then pro-copyright extremists will argue that running or using a proxy is prima faece evidence of criminality and then lobby hard to make it illegal.
FTFY (true, the correct fix would have been prima facie, but I still feel the chosen alternative better describes the quality of such an argumentation).
After that, they'll pressure the Internet to remove all adult content as well.
This amounts to the removal of The Internet. If Apple - or anyone else - would ever ask for this, it's just easier to remove them from the Internet - it's not like it haven't happened in the past.
Windows 7 is stable, usable, and a sufficient progress over windows XP. WIndows XP dominated the last 10 years, and my prediction is that 7 will dominate on PCs in businesses the next 10 years.
Errr... are you sure MS will last that long? It's not like big companies can't go extinct in the course of 10 years.
Samsung wrote the software on their phones, the code they use that they didn't write is licensed to allow them to distribute it. They got block from import. Apple wrote their software too, they also got taken to court over patent issues.
They're distributing derivative works of their own code or code they're licensed to use. I don't see how that is different than distributing the source code.
The phones are not a mean to distribute the code (for which their are sued) as an "form of expression" - the code is integral part of the phone and the phone uses it. If they'd distribute the code by download or burnt on a CD or whatever way the code is not used by phone and the users would load it, then they wouldn't be sued for breach of the patents (but the users loading/executing it would be liable).
The Micks will be disappointed when they realise they are not making potato chips
Even if they'd be potato chips, can you imagine the nutrition level of a 14 nm potato? And if you get to pay $400+ for a "can" of those, would this be a reason for exultation?
He's right. Maybe the majority of Ozzies doesn't, but the Ozzie politicians want to be just like US, mostly the bad part. And, if Ozzies do nothing about, it is the politicians that matter.
* Remember David Hicks? Schapelle Corby had more support from the Howard govt then him.
* Remember Gillard's reaction to Assange's Cablegate? Mastercard used it as a pretext for cutting the transfer of donations to Wikileaks.
* Have you heard of serious "cyber terror" threats in Australia? Gillard says you should be very afraid of it, give away some of you rights and have that "cyber security centre" operational (doesn't matter that the budget for the centre may or may not exists, Roxon - the AG - just can't wait to use the "scare" to push some laws)
* Wonder how the Australia's seat on UN Security Council is seen by its major trading partner, the one that kept Australia sheltered from GFC? Potential sycophancy... would they be right, who's ass Australia is most likely to kiss?
So if I write it myself its source code and its OK. So compiling it and transforming a work into a different format removes the protections of copyright?
No it doesn't remove the protection of copyright: it's a derivative work starting from the original source code. The legality of compilation result will be governed by the license you have for the source code.
That's a little strange, since re-encoding a DVD will get you sued.
Please provide details on what exactly is your point, 'cause I lost you. My initial position: if you write a source code that uses a patent, the copyright law should trump the patent law in regards to the distribution of the source code.
Uh, oh. Does it wake you up that US markets makes 4.9% of Finland's export? Comparing with the exports to Russia of 9.2%, Germany of 10% and Sweden to 11.8%, it seems quite low.
Also, did you know that Finland has less population than New York City? I don't know why I feel all of them will survive quite well to an upset US.
Til somebody claims there's oil under Finland, you mean. Course, it'll be like Iraqi WMDs. Just a claim...
You suggest the US is stupid enough to go to war for whatever "piracy" may be caused by 5.3 millions people?
'Cause Finland still exists after Winter War
The Soviets possessed more than three times as many soldiers as the Finns, thirty times as many aircraft, and a hundred times as many tanks.
Well, I guess that's almost settles it. 'Cause I was let to understand that making rubber from natural gas is on the same order of difficulty as making rubber from uranium.
Yes, all gas is coming from Russia, but You failed to notice that gas is only a minor player in Finnish energy production. 9.6 % of Finnish energy comes from gas. It can also easily be replaced with other sources if need be.
So, are you saying the Finnish people are stupid and buy the rest of 90.4% of gas with no reason, 'cause they actually don't need it at all?
They can. But there will be consequences. Unfortunately US is one of biggest consumers and no politician in it's right mind would want to piss off it and face problems with exports to US. But exports gives you jobs and allows you to repay debt you took to finance roads, schools, etc.
It's not that simple.
Uh, oh. Does it wake you up that US markets makes 4.9% of Finland's export? Comparing with the exports to Russia of 9.2%, Germany of 10% and Sweden to 11.8%, it seems quite low.
Also, did you know that Finland has less population than New York City? I don't know why I feel all of them will survive quite well to an upset US.
Its not particularly easy to make it from methane.
You reckon? Care to google for "BuNa rubbers"? Zy germanz used to make it back in 1935 - granted, they started from coal, which made the thing a bit harder.
ps. Of course open source needs very strong copyright protection so it can not be turn to closed source.
