youve got more problems than not being able to verify d/ld files, your machine has already been rooted.
Wouldn't that be the whole point to running a checksum scan on your system's binaries?
*scan* Oh good, everything's fine.
-OR-
The hell? I've been r3wt3d! d00d!
I don't think this is in reference to just verification of "d/ld" files, but a method for scanning your already existing system for problems.
The most secure thing I can think of to do would be have a server box (a nice high powered full-throttle beast, imagine a beowulf cluster of THESE) and a security check box (P3 166 with 64MB RAM/8GB HD is plenty). Have a cron-triggered script and a checksumming verification program on the security box which in the middle of the night, or even at random times whenever, will bring up eth0 on the security box, mount the server's disks over NFS, check them, and then bring down eth0 so as to isolate the security box. Such a thing would probably work better with a cluster of servers, say a load-balancing system of web servers, so that only one box out of the total whole had to be down at once and the rest could still be functioning, while the box being checked is isolated by a controlable router or something. Of course that's gotta be secure, too....ARG headache
and everytime you pirate a cd/game/movie you enjoy you are essentially telling it's creators to go back to busing tables.
No, it's like not saying anything to them at all. They have no idea you ever did it.
What would be better would be to support their compeditors. Then again, that might be like supporting US politicians; no one wants any of them because they're all dirty.(I'm from the U.S. So I'm allowed to make that analogy.)
The problem is that the current legislation is good for all content creators (and terrible for consumers). The big guys get our money, and we get to pay more of it. Therefore, it's not hard to convince our distracted (oblivious?) government entities that the consumers crying for this to end are nothing more than common theves trying to preserve their black market for bootleg movies.
The really sad thing is such piracy situations actually occur, and then lawers use the scam as an excuse to pull their own scam to help make more money on top the the billions they already take in.
I come to the comments looking for reactions to this new drive and I see people mostly making the same, overused, modded up six other times already joke. Mostly...
Oops.
(The apparantly unobvious thing about my sarcasm is that it's apparant to pretty much only the people who watch South Park. Apparantly...)
Of course there need to be differences. For example, current US copyright law explicitly gives permission for a legitimate owner of a copyrighted program to create a backup copy. There is no such permission for books.
On the contrary, I feel there should be no differences in the law. Why don't I have the right to make a backup copy of my books in case originals are destroyed/stolen/accedentally used to line the bird cage?
I can't copy it without permission, but I can sell my copy without getting permission from the copyright holder. The "content industry" would dearly like to get rid of that concept.
Sick, sad, and true. Just wait until the concept of "Pay Per View" becomes more than a cable televeision special concept.
That kind of statement leads me to believe you've never used a Unix operating system in your entire life.
Unix is more powerful than Windows, more reliable than Windows, and faster than Windows. As such, it is much more complex than Windows, and to properly administrate it requires a lot of learning and experience.
If by "good" Windows admin you mean someone who can actually keep it from crashing, perhaps I see what you're getting at;-)
I just tested this over an FTP connection to a Mac OS X 10.2.2 box using Transmit (a Mac FTP client) from a MacOS 9 machine.
I was ABLE to panic the kernel remotely.
This has just taken a violent swing into serious, as ANY USER WITH FTP ACCESS can now drop your Mac OS X machine. Apple needs to patch this, and quickly. I don't care if the security update is 15k to replace/bin/mv, anyone who has an FTP cannot live like this.
Any idea what eactly could be wrong with either the kernel or mv that would cause such a problem? Branching to the wrong case (i.e. branching to the "same name" case as opposed to the "can't replace a directory with an item it contains" case)?
Is this a job for the Darwin team since it involves a BSD component?
No no no... unprivledged access. Any user. I just tested this with the root account, my acccount which is in the admin group, and a plain account. All worked.
Exactly, simply because the computer isn't something you have to set time asside for any longer, it's as easy to walk up and get what you want at anytime as using a microwave.
Called Open Value, the new offer is part of the software giant's Licensing 6 volume licensing program.
Open Value? Is that supposed to be the "more valuable" alternative to Open Source? You know, I wonder: with all it's size, money, and influence, would Microsoft actually be a really fscking good company if MARKETING wasn't in charge?
Yes I realize that YOU realize it's fake, but let's go over it for the lunatic fringe:
Having worked with theater/studio lighting myself, I can tell you that if a REAL light rigs are held with many safety backup cables, and if one did manage to fall, it woul dhave knocked "Neal Armstrong" there flat on his ass, and probably injured him severely. Especially older equipment which was heavier + more delecate.
At the end of the clip they immidiately raise the astronaut back on to the ladder, and crew members rush to correct the set. Fake, the ground would be disturbed and would need lots of cleanup to be made nice again, and it sure doesn't take 5 minutes to aquire and re-rig lighting fixtures. I doubt they'd leave him on the set in costume for 3 hours while they fixed up the set.
That, and it looked nothing like the real shot of the first moon steps. The color tone is off, and there was no hum or fan noise or whatever that is in the background. Definately a faker.
HTML Character Reference Entities, the little markups that give you special and extended characters, added for cross-platform character set and Unicode compatability within browsers for special and scientific characters.
