Does it need continuous power to stay capable of operating? Or could it just wait over winter without power to see if there was a storm that cleaned its solar panels, and continue when more power is available again?
They're trying to spin the wheels so that the rover digs deeper in the sand, but could adjust solar panels in to better position. It probably couldn't get up from there anymore, but could still remain in operation in the sand pit.
Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?
But without Spirit, is there really any Opportunity to succeed?
You think normal people are going to ask if their phone supports IPv6 when they're buying it? And why should had the GP anyway, since IPv4 still works just fine?
Yep, that just tells that all of this "we are running out of ip addresses!" is just nonsense still, especially if ISP's are able to give 32 public ip's to a single home customer.
Seeing the state of IPv6 and how many devices still don't support it, I think thats a pretty good idea. That being said, IPv6 support should be fully done in new devices, OS and programs already, because you need to give some time for old devices too so they can still work under IPv4.
But on another thing, I really doubt we are just a few years ago from IPv4 addresses going out of stock. There's still many/8 unallocated to anyone, most ISP's still give their users 5 ip addresses on home lines and from most hosting companies you can buy new ip's for $1-3 per piece. If we will be running out of them, we will first see hosting companies upping their prices and home ISP's limiting how many IP's they give to customers. And that will come far before we're actually out of address space.
No, not really. There's companies with whole fucking/8 that have no real purpose to own them, but they've just always had them:
003/8 General Electric Company 1994-05 LEGACY 004/8 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 1992-12 LEGACY 008/8 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 1992-12 LEGACY (two/8's ?) 009/8 IBM 1992-08 LEGACY 013/8 Xerox Corporation 1991-09 LEGACY 015/8 Hewlett-Packard Company 1994-07 LEGACY 016/8 Digital Equipment Corporation 1994-11 LEGACY 017/8 Apple Computer Inc. 1992-07 LEGACY 019/8 Ford Motor Company 1995-05 LEGACY 034/8 Halliburton Company 1993-03 LEGACY 044/8 Amateur Radio Digital Communications 1992-07 LEGACY 045/8 Interop Show Network 1995-01 LEGACY 047/8 Bell-Northern Research 1991-01 LEGACY 048/8 Prudential Securities Inc. 1995-05 LEGACY 052/8 E.I. duPont de Nemours and Co., Inc. 1991-12 LEGACY 053/8 Cap Debis CCS 1993-10 LEGACY 054/8 Merck and Co., Inc. 1992-03 LEGACY 056/8 US Postal Service 1994-06 LEGACY
Just get rid of the companies that are reserving such huge spaces without having a real reason to do so, other than that they were there to reserve them in start of 90's. Also US and UK army and defence and other ministers have several/8, but why really? Other countries do just fine without too.
So they will release an unlocker or something similar then, like they have said. Yeah it's only their words, but others have done so too. Not that I think Valve or Steam will die anytime soon, they're completely owning their business area.
And what comes to GPP's "you don't actually own the games you pay for on steam", you don't own your physical games either. You're only licensed to use them. And your WoW and MMO's are pretty unusable too when their servers go.
And in addition to wasting time on social networks and useless sites, your boss will love you for spending even more time trying to circumvent their security and policies. Arrogant hackers doing what they're told not to do aren't that "cool" in the real world, and it wont save your job.
Exactly, and along the way when you're trying to do that and try to get around things you probably trigger tons of alerts and warnings in the IT department. If you're willing to go thru all what the GP described, maybe you should just stay at home and stop wasting everyones time and money.
I think the scam is that you have to use their in-game cash (Farm Cash) to buy fuel refills for the tractors/harvesters/seeders. They don't have a current way to either get fuel as a gift or to purchase it with coins - the in-game currency that you gain by planting and harvesting crops.
How is that a scam? It's not scamming people out of their money - they know they're buying in-game cash for the game to get fuel.
Just last week, during the holidays, we had to scramble after one of our Cloud providers ran into some hardware problems and couldn't get our service restored in a timely manner.
You claim to be having technical knowledge but fail to see that "Cloud" services are just managed servers? The exact same hardware problems and related slowness in restoring them could happen just as well for your dedicated servers.
And what do you ever mean by taking a stand? Write useless comments how bad "cloud" is on slashdot without ever understanding yourself what it is? Just don't use them if you think they're bad, it's simple as that. It's not replacing anything.
Alpha Centauri would had been great otherwise, but future scifi thing wasn't that interesting for me. Not really the history part in Civ's either tho, I always just rushed to modern day with technology, but it's the necessary evil to build up your civilization for the modern days.
Some mix between Civ 2 and Civ 4 would be great. Better AI, better diplomacy and other little improvements, but the interface should stay the same. They should do a 15th year anniversary edition for next year, like Blue Byte did with Settlers 2.
