The brits are using a time-proven formula to make their citizens demand previously unpopular policies. It's called Problem-Reaction-Solution.
Once a problem is allowed to get bad enough (say, crime) there will be a reaction from the enraged populace, and they will eagerly embrace the solution (say, snitching) offered by the people who engineered the problem to begin with.
Governments do it again and again because the public falls for it every time.
Hmmm... If it turns out to be a scheme to squeeze 2 pounds a month for the "privilege of peeping" (you might get to snitch, if lucky enough to see something suspicious) and pay 1000 only for the "snitch-of-the-month-winner", I wonder if they are not actually considering the cost of running the CCTV network the actual problem and "peeping" as the kick meant to provoke the reaction??
I don't think you can ever make money off this. The only reason I paid was to try it out for myself and see what they were doing. Already unsubscribed the recurred billing.
First you need to have alerted correctly more times then anyone else. Second you only get 5 alerts a month. A combination of this means you'll never get any real money.
Being cheap, eh? Have a competition between many watchers and pay only 1000 quid
Another advantage they can derive: since one is already involved in surveillance, is less likely the one will oppose more advanced surveillance schemes. Except, probably, if disappointment for not being paid kicks in.
There is no reason not respectfully cut them off. Warn the user with an email that must be replied to before they get any further service.
[...]In a capitalist society....
With all respect for the OP, I call BS on her/his argument: since when ISP business went back closer to the capitalism (you know: free-market, competition, supply/demand and prices, business-as-responsible-citizens... the good old-fashioned capitalistic niceties?)
Preventing crime that involves using your service is a reasonable and legitamate business cost. After all, the botnets tend to be one of the major user of ISP resources
Oh, does it? Since when preventing crime is suddenly a "capitalistic way of doing business"? I'd argue the better capitalistic thing the ISP can do would be: penalize the user for the breach of "Terms of use" by switching them from a "All you can eat" plan to an "Pay for traffic quota" plan. You know, transferring the cost to where it is most natural to be dealt with, deriving a supplementary income from a breach of contract and let crime prevention to the organisations the business is paying taxes/fees to. On the other side, the prospect customer: if better prepared to deal with bots yourself (and being a low risk to your ISP), wouldn't you like to have a "better deal" from your ISP? (assuming a truly capitalistic society, in which the ISP fight to attract customers, this would probably happen. In the current reality, I'm suddenly not so sure it will.).
Yes, yes! A million times YES!
A doctor would quarantine a contagious patient. An ISP should quarantinean infected PC.
Is the ISP a qualified doctor? Another bad analogy: road-side accident - would you expect the police arriving to the scene to do more than make the person safe and, at most, deliver some basic CPR? Should the road be closed only because it is a irresponsible driver at large?
But how long until they are taking cars off the road simply because they are driven by the wrong kind of person, or at the wrong speed! This can't be allowed!
From TFA... because MS spent the last 30 years developing corner-cutting... errr, I mean, cutting-edge... software. Therefore they don't have a product, in mobile markets, they can be sued over.
I realize that the quote may be a little far fetching or out of context, but really? Even if mobile phones did have the same capabilities of my PC/consoles, would you really want to play serious games spending half your fingers holding the thing? Crappy sound or at best stereo headphone speaker sound? 3-5 inch screens?
And yet, in spite of vinyl records sounding better, in spite of CD allowing a high fidelity, there is still a gadget named iPod (and rumors say it is/was sold quite massively).
They've already done it: seems that it was indeed the most profitable movie ever. 40 years later and, amazingly, they didn't learn their lesson...the TV manufacturers would need to "get in bed" with the porn industry, not with Hollywood.
Except that all Commodore users had 5,25 inch floppies.
Jealous much?
And TRS80 had an 8 inch floppy. But that's not a reason to be jealous, after-all there were all floppies - not hards, thus the size doesn't matter that much, does it?
Afaik, the copyrights that can be asserted need to be registered with Ofcom. Which iirc means only large corporations will be able to use the DEA's provisions,...
I love my iPhone. I bought one day-one and continue to own one and an iPad. They are truly amazing devices, and in my opinion, there are none better.
