I am a total skeptic of this plant, but good luck to him if it works.
Reading through the stories, I see they are burning methane. And the process produces 10 tons of ash per 100 tons input, destined for cement kilns and the like. Will we get to know what is in that ash, or is it a 'trade secret?'
So obviously there is some permitting process with the state he has to go through. I trust my state to determine whether his plant can do what it says without adding to pollution problems rather than his word.
Washington, particularly rural parts, e.g. Hanford, has been dumped on in the name of progress. I would rather be safe than the testing ground for new allegedly environmentally safe technologies.
In Washington state, there is no dearth of biomass to energy projects. Must involve combustion of waste products from timber industry and the like. If they can be done cleanly, build away.
p>While we're on the subject of bidding, I have to ask; Doesn't the fact that this company is an NGO imply that they receive government funding?
Um, you DO know what NGO stands for, right?
From Wikipedia: "A non-governmental organization (NGO) is a legally constituted organization created by natural or legal persons that operates independently from any government and a term usually used by governments to refer to entities that have no government status. In the cases in which NGOs are funded totally or partially by governments, the NGO maintains its non-governmental status by excluding government representatives from membership in the organization."
In general, even if an NGO is funded by the government, that money is decided to be given to the NGO through whatever political process and the NGO is free to use it for their goals however they wish, without oversight of the government.
There are plenty of so-called businessmen out there with grandiose plans of converting biomass to energy without any pollution. Unfortunately, this sounds like one of them.
Mount St. Helens erupted on a Sunday. If it waited a day, it would have taken out quite a few loggers...
I know a guy who was with his family camping a ridge or two north of the mountain on May 18, 1980. They weren't sure they were going to make it.
They were the closest north of the blast zone survivors. (If I remember correctly, someone was camping just west of the mountain, less than five miles. Imagine the freak out they experienced.)
Funny you should mention California power. Partly due to the crisis and the free market system of wholesale power, a small Public Utility District in Washington State which happens to own a dam on the Columbia River, is rolling in dough.
Guess what they are doing with some of the excess profits? Wiring the whole district with fiber optic lines.
And this is in a pretty much rural, small-town area.
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I had a funny experience. I went to the website and downloaded and ran the patch but it gave me a message saying I did not need to install this update and exited. Anyone else have this happen?
Hmmm... me too. The scary part is I just reinstalled Windows ME after reducing my windows partition to give my linux more breathing room.
I was online for a while... perhaps it did an automatic update?
I am trying to kick my MS habit, but games are the thing that have kept me tied to Windows.
But after getting SuSe 7.1 and upgrading to the latest drivers for my GeForce 2, I'm impressed with my first foray into linux gaming and Unreal Tournament.
Installing SuSe 7.1 was about as difficult as installing Windows ME. Upgrading the XFree 4.02 drivers was pretty simple, with a little help from SuSe's Linux Knowledge Portal http://portal.suse.de/en/
It was about as easy to update them as Windows drivers, and just as 'intuitive', which is to say, not at all.
There were a few problems with a couple of the textures, but overall, it looked good and ran fast. Then again, I was used to the hi-res textures I installed for my Windows setup. (I know you can set them up for Linux, in fact, it was available in Linux before most Windows setups, but I didn't want to search up how it was done, and felt I was doing good just to get the regular way running nicely)
But the main point is I installed it, ran the sucker, got hooked and played last night for about six hours, two or three of them trying to kill freakin' Xan in the finale. Tonight I got home from work, and in a mere two hours, finally beat the bastard. I can't remember when I was that excited to beat a game! I never did beat the cheating bastard in my many, many hours of playing under Windows.
I'm thinking it is some kind of omen for linux gaming in general
All my gaming money will now go for Linux games.
How can I do this? Well, I've really been wanting to play less games and immerse myself into the linux world, so if I just play Linux games I'm kind of learning Linux, right?
(Quake III on Linux? Not for me. I don't like the game. Plus after just experiencing my first real quake with the Pacific Northwest earthquake earlier this week (While trying to climb Mount St. Helens no less) anything with the name 'Quake' is not gonna sit too well with me.)
