That might get into ISP restrictions on how you use your account. Some, especially the Cable Broadband providers, specify that you cannot use your account for business. You have to get special "business accounts" with usually higher fees. [ Reply to This ]
The "business accounts" are usually a joke, though. They give people the same bandwidth, and they still restrict the transfers the same amount. IN some cases people have reported getting worse service when swicthing to business class. This is not always the case for DSL (though some of the most egregious offenders appear here) but seems to be 100% true for cable.
Due process only applies to government actions (when it's not overlooked altogether). I'm not saying it's moral, but your ISP has every right to terminate your service for any reason they want. It's in the contract, and as long as they pro-rate your monthly fee, there isn't much you can do about it.
Actually, no. Since the user is considered innocent until proven guilty by the government, the ISP has no proof of criminal activity and is therefore liable for libel. They can terminate the contract if they like, but to publicize the termination and claim it is for criminal reasons is a very bad idea. Why do you think news agencies always refer to "the suspect" who "allegedly" committed crimes? Heck, I recall some pretty extreme examples of that, something like the guy who was filmed shooting his lawyer being described as "here we see the suspect allegedly shooting his lawyer..."
I work for an ISP and we had to change our "unlimited" dial-up option to "unmetered" to stop people from being online 24x7 all month.
We don't bandwidth limit our DSL customers, but with the cost of bandwidth being what it is it may be something we have to look at. Currently less than 1% of our customers use 75% of our bandwidth.
It's NOT in our best interest for "Mr. Bandwidth Hog" to pay the same amount as "Grandma Smith" who only checks her email once a day.
Look, I respect your right to run your business as you please, and I feel your pain w/r/t internet fees, but damnit there are some of us who DO expect to be able to have our computers connected to the net 24/7 and we DO want to download mass quantities of software/pr0n/whatever. When an ISP offers broadband specifically advertising these as the benefits that is what we expect. IT is bullshit to sell a service and then get mad when people actually use it!
That said, perhaps we should make a geek ISP that fixes these problems, perhaps by charging more and then letting people do what they actually want to do with the access. Oh wait.. can't be a broadband ISP unless you are part of the trust. Oh wait, the ISPs already claim to offer this and proudly charge you more then start threatening you when you try and use the service. Grrrrr....
You are an idiot. First of all Emacs is not an operating system (all joking aside). Secondly, he was talking about editting ID3 tags, not playing MP3s. You could've clearly seen this if you were capable of reading. Third, MS does not have any way of playing back MP3s "builtin to the OS".
first of all, that is GNU/emacs. Second of all, did it ever occur to anyone that a text editor should be used for editing text. It should not give you html tags. it should not color your code. it should just display what you wrote. next thing you know we'll be seeing GNU/Clippy. "it looks like you're designing a web page. it looks like you're designing a web page." wtf. text editors should not be made up of over a million lines of code. what happened to the good old days of vi. screw RMS, he should have stuck with compilers.
The GNU/Clippy? Well, it is not afaik available for emacs, but it is for vi, vim, and xmms... It is GPL so you can always port it if you wish...:)
Doh. I sould have read it more carefully. It may not be Free, but it's still freely distributable. (At least, I think it is.)
Not really. It would be if you were prepared to provide the source to any third party for the next several years because you neglected to provide source for GPL code, but otherwise no.
I have not gone over the free-as-in-beer software included in this CD, but much of what is "free" in windows is really shareware which is crippled or nagging. Some is freeware, but both freeware and shareware regularly have restrictions on distribution. Just because the manufacturer did not charge you to receive the software does not mean they have given you rights to distribution. This is why the GPL is important.
This is also one reason why a default Windows install does not and cannot include much of teh useful software one must install on windows to make it a usable OS. There are free beer tools but they must be downloaded individually because manufacturers demand to control distribution. Then of course there is shareware. XP is the first Windows OS to know what to do with zip files without the necessity of downloading and paying for (or stealing by cracking) WinZip, for instance. Then there is Acrobat, shockwave, realplayer, etc etc.