Aaaaand that's where you lost me. Beaten Wife Syndrome: if you keep going back for more, after a while you have to take some responsibility for enabling the whuppings.
To aggravate the impression: the said "Beaten Wife" still obstinately claims he's an adult (4 times).
What's so hard to understand? You hate this enough to vent your frustration in public, maybe it's a sign you need to make your choice instead of wingeing the way a frustrated kid does. What's next: a tantrum?
Luckily for both of us, this planet is big enough to allow us continue to ignore one each other for the slice of time we share it. Therefore, I don't have to waste time arguing that my choice in mine only, no matter if believe that you, the righteous, will inherit the Earth after my - possibly premature - dismissal.
Thank you for wishing me "Good riddance", anyway.
"Now, the flip side to all of this is that more powerful weapons also greatly increase the amount of damage a single nutcase can do to the rest of society."
Modern TECHNOLOGY does that, and found objects that have frightful potential aren't limited to airliners!
Agreed!
The why stop at banning an iPhone app (which doesn't cause any harm BTW) and not ban the modern technology entirely? Or, at the very least, ban the use of it for certain classes of citizens (rednecks included)?
Just stop the smoking, drinking heavily, stop the junk food and get out and get some moderate exercise would prevent many if not most of the heart disease (and stroke) in the World.
The absolutely sure way to die of boredom in an "extremely healthy" condition.
I would say that the chances for life on this planet are 100 percent. I have almost no doubt about it,"
He contradicts himself: chances are 100%, almost sure. "Almost" is not 100%.
Plus what's up with Planet G? Planet M would have been better;)
Why? Where's the contracdiction? By his personal choice is to be absolutely sure only if the chances are greater that 100%! And, according to the Constitution, he has the fundamental right to make this choice!
"Patent trolls" foster innovation because it seeks out inventors and encourages them to do pure research and development.
Ah, so I shouldn't be scared about the missed calls I have on my answering machine (while asleep after a larval stage), the patent trolls were trying to encourage me, not threat me with patent-law suits.
Perhaps I'm a bit cynical, but this looks like a convenient way to not hire minorities.
You're not cynical enough. This is a convenient way of getting lots of people to not hire specific people.
One can only hope that when enough specific people are not hired, some of them will have enough entrepreneur spirit and luck to start creating jobs in which the difference won;t matter. You know what? I think that they are likely to succeed.
And best of all, you can find out things through Facebook that you are prohibited by law from asking your employees. Want to discriminate against employees on the basis of religious or political beliefs? Gotcha covered!
Yeap. I'm about to setup a Dionysus church: getting drunk is worshiping... and that's forbidden to discriminate against! Who's joining?
That's my point, we don't live pre-'95 anymore and the richness of the online experience has become integral to our modern lives.
And if I don't have a rich online experience that can be publicly related to me (using pseudonyms and such), does it make me a freak, a suspect or both?
If you are rational you won't go online saying and doing stupid things in a way in which it's linked to your workplace persona.
I wonder if you a rational to such a degree that you you post absolutely nothing personal on the Web: what score do you thing the "rationality test" should offer as a result? (I'm guessing here: "Nothing found! Highly suspect?!?")
Unrelated to OP in content, but title of the post is applicable:
Other studies have examined the type of container that would be needed to maintain the drink's carbonation in spite of the extreme pressure and temperature changes that accompany a ride into space.
WTF? Are they going to store the beer cans close to the rocket nozzle?
Because otherwise, what happens to the beer would be the smallest problem to the aforementioned "space riders".
The beer was produced as a joint venture between Saber Astronautics Australia, a new space engineering firm, and the Australian 4 Pines Brewing Company, located in Manly, a suburb of northern Sydney.
Typical aussies:) i live near Manly and never seen or heard of Australian 4 Pines Brewing Company... publicity stunt?
Is Manly in space? Maybe 4 Pines Brewing has all it's production already contracted by space tourism cruise operators?
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The brits are using a time-proven formula to make their citizens demand previously unpopular policies. It's called Problem-Reaction-Solution. Once a problem is allowed to get bad enough (say, crime) there will be a reaction from the enraged populace, and they will eagerly embrace the solution (say, snitching) offered by the people who engineered the problem to begin with. Governments do it again and again because the public falls for it every time.