See here. Apparently only the < and > and & are allowed now. No more ™:-(
True, it's just unfortunate that some have to er.."suffer" because people need to feel l33t and play invincible...
Possibly server-side checks to game anomolies? I.E. This didnt' quite happen as expected, so check the following disk sectors for modifications, check firmware, check for second drive, etc. But now we're talking more bandwidth and server power, and staying ahead fo that game could quickly become unmanageable.
It would be great to see some kind of creative system for preventing cheats while allowing "fair" mods, however, and to see what cheaters would do to try to try and exploit it. Almost a game in itself.;-)
You do realize that checksuming the disk would require reading the entire disk, right?
Not nessisarily, refer to my other reply somewhere in this thread regarding sectional checksums. Basically a scheme for the XBL server to query for specific sector-sector checksums at random. Coudl even happen durring disk-idle times while the game is playing to prevent some kind of "swap-for-a-cheat-disk" method.
Either way someone will crack the mod detection on XBL anyways, it's a never ending battle, no matter which way you slice it.
If this was true, why wouldn't they just do something like what DirecTV does and actualy disable the hardware?
MS do something logical? Ummmm;-)
There aren't many things that I typically defend Microsoft for, but I think they're doing the right thing here. You can mod you box, but then you can't use it with their online service. What's wrong with that?
Well, nothing much, I suppose. My point with all this is it would have been nice is MS had taken a friendlier approach to it. What's wrong with modding my box if the games I play online are checked for validity and fairness anyways?
Should MS sell a Linux version of the XBox for $500 since it won't be used for gaming?
I hope you are serious with this statement, because think about this. $500 for a web server/mail/ftp server? Custom PVR? Anything else that Linux can do? And when you get bored in the middle of the night, watch a movie or play a game (possibly not online but oh-well)?
Hell, that's almost cheaper than building your own hardware. And it's not like Linux costs anything...
But it'll never happen. You gotta admit all this "MS should accomodate" sutff I've been posting sure sounds good but the reality is even if they found a way to work it in their advantage, they'd never do it. Even if it ran Windows only, and even if if cost $1000.
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Wouldn't that be the whole point to running a checksum scan on your system's binaries?
*scan* Oh good, everything's fine.
-OR-
The hell? I've been r3wt3d! d00d!
I don't think this is in reference to just verification of "d/ld" files, but a method for scanning your already existing system for problems.
The most secure thing I can think of to do would be have a server box (a nice high powered full-throttle beast, imagine a beowulf cluster of THESE) and a security check box (P3 166 with 64MB RAM/8GB HD is plenty). Have a cron-triggered script and a checksumming verification program on the security box which in the middle of the night, or even at random times whenever, will bring up eth0 on the security box, mount the server's disks over NFS, check them, and then bring down eth0 so as to isolate the security box. Such a thing would probably work better with a cluster of servers, say a load-balancing system of web servers, so that only one box out of the total whole had to be down at once and the rest could still be functioning, while the box being checked is isolated by a controlable router or something. Of course that's gotta be secure, too....ARG headache
and everytime you pirate a cd/game/movie you enjoy you are essentially telling it's creators to go back to busing tables.
No, it's like not saying anything to them at all. They have no idea you ever did it.
What would be better would be to support their compeditors. Then again, that might be like supporting US politicians; no one wants any of them because they're all dirty.(I'm from the U.S. So I'm allowed to make that analogy.)
The problem is that the current legislation is good for all content creators (and terrible for consumers). The big guys get our money, and we get to pay more of it. Therefore, it's not hard to convince our distracted (oblivious?) government entities that the consumers crying for this to end are nothing more than common theves trying to preserve their black market for bootleg movies.
The really sad thing is such piracy situations actually occur, and then lawers use the scam as an excuse to pull their own scam to help make more money on top the the billions they already take in.
Can you sue for "unfairness to consumers"?
I propose to say "Sit your bitch ass in .xxx, or live without a website."
Yea, mostly...
Imagine a pretty cool beowulf cluster of these portable MP3 collections?
Apparantly many will believe such things, as they strive to get the latest and greatest, apparently.
I come to the comments looking for reactions to this new drive and I see people mostly making the same, overused, modded up six other times already joke. Mostly...
Oops.
(The apparantly unobvious thing about my sarcasm is that it's apparant to pretty much only the people who watch South Park. Apparantly...)
Of course there need to be differences. For example, current US copyright law explicitly gives permission for a legitimate owner of a copyrighted program to create a backup copy. There is no such permission for books.
On the contrary, I feel there should be no differences in the law. Why don't I have the right to make a backup copy of my books in case originals are destroyed/stolen/accedentally used to line the bird cage?
I can't copy it without permission, but I can sell my copy without getting permission from the copyright holder. The "content industry" would dearly like to get rid of that concept.
Sick, sad, and true. Just wait until the concept of "Pay Per View" becomes more than a cable televeision special concept.
Word.
...ummm
:-)
So I guess we agree then?
That kind of statement leads me to believe you've never used a Unix operating system in your entire life.
