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The Matrix DVD Troubles

kubrickian writes "Apparently many people have been experiencing trouble with their new DVDs of The Matrix. " My player worked fine, but then again without DVD support under Linux, I haven't tested the PC stuff. But I still don't know ju-jitsu.

221 comments

  1. Flawless, best demo disc I own by jedinite · · Score: 3

    I own an overworked Pioneer 505 series DVD player, and have had absolutely zero problems. In the week or so I've had The Matrix, I have had three complete showings and have seen all the "special" hidden stuff at least twice. Zero problems.

    AFIAK, there's not a better demo disc on the planet. Full-motion video on the scene selection, tons of extra goodies, and crystal-clear sound and video.

    Personally, I would have been extremely disapointed had The Matrix not included all these kick-ass features. Early adaptors (those on the cutting edge of technology, who generally buy before the rest of the masses and are willing to put up with flakey tech - I am definately one) always get burned on these kind of new features down the line. I'm on my second DVD player for just that reason. Don't like the fact that your "old" player can't handle the badass new stuff? Get a new player which can handle it (~$300 at Best Buy). Don't try to stop technology from advancing. Adapt, or quit complaining ;)

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    1. Re:Flawless, best demo disc I own by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All DVD players are the same. They can all read all of the DVD data the same. That's like saying that some CD players can't play vertain songs. DVD is a standard. If you owen a DVD player, you get to see all of the menus, features, etc. You get x,y resolution, and x channels of sound.

    2. Re:Flawless, best demo disc I own by kennylives · · Score: 1

      All DVD players are the same. They can all read all of the DVD data the same.

      Not true. Not at all. Saying DVD is a standard is like saying HTML is a standard.

      I'm blessed with a first-generation player, and it chokes on the Matrix. Bad. If I have the "White Rabbit" feature turned off, it sputters and chokes over the "hidden" material, then the sound is out of sync with the video. Very annoying. (BTW, to correct this, after the stuttering, pause, then continue seems to get audio and video back in sync)

      Meanwhile, a friend of mine has a cheap (new) DVD player, and it works fine.

      It looks (to me) like the head is not tracking quickly enough and it mucks up the mpeg stream. Or, the read-ahead buffer is too small. Or... it's a first-gen player. I had to expect it.

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    3. Re:Flawless, best demo disc I own by Gunzour · · Score: 1

      You are kidding, right? Standards change. Standards evolve. Manufacturers don't always follow standards.

      Welcome to the real world...

  2. Re:Matrix DVD by mong · · Score: 1

    The evils of the US? Invading our hallowed shores? Never! We will never be overcome! We shall fight them on the beaches! We shall fight them on the...

    Oops, sorry :)

    Seriously, I don't think DVD (as it stands) is good enough for it to be mainstream here. No offense, but just because lots of people have it there, doesn't mean it's a Good Thing(tm). I mean, lots of people use Windows (including me), but this is certainly not a Good Thing(tm). We all use VHS, but Beta was by *far* a better format.

    I'm not sold on DVD (yet), but I look forward to the time when my PC can be just as good as my TV/Video setup.

    Mong.

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  3. gonna make for a nerve-wracking viewing... by tuffy · · Score: 1

    Invited a pile of pals over for a Matrix viewing and now I'm not sure if my Panasonic A120U will handle the disc. I checked out the start of the commentary option (which seems like the whole movie with running commentary from the stars and producers, etc.) and it worked okay. I might have to watch it ahead of time just to make sure it works.

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  4. one prob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if only DVD's can be played on linux

  5. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oooooooooooooooooookay. Sure. That's the same argument as: My file sucks when it is transferred over a modem (analog). But it is much better when transferred over a serial cable (digital). In the end you get the same stuff. So who the hell cares how it gets there? This is about as good as the "burned audio CDs don't sound as good as the originals" argument.

  6. No one knows really "kung fu" because... by PsychoKick · · Score: 1

    ..."kung fu" is not a style, but a category of geographical orgin. Specifically, it refers to the thousands of different Chinese martial art styles, many of which are completely at odds in terms of what techniques and strategies are taught and emphasized. For example, Wing Chun style (very grounded and punch oriented) is completely different from Wu Shu style (highly acrobatic with lots of kicks), but both are Chinese martial arts, and thus fall under the category "kung fu". Escrima, Savate, and Jujutsu aren't Chinese styles (they're Filipino, French, and Japanese, respectively), so they aren't "kung fu". Besides, it's not the style that matters, but how it's used. Different styles exist because different things work for different physiques and body types.

  7. Works fine on my Pioneer 103S DVD-ROM by Radix999 · · Score: 1

    And boy what a DVD it is too! I hope this encourages other companies to produce such feature packed DVD's in future - I mean.. three soundtracks, a 30 minute making of video, special 'follow the white rabbit' scenes (whoever thought of that is a genius) where you can jump from the movie into a special bit about how they made that section of the movie, and then once it's finished then jump back to the movie where you left off. Plus you've got heaps of multimedia extras - web links, interactive games, and heaps of stuff. I definitely consider it the best DVD I've ever seen - and Warner should be proud of it. From what I've heard it's already outsold Titanic and every other DVD out there and it's only been out for just over a week!

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  8. Re:All I wanted to do was watch a movie!!! by L1Wolf · · Score: 1

    I had a similiar expierence myself. Other than the nasty PC Friendly stuff I had no problems on my NT boxen with my second generation Toshiba DVD drive and my Hollywood 98 decoder card. On my G3, nothing at all. Luckly some other kind patron has all ready posted the fix for that.

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  9. Re:Taking The DVD Plunge? by Keeper · · Score: 1

    I just checked on my player ... there is an option in "other settings" that can be set to "Pan & Scan" -- however it doesn't just chop the sides off of the picture as I assumed it did.

    I guess it's a preference to decide which "movie" to play on a disc with both movies.

    That is somewhat frustrating...

    Not that I care myself (letterbox is the only way to go... Just need to get one of those 50" lcd screen thingies to go with it ;).

  10. Re:Got a Panasonic A120 by RadarRider · · Score: 1

    I have a Panasonic A110. At one or two points in the movie, it skips ahead a bit. For example, at the point where Neo, Morpheus, and the gang are leaving the building where they were inserted into the Matrix so that Neo and Morpheus can go see the Oracle, it skips ahead to the point where Neo is reaching for the doorknob to the Oracle's apartment. If I reverse it from there to just after the point it skipped from, it plays fine. Haven't had any problems with the menus or special features so far.

  11. Re:More Problems With 'The Matrix' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The matrix is available on DVD, eXistinZ is not (currently.. October 19th I think.. i've pre-ordered a copy, and i hope to get it sometime...)

    Why do you say that few /.ers would buy this film?


    Jacob

  12. Re:Got a Panasonic A310 by Falshire · · Score: 1

    The only problem on my copy of The Matrix is while watching the scene where Fishburne and co leave the old abandoned building to go see the oracle it skips to the very next scene of the door to the Oracle's apartment opening...in order to see the scene as they go from the building to the Oracle I've got to 'rewind' back...Not a big problem, but it is annoying.

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  13. Re:To play it on a MAC/my experience/ MP3 by Keeper · · Score: 1

    Just because your DVD player is 2 months old doesn't mean that it 100% complient with spec. You think IE 5 is totally complient with all of the standards it claims to support?

    You ended up buying a player that was rushed out the door with the though "ah, nobody 'll ever use that feature in a DVD". Guess what, you found one that did.

    The fact that the disc works great in some players, and other players have the exact same problem (reported over and over again) only confirms that it is a hardware/player specific problem and not a "screwup" on the disc.

    And where are you getting this "grainy" crap from? The special features showed some artificating, as did the menu, but the movie itself was GREAT!!! (the intro is also one of the coolest I've seen on a DVD).

    I had 13 people crammed in my tiny dorm room watching this movie at volumes that could be heard at least 4 floors away if you want any testimonials to the quality of the DVD on a good player.

  14. Re:so, what do we do? by [Dilbert] · · Score: 1
    DONT GET A SIGMA HOLLYWOOD PLUS!!

    that's what I have and it's not werkin. My DVD is Toshiba M1212, the player works fine... it's just the decoder, chokes on the disc for some reason. e-mailed Sigma, no response yet.

    ARRG.

    I didn't spend $$ on it to be stuck using the software decoder that came with my video card...

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  15. Re:Hmmm, I never had this problem with laserdisc.. by Keeper · · Score: 1

    How many problems with "software problems" have you experienced with a DVD player personally?

    How many times have you bought a DVD disc and had to return it because it didn't work correctly? How many DVD discs have you ever bought?

    Me? Zero. None. Nada. Zip. Every disc I have ever bought works perfectly. All 40 of them. Double layer, double sided, extra audio tracks, special videos, menu transitions, scene selections, the works. Not a glitch.

  16. What does wired have to do with /. ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does this exist ? :) http://www.wired.com/news/news/slashdot/

  17. VHS sucks by grant · · Score: 1

    Let's see you get 6 distinct, independant audio channels out of VHS.

    And the picture quality of VHS sucks in comparison, no matter how good your tape, nor your player.

    Everytime the tape passes the heads, you damage it.

  18. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's cheaper at Reel.com, that's where I got mine. UPS Ground was pretty quick too. 12.49

  19. Re:Wired section for Slashdot? by drew · · Score: 1

    most browsers do this, but not all. i worked for an e-commerce company where we had to disable some of our tracking stuff that was based on http-referer because a few widespread browsers don't implement it. MSIE for the mac was the most notable one, but i believe there were one or two other (reasonably) popular browsers that do the same thing.

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  20. Re:Matrix DVD by laymil · · Score: 1

    of course, you seem to forget that many new movies are dropping 35mm film and going all digital. digital can achieve much higher frame rates. it will make a difference. muahahahaha!

  21. Re:I have a Toshiba 3109.... by Praxxis · · Score: 1

    Same here, I have the SD-3109 and it plays flawlessly. I haven't noticed a sluggish response.

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  22. My Toshiba SD-M1202 IDE freezes all the time by Geccoman · · Score: 1

    I have a Toshiba 1202, PIII450, and STB Velocity 4400. I got it installed, and it freezes in the cocoon scene, the kung-fu scene and when Neo is first dodging bullets. I took mine back (Best Buy) and exchanged for another. Same probs. I tried a different video card (V550) no luck. I had been using Xing and PcFriendly (my ASS!) and still freezing. I downloaded PowerDVD and it plays the scenes, but plays them twice (3 second rewind) . Besides, I don't want to have to pay 50 bucks to get my DVD to play, and still not play right! Of course, my home DVD player has no problems. I guess I have to buy a new DVD ROM?

    Geccoman

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    1. Re:My Toshiba SD-M1202 IDE freezes all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could watch the Matrix without any kind of annoyance, as smooth as possible with the following configuration Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD-ROM ATI Xpert-XL AGP with 4MB EDO-RAM 64 MB SDRAM PC100 AMD K6-2 350 on 100 MHz FSB ATI DVD software player v3.1 (I do not have a DVD decoder) Windows95-OSR2 Your configuration seems much better than mine. You should have a minor glitch somewhere, most probably software DVD player.

  23. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by jpatters · · Score: 1

    Except that The Matrix LD is at least twice the size or maybe even 3x the size and probably has to be flipped to get the extra features.

    I *like* the fact that the disk is bigger, you get a nice large jacket to go with it. My player plays both sides automatically.

