Copyright infringement isn't theft, has nothing to do with drugs or underage drinking, and while it might have to do with partying as people may play the infringed music during, I won't put it in the same ballpark and neither should you.
Actually, I would, because I find laws on drinking age and (certain) recreational drugs as unjust as current copyright laws, as do many in acadamia and acadamia admin. All of these issues are a matter of separating "fair/reasonable/moderate" use from abuse. The analogy from a university standpoint is quite apt (I am involved in such institutions and have seen many cycles of this go though).
Followup here: What universities loathe is bad publicity. For alcohol, it's a matter of perceiving to do something about the "problem". The filesharing is a more delicate balance. As you can't point to a "binge-drinking think-of-the-children" reaction to copyright infringement, what will give press in the eyes of alums/parents/students/media: "illegal" filesharing or draconian policing?
There are a number of things that are done in a university setting that would be considered illegal anywhere else.
That's more of a "don't ask, don't tell, and don't abuse the privilege", and it doesn't make the activity legal. For example, underage drinking, recreational drugs... many colleges don't want to police it on a room-to-room level, but will if parties are spiraling out of control or it comes to media attention. And this issue has media attention.
The difference between Redundant and Informative can be so small... and the difference is placement. +5 for you.
I'm not going to feel guilty about it, we've got the same timestamp... this was enough of an important update I figured placement at the top for readers/ would-be slashdot emailers was worth doing, don't need the karma... if an editor posts an update they can credit the other dude... and you know I was pretty much predicting a complaint like yours:).
Ah, I see that Wiley has followed Washington D.C.'s lead: before doing something objectionable, hire a junior staffer for blame absorption.
Yes, in addition, it creates a type of legal question-begging: if you routinely grant permission for what would be fair use anyway, no one can take you to court to say they don't need your permission to engage in fair use, so fair use rights can never be firmly tested. Very convenient!
Other questions to ponder are whether this is a routine scare-tactic from Wiley (which they would back down on, but cows 95% would-be users), etc. All worthy of discussion in this thread, but probably, at this point, not worth another ream of e-mail to the so-called "junior staffer."
Please note: Wiley has responded and resolved the issue favorably, blaming the matter on a juinor staffer... and asking for no abusive email to the junior staffer...
The problem is we just can't get planning permission to build straight tracks. Locals object (because of noise), hippies object (to cutting down trees), environmentalists object (on principal) and so forth. By the time you incorporate the costs of fighting through all the planning, public enquiries, protestors, etc, building a high speed train link anywhere in the UK is un-economic.
Not to mention the dangers of leaves on the line and the wrong type of snow.
I REALLY don't mind paying that for 256kbps non DRM AAC.
I'm surprised I haven't seen this on the thread, but will we all need iPods with bigger drives now? Mine's maxed at the lower sample rate. Is that the other win for Jobs?
"Moreover, Congress LIKES voluntary compliance on things like pollution standards... as long as it's for corporations. Why the double-standard?" They'd understand that argument, though they wouldn't like it.
I'm sure that many libraries for prestigious universities would still buy the hard copy.
Sorry, it's the opposite. Old days: Libraries got hard copies. Most Universities librarys open to public. Public could go and find hard copies. Price: fair use photocopying.
Today: Library gets online journal subscriptions. Only available to those who have university computer accounts. Public loses.
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beginning with a conclusion and finding reasons to justify it, regardless of where the evidence points.
In statistical terms also known as overfitting your data.
DRM is encryption in which you only give keys to licensees. (Sorry if I got it wrong, I thought we were talking about the technological side and what the law should be, not the distinction the law currently makes).
You're confusing fair-use of something you've got with my right not to give it to you in the first place. I just wrote an original paragraph on my computer. I encrypted it. It is, since I wrote it, under my copyright. Are you saying I should be required to send it to you if you demand it, or lose my copyright? Or if I post the encrypted file on a website, am I required to send the key free of charge to anyone who demands it, or lose copyright?
If you believe that, you must necessarily not believe in the Four Freedoms, and therefore must not agree with the GPL. You can believe in one or the other, but not both as it would be a contradiction.
I agree that to be called free, software should be subject to the four freedoms, but that I should be free not to make the software that I write free.
Or you can sell it, in which case whoever buys it can do whatever they want with it.
The point is, I should have the freedom to encrypt/DRM something before I sell it to you, as long as I tell you it's encrypted/DRMed before you pay. Then you should have the freedom to try as hard as you like to break the encryption once it's yours. And if you don't want to bother, don't buy my encrypted crap and I'll go out of business.
The biggest improvement I got in shaving was when I stopped using shaving cream (while using Mach 3)
Okay, I'm a Mediterranean who gets a 5o'clock shadow at 1pm. Despite that have a fairly sensitive skin underneath. My findings:
1. The 3-blades really, really are 3x as good as the 1 or 2. Just...nicer. I was really skeptical at first, but now I'm not. Dunno if I'll believe 5, but might try.