Hmmm... If it turns out to be a scheme to squeeze 2 pounds a month for the "privilege of peeping" (you might get to snitch, if lucky enough to see something suspicious) and pay 1000 only for the "snitch-of-the-month-winner", I wonder if they are not actually considering the cost of running the CCTV network the actual problem and "peeping" as the kick meant to provoke the reaction??
I don't think you can ever make money off this. The only reason I paid was to try it out for myself and see what they were doing. Already unsubscribed the recurred billing.
First you need to have alerted correctly more times then anyone else. Second you only get 5 alerts a month. A combination of this means you'll never get any real money.
Being cheap, eh? Have a competition between many watchers and pay only 1000 quid
Another advantage they can derive: since one is already involved in surveillance, is less likely the one will oppose more advanced surveillance schemes. Except, probably, if disappointment for not being paid kicks in.
There is no reason not respectfully cut them off. Warn the user with an email that must be replied to before they get any further service.
[...]In a capitalist society ....
With all respect for the OP, I call BS on her/his argument: since when ISP business went back closer to the capitalism (you know: free-market, competition, supply/demand and prices, business-as-responsible-citizens... the good old-fashioned capitalistic niceties?)
Preventing crime that involves using your service is a reasonable and legitamate business cost. After all, the botnets tend to be one of the major user of ISP resources
Oh, does it? Since when preventing crime is suddenly a "capitalistic way of doing business"?
I'd argue the better capitalistic thing the ISP can do would be: penalize the user for the breach of "Terms of use" by switching them from a "All you can eat" plan to an "Pay for traffic quota" plan. You know, transferring the cost to where it is most natural to be dealt with, deriving a supplementary income from a breach of contract and let crime prevention to the organisations the business is paying taxes/fees to.
On the other side, the prospect customer: if better prepared to deal with bots yourself (and being a low risk to your ISP), wouldn't you like to have a "better deal" from your ISP? (assuming a truly capitalistic society, in which the ISP fight to attract customers, this would probably happen. In the current reality, I'm suddenly not so sure it will.).
Yes, yes! A million times YES! A doctor would quarantine a contagious patient. An ISP should quarantinean infected PC.
Is the ISP a qualified doctor?
Another bad analogy: road-side accident - would you expect the police arriving to the scene to do more than make the person safe and, at most, deliver some basic CPR? Should the road be closed only because it is a irresponsible driver at large?
But how long until they are taking cars off the road simply because they are driven by the wrong kind of person, or at the wrong speed! This can't be allowed!
It's already happening.
From TFA ... because MS spent the last 30 years developing corner-cutting... errr, I mean, cutting-edge... software. Therefore they don't have a product, in mobile markets, they can be sued over.
I realize that the quote may be a little far fetching or out of context, but really? Even if mobile phones did have the same capabilities of my PC/consoles, would you really want to play serious games spending half your fingers holding the thing? Crappy sound or at best stereo headphone speaker sound? 3-5 inch screens?
And yet, in spite of vinyl records sounding better, in spite of CD allowing a high fidelity, there is still a gadget named iPod (and rumors say it is/was sold quite massively).
Maybe if they make 3D porn it'll finally stick.
They've already done it: seems that it was indeed the most profitable movie ever.
40 years later and, amazingly, they didn't learn their lesson...the TV manufacturers would need to "get in bed" with the porn industry, not with Hollywood.
Except that all Commodore users had 5,25 inch floppies.
Jealous much?
And TRS80 had an 8 inch floppy.
But that's not a reason to be jealous, after-all there were all floppies - not hards, thus the size doesn't matter that much, does it?
Afaik, the copyrights that can be asserted need to be registered with Ofcom. Which iirc means only large corporations will be able to use the DEA's provisions, ...
Why? Are the fees so high? (just asking)
...a release of slingshot implementation in HTML5?
From the article:
Aaaaand that's where you lost me. Beaten Wife Syndrome: if you keep going back for more, after a while you have to take some responsibility for enabling the whuppings.
To aggravate the impression: the said "Beaten Wife" still obstinately claims he's an adult (4 times).