    It probably doesn't have the PC extras either, like the entire website on the disc. While I wouldn't replace (right away anyway) an entire collection of LDs with DVDs, I think the DVD format is far superior to LD.

    I wouldn't say far superior, but DVD video does have a few more lines of resolution. The (digital) audio is identical, however. Some DVD's have exhibited compression artifacts during heavy action sequences, LD's don't have this problem because they don't use compression. Of course, the video on LD's is analog, and low end players can show some "chroma noise" occasionally. As far as extras, The Matrix LD has a running audio commentary, and "Behind-the-scenes documentaries".

    My LD collection is small (about fourty titles), but approximately twenty of them are unavailable on DVD (mostly Star Wars and Robotech, which are unlikely to be on DVD for a few years anyway, I think Lucas said that the Star Wars DVD's wouldn't be coming out until after Episode III is done showing in theatres)

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  24. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you ever seen & heard DVD? Not only is it great, but there aren't any viable alternatives. Besides, ALL of the studios now support it, so it's the next format, whether you like it or not.

  25. Re:Future is Analog Video Cassette(AVC)?? by mong · · Score: 1

    No, the future certianly isn't ADC. It's more like video-on-demand and stuff like that. DVD won't be able to compete, in under 10 years time, when we all have the ability to just stream a full movie into our house. It's already happening in the UK now, with the latest DigitalTV advance.

    I certainly wouldn't invest in ADC. That'd be silly.

    Anyway, we've got completley off topic here!

    Mong.

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  26. None of the Samsung Players will work. by MageWyn · · Score: 1

    None of the Samsung DVD Players will play the Matrix. Guess what brand I have? It's all because of the Dual Layer Technology Warner Brothers used. I bought it on a Saturday, took it back Sunday, and exchanged it for a good, quality DVD... Monty Python and the Holy Grail. If anyone finds anything out about possible work arounds that WB might be developing (Besides VHS) then let me know!

    1. Re:None of the Samsung Players will work. by logicTrAp · · Score: 1

      Samsung supposedly already has a fix tested for their players. No idea what it will take to get the upgrade.

      (This isn't WB's fault, the disc is conformant by all accounts, it just pushes the limits of the spec)

    2. Re:None of the Samsung Players will work. by scottm · · Score: 1

      The "Dual Layer technology" that WB used has nothing to do with why The Matrix won't play in your Samsung. Dual layer discs have been around forever and they are a standard. Without going dual layer only 2 hours of content can be put on one side of a disc. Dual layer allows 4 hours of video. Check http://www.dvdtalk.com/ and http://www.dvdresource.com/ for info about the problems. Good call grabbing Monty Python & The Holy Grail, though... I just bought it along with Meaning of Life and Life of Brian...

    3. Re:None of the Samsung Players will work. by jpatters · · Score: 1

      If anyone finds anything out about possible work arounds that WB might be developing (Besides VHS) then let me know!

      The Matrix is available on Laserdisc.

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    4. Re:None of the Samsung Players will work. by karnal · · Score: 1

      WHERE??? e-mail me karnal@excite.com.....

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    5. Re:None of the Samsung Players will work. by MageWyn · · Score: 1

      When I said Dual Layer, I meant the technology used to make the disc both DVD and DVD-ROM... The affected Samsung players can't handle DVD-ROMs... And I knew there had to be somebody out there who liked Monty Python as much as I do. :) "Ni!"

  27. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DVD has twice the resolution of VHS, which is mainstream there, but it's not "good enough" to be mainstream there. Get you head out of your koodo, man. You're not making any sense.

  28. Video signal piped through VCR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure if this is the same issue - when I first got my Panasonic A110, I piped the video through the VCR and from there into my TV. Worked fine for about a week - then suddenly the video would start darkening dramatically, then returning to normal, every few seconds. Didn't realize at the time they've got the copy-protection stuff built in, to prevent you from daisy-chaining devices and making tapes of your DVDs. Rehooking the video-out to one of the other video-ins on the TV did the trick. Just a thought.

    1. Re:Video signal piped through VCR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try a Macrovision protection remover box if you want to back up your DVDs to VHS. Still legal (at least in the US), just Macrovision usually patents the ways around their signal destruction methods, making it illegal to build and sell that specific method of removing it. You can build your own, if you want to... Try searching for "Macrovision FAQ" on altavista.

  29. Wired section for Slashdot? by shr · · Score: 3
    I noticed that the URL for this story is: Why is "slashdot" in the link? The same story also appears at This doesn't appear to be to avoid load, so is this just a way to count where people are coming from? If so, do you think there is any way we can find out what portion of their hits come from slashdot?

    Of course if enough people follow the stripped link I give, we will end up slashdotting their data to hell; lol

    1. Re:Wired section for Slashdot? by dmacon · · Score: 1

      The corp. behind slashdot probably gets a few cents for the traffice hi sends to Wired. An
      associate program of sorts. It is only a matter
      of time before GoTo.com is the preffered search
      engine on slashdot.org :-(


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    2. Re:Wired section for Slashdot? by Thomas+Charron · · Score: 1

      I believe that they use that field as a marker for where the people coming in come from. Perhaps they have some add agreement for so many click-thru's from stories, they get banner add space?

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    3. Re:Wired section for Slashdot? by drwiii · · Score: 1
      Tracking where hits are coming from is usually the job of a Referer header, so this is probably a way to get dough out of ads or something. I just hope this doesn't mean Slashdot/Andover will "prefer" to use Wired story links over any other site's story links.

      Of course, that's all just a guess on my part..

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    4. Re:Wired section for Slashdot? by andi75 · · Score: 1

      Even if you follow the stripped link, they will still know you come from slashdot, since browsers normally include the Referrer-URL in der HTTP-Request. Of course, some proxies (like junkbuster) remove these referrers.
      Since the amount of junkbuster users (you normally recognise them because junkbusters default browser id is Netscape 3.01Gold on 68k Macs) is almost null on my site (and I target mainly linux users), this url-modifying stuff is quite unnecessary.

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    5. Re:Wired section for Slashdot? by wergild · · Score: 1

      I noticed that you can put in anything you want in place of slashdot, and even another directory after it and the page will still load. Wired News has some strange things going on.....

  30. Re:My Linux box can't either :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [Nelson]: Ha, ha!

  31. Question and stupidity. by flamingdog · · Score: 1

    Is this a hardware problem or is it the DVD itself?? You'd think they would know that they would be selling TONS of copies of this great movie, so they should have tested the damn thing in all environments. This shows a complete lack of thoughtfulness for the wide spectrum of people who would be buying this movie. And there is no spoon.

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    1. Re:Question and stupidity. by logicTrAp · · Score: 1

      It's a series of hardware problems. The disc is apparently completely conformant but really pushing the envelope on the spec - less well tested players have problems with it.

      Even some players that work with it have some problems - my Toshiba 2109 is very sluggish at responding to keypresses at the (fully animated) root menu.

      Something like this is probably a good thing in the long term - having a title like The Matrix which is extremely popular show these problems *forces* the manufacturers to fix it. You can bet if the DVD that exposed this was "Universal Soldier XII: The Return (Again)" that it wouldn't be getting the attention it is.

  32. RCA player. by gweeks · · Score: 1

    I had problems with this on one of the first gen RCA players. I don't remember the model number of my player, but the player completely locked up. I reset the player and it played the scene fine. I've had the player for about a year now and figure I'll probably replace it in another year. These sorts of things happen early in the technology curve.

    Greg Weeks

  33. ding by drwiii · · Score: 1
    My RCA DVD player has no problems with it.. Watched it 5 times last weekend just for "quality control". Yeah, that's the ticket.

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    1. Re:ding by Lord+Byron · · Score: 1

      I watched it on my RCA DVD player (RC5220P), and it worked perfectly...with one exception. During the layer switch (When they're going to see the oracle, right after they step out of the building), there was a slight pause. Otherwise, it was perfect.

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  34. Pioneer 525 works perfectly by backtick · · Score: 1

    The white rabbit stuff is wonderful, commentary and audio-only tracks are great, and the movie plays and searches nice and fast. For me, this is one of the best DVD's as far as features goes that I own! Haven't tested it in the PC DVD player yet, but the pioneer works great!

  35. Re:Criterion Collection by Admiral+Mouse · · Score: 1

    I own about 10 Criterion titles (about 1/3 of my DVD collection right now) and I must say, they produce some DAMN FINE discs.

    Their release of "Armageddon" can't be beat, plus they do extra-cool stuff like director's cut editions of "Brazil" and "Robocop".

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  36. Re:How about with Creative PC-DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had the skipping problem with a DVD I rented once. I popped the sucker out and looked at it, and found it to be covered with fingerprints and scratches and stuff. I cleaned it up and tried
    again and it worked fine. This is with my Sony DVP-S330 (I have a DTS/DD amp so I didn't buy a player with a decoder). I have played the normal and "White Rabitt" tracks on my Matrix disc so far, and had no problems. Maybe the disc was dirty or something? Or maybe that's where the
    2nd layer kicks in and your player software can't
    handle it...

  37. Re:Got a Panasonic A120 by emag · · Score: 1

    Well, just got done watching The Matrix. Either I don't remember as much of the movie as I thought, or there weren't any playback problems. Hell, I couldn't even tell where the layer switch took place. The *only* complaint I have is that the closing credits were noticably distorted, and I think that's mostly due to the crappy, cheap-ass, coax-only TV I have (so the Panny A120 is coming in through the VCR). I suspect that if I got something decent, it'd display w/o many problems.

    Hopefully others with the A120 have been having similar experiences despite the reports to the contrary.

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  38. Matrix DVD on Sigma (windoze 98) by Camarones · · Score: 1

    I'm using Pioneer 6X SCSI DVD-rom, Hollywood + decoder (Win98 blech.....) Overall, it works flawlessly for me, both on-screen and out to the TV, but I noticed that when I have the main menu playing full-screen (SVGA @ 1024x768) I get these funky green noise/bars about 1" up the bottom of the screen... doesn't do it for TV-out, I suspect its a problem with the hardware, not the disc. Such is life in Windoze... I can't wait for Sigma to get off their asses and produce a linux-friendly card... The only reason I have windows is play games and watch DVDs... grumble grumble...

  39. Re:No problems--except follow the white rabbit...! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i don't get the white rabbit stuff at all.. ALL of the other features play fine on my creative dxr2 2x player.. the movie plays fine in this mode but no "white rabbit" ever shows up... is there any trick.. play it twice, you say?

  40. Re:Creative 5x dxr2 problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verunca from willy wonka: But daddy, I wanna follow the white rabbit NOW... verunca damnit this is the only problem i have and i have an OLD creative dxr2 and 2x player system..

  41. DVD on computer works, almost... by paleck · · Score: 1

    THe only troubles that I have had on the Matrix DVD is when you are looking at the special features menu. If you choose the Cast & Crew option then the movie ends and you have to start over. Other than that everyting else works fine. I am using a Pioneer DVD-303S.

  42. I can deal by jad4 · · Score: 1

    I have a JVC XV-511BK, and the only problem the Matrix DVD gives it is about a 10 second lag time on the top level menu. Playback was flawless.

  43. Fact: Laserdisc outperforms DVD. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, the laserdisc is superior to the DVD video-wise. It is regularly mentioned in A/V magazines that the DVD compression loses a SMALL amount of quality. However, I don't think the laserdisc allows as many options, and I don't know about the audio side of things... Hence the DVD's greater success.