No, it does not need more copyright protection then any other creation. If a software doesn't evolve for 7 years, do you think that software worth much? And, if does evolve, you think a 7 years old version entering public domain (and being included in a closed source software) is something to be scared of?
With 5 nuclear plants, Finland is not at all dependent on Russian gas.
It's not depending 100% on electric energy. But, you know, it's quite hard to make rubber from uranium, even harder to become the highest profitable tyre manufacturer in the world.
International treaties is the key. Why do you think all copyright legislation has started as treaties? Because no voter in sane mind would force such law upon it's country. But voter doesn't understand, doesn't bother him - at least it's regular thinking of politicians these days. So they agree to treaty, then just come home and say "we done anything we could, but this must be a law now".
And? If, by popular demand, the law is amended so that gets incompatible with the signed treaty, you think is impossible for the country to walk back from that treaty? Think again
Another important distinction between a treaty and a conventional contract is that a treaty lacks any enforcement teeth.
They can fix and improve and change as much as they want. The moment it is out and the US doesnt like it, starts accusing Finland of "theft" and threatens painful trade sanctions, they will have to revert it back or face consequences more severe than putting up with the current copyright.
Copyright is simply too valuable for the few influential stakeholders to be allowed to be decided democratically.
What more US can do that has not already done to Finland? I mean, look... isn't enough they pushed Elop as the Nokia head? (grin: it's Obama's fault, isn't it?)
With a AAA credit rating, the only nasty thing would scare the Finnish people would be the Russian to cut their gas (100% dependence on Russia).
Just because our DNA is built this way doesn't mean that we can change it.
Bioengineering and Nanoengineering are going to be some of the coolest things to do for a long time to come.
True, brother, but not for you... not for you.
It almost can feel some slightly trembling of your hands as you fingers miss some key while typing, a certain lack of attention and all that... signs of age catching up with you; you can no more change that DNA of yours, you simply don't have enough time to do significant discoveries... and posting on/. won't give you more of that precious time.
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then pro-copyright extremists will argue that running or using a proxy is prima faece evidence of criminality and then lobby hard to make it illegal.
FTFY (true, the correct fix would have been prima facie, but I still feel the chosen alternative better describes the quality of such an argumentation).
After that, they'll pressure the Internet to remove all adult content as well.
This amounts to the removal of The Internet.
If Apple - or anyone else - would ever ask for this, it's just easier to remove them from the Internet - it's not like it haven't happened in the past.
Windows 7 is stable, usable, and a sufficient progress over windows XP. WIndows XP dominated the last 10 years, and my prediction is that 7 will dominate on PCs in businesses the next 10 years.
Errr... are you sure MS will last that long? It's not like big companies can't go extinct in the course of 10 years.
Samsung wrote the software on their phones, the code they use that they didn't write is licensed to allow them to distribute it. They got block from import. Apple wrote their software too, they also got taken to court over patent issues.
They're distributing derivative works of their own code or code they're licensed to use. I don't see how that is different than distributing the source code.
The phones are not a mean to distribute the code (for which their are sued) as an "form of expression" - the code is integral part of the phone and the phone uses it.
If they'd distribute the code by download or burnt on a CD or whatever way the code is not used by phone and the users would load it, then they wouldn't be sued for breach of the patents (but the users loading/executing it would be liable).
The Micks will be disappointed when they realise they are not making potato chips
Even if they'd be potato chips, can you imagine the nutrition level of a 14 nm potato? And if you get to pay $400+ for a "can" of those, would this be a reason for exultation?
Wanna bet they'll still shift the profit to Cayman island and the only tax the Irish will collect is the income tax of the employees?
Hear, hear!
Carry on, Opportunity, your sister will always be with you in Spirit.
Oblig. FTFY
have any evidence of that, idiot?
He's right. Maybe the majority of Ozzies doesn't, but the Ozzie politicians want to be just like US, mostly the bad part. And, if Ozzies do nothing about, it is the politicians that matter.
* Remember David Hicks? Schapelle Corby had more support from the Howard govt then him. ... would they be right, who's ass Australia is most likely to kiss?
* Remember Gillard's reaction to Assange's Cablegate? Mastercard used it as a pretext for cutting the transfer of donations to Wikileaks.
* Have you heard of serious "cyber terror" threats in Australia? Gillard says you should be very afraid of it, give away some of you rights and have that "cyber security centre" operational (doesn't matter that the budget for the centre may or may not exists, Roxon - the AG - just can't wait to use the "scare" to push some laws)
* Wonder how the Australia's seat on UN Security Council is seen by its major trading partner, the one that kept Australia sheltered from GFC? Potential sycophancy
So if I write it myself its source code and its OK. So compiling it and transforming a work into a different format removes the protections of copyright?
No it doesn't remove the protection of copyright: it's a derivative work starting from the original source code. The legality of compilation result will be governed by the license you have for the source code.