"Civilization IV: Colonization Called 'Morally Disturbing'"
I literally exclaimed "holy sh*t" out loud when I was reading an e-mail this morning listing the "Games for Windows" coming out this year and I came across this:
“Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: Colonization” (2K Games). In “Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: Colonization,” players lead one of four European nations on a quest to conquer and rule the New World."
But goddamit, am I the only one who think it's morally disturbing to make a game that celebrates COLONIZATION? It's ironic, actually, because just a few months ago a friend sent me a link to some information about the original "Colonization" game from 1994 (pictured left) that this one updates. At first, I thought it had to be a joke, but sure enough, it was real. However, I dismissed it as a relic from a time when neither developers nor players took videogames seriously as media with moral implications.
But the idea that 2K and Firaxis and Sid Meier himself would make and release a game in the year 2008 that is not only about colonization, but celebrates it by having the player control the people doing the colonizing is truly mind boggling.
Remember all the debate when Newsweek's N'Gai Croal said of the "Resident Evil 5" trailer with the African zombies that "Even if you are familiar with the franchise, if you are familiar with those images and their historical weight, you look at it and say, 'Man, that’s kind of messed up.'" Well, I agreed with N'Gai on that issue, but in my opinion, a game about colonization is about 100 times more messed up. "Throughout history, colonization regularly involved stealing, killing, abuse, deceit, and the exploitation or decimation of native people," he added. "Anybody with a shred of moral conscience who studies the history will be appalled. Whether it was British rule in India or slavery in Africa or Aboriginal children kidnapped and taken to Christian schools in Australia or the dislocation of Native Americans in the U.S., there were no positive colonization experiences."
Fritz said he's not calling for a ban on the game, emphasizing that 2K has every right to release it for sale. "But I think personally they shouldn't release it, if it's at all what it appears to be based on the early marketing," he continued. "And I'm hoping a lot of people agree with me and will say so publicly."
That's pretty ridiculous. Imagine if he knew there were nuclear weapons and slaves in Civ 4.
And even more so, why should you hate or think the people are "stupid" just because they pay for entertainment they enjoy? I wouldn't pay for it. I don't think it makes that much sense either. But if they like it and think it's worth it, just let them do what they want. It doesn't make them more stupid, they just have different priorities or things they enjoy.
Just as well as they probably think you are being stupid to buy that newest $800 graphic card or spend so much configuring your linux when you could just run windows or mac.
I think that is also what will eventually fail with US. People have been adjusted to high standards of living, 24/7 entertainment and generally 'lazy' lifestyle and as time passes by, the problem just grows.
During that countries like China with billions of people, but not good standard of living or 24/7 entertainment will grow. They even banned porn so people don't get distracted or start to exchange other things in life for it (you need to take care of your sexuality with other people, and won't grow used to normal sex and go look for more kinky stuff). You can see the cultural difference in games too; asian MMO's are generally grind fests, but they like it.
It's a problem of 'freedom' and laziness of people.
Of course its different and I'm sure he didn't really mean its comparable like that, but just gave an example (a car one too!) of the scale. It's also a far better business model than advertisement, since people like to feel better in games or have some advantages. Is it really that useful? Maybe not, but its entertaining for them, so let people do what they find entertaining.
I agree somewhat that the scammy ads thing was uncalled against Zynga, since those ads were given to players by their advertising company and their advertisers. You should instead go after the people who make scam products, otherwise they'll just move to other avenues and scam different people. Go to the source of the problem.
What I found interesting from the comments was
Electronic Arts (ERTS) market cap is $5.8bln. Zynga is rumored to be around 1/6th. I'd like to be Zynga right now as they are built around the new model in the gaming industry.
Even if we all here on/. hate twitter and facebook and such social sites (you have to interact with people!), social games on them seem to be a really big business. And it won't change from the "but they aren't real games and they're dumb!" yelling, because casual people like to play them and theres huge untapped revenues there.
Yeah yeah, you don't enjoy games so no one should. In fact, let's ban all entertainment. They aren't really "real" and (directly) "productive" products either.
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Does it need continuous power to stay capable of operating? Or could it just wait over winter without power to see if there was a storm that cleaned its solar panels, and continue when more power is available again?
They're trying to spin the wheels so that the rover digs deeper in the sand, but could adjust solar panels in to better position. It probably couldn't get up from there anymore, but could still remain in operation in the sand pit.
Also, if you're putting a robot on a sand planet, wouldn't it kind of make sense to have some fans to blow off the sand from the solar panels?
But without Spirit, is there really any Opportunity to succeed?