  44. Flaky behavior during playback by Gene77 · · Score: 1
    I haven't tried the Matrix on my PC, but I also bought a Pioneer DV-414 player to hook into my very generous entertainment center and there noticed it to fuzz-out several times toward the beginning of the movie. Funny, though-- if I skipped back a little bit and played through that part again, it worked fine.

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    1. Re:Flaky behavior during playback by Ryan+McCowan · · Score: 1

      That's odd. I have a 414 too, and it's worked flawlessly every time. I got mine this summer though - maybe it has newer firmware or something?

  45. Re:Matrix DVD by toni · · Score: 1

    UK TV is a better resolution than US, of course, and so are UK (Region 2 DVD)'s.

    when idiots start telling that american TV has a much higher framerate (29.97 versus 25), think about this: What good will it do when all the movies are made in 35mm, 24 frames per second format anyway?

  46. Wanna buy the DVD but not the DVD player.. by MikeFM · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know if anyone offers the service of selling me a legal copy of this on DVD and making me a copy to VHS so I can watch it already. I'm putting off buying a DVD player until the prices plunge a lil more but I don't want to wait until December to buy a VHS copy of the Matrix. Doesn't 'fair use' make it legal for me to buy a copy of my own DVD onto a VHS tape by someone who owns both and can do the copy for me?

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  47. Creative 5x dxr2 problems by BMonger · · Score: 1

    I have a Creative 5x DVD drive with the dxr2 decoder card. When I play the
    matrix DVD everything seems to work fine except for two things. While I am able
    to start the movie by clicking on the "Follow the white rabbit" feature a white rabbit
    never shows up. This happens in both the PCFriendly DVD player and the Creative
    DVD player softwares. Also when playing the audio commentary track one of the
    male voices is ridiculously soft. I played the DVD on my parents DVD player and
    the voices were all fine. This problem was also in both DVD software players I
    own. Can either of these problems be fixed?

    1. Re:Creative 5x dxr2 problems by Felix+Da+Rat · · Score: 1

      Don't know of a fix, I'm just happy to know I'm not the only person with this problem.

      Felix.

  48. Matrix DVD by mong · · Score: 1

    Not quite ON topic I guess, but; Will The Matrix eventually be released on video? I get conflicting stories you see. One says "No", one says "it already is in the States", and the other says "It will, but not until the DVD has stopped selling real well".

    I'd imagine the last one to be true myself.

    And I,(this may be Flame Bait) don't want to get a DVD because I don't think theres's much of a future for it. Sorry!

    Mong.

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    1. Re:Matrix DVD by JDLazarus · · Score: 1

      I am still slightly wary of DVD for it's single downfall: It's inability to record data (without paying close to $500 for a DVDROM and $5000 for a DVD Burner)Once those fall to an acceptable price, I will be all up for it. (I currently DO own a DVD drive I got for the acceptable price of $150)

      I'm just waiting for the day when CDs are phased out and there are DVD players in cars... basically, just plays the audio track and if you take the disc home, you can pop it in your DVD player and watch video too... and for the niffy expensive cars, you have a TV in there too to decode to video. Anyhow... $0.02 placed.

    2. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      " I live in the UK, we're a very backward place! "
      I too live in the UK. It doesn't seem very backward to me.

      " No seriously, here in the UK, electronics (and everything else) are pretty expensive. "
      Hello? DVD players are cheaper than most VCRs these days.

      " Only the very expensive machines [PCs] come with DVD "
      This gets worse! Hey, guess what mong? You don't have to use a PC to play DVDs. There is this new product (which you may not have heard of yet) called a DVD player, which is similar in appearance and concent to a VCR (but without the record facilities). You connect it to your Television (you have heard of those, I presume? They are where you watch your videos, remember?).
      You can buy a reasonable DVD player from 150 quid these days.

      All the video rental shops and video sales shops round here stock large quantities of DVDs (>33% of their sherlf space on average).

    3. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. That's short sighted. All of the video stores I go to are already 25% DVD and growing. Where do you live???

    4. Re:Matrix DVD by mong · · Score: 1

      Valid point. UK T.V is much better resoloution than US T.V. And now with Digital, we're miles ahead. When I watch something on video (brand new Mitsubishi video player), the difference between a video and a T.V broadcast is massive.

      I got told that DVD is similar in quality to S-VHS. Anyone know if this is true?

      We're RIGHT off topic now.

      Mong.

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    5. Re:Matrix DVD by Jungleland · · Score: 1

      I also live in the UK .

      >Video stores will not stock much in the way of DVD here

      My local Video Library stocks DVD for rent.
      Almost all the stores that sell VHS also sell DVD.

      >I mean, only about 3.5 houses in 20 has a PC of any kind (I read that someplace). Only the very expensive machines come with DVD, also we all tend to use 14/15 monitors, which aren't too nice for video.

      You seem to think DVD is only used on PCs, You can buy stand alone players that plug into your TV.

    6. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry... but I really have to make a few corrections here (I really hate to do this, but, the inaccuracy is killing me). #1 Tvs' can have any resolution they want not just 525 or 625 (just like a monitor). #2 VHS does 240 lines of res. not 200. #3 DVD does 500 lines of res. not 625 and above (as I side note, lines of resolution has nothing to do will picture quality. Take a look at some of your bargin basement/1st gen/'ol school kung fu dvds' for proof). #4 NO, I repeat, *NO* consumer product had Sonys' SDDS digital format. It is only for theatrical releases (Though you did get the 8 channel bit right, except it's more like a 7.1). Please don't get this rumor started. #5 (The part you missed, I must give props to LD since without them we would still just have video tapes... and those of us whom require better quality must insist on it) Laserdisc has 420 lines of res.... Laserdisc copies have always been treated to a better quality print and handled better in their transfer. So far, I haven't *REALLY* seen this type of treatment for DVDs'. This is the reason LD costs more (on average), than DVD. We have to make sure DVDs' get respectable prints. Sorry, again, that I had to rip apart your post (you obviously know that tape sucks, so your ahead of most consumers anyway). But I hate disinformation. later, dan-

    7. Re:Matrix DVD by AndyL · · Score: 1

      But that still doesn't mean that there's "No Future" in VHS.

      I mean, if you had bought Beta, you'd regret it now, right?

    8. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But that still doesn't mean that there's "No Future" in VHS.

      I mean, if you had bought Beta, you'd regret it now, right?

    9. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on monkey boy. You know there is nothing in the U.K. that is better than anything in the good ol' USA. Ask your Ryder Cup boys.

      Brought to you by someone with too much time on his hands and the letter Q.

    10. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >And now with Digital, we're miles ahead.

      That depends on which channels you are watching. They are able to give a channel more or less bandwidth depending on what they are showing. A movie channel for example may be broadcast at much higher quality, whearas the same companies DIY channel can be broadcast at much lower quality.

      >I got told that DVD is similar in quality to S-VHS. Anyone know if this is true?

      As I understand it DVD is significantly better than S-VHS 50-100 lines better

    11. Re:Matrix DVD by Saige · · Score: 1

      And I,(this may be Flame Bait) don't want to get a DVD because I don't think theres's much of a future for it. Sorry!

      I'd have a hard time believing that there's no future in DVD at this point in time.

      Look how the CD became such a staple - and DVD players and discs have sold better than CDs did after the same amount of time on the market. In other words, it's getting higher acceptance than CDs did.

      Look at your local electronics store. Best Buy and Circuit City, for example, have been constantly expanding their DVD shelf space and selection. Some dept. store chains like Target now have them right by the videos, with plenty of shelf space. They're part of every movie ad now - "Now Available on VHS and DVD". There's a constant re-release of older movies on the format.

      With Disney releasing their cartoons on DVD, I think that every major studio is now releasing movies on the format, and many minor ones. I don't think that there is ANY doubt left that DVD is going to be the CD of video - the next standard. I wouldn't be suprised if, in the next year, Blockbuster starts stocking DVDs along with VHS in most/all their stores, right with the VHS, instead of in a special section like the ones that have it now. I also won't be suprised to see it start taking up equal shelf space with VHS in most electronics stores.
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    12. Re:Matrix DVD by Atari+V8 · · Score: 1

      While some people wait for the digital television revolution in the next 2-3 years, I'll enjoy my DVD/Dolby Digital 5.1 home theater system now! Not to mention the copyright battles that will take place for the HDTV DVD of the future. In about 2-3 years I'll have a nice, large, permanent video library that I don't have to stand on end to keep from going bad. -- "I think we got the best one" H.I. McDonnough

    13. Re:Matrix DVD by Criterion · · Score: 1

      I would have to say that the vast majority of people that watch dvd movies, use a dvd player hooked into their home theatre systems, not sitting at their desk watching them on their computers. Everybody I know, that has a home theater setup (just about everybody I know) has at LEAST 1 dvd player, NOT counting the one that may be in their computer. Sorry, wait as long as you like, DVD is here to stay for a while. It has ALREADY become the standard. There is no downside. You pay $150 more or less, then movies cost pretty much the same amount (just a little more, but well worth it) as VHS, they don't degrade, the sound is worlds apart, as is the picture... so you can't record wrestling on monday night on it, or whatever.. just dust off the old vcr and fire it up if that's something you just gotta do. I really VERY RARELY record on my vcr, I use it to watch my video collection, (which is fast becoming a DVD collection) and that's about it. If you want to sound like a video elitest, go right ahead, but that elite hardware is for SURE not going to become a standard anytime soon. And just for curiosities sake, how many studio's are releasing movies on a better format? I thought so. Have fun.
      Sounds like a bitter DIVX fan to me.

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    14. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, according to amazon.com A collectors edition will be available in both widescreen and standard formats for VHS.

      They're taking pre-orders now. Price is $13.99

      Standard
      Widescreen

    15. Re:Matrix DVD by sirket · · Score: 2

      on video november 21st

    16. Re:Matrix DVD by Gene77 · · Score: 1
      I see that they're renting it on video and selling it on DVD here in the States. I haven't seen anyone sell it on video. DVD stands to gain from such cool, sensory-intense movies as the Matrix, so I wouldn't be surprised if people wanted movies like the Matrix to only sell on DVD, and it would make sense that they can't not milk the revenues in video rental.

      ...but then again, many things make sense to me and still simply aren't true :)

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    17. Re:Matrix DVD by Gene77 · · Score: 1
      I see that they're renting it on video and selling it on DVD here in the States. I haven't seen anyone sell it on video. DVD stands to gain from such cool, sensory-intense movies as the Matrix, so I wouldn't be surprised if people wanted movies like the Matrix to only sell on DVD, and it would make sense that they can't not milk the revenues in video rental.

      ...but then again, many things make sense to me and still are simply not true :)

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    18. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're renting it on tape at Steve's TV, Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. I suppose that means you could buy it on tape if you wanted to... But why? VHS sucks. Your TV does either 525 or 625 lines of resolution. VHS does about 200. DVD does all 625 and more (and up to 8 channel surround, using SDDS). Why stick with the flaky VHS tape that can be destroyed by simply leaving it on top of an unsheilded speaker? Or ruined with a 6 foot fall. I've rented enough crap VHS movies that won't track properly to hate the format.

      In other words, saying there's not much future for DVD is like saying there's not much future for AC power in the late 1800's... DVD has everything going for it except a high market share. This will increase, just as the 80x86 IBM PC had a _very_ small market share when it first came out, people didn't think it would go any where (Why would we ever need that 640k ram?). Look at it 17 years later...

    19. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UK (PAL): 625 lines, 25 frames/50 feilds per second refresh.
      US (NTSC): 525 lines, 30 frames/60 feilds per second refresh.