You don't understand, the tools aren't hidden, you can still go into User Manager or GPE. The user group just isn't there. The steps descibed in the grandparent post is a group policy *hack*. XP Home was never intended to have a Power-User equivilent account. Nor can it log on to a domain (which a Win9x/ME PC *can* do). If it isn't greed, then how do you explain taking out a feature that has been in every other version of Windows since Win 3.11?
BTW What are some of the hidden Win2K admin tools you speak of? I'm not trying to troll, I really would like to know.
Jaysyn
There are a number of useful management consoles which do not appear in any of the Administrative Tools management consoles. You have to call them by filename. A number of tools are command line only but do not have much in the way of documentation because Microsoft tries to encourage people to only use the GUI. Unfortunately both the GUI and the command line are crippled such that one must switch between the two frequently to get anything useful done, and there are many things you just can't do on Windows no matter what. For instance, it has always been impossible in Windows to display the rights and privileges assigned to a user or group. You have to look at each right and privilege and then see what users or groups have that individual right or privilege. You can only do this in the GUI, and IIRC in Win2k this was much harder to find than in NT.
I wish I could help you by giving you some of the hidden panels, but others have noted some of them in this thread. I don't know them by heart and these are actually examples of why Windows is more difficult to administer and maintain than Linux and less intuitive.
It was also widely reported that this report was bullshit and that is why Tony Blair is in trouble. British Intelligence and those who had reason to actually know what was going on were thinking it would take Saddam months to get things together for a WMD attack. He was being seriously hampered by the no-fly zone, sanctions and inspectors. The gas atack on the Kurds occurred back in the 80's when we liked Saddam and were selling him WMD. After the first Gulf War no incidents of usage of WMD nor evidence of continuing WMD programs were ever found.
Yeah, well that is the point of XP Home. It's networking & security abilities have been puposefully crippled so they have a reason to charge more for XP Corp.
Fucking Leeches.
Jaysyn
Erm, the only XP I have ever used is XP corp, and it has the same problems. Win2k has hidden administrative tools as well. Win98 had hidden tools, some of which had hidden installers. It's a bloody mess. Don't get me started on the need to pay MS for the ResKit and buy the full suite of Winternals software just to almost be able to administer the system properly.:P
Depends on what flights, after the 2001 incident, most airlines replaced everything with plastic knives and plastic forks -- even though you could still probably kill someone with a plastic fork...
They brought them back after a lot of people bitched about it, but it's a moot point now. A lot of airlines are phasing out inflight meals now, so killing someone with a dull butter knife isn't even an option anymore. Ah, the good old days...
Hell, even before 9/11 it had gotten near impossible to get an inflight meal anymore. The airlines sux0r.
For administrative tasks, try Computer Management. %windir%\System32\runas.exe/user:administrator "mmc %windir%\system32\compmgmt.msc"
This has most of the administrative tools in the one snap-in.
For other control panel items, I use a roundabout solution with %windir%\System32\runas.exe/user:administrator "c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe file:///c:/" which essentially gives me Windows Explorer, from where I can navigate to Control Panel.
That is very useful information. I was about to say that you can't get RunAs to run the explorer, but I see I did it wrong. I was trying to start Windows Explorer instead of IE. The consoles are far less intuitive, though. It is too bad they did not make it easier to get to them. Still this is very important info for the times I am stuck on a Windows machine.
"Well, they will get pulled over by the kind police officers for failing to pay their toll:)."
Do they have enough doses of the lethal injection drugs on hand for all the toll violators? This is Texas after all...
Well, if they run out, they can just use bullets. If they run out of those, they can pull into the local WalMart, which has an infinite supply on hand for just such occasions, and is open 24/7. Yee-Haw!:)
Actually... I think one has to be on an administrator account to run Diablo II for some reason. (I have win2k, I assume this holds for WinXP)
DAOC has the same problem. I tried just giving full rights to the directory to a user, but it did not work. Nothing online says anything about running it as any other user than Administrator. This is the standard Windows answer for all permissions problems, despite Microsoft's claims to have robust granular permissions systems (just run it as administrator, logged in asd administrator!) To be fair, RunAs works for DAOC.
