Yeah, and Apple is so proud of their lead in dying that they even incorporated the BSD userland for OSX so their customers could get twice the dying for the same price.
Apple, may you continue dying for the next hundred years.
"One wonders how the Taiwanese actually reconcile this cultural history with their desire to remain separate from China."
From the taiwanese point of view they are the legitimate government nad hte communists are the usurper so they probably also want a reunited China, but under their regime.
Actually, I was thinking that this story would make a good rebuttal for that ad. Just run a similar ad and at the end add a "The same evening" screen and show two guys wheeling out the mainframe much more easily than if they had had to get dozens of Wintel servers out.
Being in the UK and with only a personal Linux desktop it's quite unlikely that I will receive one anytime soon but I am just interested by the kind of liabilities it opens SCO to (mail fraud, RICOH,...) and what the response will be from companies they send their invoices to.
SCO says: "We are going to send invoices to Linux users any time now" "We are going to send invoices to Linux users any day now, and if they don't pay we will SUE them." "We are going to send invoices to Linux users this month, and if they don't pay we will SUE them... and we MEAN IT." "We are probably going to send invoices to Linux users before the end of this month and if they don't pay we will give them every opportunity to pay before we sue them."
Soon, with Apu's accent: "We are going to nicely send invoices to Linux users before the end of the year and if they don't pay... we will nicely send them invoices again."
Just wake me up when there is news that somebody actually received one of these invoices, no need to make ten stories about them sending them RSN each time they threaten to send them.
"If Linux is the New Windows, it makes me wonder what will be the New Linux... maybe some project that is barely out of gestation today?"
That's right! Just wait until I have completed my totally revolutionary OS in 10 years time and you will see it spanking that punk Linux. It's going to be completed any time now... as soon as I stop reading Slashdot and actually write some code for it.
I think you mean Asbestos vest, you are bashing KDE with its cute little fire-breathing dagon, not *BSD and its cute little pitchfork handling demon here.
Yes, but SCO claims that up to four-way SMP is not enterprise level so unless you have a 8-way or more toaster capable of toasting 8 slices or more at once then it is not enterprise class and shouldn't count.
I, for one, am happy with Symantec's decision and hope that many much more Windows software companies do the same. The more obnoxious they get the more likely people are to go and look for alternatives that actually allows them to do their job instead of going in their way.
This trend looks like the proprietary software industry trying to shoot itself in the foot to me, and I welcome them to try.
"What does this mean? Well, if you consider these links as votes (which they are... if you like a site, you link it from your website or blog), it means that no one likes MSN or MSNBC at all. "
No, no, no. It means the MSFT IS DYING. According to Google that is;).
The LKML discussion preceding the removal was originated by an even earlier/. comment according to one of the posts.
So my question is: Does SCO know of any common code between Unix and Linux beside the one found by the Linux community or are they relying on us to find some similar code and use it in their suit?
Now it would be funny if their "rocket scientists" are actually slashdotters.
1. The GPL says that if you are not able to satisfy all the provisions of the GPL because of a local law or a patent or any prior obligation then you may not redistribute the software (remember the GPL apply to redistribution, not use), so in effect you cannot license the code under the GPL if the GPL is held invalid in whole or in part.
2. The GPL gives you right not granted under copyright law so if part of the GPL is held invalid the more restrictive copyright law is what applies to the software and in that case SCO would still be infringing Linux's copyright by distributing it without a valid license to do so. Worse for them, the GPL violation which only concerns the Linux kernel so far (the only part they sell run-only licenses to) would then concern all GPL software they are redistributing, thus growing the number of potential lawsuits against them for copyright infringement. And I'm pretty sure that many people would be happy to sue them for copyright infringement because they did that.
"I have already had a call today from one bank that are anxious about their roadmap, and have started doing Intel compiler testruns, just in case...."
I'm now leaning towards letting the code in but not maintaining it so if somebody needs continued SCO support they can send patches. That way, if enough people care they can keep SCO support up to date and if not enough people care it will slowly bitrot until it is useless.
If enough people want continued SCO support but the community is unwilling to commit the resources to develop it there might be a business opportunity here for somebody willing to develop it.
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""In Soviet Russia," the Dewey Decimal System fits in the Goatse guy."
even outside Soviet Russia there are many things that fit in the Goatse guy.
Hey, don't forget us, we are still relevant!
Jack Valenti, head of the MPAA.
Yeah, and Apple is so proud of their lead in dying that they even incorporated the BSD userland for OSX so their customers could get twice the dying for the same price.
Apple, may you continue dying for the next hundred years.
"One wonders how the Taiwanese actually reconcile this cultural history with their desire to remain separate from China."
From the taiwanese point of view they are the legitimate government nad hte communists are the usurper so they probably also want a reunited China, but under their regime.
Actually, I was thinking that this story would make a good rebuttal for that ad. Just run a similar ad and at the end add a "The same evening" screen and show two guys wheeling out the mainframe much more easily than if they had had to get dozens of Wintel servers out.