      Both systems use the same bandwidth, and in fact, if you have an old TV with a V-Hold adjustment and composite in, you can watch a PAL signal in B/W on an NTSC TV because the standards are so similar for that... If you don't beleive me, try it. If you only do it for a moment, you aren't gonna blow anything up (I think).

      Depends what you like. Less flicker, or more resolution? Although the slow decay phosphors do make up for the flicker...

    20. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, since we're discussing opinions here. The Matrix rocks! Period. It has some serious things to tell society.

      And BTW: 2001 was the best Sci-Fi movie I've seen.

    21. Re:Matrix DVD by mong · · Score: 1

      I live in the UK, we're a very backward place!

      No seriously, here in the UK, electronics (and everything else) are pretty expensive. I'd hazard that less than 1% of the population has access to DVD. I mean, only about 3.5 houses in 20 has a PC of any kind (I read that someplace). Only the very expensive machines come with DVD, also we all tend to use 14/15 monitors, which aren't too nice for video.

      Video stores will not stock much in the way of DVD here I think. Not in the near future anyway.

      Mong.


      Mong.

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    22. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since we're getting picky:

      I said _about_ 200 lines of resolution for VHS. Not exactly. I wasn't trying to set limits on TVs, but I will say this: Virtually no (I said virtually) consumer TVs can do more than 525 lines NTSC, 625 PAL. This is it. Period. Maybe than can do less (VHS proves it, I suppose). But why would we argue on that point? I guess instead of "does" in my sentence (which did sound kinda final) I meant "does a maximum of".

      If DVDs only do 500 lines of resolution, why the "enhanced for widescreen" notes on the widescreen editions (all DVDs I've seen are widescreen)? Is this just for inaccuracy?

      But agreed, DVDs can be transferred badly, but this goes for everything. Even VHS can suck worse than average (wow... I guess you just get snow then, huh? >;-). But, up to now, I have only seen one DVD of completely unacceptable quality: Blade Runner. Everyone looked like they had their face on a barbeque... Ugh....

      Ok, so perhaps DVDs don't do SDDS yet (I've never seen such a decoder for the home market [but heard the rumours], so I'm sure you are right). The fact that needs to be appreciated is that they _could_ have it, and probably will once DVD and home theater is really big (like cellular telephones are now). I'm sure Sony will love to step up the line someday... 6 channels (or if you want to be perfect, 5 full frequency, 1 sub channel) will be ok for now...

      But hey, I don't want to get picky with another VHS hater... I mean, the enemy of your enemy is your friend, right? :-)

    23. Re:Matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. I had no idea. That sucks. Well, here in the states, DVD is definately here to stay. I wouldn't worry abot investing in DVD. More than likely, if it's big in the US, it's probably going to expand evrywhere, eventually.

  49. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by jpatters · · Score: 1

    You are the average idiot the industry is seeking for. Which normal person can be happy to pay more for a laserdisc which has poorer sound and none special features at all.

    Excuse me? I am the one here who is not willing to purchase a new player every eighteen months. For your information, the digital audio encoding on the LD is *identical* to the encoding on the DVD. See below about the special features.

    Do you have DD 5.1?

    My LD player supports that and has the digital outputs for when I decide to get a receiver that supports DD 5.1, and most of my discs have audio encoded in that format.

    Do you have Special Commentary Track?
    Do you have all the other Features?


    Yes, The Matrix LD does have the commentary track as well as the behind the scenes documentary. It does not have the whole web site on it, but who cares about that?

    No? Ok, then be happy with your overpriced LD and shut up.

    The LD has superior packaging and *actually works* on every laserdisc player ever made, including the ones from the nineteen-seventies.

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  50. 10-bit Vs. 8-bit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is all because The Matrix requires a 10-bit dac instead of a 8-bit dac. I returned my DVD player b/c of it. No-one said that they are going to 10 bit.

    1. Re:10-bit Vs. 8-bit by C.Lee · · Score: 0

      >Not true at all. Runs fine on 8 bit DAC's. I can only imagine the >poor clerks at Circuit City having to listen to your drivel...

      Nope. I know people who works in the electronics department at K-mart and Wal-mart and there are problems with the Matrix DVD and certain DVD players. They've been instructed to give refunds to customers.

    2. Re:10-bit Vs. 8-bit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not true at all. Runs fine on 8 bit DAC's. I can only imagine the poor clerks at Circuit City having to listen to your drivel...

    3. Re:10-bit Vs. 8-bit by mong · · Score: 1

      Lemme guess, the ppl who publish The Matrix are owned by one of the big electronics corporations? Lemme guess, they think we should all have 10bit players. Lemme guess, they think "Well, The Matrix was a big hit amongst Geeks", Lemme guess, they go "We'll make Geeks buy these 10bit players by putting the'r favourite movie on this format".

      I'm good at guessing, me.

      Mong.

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    4. Re:10-bit Vs. 8-bit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually went up there trying to return the DVD and when I tried it on all of their 8bit DAC DVD players none of them would work. I trid it on all of their 10bit DAC DVD players it worked fine. Makes sense that it's a DAC problem. If it's not then what is it?

  51. Re:Hmmm, I never had this problem with laserdisc.. by nedron · · Score: 1
    I own over 1000 laserdiscs and have purchased around 40 DVD's. Of the laserdiscs, I've had to replace 4 (one was actually broken in shipping).

    Of the DVD's, I've had to have seven replaced for various and sundry problems (can anyone say "The Black Hole"?) and three were never acceptable from an artifacting standpoint (take a look at "The Best Years of Our Lives".) Don't try to say that I don't know what I'm talking about. I managed a movie theatre for many years and have projected many of the movies I own and have attempted to buy on DVD. I know what they look like. In several cases, I also own the LD version of the titles for which I could not get an acceptable version on DVD.

    I'll say again, the potential for problems in DVD is significantly higher than LD.

    I will also admit that I'm very picky. Things that drive me to distraction (artifacting and edge enhancement) don't bother many of my friends. But, they are coming from VHS and DVD is obviously better in that scenario.

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    * As is generally the case, my opinions do not reflect those of my employer.
  52. No problems here... by ALG · · Score: 1

    I have a Sony DVP7000 and have had 0 problems.

  53. Re:G3 350 w DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hey, just so you know. I have the same computer, 350 w/DVD, and I've been running OS 9, and the Matrix works just fine. Maybe they've fixed it a bit?

  54. Looping Problem... by wilkinsm · · Score: 1

    If you let the (rather cool) title page play all the way thru to the end, it loops to the middle of the title (skipping the opening title.) Problem is that when it loops for the second time, my Creative 6x/dxr3 card gets stuck at the end, (probably because of a strange looping / timing command.) The only way to fix it then is to totally reboot the computer.

    Does this happen with other players/cards or is this a Creative only problem? (I'm on the latest revs.)

    Also, the embeded DVD player gets messed up too easily. If you use it, don't touch the controls or it will seize up.

  55. The MUSIC ONLY Audio track is COOL. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This feature is worth the price of the DVD alone. I wish other movies did this.

    1. Re:The MUSIC ONLY Audio track is COOL. by cje · · Score: 2

      I wish other movies did this.

      Some do.

      Blade and Pleasantville come to mind.

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  56. PC-Friendly, my a$$ by phish · · Score: 1

    I tried it out on my machine which has a Hi-Val (Pioneer) DVD drive. The pc friendly thingy attempts to do a soft-DVD playback on the movie which causes the playback to be jittery and basically intolerable.

    When I played it with the DVD player software from the ATI card, it worked fine, except that the 'special features' menu item did not work.

    1. Re:PC-Friendly, my a$$ by Julius+X · · Score: 1

      FYI- The ATI DVD software is a software decoder, but uses special features of the video card to make it seem better....but the decoding is still done by your CPU. As for the Special Features problem, try this: from the main DVD menu, go to the Audio setup(In the Matrix menu-where you can pick subtitles, etc in the movie), and then try the Special Features...it doesn't freeze when I do it that way. It's bizarre, but it works!

      Cliff Palmer, Jr.

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  57. Hope not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My copy's on its way from reel.com. It better work. I've seen some discs that wouldn't play properly (or had errors) when played on my old Magnavox, but they played just fine on my Sony.

  58. Re:How about with Creative PC-DVD? by shadowlight1 · · Score: 1

    I have an older Creative Labs Encore DXR2 DVD 2x.
    It's up to Encore DXR3 with 6x DVD now, but the latest player and firmware for the 2x drive works FINE. I experienced no problems or choppiness while watching The Matrix on my CLabs DVD drive, and have had very few/no problems with it since their 3.0 player came out.
    All the hidden features work, and are much easier to access with a mouse. I also have and recommend the Cambridge Soundworks 5:1 Digital Speakers, as they REALLY strut their stuff on the Matrix's AC-3 encoded sound.

  59. Re:It's not ju jitsu, it's kung fu. by mong · · Score: 1

    Yeah Yeah, now would any of yo BJJ people like to go up against a top class Muay Thai fighter? Ha!

    In a recent(ish) publicity event, ten of the worlds best Kung Fu Masters, met ten of the best Muay Thai Fighters. The results?

    Nine of the Kung Fu people got knocked out in the opening round. The 10th Kung Fu guy submitted in the 2nd.

    I'm not being all "My form is better than yours", but when you have to mess somebody up, Muay Thai is the weapon of choice :)

    Now, if this isn't offtopic, I don't know what is!

    Mong.

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  60. I had problems. by ChiefArcher · · Score: 1

    I have a 6x 3rd generation DVD player..
    It jumped a few times in the movie and then the audio was off track a few times.. It really sucks..... but O well.. I really like the movie.

    Chief Archer

  61. Got a Panasonic A120 by emag · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to actually watch The Matrix yet. Luckily it's within the 30 days (been a week today since I got the DVD, a week tomorrow for the player), so I might have to take it back. I'll be watching this weekend to verify the (hopefully nonexistent) problems with my copy.

    I'm really disappointed that there have been reported problems with this player, since it seems like it only came out a short time ago, and the reviews I read made it sound like it compared very favorably against higher-end DVD players.

    It's even more distressing to hear that Enemy of the State is showing problems to. Is every DVD I want to get going to do this?

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    1. Re:Got a Panasonic A120 by Paul+Carver · · Score: 1

      I don't remember the model number of my Panasonic, but I think it's the A120. I got my copy of The Matrix yesterday and watched tracks 1&2 this morning. There didn't seem to be any problems. I didn't see any problems with the menus either.

    2. Re:Got a Panasonic A120 by cancrman · · Score: 1

      I've got a Panny A110 and on certain parts I noticed the audio dropping out for just a split second (happened about 5 times, can't remember exactly where). I thought that the A120 was supposed to be OK. From what I understand the problem comes from the inclusion of the DVD-ROM material which makes this a "hybrid" disc. Lots of players have been having problems with this (and other hybrid discs such as Lost in Space and the fouth disc from The Earth to the Moon series). For a list of players with problems go to The Digital Bits.

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  62. No Problems on my end... by Keeper · · Score: 1

    I own a Panasonic A-110 DVD player and had zero problems watching the movie (I think I've played it through at least 2 dozen times -- I might be a bit obcessed ;).

    The video quality was always superb. The extra features/intro menu shows some mpeg artifacts, but to be quite honest there is SO MUCH STUFF crammed on this disc it was probably done so they could fit it.