"I'm not sure if this is true in Windows XP Home, but in Pro Power Users can not edit the registry. So this makes installing almost every program (and spyware for that matter) impossible."
However, Runas works very well in XP and is no longer hidden. I think using XP like UNIX is probably the best policy. Have normal users that are just normal users and then have one administrator, the original one. If you need to do some administration or installation, use RunAs. Where RunAs does not work, use the Switch User facility.
Actually one annoyance in this equation for Win2k and XP is that many administrative control panels do not work with RunAs. They supposedly do if you know the path and filename of the control panel or administrative console. Unfortunately you can't just start one app and get to these things from there. Also even as administrator there are some consoles you cannot get to without knowing their exact path and filename, which is pretty annoying. But if you do you can use RunAs.
I'm not sure if this is true in Windows XP Home, but in Pro Power Users can not edit the registry. So this makes installing almost every program (and spyware for that matter) impossible.
However, Runas works very well in XP and is no longer hidden. I think using XP like UNIX is probably the best policy. Have normal users that are just normal users and then have one administrator, the original one. If you need to do some administration or installation, use RunAs. Where RunAs does not work, use the Switch User facility.
And make one. Call it whatever. Then... Start... Run... gpedit.msc Computer Configuration -> Windows Settings -> Security Settings -> Local Policies -> User Rights Assignment And assign the rights you want to the group. Try: (Access computer, Allow Logon, Bypass Traverse, Change Time, Profile Processes, Remove from Dock, Shutdown)
Wow, and that was documented where exactly? I mean it is very intuitive! Quite more intuitive than vi/etc/passwd or even adduser for sure!
It's funny how Microsoft has increasingly hidden any useful administration tools you might want to have, even ones that are useful to home users...
EZ-Pass commissions have always operated under the promise that this would not be done. If it were ever to be enacted, you would see a lot of people dumping EZ-Pass, since many of the roadways in EZ-Pass areas have average traffic speeds over the speed limits, and the cost of even a small speeding ticket is ridiculous with the current insurance regulations and policies.
They also promised that what is being done in the article would not be done. Obviously they are full of crap. If you give people power they will always tend to abuse it.
Either that, or/. really has become totally overrun with MS paid astro-turfers (sometimes, that's my nagging suspicion!), which is skewing the stats!:P
Well given that most of the ads on slashdot are from Microsoft and every new product from Microsoft gets a glowing slobbering review...
But I do use Linux almost exclusively on the desktop at work and have been using it almost exclusively at home (I admin some NT boxes but mostly Solaris, so I can't say exclusively. I also run Solaris and the *BSDs at home).
There may be something peculiar with your setup. Slashdot has always rendered fine for me using all sorts of browsers on both Windows and Linux. As far as your statement about most Slashdot readers using IE on Windows, that is an assumption on your part, unless of course you have access to the server stats (which would be interesting to see!).
Well whatever I am doing wrong I am doing over and over again. I have installed Mozilla on Linux, OpenBSD, OSX, and Windows, and used several other browsers in those environments. I have used the provided mozilla, installed from tarred binaries, compiled from source, used the installers, and used spells. I have used nightlies and milestones/regular versions. In all cases the slashdot irregularities show up regularly which people have reported, including but not limited to overlapping text, blank pages (usually after I submit a post), and more.
In fact I have another odd problem with Mozilla that only seems to happen in Linux, which I was not sure was Mozilla, XFree86, Flash, or FVWM. It is that when I visit certain pages there is this bleeding effect where little white boxes appear all over the place and take over the screen. I can get rid of them by dragging an unaffected window around the area, but Mozilla on the affected page will bring this back. It happens pretty often with Slashdot, mainly on the apple.slashdot.org pages (or whatever the apple section is) and with certain ads, which is why I blamed flash, but I have seen it on other pages too. That problem happened on multiple computers with multiple distributions, as did the others, though the other problems happened on every OS.