Maybe he shouldn't had sold it in the first time, so he wouldn't be crying it back now?
It's like you broke up with your girlfriend and then go crying her back when she has found a new guy, while you're having no luck.
You think normal people are going to ask if their phone supports IPv6 when they're buying it? And why should had the GP anyway, since IPv4 still works just fine?
But the truth is, NAT usually accomplish the same (even if unintentionally)
My ISP gives 5 public ip's, but I know some give even more (like in GP's case too)
Yep, that just tells that all of this "we are running out of ip addresses!" is just nonsense still, especially if ISP's are able to give 32 public ip's to a single home customer.
Seeing the state of IPv6 and how many devices still don't support it, I think thats a pretty good idea. That being said, IPv6 support should be fully done in new devices, OS and programs already, because you need to give some time for old devices too so they can still work under IPv4.
But on another thing, I really doubt we are just a few years ago from IPv4 addresses going out of stock. There's still many /8 unallocated to anyone, most ISP's still give their users 5 ip addresses on home lines and from most hosting companies you can buy new ip's for $1-3 per piece. If we will be running out of them, we will first see hosting companies upping their prices and home ISP's limiting how many IP's they give to customers. And that will come far before we're actually out of address space.
As long as they don't take away 69.69.69.69 from it's owner:
$ host 69.69.69.69
69.69.69.69.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer the-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com.
No, not really. There's companies with whole fucking /8 that have no real purpose to own them, but they've just always had them:
003/8 General Electric Company 1994-05 LEGACY /8's ?)
004/8 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 1992-12 LEGACY
008/8 Level 3 Communications, Inc. 1992-12 LEGACY (two
009/8 IBM 1992-08 LEGACY
013/8 Xerox Corporation 1991-09 LEGACY
015/8 Hewlett-Packard Company 1994-07 LEGACY
016/8 Digital Equipment Corporation 1994-11 LEGACY
017/8 Apple Computer Inc. 1992-07 LEGACY
019/8 Ford Motor Company 1995-05 LEGACY
034/8 Halliburton Company 1993-03 LEGACY
044/8 Amateur Radio Digital Communications 1992-07 LEGACY
045/8 Interop Show Network 1995-01 LEGACY
047/8 Bell-Northern Research 1991-01 LEGACY
048/8 Prudential Securities Inc. 1995-05 LEGACY
052/8 E.I. duPont de Nemours and Co., Inc. 1991-12 LEGACY
053/8 Cap Debis CCS 1993-10 LEGACY
054/8 Merck and Co., Inc. 1992-03 LEGACY
056/8 US Postal Service 1994-06 LEGACY
Just get rid of the companies that are reserving such huge spaces without having a real reason to do so, other than that they were there to reserve them in start of 90's. Also US and UK army and defence and other ministers have several /8, but why really? Other countries do just fine without too.
So they will release an unlocker or something similar then, like they have said. Yeah it's only their words, but others have done so too. Not that I think Valve or Steam will die anytime soon, they're completely owning their business area.
And what comes to GPP's "you don't actually own the games you pay for on steam", you don't own your physical games either. You're only licensed to use them. And your WoW and MMO's are pretty unusable too when their servers go.
It's just perfect use for games, from flight simulators to city building and civilization series. It's a lot more fun to play on real terrain.
And in addition to wasting time on social networks and useless sites, your boss will love you for spending even more time trying to circumvent their security and policies. Arrogant hackers doing what they're told not to do aren't that "cool" in the real world, and it wont save your job.
Exactly, and along the way when you're trying to do that and try to get around things you probably trigger tons of alerts and warnings in the IT department. If you're willing to go thru all what the GP described, maybe you should just stay at home and stop wasting everyones time and money.
I think the scam is that you have to use their in-game cash (Farm Cash) to buy fuel refills for the tractors/harvesters/seeders. They don't have a current way to either get fuel as a gift or to purchase it with coins - the in-game currency that you gain by planting and harvesting crops.
How is that a scam? It's not scamming people out of their money - they know they're buying in-game cash for the game to get fuel.
And what does this have to do with the story?
Just last week, during the holidays, we had to scramble after one of our Cloud providers ran into some hardware problems and couldn't get our service restored in a timely manner.
You claim to be having technical knowledge but fail to see that "Cloud" services are just managed servers? The exact same hardware problems and related slowness in restoring them could happen just as well for your dedicated servers.
And what do you ever mean by taking a stand? Write useless comments how bad "cloud" is on slashdot without ever understanding yourself what it is? Just don't use them if you think they're bad, it's simple as that. It's not replacing anything.
Alpha Centauri would had been great otherwise, but future scifi thing wasn't that interesting for me. Not really the history part in Civ's either tho, I always just rushed to modern day with technology, but it's the necessary evil to build up your civilization for the modern days.