    The layer change appears to occure right after Morpheus and company begin their journey to see the oracle (the scene change between circling around the phone and leaving the building). It has to be one of the faster layer changes I've ever seen (which means they planned the layout of data rather well). The layer change took less than a second, where it normally takes between 2 to 5 seconds.

    Not once in my viewing did I see a glitch. The audio never popped. The extra features all worked wonderfully (the follow the white rabbit feature is an interesting idea ...).

    The only problem I had was stuff in my room was rattling a bit too much during some scenes (I had the volume turned up to such a level that it could be heard 5 floors down, so that's to be expected -- one of these days I'll get the guts to turn my amp up past the 4th notch ;).

    The problem isn't with the DVD. The problem is with the players that won't play it. Alot of the "this is why DVD's will never catch on" and the "shoulda gotten a laserdisc" talk is like saying "windoze crashes too much, shouldn't have bought an AMD chip" and "damn, shoulda gotten a mac instead".

    It's silly. DVD's are the best thing to happen to "home theatre" since VHS.

  63. Analog all the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    music in analog format sounds much better than the cold mechanical digital. Records (vinyl) has a much more warm natural tone.

    1. Re:Analog all the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Higher quality digital recording (ie. HDCD): 24 bit / 96 kbps, recorded from a professional record player with the master LP will sound better, unless you are a cyborg. In which case, I can't help you...

  64. Re:Taking The DVD Plunge? by Keeper · · Score: 1

    If the "black bars" really bother you that much, many DVD players have an option you can change which will force the movie to be full screen. It's the same thing you'd get from most VHS movies. (The panasonic A110 does anyway)

    That'll work for you until you are able to afford a tv that looks like a mini-movie screen :).

  65. Dell Inspiron 7000 by CoderJoe · · Score: 1

    My mom has a Dell Inspiron 7000 laptop with DVD and Lexonar HW decoder. when she tried to watch the disk, it wanted her to install PCFriendly, which she did. then, the DVD program that came with the laptop ceased working. put in any DVD, and the Dell player starts up but won't play the disk. even after "uninstalling" PCFriendly and re-installing the dell program, it still won't run properly. now she's got to use the PCFriendly player to watch any disk.

    what a pain. Probably the only way to get it to work right again is to wipe the machine clean and use the rescue disk.

    (btw, yes it runs Win98.)

  66. Re:No problems by demon · · Score: 1

    Yea, there's that audio track... but there's also a third audio track (marked as English in the language selection menu) that is a music-only soundtrack. I haven't yet listened to it, tho. Anyone else listened to it? How is it?

    Hmm. Music-only soundtrack with subtitles... could be interesting.

    BTW, has anyone else had a problem with the Matrix DVD where the "White Rabbit" overlay for certain scenes where you're supposed to be able to jump to alternate views only shows up the second time it's been played while your player (or machine, in my case - I bought a Creative Dxr3 kit) is on? I don't think it's _supposed_ to be that way.

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  67. Re:How about with Creative PC-DVD? by Felix+Da+Rat · · Score: 1

    I've found one problem, might just be my lack of attention span, but I just can't see the white rabbit during that special feature. I'm running a one year old Creative PC-DVD x5 as I recall.

    Felix

  68. RCA 5220 by Chirik · · Score: 1

    I bought a RCA 5220 DVD player back in May or June or so, for about $280, and while it's not a high-end DVD player, it has played every DVD I've put in it without problem, including The Matrix. The only downside to this player is the same as any low-end player - it only has one laser, and may erase recordable CD's, but for the price, I've been very happy with it.

  69. More Problems With 'The Matrix' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here are the problems I've had with 'The Matrix' DVD:

    1. People are buying it in droves even though it is a dreary martial arts film married to a bunch of warmed-over Gibson-esque ideas with a stylistic look that places it squarely in late 1987.

    2. Cronenberg's 'eXisitenZ' was about a thousand times more intelligent, but practically no one who reads Slashdot will buy that DVD when it comes out - making one wonder just how smart /.ers really are...

    Iago

  70. It does NOT suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you on crack? Thats perhaps the best soundtrack for a movie I've ever heard. It may not be your cup of tea, but if you happen to like that style of music...it rocks.

    1. Re:It does NOT suck by Endymion · · Score: 1

      WTF? How could the soundtrack POSSIBLY be considered good, when, after seeing the movie four times, I STILL can't find the MINISTRY song! Only on the CD soundtrack you say? But WHY! Arrrrg!

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    2. Re:It does NOT suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Ministry song is on their new album.

  71. Re:1st Generation Players. by Faw · · Score: 1

    Yes, is true. I month ago I bought the Yamaha C900 (DVD-Changer) and it won't play the Matrix and some chapters of the Record of Lodoss War (anime). I'm really pissed.

  72. Re:Future is Analog Video Cassette(AVC)?? by KyleCordes · · Score: 1

    Considering what happened to DIVX, I wouldn't count on widespread consumer acceptance of Video-On-Demand as a substitute for retail purchases.

  73. no trouble by puppet · · Score: 1

    My wife and I just watched The Matrix and loved it. No problems on our player which is the only piece of AV equipment I own that will actually lock up and require me to unplug it to reset it.

  74. Hints for computer DVD players by logicTrAp · · Score: 4

    This page has some hints for people with computer DVD players who are having problems: http://www.pcfriendly.co m/support/title/matrix/default.htm The PC Friendly people have been collecting information on problems in set-top players as well and say they'll keep people posted.

  75. Re:My Linux box can't either :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm still waiting for Linux to really support DVD Maybe this movie will get some momentum going in that direction?

  76. I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by jpatters · · Score: 0

    Pardon me while I laugh at all of the folks who are dumping their entire Laserdisc collections on eBay to replace them with DVD's. I just got my LD copy of The Matrix which I expect to function flawlessly, just like my Star Wars LD's.

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    1. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by TBC · · Score: 1

      Laserdisc has had Dolby-Digital capability for several years. My Hybrid DVD/LD player has support for it. Agreed that you don't get the special features and commentary, but I've also NEVER seen a picture encoding breakdown while watching a laserdisc.

      Also, for the record, my DVD player (Pioneer DVL-700) was one of the very early DVD players, and has had no problems with either Lost in Space, or The Matrix.

    2. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by Saige · · Score: 1

      The only thing LD has going for it is that some movies were released as a criterion collection (which I hardly know what that means) and will probably never be released that way again

      They're already doing the Criterion Collection with DVDs also. I picked up Armageddon from it, and it had 2 dicsc worth of stuff. A bunch of making of... stuff, all the tv spots, outtakes, etc. And it said it was the Director's Cut of the movie - however, I didn't see any difference from when I saw it at the theater.

      There's a web site for the Criterion Collection somewhere (don't have the URL handy). I know I really want to get Silence of the Lambs through it.


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    3. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by BugMaster+ChuckyD · · Score: 2

      Im a big fan of DVD, i have a PC DVD ROM drive (the only 2 things win98 is good for is games and DVDs) and a Sony DVD player for my TV.

      Ive never used LD, but I have to say that LDs often have commentry tracks and other special features found on DVD. In fact alot of DVDs are just copies of the LDs. On several of my DVDs (for instance on Phantasm and on Criterion's Brazil commentary tracks the director mentions doing the commentary "for this laser disc")

      LDs have an analogue sound track which, depending on your A/D hardware and the type of encoding on the DVD may or may not sound better than the DVD. I have a friend hwo has both DVD & LD who swears that his LDs sound alot better than DVD.

    4. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by bugzilla · · Score: 1

      Also, for the record, my DVD player (Pioneer DVL-700) was one of the very early DVD players, and has had no problems with either Lost in Space, or The Matrix.

      My DVL-700 also had no problems with the Matrix DVD. As far as commentary goes, I've been watching running commmentary on LD's for years before DVD was even conceived. I don't know about the Matrix LD having it or not, but whoever thinks that LD doesn't have some of these features (alternate languages, different audio tracks, special feature sections) probably believes that Bill and AOL invented the Internet.

    5. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are the average idiot the industry is seeking for. Which normal person can be happy to pay more for a laserdisc which has poorer sound and none special features at all.

      Do you have DD 5.1?
      Do you have Special Commentary Track?
      Do you have all the other Features?

      No? Ok, then be happy with your overpriced LD and shut up.

    6. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by L0rdJedi · · Score: 1

      Except that The Matrix LD is at least twice the size or maybe even 3x the size (bigger disc, takes up more space) and probably has to be flipped to get the extra features (I have no idea, I'm just guessing). It probably doesn't have the PC extras either, like the entire website on the disc (I could be completely wrong about this too). While I wouldn't replace (right away anyway) an entire collection of LDs with DVDs, I think the DVD format is far superior to LD. The only thing LD has going for it is that some movies were released as a criterion collection (which I hardly know what that means) and will probably never be released that way again, though I think with all the extra space DVDs have, these same movies might be released with the extra features and just not called criterion collection (though I did see an Alien Criterion Collection on DVD at Tower recently). The only reason I finally got a DVD player was for my computer, to replace my CD-ROM drive. I would have gotten one sooner, but Star Wars wasn't (and still isn't) on DVD. And I would be willing to bet that the Star Wars DVDs (when they are finally released) are going to kick the crap out of the Star Wars LDs (of which I have the big black boxed collectors edition).

    7. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by jedinite · · Score: 1

      >LDs have an analogue sound track which [snip]
      >may or may not sound better than the DVD.

      Anyone with a REAL DVD setup is using digital audio (digital coax, fiber optic, or 6 channel) from the DVD to the receiver, pumping out sound in Dolby Digital or (in rare cases) DTS. DVD's digital audio (especially when combined with S-video or (even better IMHO) component video) in this set-up blows away any Laserdisc I've ever heard. I understand everything in high-end A/V is pretty much preferential, but LD is a dead format. Many people try to argue, but it's dead (or at very least on its deathbed). DVD digital blows away analogue any day...

      I own an old Pioneer LD player and only use it for two series of movies: Star Wars Trilogy & Godfather Trilogy. Once they come out on DVD, the LD is gone...

      Check out this guide from MonsterCable regarding DVD, digital audio and your options.

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    8. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the other post in this thread. LD can do Dolby Digital, just like DVD...

    9. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by BugMaster+ChuckyD · · Score: 2

      Like I said I was just repeating what my friend said. My only point was YMMV.

      Personaly I take the digital out form my DVD player and pipe it through my Theta Colbalt D/A box and from there to my Linn amp. I don't even have a "receiver". It sounds pretty good to me.

    10. Re:I have a solution, and it is called Laserdisc! by jedinite · · Score: 1

      Yes, LD can do Dolby Digital. The important part of my post is the Digital Audio (which deals with the type of connector used) and the transport mechanism (digital vs. analog). Not the Dolby Digital portion. That's just a way of decoding the sound information once it gets to the receiver. I'm talking about HOW the sound gets TO the receiver.

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  77. Re:the future of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Shouldn't that be your $f(x)=1/x where x=50?
    Unless you weigh your opinion 10x more than everyone else's! :)

    that's my

    • ln x

    y
    + cos y


    for x = 7.5 and y = 2()

  78. Creative Dxr3 kit strangeness by demon · · Score: 1

    I've had just a couple minor oddities with my Dxr3 kit (one of which seems specific to "The Matrix")...

    First of all, when I unpause while connected to a TV, the image tends to do one of 2 things: go black-and-white or get jittery. I can make the weirdness go away by flipping the video back to the PC display, then back to TV output. (Seems to happen when watching widescreen format movies only.)