Other people have reported both the slashdot problems and this last one.
"You're telling me, buddy. Unfortunately Microsoft is not aware that this occurs at all, ever. This is a good example of how unaware they are in general. Meanwhile..."
Meanwhile, Mozilla FireBird.7 is vulnerable as well.
No it's not. None of the exploits worked for me in Firebird or Mozilla. I saw the correct URL. Try again.
"Again the only responsible thing to do is to advocate Mozilla for financial transactions."
Have you tried this exploit in Mozilla? It isn't fixed at all if the domain name that shows up in the beginning of the URL != the domain name you land on.
Yes I tried it in Mozilla. It was not exploitable. I saw the @ and the real domain just fine.
Man, some of you Mozilla zealots are so interested in giving Microsoft a black eye that you're stupid to the fact that Mozilla has problems too. It's a big race to prove it's not a problem. "Oh yeah, it still shows the domain it landed on later in the address, so it's not a problem!"
In IE you would not see the real address at all. That is the problem. I agree that spoofing is in itself a problem, but that is a legal rather than a technical problem.
But the urls use / as well. What are you talking about?
You are either trying to make a bad joke, or an idiot. Please note that the URL does not have any '\' in it, hence why saying wwwdotbackslashdotdotorg isnt as funny as saying wwwdotslashdotdotorg.
Erm, I guess you did not know that / is forward slash and \ is backslash. And the url is http://slashdot.org. So there is no reason to say "backslash" because the URL does not have one, it has a slash. Why then are you suggesting it should be a backslash?
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That might get into ISP restrictions on how you use your account. Some, especially the Cable Broadband providers, specify that you cannot use your account for business. You have to get special "business accounts" with usually higher fees.
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The "business accounts" are usually a joke, though. They give people the same bandwidth, and they still restrict the transfers the same amount. IN some cases people have reported getting worse service when swicthing to business class. This is not always the case for DSL (though some of the most egregious offenders appear here) but seems to be 100% true for cable.
Due process only applies to government actions (when it's not overlooked altogether). I'm not saying it's moral, but your ISP has every right to terminate your service for any reason they want. It's in the contract, and as long as they pro-rate your monthly fee, there isn't much you can do about it.
Actually, no. Since the user is considered innocent until proven guilty by the government, the ISP has no proof of criminal activity and is therefore liable for libel. They can terminate the contract if they like, but to publicize the termination and claim it is for criminal reasons is a very bad idea. Why do you think news agencies always refer to "the suspect" who "allegedly" committed crimes? Heck, I recall some pretty extreme examples of that, something like the guy who was filmed shooting his lawyer being described as "here we see the suspect allegedly shooting his lawyer..."
IANAL YMMV Caveat Emptor.
I work for an ISP and we had to change our "unlimited" dial-up option to "unmetered" to stop people from being online 24x7 all month.
We don't bandwidth limit our DSL customers, but with the cost of bandwidth being what it is it may be something we have to look at. Currently less than 1% of our customers use 75% of our bandwidth.
It's NOT in our best interest for "Mr. Bandwidth Hog" to pay the same amount as "Grandma Smith" who only checks her email once a day.
Look, I respect your right to run your business as you please, and I feel your pain w/r/t internet fees, but damnit there are some of us who DO expect to be able to have our computers connected to the net 24/7 and we DO want to download mass quantities of software/pr0n/whatever. When an ISP offers broadband specifically advertising these as the benefits that is what we expect. IT is bullshit to sell a service and then get mad when people actually use it!
That said, perhaps we should make a geek ISP that fixes these problems, perhaps by charging more and then letting people do what they actually want to do with the access. Oh wait.. can't be a broadband ISP unless you are part of the trust. Oh wait, the ISPs already claim to offer this and proudly charge you more then start threatening you when you try and use the service. Grrrrr....
The original post was a joke about how good SpeakEasy's service is. What is the point to your comment?
That AOL's service is a joke?
