kills some cops and talks about BLM, it's BLM that made him do it? Thankfully, the police killed him before he could be interrogated or tried, so we'll never know what he was thinking. White extremist (after all, that's the label given to minorities) shoots people from a bell tower at University of Texas and he's diagnosed as a good vet with a brain tumor, and essentially forgiven by the country. Where's the level of interest in the Black extremists motives? If you are looking for a double standard, you are looking in the wrong place.
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We already have Trump Tower, Trump Steaks, Trump Apparel, Trump Fragrance... Now we'll also have Trump Porn! No thanks!
The day Microsoft creates a product that doesn't suck, it will be known as the Microsoft Vaccuum Cleaner!
That is because the message they are sending doesn't play well with your world outlook. If they preached your conservative platform, you'd be here singing their praises. Don't act like you're some special hero for standing up for your beliefs. You'd use a science book like you do the bible to smack people upside the head if it disproved evolution and supported jesus riding dinosaurs.
Yeah, this looks like a classic example of the motte and bailey doctrine. They support, but cannot defend, the claim that all porn is bad and needs to be banned. When people assail this position, they retreat to their metaphorical motte (a well-defended tower where you could hole up and resist attackers) claim of "but we're trying to stop child porn! Child porn is terrible and you're evil if you don't want to stop it!" Of course, as soon as people agree that stopping child porn is good and righteous, they head back out to their metaphorical bailey (the valuable but indefensible land around a motte) and start campaigning against porn in general again.
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
READ the pledge document before stupidly ranting.
This is a typical election cycle political trap. A group produces an anti-kiddie-porn and block-kids-from-seeing-porn pledge, offers it to a candidate, and if the candidate does not sign, then the groupd and the candidate's opponents scream that the candidate is FOR kiddie porn etc.
Personally, I hate this pledge crap. There are many groups on all parts of the American political spectrum with these things (because they have worked well as traps in the past). Trump and/or his people clearly did read the document, noted that all he was pledging to do was uphold current laws on this stuff and appoint some unspecified number of bureaucrats to study this stuff, so signing it was a "no-brainer" alternative to a stupid political trap. The worst part is the mention of " public-private partnerships with Corporate America" as far as I'm concerned - that concept is common political talk these days in most political circles, and it's the gateway drug to fascism, but it is NOT Trump's words and in this context is no worse than every place Hillary has used it.
This pledge is irrelevent other than all the headlines we will NOT see screeching about Trump supporting kiddie porn. Pledge or no pledge, Trump signature, Clinton signature, no signature --- it has no actual effect. Remember: This is one of hundreds of pledges both candidates will sign, and it's less-high-profile than public commitments like the ones Obama and Clinton both much more publicly made in 2008 opposing gay marriage.
No, I won't shut the fuck up. I'm so Bernie that I'm still voting for him regardless of if he's running or not. I don't have to choose between the lesser of two evils so you can fuck right off, republitard.
they're trying to restrict access to all the rest to those old enough to view it
Who determines who is "old enough"?
Where is the proof that access to porn is harmful to those who are "too young"?
Why should the government be involved in this aspect of parenting?
If an effective means of restricting X's access to Y on the internet becomes available, what makes you think it wouldn't be used for values of X other than "young people" and values of Y other than "porn"?
Worst of all is the intellectual dishonesty of this group. They disapprove of regular, consenting-adult porn, and are trying to get the government to enforce their mores by conflating it with the already illegal sexual exploitation of children.
No thanks. I'm not interested in dying in a nuclear hellfire, which is exactly what she'll bring the world to given a chance.
THIS. Neither of those phony assholes is anything that remotely resembles a scientist.
You can't be an "establishment" candidate and have the establishment pulling out all the stops in a continued series of attempts to derail you.
Yeah, jackass, because that's how statistics work. We're betting here. The data supports the claim and because it does, I'm going to bet unless he wins florida and ohio, he is not going to win the presidency. All your post amounts to is "calling my bluff" and come november we'll show our cards and see who was right. Also, sexconker could be the dumbest fucking name I've heard on here.
By watching even more.
Thought you wrote "cream of genitalia" at first.
Most voters are ingrained. They'll make their cross in the accustomed place regardless of whether their party nominated Lucifer. Then we have the swing voters and the non-voters. The non-voters are the larger faction, and white and other trash constitutes a non-trivial ratio of them. So you need to fling enough poo at Hillary to make most of the non-voter groups and perhaps a number of swing voters stay at home, but you have the chance of getting the interest of the white trash and the racists which tend to stay off. And the Jim Crow laws are more directed against black workers than white non-workers.
One does see the poo-flingers. Take a look at the comment sections in Fox News on political articles (the articles are a muddled mess to start with already but that's a different issue). That's sobering, to say the least. Sure, it's Fox News, but the comment section is a world of its own where calling the acting president "the monkey" is par for the course. There is not even a controversy about that: all the comments are like that, and obviously Fox News represents enough of the U.S. to make a living. And those commenters and Fox watchers won't see themselves adequately represented by most decent people (including most presidential candidates in history). They are prime non-voter material unless someone like Trump is up for vote.
Could it be that you don't like them because their political views don't match yours? Just say that.
FTFY
Actually the reasons for the structure of today's higher education are much more complex than that, and actually boil more down to "so nobody will be intelligent"
Trump's opponent Hillary Clinton refused to sign the pledge,
Looks like it's an organization that wants to do something instead of being a perpetual victim. Therefore, the SJW candidate won't sign out of fear of offending her vocal minority.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Did they change, or did the environment change around them?
Scientists have always made statements with political implications. And.... we used to give their statements great weight. Now half the country just goes "stupid liberal scientist, he is totally involved in the global warming conspiracy".
Seems like the country has gone to crap in terms of science reporting and understanding, not that scientists are all of a sudden more political.