Unix is more powerful than Windows, more reliable than Windows, and faster than Windows. As such, it is much more complex than Windows, and to properly administrate it requires a lot of learning and experience.
If by "good" Windows admin you mean someone who can actually keep it from crashing, perhaps I see what you're getting at
I just tested this over an FTP connection to a Mac OS X 10.2.2 box using Transmit (a Mac FTP client) from a MacOS 9 machine.
I was ABLE to panic the kernel remotely.
This has just taken a violent swing into serious, as ANY USER WITH FTP ACCESS can now drop your Mac OS X machine. Apple needs to patch this, and quickly. I don't care if the security update is 15k to replace
Any idea what eactly could be wrong with either the kernel or mv that would cause such a problem? Branching to the wrong case (i.e. branching to the "same name" case as opposed to the "can't replace a directory with an item it contains" case)?
Is this a job for the Darwin team since it involves a BSD component?
No no no... unprivledged access. Any user. I just tested this with the root account, my acccount which is in the admin group, and a plain account. All worked.
This needs to be fixed immidiately.
I just tested this over FTP. Boom.
Exactly, simply because the computer isn't something you have to set time asside for any longer, it's as easy to walk up and get what you want at anytime as using a microwave.
even taking them to to moon to see the site themselves would result in claims of planting the "props" there before they got there.
"These are just PROPS! It's impossible to go to the moon, I say! *beep*"
"Oh, wait a minute... *beep*"
- Having worked with theater/studio lighting myself, I can tell you that if a REAL light rigs are held with many safety backup cables, and if one did manage to fall, it woul dhave knocked "Neal Armstrong" there flat on his ass, and probably injured him severely. Especially older equipment which was heavier + more delecate.
- At the end of the clip they immidiately raise the astronaut back on to the ladder, and crew members rush to correct the set. Fake, the ground would be disturbed and would need lots of cleanup to be made nice again, and it sure doesn't take 5 minutes to aquire and re-rig lighting fixtures. I doubt they'd leave him on the set in costume for 3 hours while they fixed up the set.
That, and it looked nothing like the real shot of the first moon steps. The color tone is off, and there was no hum or fan noise or whatever that is in the background. Definately a faker.It did, however, make me laugh my ass off.
No, I dont' mean HTML TAGS, I mean stuff like HTML Character Reference Entities, the little markups that give you special and extended characters, added for cross-platform character set and Unicode compatability within browsers for special and scientific characters.
See here. Apparently only the < and > and & are allowed now. No more ™
When did /. stop allowing HTML entities in text??
As much as I love Apple, not a damn person in the general public knows what you're talking about. ID4 was product placement.
*closes clock-is-ticking app and disconnects from afp://.dnydns.org*
...and there are no such things as alien file servers. Sheesh.
Wouldn't he be referencing wholesalers cracking down on retailers?
After all, I don't know to many people who krak warez'd copies of x-mas sale prices and put them on their FTP.
True, it's just unfortunate that some have to er.."suffer" because people need to feel l33t and play invincible...
Possibly server-side checks to game anomolies? I.E. This didnt' quite happen as expected, so check the following disk sectors for modifications, check firmware, check for second drive, etc. But now we're talking more bandwidth and server power, and staying ahead fo that game could quickly become unmanageable.
It would be great to see some kind of creative system for preventing cheats while allowing "fair" mods, however, and to see what cheaters would do to try to try and exploit it. Almost a game in itself.
You do realize that checksuming the disk would require reading the entire disk, right?
;-)
Not nessisarily, refer to my other reply somewhere in this thread regarding sectional checksums. Basically a scheme for the XBL server to query for specific sector-sector checksums at random. Coudl even happen durring disk-idle times while the game is playing to prevent some kind of "swap-for-a-cheat-disk" method.
Either way someone will crack the mod detection on XBL anyways, it's a never ending battle, no matter which way you slice it.
If this was true, why wouldn't they just do something like what DirecTV does and actualy disable the hardware?
MS do something logical? Ummmm
There aren't many things that I typically defend Microsoft for, but I think they're doing the right thing here. You can mod you box, but then you can't use it with their online service. What's wrong with that?
Well, nothing much, I suppose. My point with all this is it would have been nice is MS had taken a friendlier approach to it. What's wrong with modding my box if the games I play online are checked for validity and fairness anyways?
I get the point. Dont' buy Sony, or I contribute to the RIAA/DMCA problem.
I'll buy a used one. At least that way, Sony doesn't get any more money than they already did. (Goes for games, too.)
WTF.
Should MS sell a Linux version of the XBox for $500 since it won't be used for gaming?
I hope you are serious with this statement, because think about this. $500 for a web server/mail/ftp server? Custom PVR? Anything else that Linux can do? And when you get bored in the middle of the night, watch a movie or play a game (possibly not online but oh-well)?
Hell, that's almost cheaper than building your own hardware. And it's not like Linux costs anything...
But it'll never happen. You gotta admit all this "MS should accomodate" sutff I've been posting sure sounds good but the reality is even if they found a way to work it in their advantage, they'd never do it. Even if it ran Windows only, and even if if cost $1000.
Which sucks balls, but that's reality I guess.