"how about the 6 albums a week I encode.... no not lame CD's Those strange black plastic things..."
You mean Playstation CD's?
Thanks for the info.
Being in the UK and with only a personal Linux desktop it's quite unlikely that I will receive one anytime soon but I am just interested by the kind of liabilities it opens SCO to (mail fraud, RICOH,...) and what the response will be from companies they send their invoices to.
I didn't know that Darl had been employed by the RIAA?
When will they send their $50000 invoices?
SCO says:
"We are going to send invoices to Linux users any time now"
"We are going to send invoices to Linux users any day now, and if they don't pay we will SUE them."
"We are going to send invoices to Linux users this month, and if they don't pay we will SUE them... and we MEAN IT."
"We are probably going to send invoices to Linux users before the end of this month and if they don't pay we will give them every opportunity to pay before we sue them."
Soon, with Apu's accent:
"We are going to nicely send invoices to Linux users before the end of the year and if they don't pay... we will nicely send them invoices again."
Just wake me up when there is news that somebody actually received one of these invoices, no need to make ten stories about them sending them RSN each time they threaten to send them.
"If Linux is the New Windows, it makes me wonder what will be the New Linux... maybe some project that is barely out of gestation today?"
That's right! Just wait until I have completed my totally revolutionary OS in 10 years time and you will see it spanking that punk Linux. It's going to be completed any time now... as soon as I stop reading Slashdot and actually write some code for it.
"Uh oh, I better put on my pitchfork-proof-vest."
I think you mean Asbestos vest, you are bashing KDE with its cute little fire-breathing dagon, not *BSD and its cute little pitchfork handling demon here.
Seeing these dates the cynic in me is thinking:
Cause, I want you to meet consequences.
"As far as I can see, my laptop has height, width and depth. So it's 3D, right?"
;).
Just think of these poor 1inch think PowerBook owner that have so little 3D in their laptop.
Yet another way in which Apple is bleaguered
Yes, but SCO claims that up to four-way SMP is not enterprise level so unless you have a 8-way or more toaster capable of toasting 8 slices or more at once then it is not enterprise class and shouldn't count.
I, for one, am happy with Symantec's decision and hope that many much more Windows software companies do the same. The more obnoxious they get the more likely people are to go and look for alternatives that actually allows them to do their job instead of going in their way.
This trend looks like the proprietary software industry trying to shoot itself in the foot to me, and I welcome them to try.
Which is why they don't have a 64-bit Windows released yet, not enough bugs to overflow 2^63
If memory serves, most of my text books were written by faculty members somewhere
Well, d'uh! Of course they were written somewhere. The author wasn't going to step out of space and time just to write his book nowhere.
It seems to be working, when I checked it was:
ZONE-H TODAYS VERIFIED ATTACKS
20 single IP
1 mass defacements
Win 2000 (100.0)
Take THAT MS
"What does this mean? Well, if you consider these links as votes (which they are... if you like a site, you link it from your website or blog), it means that no one likes MSN or MSNBC at all. "
;).
No, no, no. It means the MSFT IS DYING. According to Google that is
I am wondering:
SCO displayed this code at SCOForum in august.
It was removed from the kernel in June.
The LKML discussion preceding the removal was originated by an even earlier
So my question is: Does SCO know of any common code between Unix and Linux beside the one found by the Linux community or are they relying on us to find some similar code and use it in their suit?
Now it would be funny if their "rocket scientists" are actually slashdotters.
Yeah, but a real geek is more likely to meet a real eva face to face than a real woman face to face. Thank god I am a fake geek.
Two things:
1. The GPL says that if you are not able to satisfy all the provisions of the GPL because of a local law or a patent or any prior obligation then you may not redistribute the software (remember the GPL apply to redistribution, not use), so in effect you cannot license the code under the GPL if the GPL is held invalid in whole or in part.
2. The GPL gives you right not granted under copyright law so if part of the GPL is held invalid the more restrictive copyright law is what applies to the software and in that case SCO would still be infringing Linux's copyright by distributing it without a valid license to do so. Worse for them, the GPL violation which only concerns the Linux kernel so far (the only part they sell run-only licenses to) would then concern all GPL software they are redistributing, thus growing the number of potential lawsuits against them for copyright infringement. And I'm pretty sure that many people would be happy to sue them for copyright infringement because they did that.
Neither, the Bra is the wrong size.
I use Linux20030811-srilumpa just to be on the safe side.
If you want the same, non claimed to be infringing kernel just download your favorite version of the kernel and change the version number.
"I have already had a call today from one bank that are anxious about their roadmap, and have started doing Intel compiler testruns, just in case...."
I'm now leaning towards letting the code in but not maintaining it so if somebody needs continued SCO support they can send patches. That way, if enough people care they can keep SCO support up to date and if not enough people care it will slowly bitrot until it is useless.
If enough people want continued SCO support but the community is unwilling to commit the resources to develop it there might be a business opportunity here for somebody willing to develop it.