That's a little strange, since re-encoding a DVD will get you sued.
Please provide details on what exactly is your point, 'cause I lost you.
My initial position: if you write a source code that uses a patent, the copyright law should trump the patent law in regards to the distribution of the source code.
Uh, oh. Does it wake you up that US markets makes 4.9% of Finland's export? Comparing with the exports to Russia of 9.2%, Germany of 10% and Sweden to 11.8%, it seems quite low.
Also, did you know that Finland has less population than New York City? I don't know why I feel all of them will survive quite well to an upset US.
Til somebody claims there's oil under Finland, you mean. Course, it'll be like Iraqi WMDs. Just a claim...
You suggest the US is stupid enough to go to war for whatever "piracy" may be caused by 5.3 millions people?
'Cause Finland still exists after Winter War
The Soviets possessed more than three times as many soldiers as the Finns, thirty times as many aircraft, and a hundred times as many tanks.
I said not easy , I didn't say impossible.
Well, I guess that's almost settles it. 'Cause I was let to understand that making rubber from natural gas is on the same order of difficulty as making rubber from uranium.
Yes, all gas is coming from Russia, but You failed to notice that gas is only a minor player in Finnish energy production. 9.6 % of Finnish energy comes from gas. It can also easily be replaced with other sources if need be.
So, are you saying the Finnish people are stupid and buy the rest of 90.4% of gas with no reason, 'cause they actually don't need it at all?
Grammar and context... pay attention to them.
They can. But there will be consequences. Unfortunately US is one of biggest consumers and no politician in it's right mind would want to piss off it and face problems with exports to US. But exports gives you jobs and allows you to repay debt you took to finance roads, schools, etc.
It's not that simple.
Uh, oh. Does it wake you up that US markets makes 4.9% of Finland's export? Comparing with the exports to Russia of 9.2%, Germany of 10% and Sweden to 11.8%, it seems quite low.
Also, did you know that Finland has less population than New York City? I don't know why I feel all of them will survive quite well to an upset US.
"it's quite hard to make rubber from uranium,"
Its not particularly easy to make it from methane.
You reckon? Care to google for "BuNa rubbers"? Zy germanz used to make it back in 1935 - granted, they started from coal, which made the thing a bit harder.
ps. Of course open source needs very strong copyright protection so it can not be turn to closed source.
No, it does not need more copyright protection then any other creation. If a software doesn't evolve for 7 years, do you think that software worth much? And, if does evolve, you think a 7 years old version entering public domain (and being included in a closed source software) is something to be scared of?
With 5 nuclear plants, Finland is not at all dependent on Russian gas.
It's not depending 100% on electric energy.
But, you know, it's quite hard to make rubber from uranium, even harder to become the highest profitable tyre manufacturer in the world.
International treaties is the key. Why do you think all copyright legislation has started as treaties? Because no voter in sane mind would force such law upon it's country. But voter doesn't understand, doesn't bother him - at least it's regular thinking of politicians these days. So they agree to treaty, then just come home and say "we done anything we could, but this must be a law now".
And? If, by popular demand, the law is amended so that gets incompatible with the signed treaty, you think is impossible for the country to walk back from that treaty? Think again
Another important distinction between a treaty and a conventional contract is that a treaty lacks any enforcement teeth.
It is not like US never broke a treaty.
They can fix and improve and change as much as they want. The moment it is out and the US doesnt like it, starts accusing Finland of "theft" and threatens painful trade sanctions, they will have to revert it back or face consequences more severe than putting up with the current copyright.
Copyright is simply too valuable for the few influential stakeholders to be allowed to be decided democratically.
What more US can do that has not already done to Finland? I mean, look... isn't enough they pushed Elop as the Nokia head? (grin: it's Obama's fault, isn't it?)
With a AAA credit rating, the only nasty thing would scare the Finnish people would be the Russian to cut their gas (100% dependence on Russia).
I turtose the death penalty for convicted meta colestors.
FTFY
Just because our DNA is built this way doesn't mean that we can change it.
Bioengineering and Nanoengineering are going to be some of the coolest things to do for a long time to come.
True, brother, but not for you... not for you.
It almost can feel some slightly trembling of your hands as you fingers miss some key while typing, a certain lack of attention and all that... signs of age catching up with you; you can no more change that DNA of yours, you simply don't have enough time to do significant discoveries... and posting on /. won't give you more of that precious time.
True - I can imagine nothing more boring that to live on the Arctic ocean floor for 500+ years.
So, shining a green laser into some goggles: what can go wrong?
So if I happen to write machine code myself, that machine code is protected free speech too.
As long as it's source code, yes. Shouldn't matter if the source code is binary.
If you think it's crazy, don't blame me: IP validly stands for "Internet Protocol" and "Imaginary property".