I seem to remember a time with 5.2 when I attempted to update the GTK and glib RPM's using Gnome's RPM's, and it really, REALLY broke things. I ended up backing out of the RPM, and then 6.0 came out. Now that we're at 6.1, and idea of Gnome.org's RPM's will update 6.1's RPM's without a hitch?
I'll just go compile it up on my Slackware system, but I dare not touch comnpiling on the RedHat machine for fear the wrath of the RPM discrepency demon..
They ARE out there, but they are incredibly expensive. At one time I had a system called a 'TechPad' It was the same thing, but a little smaller, but also with an integrated Radio Modem. My favorite thing was the show it to people, and DROP it on purpose. Then say 'Oh, wait, this is dirty, lemme WASH IT OFF!'..;-P You should see the people wince as I dropped it, never mind ran it under a hose, while running..
Problem is, it was like 6,000$...
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Microsoft didn't get why they are by bundling. They got where they are by bundling using exlusivity contracts, etc..;-P
My message was meant as a joke. IMHO, though, they went aftr Microsoft for the wrong thing.
Yes, but in the case of 2.1.x there where MANY people running a development kernel, and not nearly that amount has been using 2.3 kernels, primarily becouse there really isn't anything that different from it and 2.2. I forsee some large bugs coming back to bite Linus in the arse that could have been prevented by simply waiting, and add new things to 2.3, that people will be wanting. Right now, there really is nothing in 2.3 that people want all that bad that ISN'T in 2.2. Why NOT continue development more..
I guess it all depends on how you look at it. Simply put, IMHO, it's to early..
Well, it took what, 120+ subrevisions of 2.1 to hit 2.2? I just happen to think that it HASN'T been banged on enough. They CAN bang on it more, and should. I don't think ANYONE looks forward to thinking that the distro's will need to release 4 versions a year to keep up..
I agree, but that should be what 2.3 is for. 2.4 is TO SOON. 2.3 has not been beaten on NEARLY enough. I'm worried that they are getting caught up in the hype. They have often said 'release often', but I think for the publics eyes, they are bumping the rev, not for technical merit.
As much as I hate to say it, I think they are rushing it out the door too damned soon. While I invite the changes that ARE happening, I don't think that there has been enough of a breakin time for the 2.3 kernel to goto 2.4 already. There are not NEARLY as many users of 2.3 as there was 2.1.
I truely hope they are not trying to get this out the door to give the appearence of rapid development. It's be wrong, and come back to bite the entire community in the rear..
I disagree. That's why we have the moderation system. If you posts by score, you tend to get the smarter folks first. I'm not saying that this always happens, but moderation is 'Peer Review'..
Well, this is an interesting use of the Slashdot Community. We've taken a small step from a 'Feedback' community to actually generating stories. This could actually lead to something interesting..
Perhaps a section of slashdot for proposed stories to be discussed, with actual stories being a summary of comments, etc..
I'n guessing this would also apply to XML tags..;-P Hopefully, that PEZ Collectors shop didn't want to create an XML interface to their sales system.. DoH!
You've obviously never tried to properly played 'proper'. An incredible roll doesn't mean you sat there and 'took it'. It means you managed to survive by some chance of fate.. You managed to duck a behind a rock, etc..etc..
Requiring the authors to put a rating system in their pages would lead to them messing with the system, to make their pages come up first. Just like the web pages that have 50,000,000 SEX at the bottom of the page in an attempt to make the search engine rate their page higher..
As an avid Linux user for years, you're right, but they don't really 'compete'. BSD has borrowed from Linux, and vs. versa.. I'm not sure 'complement eachother' is the right word, but I don;t think it's a competition..
So despite the verbal fireworks and philosophical disputes, we're all hackers together. What unites us is more important than what divides us.
That is one of the most inspiring thing I can honestly say I've ever heard ESR say. Not saying he's never said anything good, but this sticks out in my mind..
This is a great idea, basically, rating things simular to how Deja news can rate UseNet articles, but on a larger scale, it only draws attention to the posts that happen to get rated high. There's to much VOLUME going thru the web/Usenet to rate anything on a larger scale like this seems to intend to do.
Slashdot works becouse there is a relatively small amount of content, and a large user base. Reverse that, and you get someones great idea that never comes to fruition.
Nope. But only becouse AMD is doing the same thing 'A different way'. If you use the same method of doing things, you pay Intel. If you come up with your own, you don't. This is why the chips can actually run faster then eachother in DIFFERENT situations. Doing one thing may run faster on the AMD, and another run faster on the Intel chip.
I believe that they use that field as a marker for where the people coming in come from. Perhaps they have some add agreement for so many click-thru's from stories, they get banner add space?
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You could always setup autorpm to look at the updates directory on gnome's ftp site.
I seem to remember a time with 5.2 when I attempted to update the GTK and glib RPM's using Gnome's RPM's, and it really, REALLY broke things. I ended up backing out of the RPM, and then 6.0 came out. Now that we're at 6.1, and idea of Gnome.org's RPM's will update 6.1's RPM's without a hitch?