You are an idiot. First of all Emacs is not an operating system (all joking aside). Secondly, he was talking about editting ID3 tags, not playing MP3s. You could've clearly seen this if you were capable of reading. Third, MS does not have any way of playing back MP3s "builtin to the OS".
Sure they do! It is called Windows Media Player.
first of all, that is GNU/emacs. Second of all, did it ever occur to anyone that a text editor should be used for editing text. It should not give you html tags. it should not color your code. it should just display what you wrote. next thing you know we'll be seeing GNU/Clippy. "it looks like you're designing a web page. it looks like you're designing a web page." wtf. text editors should not be made up of over a million lines of code. what happened to the good old days of vi. screw RMS, he should have stuck with compilers.
The GNU/Clippy? Well, it is not afaik available for emacs, but it is for vi, vim, and xmms... It is GPL so you can always port it if you wish... :)
Doh. I sould have read it more carefully. It may not be Free, but it's still freely distributable. (At least, I think it is.)
Not really. It would be if you were prepared to provide the source to any third party for the next several years because you neglected to provide source for GPL code, but otherwise no.
I have not gone over the free-as-in-beer software included in this CD, but much of what is "free" in windows is really shareware which is crippled or nagging. Some is freeware, but both freeware and shareware regularly have restrictions on distribution. Just because the manufacturer did not charge you to receive the software does not mean they have given you rights to distribution. This is why the GPL is important.
This is also one reason why a default Windows install does not and cannot include much of teh useful software one must install on windows to make it a usable OS. There are free beer tools but they must be downloaded individually because manufacturers demand to control distribution. Then of course there is shareware. XP is the first Windows OS to know what to do with zip files without the necessity of downloading and paying for (or stealing by cracking) WinZip, for instance. Then there is Acrobat, shockwave, realplayer, etc etc.
You don't understand, the tools aren't hidden, you can still go into User Manager or GPE. The user group just isn't there. The steps descibed in the grandparent post is a group policy *hack*. XP Home was never intended to have a Power-User equivilent account. Nor can it log on to a domain (which a Win9x/ME PC *can* do). If it isn't greed, then how do you explain taking out a feature that has been in every other version of Windows since Win 3.11?
BTW What are some of the hidden Win2K admin tools you speak of? I'm not trying to troll, I really would like to know.
Jaysyn
There are a number of useful management consoles which do not appear in any of the Administrative Tools management consoles. You have to call them by filename. A number of tools are command line only but do not have much in the way of documentation because Microsoft tries to encourage people to only use the GUI. Unfortunately both the GUI and the command line are crippled such that one must switch between the two frequently to get anything useful done, and there are many things you just can't do on Windows no matter what. For instance, it has always been impossible in Windows to display the rights and privileges assigned to a user or group. You have to look at each right and privilege and then see what users or groups have that individual right or privilege. You can only do this in the GUI, and IIRC in Win2k this was much harder to find than in NT.
I wish I could help you by giving you some of the hidden panels, but others have noted some of them in this thread. I don't know them by heart and these are actually examples of why Windows is more difficult to administer and maintain than Linux and less intuitive.
It was also widely reported that this report was bullshit and that is why Tony Blair is in trouble. British Intelligence and those who had reason to actually know what was going on were thinking it would take Saddam months to get things together for a WMD attack. He was being seriously hampered by the no-fly zone, sanctions and inspectors. The gas atack on the Kurds occurred back in the 80's when we liked Saddam and were selling him WMD. After the first Gulf War no incidents of usage of WMD nor evidence of continuing WMD programs were ever found.
Yeah, well that is the point of XP Home. It's networking & security abilities have been puposefully crippled so they have a reason to charge more for XP Corp.
Fucking Leeches.
Jaysyn
Erm, the only XP I have ever used is XP corp, and it has the same problems. Win2k has hidden administrative tools as well. Win98 had hidden tools, some of which had hidden installers. It's a bloody mess. Don't get me started on the need to pay MS for the ResKit and buy the full suite of Winternals software just to almost be able to administer the system properly. :P
Depends on what flights, after the 2001 incident, most airlines replaced everything with plastic knives and plastic forks -- even though you could still probably kill someone with a plastic fork...