I think that the industry needs to work with game magazines and the gov't to set self-regulating standards for print and internet ads that, while advertizing an M-rated game, don't cross a PG line, when these ads are in 'family' settings. For example, printing Q3A will full-gore on screenshots, or showing the heroine in the skimpy bathsuit is questionable.
The point of the current bruhaha is that the game industry *did* agree to self regulated advertising standards.
Studies late last year have shown that they have not followed their own proposed standards.
So therefore ratings advocates have decided to put out this semi-draconic action for debate.
I think that the industry needs to work with game magazines and the gov't to set self-regulating standards for print and internet ads that, while advertizing an M-rated game, don't cross a PG line, when these ads are in 'family' settings. For example, printing Q3A will full-gore on screenshots, or showing the heroine in the skimpy bathsuit is questionable.
Startups don't work that way. And when my company is off the ground, I guarantee you I'll fire anyone who forms a union in my company. I'll do all their jobs myself before I'll bow to any union thugs
And if you are in the U.S., hopefully that employee would have the balls to take your anonymous coward butt to court and sue you, the prefered way it seems people these days solve problems.
Last time I checked, it was still illegal to fire someone for unionizing. Perhaps that why you are posting as an anonymous coward - cover your tracks.
P.S. Before you start your startup you might want to check out basic employee management relations and the laws that apply to them.
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I am a total skeptic of this plant, but good luck to him if it works.
Reading through the stories, I see they are burning methane. And the process produces 10 tons of ash per 100 tons input, destined for cement kilns and the like. Will we get to know what is in that ash, or is it a 'trade secret?'
So obviously there is some permitting process with the state he has to go through.
I trust my state to determine whether his plant can do what it says without adding to pollution problems rather than his word.
Washington, particularly rural parts, e.g. Hanford, has been dumped on in the name of progress. I would rather be safe than the testing ground for new allegedly environmentally safe technologies.
In Washington state, there is no dearth of biomass to energy projects. Must involve combustion of waste products from timber industry and the like. If they can be done cleanly, build away.
p>While we're on the subject of bidding, I have to ask; Doesn't the fact that this company is an NGO imply that they receive government funding?
Um, you DO know what NGO stands for, right?
From Wikipedia: "A non-governmental organization (NGO) is a legally constituted organization created by natural or legal persons that operates independently from any government and a term usually used by governments to refer to entities that have no government status. In the cases in which NGOs are funded totally or partially by governments, the NGO maintains its non-governmental status by excluding government representatives from membership in the organization."
In general, even if an NGO is funded by the government, that money is decided to be given to the NGO through whatever political process and the NGO is free to use it for their goals however they wish, without oversight of the government.
It is not as cut-and-dried as TFA (I prefer to call it press-release journalism) claims.
From the Tri-City Herald: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/11/21/1260850/pasco-biomass-company-plans-to.html
There are plenty of so-called businessmen out there with grandiose plans of converting biomass to energy without any pollution. Unfortunately, this sounds like one of them.
The race wouldn't be so close if they simply allowed IRV or Rank Choice Voting. I voted for Ruth Bennett, and would have chose Chris second.
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That's speculation; you can't know that most Bennett voters would have voted Gregoire second.
from the candidate herself:
http://www.tdn.com/articles/2004/11/04/top_story/
Umm, an Apples to oranges comparison.
Mac monitors are glorious, W I D E S C R E E N (gems).
Ever look at one?
They were on Mount Adams.
They stayed up for a bit as the ash cloud came toward them. Then they felt static electricity as lightning came from the ash cloud!
Then they left real quick like.
gregg
Darn -- you were almost over the scary part. The trail gets much better, with quite a bit more nice views.
It's only real scary for about 500 feet.
Amazing views of Spirit Lake were just around the corner.
gregg
Mount St. Helens erupted on a Sunday. If it waited a day, it would have taken out quite a few loggers ...
I know a guy who was with his family camping a ridge or two north of the mountain on May 18, 1980. They weren't sure they were going to make it.
They were the closest north of the blast zone survivors. (If I remember correctly, someone was camping just west of the mountain, less than five miles. Imagine the freak out they experienced.)
gregg
I live a mere 60 miles from the mountain.
No need to panic. It might just provide some cool pictures/video.
Me and my brother were climbing Mount St. Helens on Feb. 28, 2001.
We were about halfway up, and the ground started shaking quite well. Completely disoriented us.
