I think you're running into the Slashdot zealotry.
They're real closed minded about anything that doesn't involve 'open source' or 'freedom'.
Kinda pathetic, isn't it? These are the same freaks that will utter "Microsoft is such a monopoly" and "Linux is a viable alternative for the desktop" in the same breath. Sheesh.
*shrug* not releasing linux drivers for next generation devices?
If I was linksys, and was forced to open source for something I didn't want to, I'd be jumping on the 'Microsoft only' bandwagon so fast that 'breakneck' would be an understatement.
They put hard work into what they develop, why should they give those developments away for free?
Anyone else getting 404 when trying to download lecture 11's video? I'm getting lecture 12 without a problem, but it seems that lecture 11 isn't there.
If they wanted to release the source, they'd have done so by now. Trying to force them will just lead to 'Bad Things'.
Like the fools that keep ranting about Nvidia openning the source of their drivers. I'd never do it in a million years if I were them, and that's partially because I'd be cheating at benchmarks;)
I realize they aren't aiming to make a blockbuster hit of a game, and as such the enviroment has the appeals you've mentioned.
My question was really whether it was worth spending time developing on that platform. Do the skills you pick up there transfer to any other mediums? IE: if I get into working on the dreamcast, will that help me later in developing games for the platforms where it could actually be fruitful?
Seems to me, with the completely different architectures and different scope of capabilities the lessons learned on a dreamcast would be largely useless to a PS2 developper.
Better gaming hardware isn't supposed to make you better at gaming, that's a skill you either develop or don't.
What this hard IS for is to make games look better and provide for more sophisticated engines. If you don't care whether you play pacman or Unreal Tournament 2k3 then you're commenting out of your element.
I want hardware that can render pixar quality 3d environments in realtime on a 16:9 display in high definition so I can totally suspend my disbelief and reach new levels of game immersion. This is what I feel is the common drive for better hardware, and so far, IMHO it's working. I love playing games to the point that the line between the game and reality blur and I for one look forward to the traumatic experience of losing track of that line.
To satisfy my curiosity, I followed your advice and tried eMule.
thus far, I'd consider it poorer-than-average.
On Kazaa I routinely get downloads of 50k/s and even if I'm not, at least my upstream is being used somewhat efficiently. On Emule my upstream is barely being used (I'm sharing 44 Gigs of files, and have almost 400 uploads queued, and for some reason it's barely doing 1.5k/s?) and in 3 hours I've gotten 1 Meg of a Gig's worth of queued files with over 80 sources altogether.
Kazaa does better than this. although I love the chunked network system idea, it doesn't seem to be 'working'.
"Freedom of speech is about the freedom of expressing ideas with a positive intent, not about blabbing every offensive thought that pops into your head. "
Not true. Freedom of speech is about letting someone say whatever they want to, positive or negative. I may not agree with what he has to say, but I'll defend to the death his right to say it. (at the same time, this doesn't preclude him from getting his head kicked in for being an ass)
Keep in mind, this isn't simply a port of the Xbox halo, it'll be practically a completely different game. enhanced multiplayer and enhanced (or dramatically different) single player campain are just two of the things that will differentiate this from the Xbox releases (although there's rumor that Halo 2 will be closer to PC halo)
For clerification/details read the halo.bungie.org forums daily. that's what I did to 'stay in the know'
Ever heard of 'unmetered' colocation? some ISP's offer that service, including mine (who I'll avoid mentioning) at up to 10Mbit off a dedicated 200Mbit trunk.
I'm sure other instances of this service can be found.
I'm with Taco. I like the site JUST the way it is. granted the repeat/redundant news articles sometimes get annoying, but it doesn't happen THAT often. if I wanted CNN, I'd watch CNN. I like knowing/. is run by real people, and if I had the $5 to spare, they'd have it in a second. (except Jon Katz [j/k])
Slashdot Mirror
I think you're running into the Slashdot zealotry.
They're real closed minded about anything that doesn't involve 'open source' or 'freedom'.
Kinda pathetic, isn't it? These are the same freaks that will utter "Microsoft is such a monopoly" and "Linux is a viable alternative for the desktop" in the same breath. Sheesh.
looks kinda like plnbhtoh to me. now try PRONOUNCING it.
:)
I don't mind articles about gaming, as it relates to nerds, but we have bluesnews for everyday stuff like this.
Don't get me wrong, love the new games.slashdot.org, but PLEASE stick to NEWS
*shrug* not releasing linux drivers for next generation devices?
If I was linksys, and was forced to open source for something I didn't want to, I'd be jumping on the 'Microsoft only' bandwagon so fast that 'breakneck' would be an understatement.
They put hard work into what they develop, why should they give those developments away for free?
Anyone else getting 404 when trying to download lecture 11's video?
I'm getting lecture 12 without a problem, but it seems that lecture 11 isn't there.
Maybe you get what you pay for?