They brought them back after a lot of people bitched about it, but it's a moot point now. A lot of airlines are phasing out inflight meals now, so killing someone with a dull butter knife isn't even an option anymore. Ah, the good old days...
Hell, even before 9/11 it had gotten near impossible to get an inflight meal anymore. The airlines sux0r.
Myth: Installation and configuration aren't as important as making the source available.
Reality: If it takes too much work just to get the software working, many people will silently quit.
No, they will quit and then bitch about it on slashdot. :)> Oh the perils!
For administrative tasks, try Computer Management. %windir%\System32\runas.exe /user:administrator "mmc %windir%\system32\compmgmt.msc"
This has most of the administrative tools in the one snap-in.
For other control panel items, I use a roundabout solution with /user:administrator "c:\program files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe file:///c:/"
%windir%\System32\runas.exe
which essentially gives me Windows Explorer, from where I can navigate to Control Panel.
That is very useful information. I was about to say that you can't get RunAs to run the explorer, but I see I did it wrong. I was trying to start Windows Explorer instead of IE. The consoles are far less intuitive, though. It is too bad they did not make it easier to get to them. Still this is very important info for the times I am stuck on a Windows machine.
" Wine is a generic word, Lindows is not."
window is a generic word. windows is the plural of a generic word. what's the difference? should microsoft be able to copyright such a word?
It's a trademark, not a copyright. So far the courts have upheld this mark.
"Well, they will get pulled over by the kind police officers for failing to pay their toll :)."
Do they have enough doses of the lethal injection drugs on hand for all the toll violators? This is Texas after all...
Well, if they run out, they can just use bullets. If they run out of those, they can pull into the local WalMart, which has an infinite supply on hand for just such occasions, and is open 24/7. Yee-Haw! :)
Actually... I think one has to be on an administrator account to run Diablo II for some reason. (I have win2k, I assume this holds for WinXP)
DAOC has the same problem. I tried just giving full rights to the directory to a user, but it did not work. Nothing online says anything about running it as any other user than Administrator. This is the standard Windows answer for all permissions problems, despite Microsoft's claims to have robust granular permissions systems (just run it as administrator, logged in asd administrator!) To be fair, RunAs works for DAOC.
"I'm not sure if this is true in Windows XP Home, but in Pro Power Users can not edit the registry. So this makes installing almost every program (and spyware for that matter) impossible."
However, Runas works very well in XP and is no longer hidden. I think using XP like UNIX is probably the best policy. Have normal users that are just normal users and then have one administrator, the original one. If you need to do some administration or installation, use RunAs. Where RunAs does not work, use the Switch User facility.
Actually one annoyance in this equation for Win2k and XP is that many administrative control panels do not work with RunAs. They supposedly do if you know the path and filename of the control panel or administrative console. Unfortunately you can't just start one app and get to these things from there. Also even as administrator there are some consoles you cannot get to without knowing their exact path and filename, which is pretty annoying. But if you do you can use RunAs.
I'm not sure if this is true in Windows XP Home, but in Pro Power Users can not edit the registry. So this makes installing almost every program (and spyware for that matter) impossible.
However, Runas works very well in XP and is no longer hidden. I think using XP like UNIX is probably the best policy. Have normal users that are just normal users and then have one administrator, the original one. If you need to do some administration or installation, use RunAs. Where RunAs does not work, use the Switch User facility.
And make one. Call it whatever.
Then... Start... Run... gpedit.msc
Computer Configuration -> Windows Settings -> Security Settings -> Local Policies -> User Rights Assignment
And assign the rights you want to the group.
Try:
(Access computer, Allow Logon, Bypass Traverse, Change Time, Profile Processes, Remove from Dock, Shutdown)
Wow, and that was documented where exactly? I mean it is very intuitive! Quite more intuitive than vi /etc/passwd or even adduser for sure!