Some mix between Civ 2 and Civ 4 would be great. Better AI, better diplomacy and other little improvements, but the interface should stay the same. They should do a 15th year anniversary edition for next year, like Blue Byte did with Settlers 2.
On a slightly related funny note, people really bitch about everything:
"Civilization IV: Colonization Called 'Morally Disturbing'"
I literally exclaimed "holy sh*t" out loud when I was reading an e-mail this morning listing the "Games for Windows" coming out this year and I came across this:
“Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: Colonization” (2K Games). In “Sid Meier’s Civilization IV: Colonization,” players lead one of four European nations on a quest to conquer and rule the New World."
But goddamit, am I the only one who think it's morally disturbing to make a game that celebrates COLONIZATION? It's ironic, actually, because just a few months ago a friend sent me a link to some information about the original "Colonization" game from 1994 (pictured left) that this one updates. At first, I thought it had to be a joke, but sure enough, it was real. However, I dismissed it as a relic from a time when neither developers nor players took videogames seriously as media with moral implications.
But the idea that 2K and Firaxis and Sid Meier himself would make and release a game in the year 2008 that is not only about colonization, but celebrates it by having the player control the people doing the colonizing is truly mind boggling.
Remember all the debate when Newsweek's N'Gai Croal said of the "Resident Evil 5" trailer with the African zombies that "Even if you are familiar with the franchise, if you are familiar with those images and their historical weight, you look at it and say, 'Man, that’s kind of messed up.'" Well, I agreed with N'Gai on that issue, but in my opinion, a game about colonization is about 100 times more messed up. "Throughout history, colonization regularly involved stealing, killing, abuse, deceit, and the exploitation or decimation of native people," he added. "Anybody with a shred of moral conscience who studies the history will be appalled. Whether it was British rule in India or slavery in Africa or Aboriginal children kidnapped and taken to Christian schools in Australia or the dislocation of Native Americans in the U.S., there were no positive colonization experiences."
Fritz said he's not calling for a ban on the game, emphasizing that 2K has every right to release it for sale. "But I think personally they shouldn't release it, if it's at all what it appears to be based on the early marketing," he continued. "And I'm hoping a lot of people agree with me and will say so publicly."
That's pretty ridiculous. Imagine if he knew there were nuclear weapons and slaves in Civ 4.
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Thanks.
Now you must be new here.
And even more so, why should you hate or think the people are "stupid" just because they pay for entertainment they enjoy? I wouldn't pay for it. I don't think it makes that much sense either. But if they like it and think it's worth it, just let them do what they want. It doesn't make them more stupid, they just have different priorities or things they enjoy.
Just as well as they probably think you are being stupid to buy that newest $800 graphic card or spend so much configuring your linux when you could just run windows or mac.
I think that is also what will eventually fail with US. People have been adjusted to high standards of living, 24/7 entertainment and generally 'lazy' lifestyle and as time passes by, the problem just grows.
During that countries like China with billions of people, but not good standard of living or 24/7 entertainment will grow. They even banned porn so people don't get distracted or start to exchange other things in life for it (you need to take care of your sexuality with other people, and won't grow used to normal sex and go look for more kinky stuff). You can see the cultural difference in games too; asian MMO's are generally grind fests, but they like it.
It's a problem of 'freedom' and laziness of people.
Of course its different and I'm sure he didn't really mean its comparable like that, but just gave an example (a car one too!) of the scale. It's also a far better business model than advertisement, since people like to feel better in games or have some advantages. Is it really that useful? Maybe not, but its entertaining for them, so let people do what they find entertaining.
I agree somewhat that the scammy ads thing was uncalled against Zynga, since those ads were given to players by their advertising company and their advertisers. You should instead go after the people who make scam products, otherwise they'll just move to other avenues and scam different people. Go to the source of the problem.
What I found interesting from the comments was
Electronic Arts (ERTS) market cap is $5.8bln. Zynga is rumored to be around 1/6th. I'd like to be Zynga right now as they are built around the new model in the gaming industry.
Even if we all here on /. hate twitter and facebook and such social sites (you have to interact with people!), social games on them seem to be a really big business. And it won't change from the "but they aren't real games and they're dumb!" yelling, because casual people like to play them and theres huge untapped revenues there.
Yes they do (almost in every atm actually).
Yeah yeah, you don't enjoy games so no one should. In fact, let's ban all entertainment. They aren't really "real" and (directly) "productive" products either.
I get off your lawn now..
Seems Microsoft is supplying some code for EFTPOS machines that is common with Windows Mobile, so it's most likely the same bug in both.