    Also, (more minor) when using the menus, the selection pointer will sometimes start out on something other than the first menu item, but if I press "Enter", it'll perform the action of the first menu item anyway.

    The other one is specific to "The Matrix": The "White Rabbit" overlay that is supposed to show up in some scenes doesn't show up until I play the movie a second time. Is this intended, or is this really a bug?

    Has anyone else experienced this? I'd just like to know if I'm mental, or what. (I did update the player software to the latest version from Creative's site.)

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    Max: "I'd be peeing my pants if I wore any!"
  79. Digital VHS by Head+Louse · · Score: 1

    I don't really want DVD either. for several reasons.

    You still can't record simply on DVD and DVD can't play or record full HDTV. DVD can only hold about 18gigs of data max and you need more like 40+gigs for HDTV quality. Digital VHS can already record and play back all 18 ATSC digital formats, including all variations of HDTV and SDTV with 1080 active lines of resolution. And of course it is backward compatible to normal VHS. It will be several years until they create a new version of DVD that can hold that much let alone allow you to record too.

    if you want to see one - panasonic makes a digital VHS player http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/vide o/pv_hd1000.htm

    p.s. there is also the fact that the only non-hollywood movies that ever come out on dvd are porn (hummm? faux grunting and moaning in Dolby digital surround sound)

    1. Re:Digital VHS by Quikah · · Score: 1

      It wil be several years before HDTV is fully deployed. It will be several years before most people have an HDTV capable vide monitor. HD-DVD players will most likely be backward compatible with regular DVD. So you can get a DVD now and enjoy the benefits now, or you can get your digital VHS and wait several years before you can get much use out of it. Digital VHS blows for archival, it wears out just like analog VHS. I want to be able to watch my movies in 20 years...
      Recordable DVD will come in a few years (there are already affordable DVD-RAM and DVD-R drives for PC).

      What are you talking about, non-hollywood movies? Umm, lets see, PI, BlairWitch, City of Lost Children (keeps getting postponed though dammit), Trainspotting, a whole plethora of Japanese animation, many different music releases, probably many more, I only know the ones I am interested in.

      And hey man, you can get some of that DVD porn in dts!!!! :)

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  80. Re:Taking The DVD Plunge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Anamorphic, I think that is.

    I think that ability has to be encoded into the data. And anamorphic
    is one of those things that result in complaints.

    I think.

  81. Re:It's not ju jitsu, it's kung fu. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try Silat. It's brutal, effective, and efficient. Eye gouging is legal and encouraged. The Silat fighter will destruct any limb you are dumb enough to offer him. Arm bars are breaks, leg locks are breaks, and takedowns are breaks. It incorporates hard direct lines that are superior to the easy, flowing sport takedowns of BJJ, and destructions to disable the muay thai attack.

  82. No problems with Creative under NT by Malc · · Score: 1

    I have this running fine under WINDOWS NT. It also seemed to work under win9x.

    Creative Encore 5x with Dxr3 and the latest drivers downloaded from Creative's web-site.

    Somebody earlier on complained about not being able to avoid the installation of the PcFriendly software... perhaps that person was new to computers? I have been able to install, unintstall it, avoid the installation, and even play the disk with Creative's player instead.

    If there are problems with the software DVD player, try with the DVD player that came with your hardware. Of course, you'll miss all of the cool features. Next, check your hardware manufacturer for updated firmware and software drivers. Also, have a look at the PC Friendly Matrix Help

    Gateway owners, your drives might be Matsushita, so check out Panasonic.

    BTW, if you want a good drive at a good price, and one that will work with NT, may I recommend Creative's PC-DVD Encore 5X DXR3 5Xdvd-ROM Drive DXR3 Decoder Board OEM starting at $128? The the slightly older drive is a faster CD-ROM than the newer model, but more importantly this comes with the newer decoder card. The NT drivers must be downloaded though.

  83. JVC non comp, no problem but PULP FICTION and MORE by m0nkeyb0y · · Score: 1

    I have had no problems on my JVC unit, but I can't seem to play Pulp Fiction or StarShip Troopers! Anyone else has a falty disk of either of those two? Mail me at bmccullo@gprep.org

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  84. Laserdisc outperforms DVD. by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
    A few notes:

    Many Laserdisc players have digital audio out these days. Laserdisc is returning to high-end models only, many of which play DVDs as well (without regions in some models! I'm assuming that this is because they are "Professional" models intended for reviewers and checking masters).

    From my experience, most LDs are mastered *much* nicer than DVDs. Yes, the DVD format can support a technically superior image. But the studios are putting out DVDs that are inferior to the LaserDisc versions, in my consumer experience.

    A big caveat here is that I am big into Science Fiction and Anime Fandom, so much of my knowledge of this is related to doing screen captures off of an RCA signal from six different DVD and Laserdisc players, and intensive examination of paused images. By and large, the Laserdisc media seems to be much better at answering "How many buttons does that character have on her shirt cuff" and other really anal questions. As an actual viewing experience (audio aside), I have no preference. And I use a big screen Sony monitor for a TV, so my output device is capable of demonstrating a difference.

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  85. call it flamebait, but it's true. by cthonious · · Score: 1

    BJJ does kick butt.

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  86. Re:How about with Creative PC-DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    works flawlessly on the dxr6.

  87. My formatting was bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oops. Proof that we all make mistakes, eh?
    ln x
    ---- + cos y
    y

    for x=7.5 and y = 2() ; result in cents.

  88. Re:No problems here...[Me too] by Malic · · Score: 1

    Same here. It works on my 7000.
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  89. If you have a samsung DVD Player by snikt · · Score: 1

    If you have a Samsung DVD Player they are working on making a special upgrade chip that they say will fix the problem and that they will upgrade their dvd players for free! I do have a Samsung ;-(....and needless to say...after returning the DVD twice...i called samsung. I was the first person at Best Buy that day to get it...when i went back...they had sold all 120 copies (in about 4 hours). I had to go to another store...on to find out that DVD didnt work either...bummer...o well..guess ill have to wait for the chip to come out.

  90. Re:No probs by KaosDG · · Score: 1

    Kick Ass! I got a similar setup...
    'cept Sony 5x DVD.
    only problem i had was Win98 crashed on me cuz i started an Unreal(tm) window at the same time. (it was an accident, i was trying to open something else)

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  91. I have a Toshiba 3109.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and the only thing I noticed is that menu response is sluggish... but I can navigate it all... just sometimes it does not respond on the first try. still the movie is such fun to watch... Chris

  92. Players under $300 by crow · · Score: 1

    I bought a Sony DVP-S330 for $288 including shipping from a company I found on Pricewatch. Circuit City had some Divx-disabled players for under $200, but I wouldn't touch one of them.

    One thing to watch out for with DVD players is that many (including my Sony) won't play CD-R media, so custom audio and video CDs are out. You'll need to be very careful in buying a DVD player if that matters to you.

  93. Re:It's not ju jitsu, it's kung fu. by cthonious · · Score: 1
    duh .. people spout this crap but the truth is that a grappler is in a better position over a striker to eye gouge and ear bite or whatever the fuck pussy move you can name.

    No one practices that shit because, well, you don't need to. It's not technique.

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  94. Re:It's not ju jitsu, it's kung fu. by cthonious · · Score: 1
    Well, Kung Fu isn't very good at all.

    From what I gather, Muay Thai seems to be the best striking.

    However, any striker who doesn't have any grappling abilities will simply get his ass kicked by almost any grappler; wrestling, BJJ, whatever.

    Other thing no one mentions: striking arts are much harder on your body. Most strikers burn out or get injured long before grapplers do. Some of the shit muay thai guys do is basically self mutilating machismo (kicking tree trunks with your shins, etc.).

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  95. Re:It just arrived by Julius+X · · Score: 1

    I have a Hitachi GD2000 and have no problems...just make sure your decoder is up to spec, I know there have been reported problems with ATI's Software player as well as XingDVD...

    Cliff Palmer, Jr.

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  96. My Troubles With the Matrix DVD by EXTomar · · Score: 1

    I was definately pumped about watching the Matrix on September 18(note that it was supposed to be out on the Sept 21 :-) ) but was somewhat shocked by all of the skipping. Of course, me and my roomate studied the problem because this was the first time my Pioneer DVL 700(or is DLV?) did anything like this.

    After somewhat extensive tweaking and studying, we basically boiled the problem down to one feature on the DVD: "Follow The White Rabbit". Everytime FtWR feature would kick in(even though you didn't play that program) the DVD would skip causing a lag in the audio. It doesn't matter which audio/video track you are listening/watching....it always happens in the same FtWR spots.

    Since I could get the player to do anything about this, I had to come up with a work around. The best thing I could come up with is just after the skipping, just backup the video a little bit. By seeking like this, it resyncs the audio and video. Not perfect, but unless I get a new player this is what has to be done to watch it. *sigh*

    Makes me wish I bought the LD instead. :-(

  97. To play it on a MAC/my experience/ MP3 by Hobbes_ · · Score: 1

    You have to hold down CTRL-Apple-I

    but I had already returned it at that stage :(

    I tried it on three different DVD players and it ranged from not working at all to freezing at certain points in the movie to crashing if I access the PC options.

    And why the heck would someone put windows options on it only? >:(

    What's really annoying if you check some of the boards WB are keeping quiet about it, and other people have claimed it's peoples DVD players are not up to date (but mine is only 2 months old!!).

    Other things I didn't like was the quality of the movie was grainy and Ms Moss freaked my head out in the commentary I got the impression she was speaking from across the room in a whisper. :)

    For an excellent movie they really messed it up.

  98. whoops last point :) by Hobbes_ · · Score: 1

    I seem to see parallels with this and MP3 and SDMI. Basically they want you to upgrade your machine so you can watch thier movie.

    This sort of Stunt M$ have been pulling for years.

  99. Re:G3 350 w DVD by Kintanon · · Score: 1

    ARGH....

    my Apple G3 350 with DVD can't play it at all...

    evil plot of the evil empire?


    Yes it will, you have to hold control during the DVD startup, it just won't have any of the special features available. I think there are more details at some of the Mac sites... But it IS possible to play it.

    Kintanon

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  100. No problems by Col.+Panic · · Score: 1

    I have watched all of the features, including a second audio track that plays along with most of the movie. Carrie-Anne Moss (Trinity) and the editor and someone else comment scene-by-scene about making the movie. It's OK.

    There is a much cooler "Making of the Matrix" feature that shows their martial arts training and all kinds of interviews.

  101. There is no spoon by KlomDark · · Score: 1

    I think the worst thing was that shitty DVD-player software they try to install on your machine. The interface sucks, and it locked up on me twice, I promptly uninstalled it and used the standard Compaq DVD software to play it with very little problems. I did notice a few 'flashframes' and times when the framerate seemed to slow.

  102. Run Lola Run by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be silly, Run Lola Run had the best soundtrack ever, unless you count rock concert movies, and then it would be Stop Making Sence.

  103. Re:How about with Creative PC-DVD? by HalloFlippy · · Score: 1
    Anybody have any problems using The Matrix DVD in their computer? My friend has an Encore DXR 6x, I think, and I was thinking about getting this as a present for him. Will it work?

    I have a Hitachi GD-2500 DVD-ROM and a Diamond Viper 550 AGP. The DVD software (Zoran SoftDVD) won't play all the movie. Cycles back the beginning after the "There is no spoon" chapter, and even if you select the next chapter from the menu, it still sends you right back to the beginning.