2. Spray on foam "cream" is lousy. What works really well is a block of soap (some of that high-glycerin stuff they sell with colored soap pictures of stars or something is best) plus a nice shaving brush to rub and massage it in. That old-fashioned brush is really, really the key to not getting cut up.
3. Of course the best shave is a barber with a straight-razor in my home country, but no one in the states seems willing to risk that anymore.
I love this. First some idiot steals my joke. Then he gets modded up to +5 Funny while I sit at +3 Funny. Then *I* get the Redundant because *he* replied to the first post.
Well, of course. The only winning move is not to play.
Actually, I would, because I find laws on drinking age and (certain) recreational drugs as unjust as current copyright laws, as do many in acadamia and acadamia admin. All of these issues are a matter of separating "fair/reasonable/moderate" use from abuse. The analogy from a university standpoint is quite apt (I am involved in such institutions and have seen many cycles of this go though).
Followup here: What universities loathe is bad publicity. For alcohol, it's a matter of perceiving to do something about the "problem". The filesharing is a more delicate balance. As you can't point to a "binge-drinking think-of-the-children" reaction to copyright infringement, what will give press in the eyes of alums/parents/students/media: "illegal" filesharing or draconian policing?
That's more of a "don't ask, don't tell, and don't abuse the privilege", and it doesn't make the activity legal. For example, underage drinking, recreational drugs... many colleges don't want to police it on a room-to-room level, but will if parties are spiraling out of control or it comes to media attention. And this issue has media attention.
You mean, getting involved in a land war in Asia?
I'm not going to feel guilty about it, we've got the same timestamp... this was enough of an important update I figured placement at the top for readers/ would-be slashdot emailers was worth doing, don't need the karma... if an editor posts an update they can credit the other dude... and you know I was pretty much predicting a complaint like yours
Yes, in addition, it creates a type of legal question-begging: if you routinely grant permission for what would be fair use anyway, no one can take you to court to say they don't need your permission to engage in fair use, so fair use rights can never be firmly tested. Very convenient!
Other questions to ponder are whether this is a routine scare-tactic from Wiley (which they would back down on, but cows 95% would-be users), etc. All worthy of discussion in this thread, but probably, at this point, not worth another ream of e-mail to the so-called "junior staffer."
Please note: Wiley has responded and resolved the issue favorably, blaming the matter on a juinor staffer... and asking for no abusive email to the junior staffer...
I just did...now it's on six.
Maybe we're the cataclysm.
64M is enough for intelligence to repeatedly re-evolve...
Not to mention the dangers of leaves on the line and the wrong type of snow.
If you're so concerned about unit comparisons, you'd never learn how many parsecs Serenity would take on the Kessel Run.
I'm surprised I haven't seen this on the thread, but will we all need iPods with bigger drives now? Mine's maxed at the lower sample rate. Is that the other win for Jobs?
"Moreover, Congress LIKES voluntary compliance on things like pollution standards... as long as it's for corporations. Why the double-standard?" They'd understand that argument, though they wouldn't like it.
Sorry, it's the opposite. Old days: Libraries got hard copies. Most Universities librarys open to public. Public could go and find hard copies. Price: fair use photocopying.
Today: Library gets online journal subscriptions. Only available to those who have university computer accounts. Public loses.
In statistical terms also known as overfitting your data .
Will the rankings be computerized?
I think it's because he said it like this.
It's the tubes, man, the tubes .
DRM is encryption in which you only give keys to licensees. (Sorry if I got it wrong, I thought we were talking about the technological side and what the law should be, not the distinction the law currently makes).
You're confusing fair-use of something you've got with my right not to give it to you in the first place. I just wrote an original paragraph on my computer. I encrypted it. It is, since I wrote it, under my copyright. Are you saying I should be required to send it to you if you demand it, or lose my copyright? Or if I post the encrypted file on a website, am I required to send the key free of charge to anyone who demands it, or lose copyright?
I agree that to be called free, software should be subject to the four freedoms, but that I should be free not to make the software that I write free.
Hahaha HA HA HA hahaha (hrhmph. excuse me a moment, ok). snicker. heeheehee hmph. heeheehee.
The point is, I should have the freedom to encrypt/DRM something before I sell it to you, as long as I tell you it's encrypted/DRMed before you pay. Then you should have the freedom to try as hard as you like to break the encryption once it's yours. And if you don't want to bother, don't buy my encrypted crap and I'll go out of business.
Okay, I'm a Mediterranean who gets a 5o'clock shadow at 1pm. Despite that have a fairly sensitive skin underneath. My findings:
1. The 3-blades really, really are 3x as good as the 1 or 2. Just...nicer. I was really skeptical at first, but now I'm not. Dunno if I'll believe 5, but might try.
2. Spray on foam "cream" is lousy. What works really well is a block of soap (some of that high-glycerin stuff they sell with colored soap pictures of stars or something is best) plus a nice shaving brush to rub and massage it in. That old-fashioned brush is really, really the key to not getting cut up.
3. Of course the best shave is a barber with a straight-razor in my home country, but no one in the states seems willing to risk that anymore.
Well, of course. The only winning move is not to play.