Whoa, slashdot effect is in effect :)
subsequent file transfer speeds:
380k/s
237k/s
159k/s
125k/s
117k/s
98k/s
well, that could be as much because of the quality of the hardware rather than the quality of the admin, but I see where you're coming from :)
;)
I'll just wget -r the URL and pray
I feel SO sorry for the sysop who's gonna be trying to manage this slashdotting :)
I figure I'm not the only one who's gonna try to download it all.
I was thinking the EXACT same thing.
;)
If they wanted to release the source, they'd have done so by now. Trying to force them will just lead to 'Bad Things'.
Like the fools that keep ranting about Nvidia openning the source of their drivers. I'd never do it in a million years if I were them, and that's partially because I'd be cheating at benchmarks
I realize they aren't aiming to make a blockbuster hit of a game, and as such the enviroment has the appeals you've mentioned.
My question was really whether it was worth spending time developing on that platform. Do the skills you pick up there transfer to any other mediums? IE: if I get into working on the dreamcast, will that help me later in developing games for the platforms where it could actually be fruitful?
Seems to me, with the completely different architectures and different scope of capabilities the lessons learned on a dreamcast would be largely useless to a PS2 developper.
Anyone worked on both that can comment?
Dreamcast is a dead console, if I'm going to put work into developing for a console at all would I be better served to work on one that has a future?
And there's just something wrong about open-source games.
I think you're missing the point.
Better gaming hardware isn't supposed to make you better at gaming, that's a skill you either develop or don't.
What this hard IS for is to make games look better and provide for more sophisticated engines. If you don't care whether you play pacman or Unreal Tournament 2k3 then you're commenting out of your element.
I want hardware that can render pixar quality 3d environments in realtime on a 16:9 display in high definition so I can totally suspend my disbelief and reach new levels of game immersion. This is what I feel is the common drive for better hardware, and so far, IMHO it's working. I love playing games to the point that the line between the game and reality blur and I for one look forward to the traumatic experience of losing track of that line.
Wasn't having any problem on Kazaa, decent speeds even on anime.
I'm sharing the same files, and queuing the same files as I have shared and queued on Kazaa. and they're movies (anime episodes, to be specific)
:P
I wouldn't compare apples and oranges
To satisfy my curiosity, I followed your advice and tried eMule.
thus far, I'd consider it poorer-than-average.
On Kazaa I routinely get downloads of 50k/s and even if I'm not, at least my upstream is being used somewhat efficiently. On Emule my upstream is barely being used (I'm sharing 44 Gigs of files, and have almost 400 uploads queued, and for some reason it's barely doing 1.5k/s?) and in 3 hours I've gotten 1 Meg of a Gig's worth of queued files with over 80 sources altogether.
Kazaa does better than this. although I love the chunked network system idea, it doesn't seem to be 'working'.
THANK YOU for telling me where that quote comes from.
A friend said it once and I took a real shine to it. Now I know who to credit!
Thanks again.
"Freedom of speech is about the freedom of expressing ideas with a positive intent, not about blabbing every offensive thought that pops into your head. "
Not true. Freedom of speech is about letting someone say whatever they want to, positive or negative. I may not agree with what he has to say, but I'll defend to the death his right to say it. (at the same time, this doesn't preclude him from getting his head kicked in for being an ass)
No luck. it's definitely not for the faint of heart.
too bad, it showed a lot of promise.
It's mentioned in their FAQ (and I'm in the process of trying it) that it can be compiled for win32 using cygwin.
this doesn't mean I'll succeed though, the slightest of tweaking required and I'll fail. don't know anything about linux.
But Keep in mind what one spammer said in a previous Spam article on /.:
"Stopping spam is simply a matter of economics. When its uneconomical to send spam, people will stop sending it."
IE: if everyone's inboxes are filtered, there won't be any spam anymore.
who ever said that's all Slashdot is about?
I hate linux/BSD/Open Source, but I still read slashdot for a few hours a day.
Keep in mind, this isn't simply a port of the Xbox halo, it'll be practically a completely different game. enhanced multiplayer and enhanced (or dramatically different) single player campain are just two of the things that will differentiate this from the Xbox releases (although there's rumor that Halo 2 will be closer to PC halo)
For clerification/details read the halo.bungie.org forums daily. that's what I did to 'stay in the know'
Ever heard of 'unmetered' colocation? some ISP's offer that service, including mine (who I'll avoid mentioning) at up to 10Mbit off a dedicated 200Mbit trunk.
I'm sure other instances of this service can be found.
I'm with Taco. I like the site JUST the way it is. granted the repeat/redundant news articles sometimes get annoying, but it doesn't happen THAT often. if I wanted CNN, I'd watch CNN. I like knowing /. is run by real people, and if I had the $5 to spare, they'd have it in a second. (except Jon Katz [j/k])
Taco makes a good point, Lighten up!
The > is the DOS 'redirect' syntax, but a lot of us called it 'pipe' in the old days.
serves practically the same function.
Wow, i didn't see that coming, didn't make the connection.
damn MS is smart, I'd mod you up but I'm a karmaless kiddy
your point really does make me think though.