What's so hard to understand? You hate this enough to vent your frustration in public, maybe it's a sign you need to make your choice instead of wingeing the way a frustrated kid does. What's next: a tantrum?
Luckily for both of us, this planet is big enough to allow us continue to ignore one each other for the slice of time we share it. Therefore, I don't have to waste time arguing that my choice in mine only, no matter if believe that you, the righteous, will inherit the Earth after my - possibly premature - dismissal.
Thank you for wishing me "Good riddance", anyway.
"Now, the flip side to all of this is that more powerful weapons also greatly increase the amount of damage a single nutcase can do to the rest of society."
Modern TECHNOLOGY does that, and found objects that have frightful potential aren't limited to airliners!
Agreed!
The why stop at banning an iPhone app (which doesn't cause any harm BTW) and not ban the modern technology entirely? Or, at the very least, ban the use of it for certain classes of citizens (rednecks included)?
Just stop the smoking, drinking heavily, stop the junk food and get out and get some moderate exercise would prevent many if not most of the heart disease (and stroke) in the World.
The absolutely sure way to die of boredom in an "extremely healthy" condition.
I would say that the chances for life on this planet are 100 percent. I have almost no doubt about it,"
He contradicts himself: chances are 100%, almost sure. "Almost" is not 100%.
Plus what's up with Planet G? Planet M would have been better ;)
Why? Where's the contracdiction? By his personal choice is to be absolutely sure only if the chances are greater that 100%! And, according to the Constitution, he has the fundamental right to make this choice!
"Patent trolls" foster innovation because it seeks out inventors and encourages them to do pure research and development.
Ah, so I shouldn't be scared about the missed calls I have on my answering machine (while asleep after a larval stage), the patent trolls were trying to encourage me, not threat me with patent-law suits.
Perhaps I'm a bit cynical, but this looks like a convenient way to not hire minorities.
You're not cynical enough. This is a convenient way of getting lots of people to not hire specific people.
One can only hope that when enough specific people are not hired, some of them will have enough entrepreneur spirit and luck to start creating jobs in which the difference won;t matter. You know what? I think that they are likely to succeed.
And best of all, you can find out things through Facebook that you are prohibited by law from asking your employees. Want to discriminate against employees on the basis of religious or political beliefs? Gotcha covered!
Yeap. I'm about to setup a Dionysus church: getting drunk is worshiping... and that's forbidden to discriminate against!
Who's joining?
This trend scares me. Alot.
So stop living like a moron and you wont be discriminated against. Live your job.
That's funny! What number has the Constitution amendment that allows discrimination against morons?
they specifically mention the fact that if you're tagged in an image your boss is contacted
What a great way to get rid of workplace rivals! This will enable a whole new level of viciousness in company politics!
Seriously, it would take very little work and very little risk to completely ruin someone's career.
Mandatory course on the "progressive universities" MBA track: Photoshop Essentials, eh?
That's my point, we don't live pre-'95 anymore and the richness of the online experience has become integral to our modern lives.
And if I don't have a rich online experience that can be publicly related to me (using pseudonyms and such), does it make me a freak, a suspect or both?
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If you are rational you won't go online saying and doing stupid things in a way in which it's linked to your workplace persona.
I wonder if you a rational to such a degree that you you post absolutely nothing personal on the Web: what score do you thing the "rationality test" should offer as a result? (I'm guessing here: "Nothing found! Highly suspect?!?")
Other studies have examined the type of container that would be needed to maintain the drink's carbonation in spite of the extreme pressure and temperature changes that accompany a ride into space.
WTF? Are they going to store the beer cans close to the rocket nozzle?
Because otherwise, what happens to the beer would be the smallest problem to the aforementioned "space riders".
The beer was produced as a joint venture between Saber Astronautics Australia, a new space engineering firm, and the Australian 4 Pines Brewing Company, located in Manly, a suburb of northern Sydney. Typical aussies :) i live near Manly and never seen or heard of Australian 4 Pines Brewing Company... publicity stunt?
Is Manly in space? Maybe 4 Pines Brewing has all it's production already contracted by space tourism cruise operators?