    Using the PCFriendly software that comes on the DVD will let me see the entire movie, but the aspect ratio is scrogged. The letterbox border is still there, but the people are still tall & thin, like they'd been "formatted for your TV".

    Last gripe, sometimes the movie "skips". Don't know what else to call it, but it seems like the video analogy to when I hit a bump in the road and my CD player jumps. (yeah, it's a cheap system. I'm a student...)

    Still a great movie, despite the bugs.

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  104. Re:It's not ju jitsu, it's kung fu. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the 'real world', survival depends more on the figher than the art. Ever hear the saying "It's not the man in the fight, but the fight in the man? It's true.There is no such thing as an 'ulimate' martial art - it's a myth. Different arts have different uses.BTW - anyone can beat a grappler (even BJJ) with two simple (messy) techniques:1. Get close (the grappler's strategy) then either a. stick your finger into his eye socket. Stop when you reach the second knuckle b. put your face next to his head. Bite ear. Push away.Why do you think eye gouges and biting are outlawed in the UFC?

  105. Same here by wnknisely · · Score: 1

    Had a couple of friends over to watch the movie last weekend. No problem on my inexpensive RCA player (one of the newer models though)

    I do have occasional problems with Apollo 13 - in that occasionally the Player can not decode the disk, but I just keep pressing play until the "magic" works.

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  106. Taking The DVD Plunge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm waffling on it. Checking the newsgroups and audioreview.com: it
    seems it's hardly possible to get a DVD player for less than US$500
    that hasn't had problems reported. (I'm considering the approx.
    US$500 Denon unit.) Plus I have a "plain ol' TV" (not widescreen), and
    many of the releases don't include 4:3 format. (Call me an idiot if
    you will, but I strongly dislike the "black bars" at the top & bottom
    of the screen.)

    So while I have a pretty good 5.1 HT setup from an audio standpoint,
    the video part may have to wait a while. And I guess I'll be stuck
    with DPL audio, as well.

    At least until the whole DVD picture improves. (Pun intended.)

    1. Re:Taking The DVD Plunge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just bought a Sony DVD DVP-S530D at Fry's Electronics last weekend for $299. The Matrix came in from Amazon Saturday morning and I had the DVD player by lunch, and I must say that it rocks. I haven't had any of the problems playing The Matrix that other people are talking about. PLus the player has optical audio and coaxial output, and componenet video out. Right now, it's just hooked up to my plain old nothing special tv, and it works flawlessly, but I still have the option to buy a better tv sometime in the future and it'll work. I highly reccomend the player.

  107. Re:It's not ju jitsu, it's kung fu. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >with two simple (messy) techniques:

    How about one.

    1. Shoot opponet with 9mm gun.

    2. (Optional) Run away before opponet's friends come.

    I always do 2. but thats why I'm an Anonymoous Coward.

  108. Criterion Collection by BugMaster+ChuckyD · · Score: 2

    The Criterion Collection is released by a company (Criterion) that specializes on high quality transfers of films to DVD often with alot of extras. they started doing tis for Laser Disc and are now doing it for DVD. They are not doing anymore LDs and IIRC are stopping production of their LD becuase they feel that LD has been supersceded by DVD.

    There web site is here.

  109. Lip-Sync Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IIRC, I've seen Sony DVD players mentioned more often than any other
    in conjunction with lip-sync problems.

  110. G3 350 w DVD by GnorpH · · Score: 1

    ARGH....

    my Apple G3 350 with DVD can't play it at all...

    evil plot of the evil empire?

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    1. Re:G3 350 w DVD by Pope · · Score: 3

      go to Mac Fixit.
      There's been a lot of coverage on the Mac sites because apparently, the company making this formatted it as an ISO disk instead of UDF.

      There's a way around the problems if you go to their site and look it up.

      PPoE

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  111. DVD Probs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Panasonic DVD A112 and The Matrix (which has taken almost permanent residence) works flawlessly.
    I tried playing it on a Toshiba player at my College and it refused to load at all. Nothing. I read the manual and it includes double sided DVDs in what you can play, but does not refer to dual layer at all, for better or for worse. (The DVD states that it is dual layer and that it may pause for a second when switching between layers, something it has never done.Well, lemme put it this way, I have no clue where the switch occurs...). It also states that DVD ROMs are not compatable. The Matrix does include a DVD ROM portion, so maybe that has something to do with it?
    Or maybey this the counter attack of the Machines, tring to blunder the plight of the resistance...
    ;-P

  112. No Problem by rodentsrevenge · · Score: 1

    I have a Panasonic DVD-A300 and it works flawlessly on it.

  113. Perfect Playback here on my Entertn Sys Sony DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a 5.1 output sony on my surround sound system in the living room...no fuzz, no skip perfect execution...in fact the processor load readout shows that its only using about 50% of the capability...hell "replacement killers" tended to hit 60-70% at times. I did take it over for kicks and try it on a divx a friend has...it was bad skippy and smeared and was aweful...so thats probably where the problems are. Took it to town and played it on a DVD pc demo unit to see if I wanted the DVD yet...worked good there too...it was a noname dvd drive hooked to a manchine with a tnt 2 in it.

  114. Support for all problems on the Matrix. by FuzzyArt · · Score: 1

    PC Friendly, http://www.pcfriendly.com offers support for any problems related to playing The Matrix. Their support number is 408-436-6709 is open from 8:00AM to 7:30PM PST. They will provide support for both PC and Apple and are also as an added service are keeping those with home systems up to date on fixes to the players. On the home players: Currently Zenith is the only one with a fix. Samsung was also quick to respond and is working on a fix. Sony and Pioneer have requested customers contact them directly. Many of the PC Decoders are also working on fixes some of which are in testing now. Apple is also updating the Apple DVD player (version 1.3) and the update should be available soon. Hope this helps. FuzzyArt fuzzyart@hotmail.com

  115. Ahh, I am the guy with the Sony with 5.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thats it! The pc did not have video out of course cause it went direct to pc screen, and my entertainment system with sony player has 5.1 out...therefore removing the need to use a switchbox or macro-remover...the divx I used of course was not 5.1 :).

  116. another useful dvd info site by Lurking+Grue · · Score: 3

    Check out The Digital Bits. They covered this a few days ago, and they're an excellent source for DVD information.

  117. Re:4:3 Format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    or get a DVD player with a zoom feature - do it yourself "formatted to fit your screen". My Toshiba has zoom and you can move it around with the d-pad, great for checking out the details in some movies ;-)

  118. December 7 by tuffy · · Score: 1
    According to Amazon.com. As for the future of DVD, I just look at any local Best Buy to see the titles are here and have reached that critical mass of consumer acceptance. And after having seen DVD in action on my own (crappy) TV, I'll never buy another VHS tape again.

    (and the fact that they don't degrade with every playback is a nice bonus)

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  119. My Panasonic 120 works fine too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Panasonic 120. I was surprised to see it in the list of players that were having trouble.

  120. First, learn how to spell 'eXistenZ'... idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    release date is October 19th... must you be a stupid 'intellectual'? Why raise this point?

  121. yeah I agree by cthonious · · Score: 1
    The Matrix did suck; it had a great image - Neo waking up in his slime pod - but it was a downhill plunge from there. There are so many things one could've done with the metaphor (having someone show you that everything you thought was true simply isn't). From that point it just degenerated into a cheap ultra violent action flick, but one supposes it was exciting enough. Certainly better than Lucas' dismal, odious abomination of market culture that we were subjected to.

    Then, what was with the bizarre "christian" imagery: "trinity", the messaianic nature of Neo. None of that makes any sense. What a muddled movie.

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  122. Re:How about with Creative PC-DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It works.

    I decided to take the plunge and get a DVD player when The Matrix came out on DVD. I got the CL PC-DVD 6x dxr3 and tried it out.

    I noticed that the menu buttons didn't line up properly with the mouse pointer, so that clicking on a button would actually select the previous button.

    I also occasionally had the the CL player software freeze up just before entering 'menu mode', this happened a few times.

    My $0.02 follows:

    Anyway, I returned the PC-DVD player because I've decided to get a (real :) DVD player instead. The VGA loopback cable / Dxr3 card causes a slight blurriness of the picture (on the monitor). Also I had a problem with interference when viewing on the TV. Personally I think PC-DVD players are great if you want to watch DVDs on your PC monitor but not worth it if you want to watch on a TV (there's just too much RF inside the PC case). (Plus it doesn't come with a remote! - I prefer to watch movies sitting on a couch.)

    $: shield --enable

  123. Re:It's not ju jitsu, it's kung fu. by Kintanon · · Score: 1

    Yeah Yeah, now would any of yo BJJ people like to go up against a top class Muay Thai fighter? Ha!

    In a recent(ish) publicity event, ten of the worlds best Kung Fu Masters, met ten of the best Muay Thai Fighters. The results?

    Nine of the Kung Fu people got knocked out in the opening round. The 10th Kung Fu guy submitted in the 2nd.

    I'm not being all "My form is better than yours", but when you have to mess somebody up, Muay Thai is the weapon of choice :)

    Now, if this isn't offtopic, I don't know what is!

    Mong.



    I've seen people watch Muay Thai Kickboxers and turn to me and say 'Why is he standing so funny? I'd just punch him in the stomach... he has no guard base' And after I stop laughing I inform them that punching a Muay Thai fighter in the stomach is just a really fast way of commiting suicide... I whole heartedly agree that Muay Thai is the meanest and quite likely most effective fighting style if you want to break someone in half... Capoeira on the other hand is a FAR prettier style, and I've seen a couple of Capoeiristas that could dismantle a Thai Kickboxer in seconds... Those guys are pretty damn brutal too.

    Kintanon

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  124. Re:Future is Analog Video Cassette(AVC)?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've forgotten one important human factor in your analysis. While having the ability to see on-demand any movie ever made is "better" from the strictly utilitarian point of view, DVDs allow one to amass a collection that can then be used to impress other people. It's the urge to collect and accumulate that on-demand can never satisfy. Lots of people like to invite people into their viewing area, and watch the look on their face when they see their "wall of videos" that stretch from ceiling to floor.

    That difference between "being able to watch it anytime I want" and "OWNING it" is what will keep DVD and successor technologies quite profitable.

  125. my math is atrocious by RoLlEr_CoAsTeR · · Score: 1

    Entshuldigung Sie, bitte...

    sorry about that. I was trying to put forth an effort, and worked it out in my head. Be sure I won't try _that_ again...

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  126. You are buying Record(LP) sized DVD's?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your movies are going to take up a LOT of space. Your kids are going to laugh at your collection. Come on and join DVD. Your LD tech is dead. How do you watch an LD on your computer? How can you transfer your digital movies to the NEXT standard??

    1. Re:You are buying Record(LP) sized DVD's?? by bugzilla · · Score: 1

      Your movies are going to take up a LOT of space. Your kids are going to laugh at your collection. Come on and join DVD. Your LD tech is dead. How do you watch an LD on your computer? How can you transfer your digital movies to the NEXT standard??

      Your kids are going to laugh at you for your physical collection of movies. What do you think the next technology is going to be, anyway? minidisc? You wrist-computer can't play DVD's can it? That would look awful silly.

      There's going to be a point where the necessity for a physical piece of plastic (or whatever) is no longer required and all of this is going to be moot (wouldn't that be paradise?). In the mean time, picking on LD's for their size is stupid. They were by far the best media in their time and even myself, whose LD collection still outnumbers his DVD collection (but not by much), cringes when watching some LD's - visually they leave something to be desired when compared to some of the better DVD encodings coming out - but by no means am I in danger of being crushed by them. Some of the early DVD encodings were terrible (the fleshtones in Bladerunner can make your skin crawl) but they keep improving, and soon they are going to take up more space than my LD's. Thank goodness I never liked the quality of VHS...