No avalanches. Just quiet. The loudest noise was my hear pounding.
Got back down pretty quick.
Turns out it was the Nisqually earthquake (6.8?) near Seattle. Messed things up fairly good.
gregg
Sorry, nearest trees are almost 4,000 feet lower on the mountain.
No trees to hug there.
Being a tree hugger myself, I wouldn't mind a few getting burnt to a crispy crisp to see a real live lava flow.
Unfortunately, there aren't too many trees near the crater.
gregg
That the column's web page had Gimp and Linux penguin icons at the bottom?
...
Some would think this shows bias
gregg
Funny you should mention California power. Partly due to the crisis and the free market system of wholesale power, a small Public Utility District in Washington State which happens to own a dam on the Columbia River, is rolling in dough.
Guess what they are doing with some of the excess profits? Wiring the whole district with fiber optic lines.
And this is in a pretty much rural, small-town area.
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I had a funny experience. I went to the website and downloaded and ran the patch but it gave me a message saying I did not need to install this update and exited. Anyone else have this happen?
... perhaps it did an automatic update?
Hmmm... me too. The scary part is I just reinstalled Windows ME after reducing my windows partition to give my linux more breathing room. I was online for a while
gregg
I am trying to kick my MS habit, but games are the thing that have kept me tied to Windows.
But after getting SuSe 7.1 and upgrading to the latest drivers for my GeForce 2, I'm impressed with my first foray into linux gaming and Unreal Tournament.
Installing SuSe 7.1 was about as difficult as installing Windows ME. Upgrading the XFree 4.02 drivers was pretty simple, with a little help from SuSe's Linux Knowledge Portal http://portal.suse.de/en/
It was about as easy to update them as Windows drivers, and just as 'intuitive', which is to say, not at all.
There were a few problems with a couple of the textures, but overall, it looked good and ran fast. Then again, I was used to the hi-res textures I installed for my Windows setup. (I know you can set them up for Linux, in fact, it was available in Linux before most Windows setups, but I didn't want to search up how it was done, and felt I was doing good just to get the regular way running nicely)
But the main point is I installed it, ran the sucker, got hooked and played last night for about six hours, two or three of them trying to kill freakin' Xan in the finale. Tonight I got home from work, and in a mere two hours, finally beat the bastard. I can't remember when I was that excited to beat a game! I never did beat the cheating bastard in my many, many hours of playing under Windows.
I'm thinking it is some kind of omen for linux gaming in general
All my gaming money will now go for Linux games. How can I do this? Well, I've really been wanting to play less games and immerse myself into the linux world, so if I just play Linux games I'm kind of learning Linux, right?
(Quake III on Linux? Not for me. I don't like the game. Plus after just experiencing my first real quake with the Pacific Northwest earthquake earlier this week (While trying to climb Mount St. Helens no less) anything with the name 'Quake' is not gonna sit too well with me.)
I think that the industry needs to work with game magazines and the gov't to set self-regulating standards for print and internet ads that, while advertizing an M-rated game, don't cross a PG line, when these ads are in 'family' settings. For example, printing Q3A will full-gore on screenshots, or showing the heroine in the skimpy bathsuit is questionable.
The point of the current bruhaha is that the game industry *did* agree to self regulated advertising standards.
Studies late last year have shown that they have not followed their own proposed standards.
So therefore ratings advocates have decided to put out this semi-draconic action for debate.
gregg
I think that the industry needs to work with game magazines and the gov't to set self-regulating standards for print and internet ads that, while advertizing an M-rated game, don't cross a PG line, when these ads are in 'family' settings. For example, printing Q3A will full-gore on screenshots, or showing the heroine in the skimpy bathsuit is questionable.
Startups don't work that way. And when my company is off the ground, I guarantee you I'll fire anyone who forms a union in my company. I'll do all their jobs myself before I'll bow to any union thugs
And if you are in the U.S., hopefully that employee would have the balls to take your anonymous coward butt to court and sue you, the prefered way it seems people these days solve problems.
Last time I checked, it was still illegal to fire someone for unionizing. Perhaps that why you are posting as an anonymous coward - cover your tracks.
P.S. Before you start your startup you might want to check out basic employee management relations and the laws that apply to them.
gregg