I'll just go compile it up on my Slackware system, but I dare not touch comnpiling on the RedHat machine for fear the wrath of the RPM discrepency demon..
They ARE out there, but they are incredibly expensive. At one time I had a system called a 'TechPad' It was the same thing, but a little smaller, but also with an integrated Radio Modem. My favorite thing was the show it to people, and DROP it on purpose. Then say 'Oh, wait, this is dirty, lemme WASH IT OFF!'.. ;-P You should see the people wince as I dropped it, never mind ran it under a hose, while running..
Problem is, it was like 6,000$...
Microsoft didn't get why they are by bundling. They got where they are by bundling using exlusivity contracts, etc.. ;-P
My message was meant as a joke. IMHO, though, they went aftr Microsoft for the wrong thing.
Becouse you can BUY things and have the products automagically charged to your AOL users account..
I'm sorry, but imtergration like this is forbidden by law. Please reference States Vs. Microsoft, 1999.
Yes, but in the case of 2.1.x there where MANY people running a development kernel, and not nearly that amount has been using 2.3 kernels, primarily becouse there really isn't anything that different from it and 2.2. I forsee some large bugs coming back to bite Linus in the arse that could have been prevented by simply waiting, and add new things to 2.3, that people will be wanting. Right now, there really is nothing in 2.3 that people want all that bad that ISN'T in 2.2. Why NOT continue development more..
I guess it all depends on how you look at it. Simply put, IMHO, it's to early..
True.. I guess as long as it's not going to hit 3.0 anytime soon.
Well, it took what, 120+ subrevisions of 2.1 to hit 2.2? I just happen to think that it HASN'T been banged on enough. They CAN bang on it more, and should. I don't think ANYONE looks forward to thinking that the distro's will need to release 4 versions a year to keep up..
I agree, but that should be what 2.3 is for. 2.4 is TO SOON. 2.3 has not been beaten on NEARLY enough. I'm worried that they are getting caught up in the hype. They have often said 'release often', but I think for the publics eyes, they are bumping the rev, not for technical merit.
This really has me worried..
As much as I hate to say it, I think they are rushing it out the door too damned soon. While I invite the changes that ARE happening, I don't think that there has been enough of a breakin time for the 2.3 kernel to goto 2.4 already. There are not NEARLY as many users of 2.3 as there was 2.1.
I truely hope they are not trying to get this out the door to give the appearence of rapid development. It's be wrong, and come back to bite the entire community in the rear..
I disagree. That's why we have the moderation system. If you posts by score, you tend to get the smarter folks first. I'm not saying that this always happens, but moderation is 'Peer Review'..
Basically, I look at it this way. The article was reviewed by a team of 'Experts', which suggested changes, etc, for the document.
The slashdot community has more then one expert amungst us, and they tend to get moderated up more then down..
HeHe.. I think that already applies.. ;-P
Well, this is an interesting use of the Slashdot Community. We've taken a small step from a 'Feedback' community to actually generating stories. This could actually lead to something interesting..
Perhaps a section of slashdot for proposed stories to be discussed, with actual stories being a summary of comments, etc..
"From the Community, FOR the community"
I'n guessing this would also apply to XML tags.. ;-P Hopefully, that PEZ Collectors shop didn't want to create an XML interface to their sales system.. DoH!
You've obviously never tried to properly played 'proper'. An incredible roll doesn't mean you sat there and 'took it'. It means you managed to survive by some chance of fate.. You managed to duck a behind a rock, etc..etc..
I find it funny that my post got market 'Redundant' when I had the first post in the discussion area.. Shesh..
Requiring the authors to put a rating system in their pages would lead to them messing with the system, to make their pages come up first. Just like the web pages that have 50,000,000 SEX at the bottom of the page in an attempt to make the search engine rate their page higher..
As an avid Linux user for years, you're right, but they don't really 'compete'. BSD has borrowed from Linux, and vs. versa.. I'm not sure 'complement eachother' is the right word, but I don;t think it's a competition..
Well, it doesn't mean that Linux won't change drastically, and BE more exciting.. ;-P
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Linux for the Toaster, anyone?
So despite the verbal fireworks and philosophical disputes, we're all hackers together. What unites us is more important than what divides us.
That is one of the most inspiring thing I can honestly say I've ever heard ESR say. Not saying he's never said anything good, but this sticks out in my mind..
This is a great idea, basically, rating things simular to how Deja news can rate UseNet articles, but on a larger scale, it only draws attention to the posts that happen to get rated high. There's to much VOLUME going thru the web/Usenet to rate anything on a larger scale like this seems to intend to do.
Slashdot works becouse there is a relatively small amount of content, and a large user base. Reverse that, and you get someones great idea that never comes to fruition.
Nope. But only becouse AMD is doing the same thing 'A different way'. If you use the same method of doing things, you pay Intel. If you come up with your own, you don't. This is why the chips can actually run faster then eachother in DIFFERENT situations. Doing one thing may run faster on the AMD, and another run faster on the Intel chip.
I believe that they use that field as a marker for where the people coming in come from. Perhaps they have some add agreement for so many click-thru's from stories, they get banner add space?