    2. Re:You are buying Record(LP) sized DVD's?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Offtopic, but I thought the Physical Size of LD's made them more susceptible to being damaged by plastic and label layers separating a little and allowing the aluminun to oxidize?

      DVD's seem to be less likely to suffer, since their smaller size means they take less abuse (I guess...).

  127. Re:How about with Creative PC-DVD? by PablosBrain · · Score: 1

    I have an older Encore Kit that I bought last summer.. it works great! no problems.

  128. Works fine on Thinkpad 570 by taliesen · · Score: 1

    I have an IBM Thinkpad 570 with the ultrabase/dock
    and the DVD player for that has no problems at all... now the movie Sneakers, thats another
    story...

  129. so, what do we do? by Theodore · · Score: 1

    I returned my matrix DVD about 1 hour after I put it in my PC.
    (toshiba 6X, p2/500, xentor32, xing).
    I put the new one in and the same thing happens.
    I'm going to pick up a sigma hollywood card in a few hours,

    but...

    This is something else.
    there are TOO many people having problems with this disk.
    What do we do?
    Do we return it for good, and wait a few months for them to get it right?
    Do we bug them until we get them replaced with disks that work?

    Lets face it, they know how to make DVD's,
    what happened here?
    Don't try to innovate, just give us a disk that works for everyone!

    1. Re:so, what do we do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh? What happens? It works great for me on the Matrix DVD. Maybe your copy of the DVD is bad. Try it on a real DVD player... If it is no go, then you know that the problem is the DVD.

      Note: I'm using rev. 1.7 of the software and drivers, perhaps that is your problem?

      Tell me what the problem is, perhaps I can duplicate it and help?

    2. Re:so, what do we do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It played (almost) fine on my Hollywood Plus card. I used the new slot load EIDE Pioneer drive to play it. The menus don't work right, but it didn't matter, since you can choose everything you need with the player's manual controls anyways. The DVD played back flawlessly, with great DD 5.1 surround sound, and awesome picture.

      :-)

  130. This is probably copy-protection backfiring. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The movie industry today is where the software industry was in the 80s on copy-protection. They think everyone is out to mass-pirate their movies worldwide, and that macrovision, region encoding, code to check for hacked players will somehow solve all of their problems and make everyone except evil pirates happy.

    Wrong.

    In reality, copy-protection often screws over the legitimate customer. Macrovision makes my TV roll, making certain movies unwatchable on my bedrrom TV. I can't route my DVD through my VCR (I only have 1 set of A/V inputs on my TV) without the VCR judging me to be a pirate and washing out my signal even when I'm not recording. So I have to buy a switchbox even though I really don't need one. Also, I am for some reason, FORCED to have my DVD player hacked to watch Japanese movies that I LEGITIMATELY PAID FOR.I just wanna watch movies. Why is the technology being deliberately used to screw over the honest consumer? Maybe it doesn't happen often, but if it happens even once to the honest guy, that's once too much. From the look of things, though, it happens a lot more often than that.

    Hey hollywood! Where's your solution?

  131. It just arrived by Adnans · · Score: 1

    Hope it works flawlessly on this Hitchachi GD2500 -adnans

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    "In short: just say NO TO DRUGS, and maybe you won't end up like the Hurd people." --Linus Torvalds
  132. No probs by xinu · · Score: 1

    Toshiba 6x w/ 32Meg G400, Hollywood+ decoder, SB Live and Cambrdige Soundworks Desktop Theatre 5.1... Not a single problem...

  133. No problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have no problems in my CL Drx3. However, the PC freindly stuff realy sux.

  134. the future of this by RoLlEr_CoAsTeR · · Score: 1

    this may be off-topic, but my thoughts are, if DVD _is_ going to progress and be a technology that stays with us [permanently], I'm just going to wait, myself, until they improve the DVD players and push the technology to its farther limits so that I won't have to upgrade my equipment all the time, and I'll suffer less problems this way with DVDs. The other thing is, this plan works based on the theory of backwards compatibility (which I felt like mentioning, even though it wouldn't be an issue here), and on the idea that the technology will improve, become more wide-spread, and become less expensive which all adds up to equal more incentive to buy DVD. I know that a lot of computers now come with standard DVD drives, but, alas, I missed out on that one. Even so, that's just my $f(x)=1/x, where x=5.

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  135. I know the problem... by GoVegan · · Score: 1

    One word:

    Snowcrash

    Actually, I don't really think this is a big deal at all. It certainly won't affect the future of DVD. From reading the article, it seems this is much like older CD players not being able to read CD-RW discs, and I'm pretty sure that CD is still a viable media.

  136. Future is Analog Video Cassette(AVC)?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, you want to invest in AVC(Analog Video Cassettes) because it has a future.

    DVD is really booming.
    It's not the last format ever, but it is the replacement for AVC's(for playback).
    The NEXT format/media will most likely still be digital. It's going to be fairly easy to transfer my DVD movies to that format(unlike your AVC's)

  137. I have no problem with The matrix DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a Memorex 6x DVD drive and am using WinDVD v1.2 software decoder and i think it skipped for a second once during the movie which is very good for using software and I cant even enable DMA access on the DVD-ROM.

  138. Re:How about with Creative PC-DVD? by Quikah · · Score: 1

    Actually you can get a remote for the PC based DVD kits. Go to the Remote Selector site. Works great, not only does it allow you to use a remote, but it also removes macrovision, lets you change regions an infinite number of times and switch between PAL and NTSC.

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    Q.
  139. Matrix DVD Probs by Majik · · Score: 1

    The only prob I've had with my copy of the matrix is that it has a skip during the menu. The original problems I've encountered is between 3com's diagnostic protocol on my 3c905BTX net card and my dxr3/encore 6x. Trying to play with the diagnostic prot enable locked up my machine *Ever* time. Disabling it has made the movie play w/o a hitch ever time.

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  140. Blockbuster and DVD by BugMaster+ChuckyD · · Score: 2

    Some Blockbusters already rent DVDs and will have DVDs available in most/all of its US stores by the end of this year. Click here for more info.

  141. Not true, VHS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My VHS player I bought a few years ago still plays the tapes I recorded back in the mid-80's just fine. I can put it in the oldest or the newest VHS VCR and it works flawlessly. Picture varies of course but all the "features" work. I definitely am not touching a DVD player until they have a $300 version that does realtime encoding and burning of a DVD and sticks to the standards. If I can't tape off my DSS to it then it is not worth the money. I'll stick with a high end VCR.

    1. Re:Not true, VHS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try playing an SVHS tape in that baby. Then say standards never evolve...

  142. Hmmm, I never had this problem with laserdisc... by nedron · · Score: 1
    While I own a DVD player, I'm not particularly impressed. The pointless extras are bad enough, but the high incidence of digital artifacting and general software problems are really irritating.

    With LD, I never had to watch the disc as soon as I got it. With DVD, I have to watch the whole damn thing immediately to see if it has to be returned.

    I've had to return a much larger percentage of DVD's than I ever had to with LD.

    Oh well, maybe they'll get it right (and stop remixing old soundtracks and stop digitally enhancing black and white movies) sometime in the next 5-10 years.

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    * As is generally the case, my opinions do not reflect those of my employer.
  143. Re:4:3 Format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just note, most movies in 4:3 format on VHS have been mutilated. ie. You are not getting the whole movie. Think of it as the left and right sides of the picture being "censored". I like my widescreen... I want to see everything! If you want to rid yourself of those lines, get a 16:9 TV.

  144. All I wanted to do was watch a movie!!! by Packet · · Score: 1

    I have a Creative DVD on my win98 box. I popped Matrix in as soon as I picked it up. Then spent an hour of anger and frustration getting it to run.
    First, instead of playing the movie, the 'autoplay' "feature" launched a setup program. The program insisted installing PC Friendly(!) software I neither needed or wanted on my machine. I looked in vain for any way to bypass this step and just watch the ^%&*( movie, but every road lead me back to the install program.
    Fine, so I finally gave up and let it start installing what it wanted to. THEN it notified me that I did not have a new enough version of IE, (I didn't have ANY version, I had spent a lot of time and effort getting rid of it). Before I went any further it offered/insisted/threatened to install it for me. Again, there was no way to avoid this if I wanted to see the movie.
    NEXT, the setup complained about my Creative DVD drivers, and told me I would have to uninstall the old drivers and player, and install the new version they had so thoughtfully included on the DVD.
    FINALLY I was ready to watch the movie (was it worth it?), but I still have problems with their poorly designed interface, and a mouse that registers clicks about 150 pixels below the menu button I clicked on, whick ended up being the next menu item down. This lead to a lot of confused and angry clicking through the damn buttons that were not taking me where they said they were, before I figured out the problem.
    So now the movie runs, but I am no longer in any mood to watch it (on the other hand, seeing things blown up and shot may be just what I need).

    Since when did watching a DVD turn into an IQ test? What does this say about life when every appliance in your house will be TCP/IP enabled?

    "Honey, I finally got the new toaster installed, I had to download new drivers from toast.com and then flash the firmware. Just don't try to adjust the darkness, or it will crash."

  145. Few problems by AaronW · · Score: 1

    I have a Philips DVX 8000 which is a hybrid computer/DVD ROM player and line doubler AV controller. This box is notorious for not liking certain DVDs.

    The Matrix DVD was almost flawless. There are a few places on the disk where the MPEG video screws up and it backs up a couple of seconds, but no hangs.

    The software on the DVD cannot play the DVD, but that's not surprising given that the player has some rather special hardware (a very custom graphics adapter, for example).

    I have a problem where it jumps out of the audio commentary track after each chapter, but I have this problem with other DVDs as well (i.e. Godzilla).

    I love the fact that they include a separate audio-only track. I wish more DVDs would do this. Also, the white rabbit sequences are quite cool.

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  146. Heard about this while on the phone with best buy by el+jefe · · Score: 2

    I was calling a best buy last week and instead of putting me on hold, a clerk just put the handest on the counter. I heard someone (maybe a manager) tell him about the matrix problem, and from what I could tell, they would offer to exchange the affected dvd players for newer models that don't have that problem. Of course, don't quote me on this, because while I was trying to listen someone kept making announcements over their paging system. But if you bought your dvd player from best buy and you can't play the matrix, it might at least be worth a call.

  147. JVC 501BK problem by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 1

    I only had one problem with my DVD. During the scene where they're going to see the oracle in the "Follow the White Rabbit" mode. The video started getting digital "noise" and the sound started flaking out, to the point that I had to stop the movie. However, I'm not so sure it's the player's fault, and I watched over the scene again (not in that mode) with no problems. Other than that, the movie is flawless. The special effects extras are worth the price of the movie alone.

  148. How about with Creative PC-DVD? by suqur · · Score: 1

    Anybody have any problems using The Matrix DVD in their computer? My friend has an Encore DXR 6x, I think, and I was thinking about getting this as a present for him. Will it work?

  149. 1st Generation Players. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone notice most of those players with the problems were NOT first generation but actually a _LOT_ of 3rd and 4th generation players? A lot of those players JUST CAME OUT.

  150. My Linux box can't either :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or most of my other DVD's. One or two don't have CSS, and I can play them (SLOWLY) with NIST.