It's funny how Microsoft has increasingly hidden any useful administration tools you might want to have, even ones that are useful to home users...
I assume they'll be giving free EZ Tag's out? How do they expect people from out of state to use the road?
Well, they will get pulled over by the kind police officers for failing to pay their toll :).
EZ-Pass commissions have always operated under the promise that this would not be done. If it were ever to be enacted, you would see a lot of people dumping EZ-Pass, since many of the roadways in EZ-Pass areas have average traffic speeds over the speed limits, and the cost of even a small speeding ticket is ridiculous with the current insurance regulations and policies.
They also promised that what is being done in the article would not be done. Obviously they are full of crap. If you give people power they will always tend to abuse it.
Either that, or /. really has become totally overrun with MS paid astro-turfers (sometimes, that's my nagging suspicion!), which is skewing the stats! :P
Well given that most of the ads on slashdot are from Microsoft and every new product from Microsoft gets a glowing slobbering review...
But I do use Linux almost exclusively on the desktop at work and have been using it almost exclusively at home (I admin some NT boxes but mostly Solaris, so I can't say exclusively. I also run Solaris and the *BSDs at home).
There may be something peculiar with your setup. Slashdot has always rendered fine for me using all sorts of browsers on both Windows and Linux. As far as your statement about most Slashdot readers using IE on Windows, that is an assumption on your part, unless of course you have access to the server stats (which would be interesting to see!).
Well whatever I am doing wrong I am doing over and over again. I have installed Mozilla on Linux, OpenBSD, OSX, and Windows, and used several other browsers in those environments. I have used the provided mozilla, installed from tarred binaries, compiled from source, used the installers, and used spells. I have used nightlies and milestones/regular versions. In all cases the slashdot irregularities show up regularly which people have reported, including but not limited to overlapping text, blank pages (usually after I submit a post), and more.
In fact I have another odd problem with Mozilla that only seems to happen in Linux, which I was not sure was Mozilla, XFree86, Flash, or FVWM. It is that when I visit certain pages there is this bleeding effect where little white boxes appear all over the place and take over the screen. I can get rid of them by dragging an unaffected window around the area, but Mozilla on the affected page will bring this back. It happens pretty often with Slashdot, mainly on the apple.slashdot.org pages (or whatever the apple section is) and with certain ads, which is why I blamed flash, but I have seen it on other pages too. That problem happened on multiple computers with multiple distributions, as did the others, though the other problems happened on every OS.
Other people have reported both the slashdot problems and this last one.
"You're telling me, buddy. Unfortunately Microsoft is not aware that this occurs at all, ever. This is a good example of how unaware they are in general. Meanwhile..."
Meanwhile, Mozilla FireBird .7 is vulnerable as well.
No it's not. None of the exploits worked for me in Firebird or Mozilla. I saw the correct URL. Try again.
"Again the only responsible thing to do is to advocate Mozilla for financial transactions."
Have you tried this exploit in Mozilla? It isn't fixed at all if the domain name that shows up in the beginning of the URL != the domain name you land on.
Yes I tried it in Mozilla. It was not exploitable. I saw the @ and the real domain just fine.
Man, some of you Mozilla zealots are so interested in giving Microsoft a black eye that you're stupid to the fact that Mozilla has problems too. It's a big race to prove it's not a problem. "Oh yeah, it still shows the domain it landed on later in the address, so it's not a problem!"
In IE you would not see the real address at all. That is the problem. I agree that spoofing is in itself a problem, but that is a legal rather than a technical problem.
But the urls use / as well. What are you talking about?
You are either trying to make a bad joke, or an idiot. Please note that the URL does not have any '\' in it, hence why saying wwwdotbackslashdotdotorg isnt as funny as saying wwwdotslashdotdotorg.
Erm, I guess you did not know that / is forward slash and \ is backslash. And the url is http://slashdot.org. So there is no reason to say "backslash" because the URL does not have one, it has a slash. Why then are you suggesting it should be a backslash?