But where do you stop with pi how many extra decimal places are there to use.
I prefer 22/7 for pi but it still isn't really pi.
Can you give me something to really use or just another approximation.
So you have to go back to significant digits and in some cases 3 is an ok number for pi. Though not in much maths I do.
Though I don't use this for pi. As that degree of accuracy is not needed.
Oh it all to confusing I don't want to use 3 and and don't want to use 1000 so I will use 1024 for K in computers 1000 everywhere else but please tell me what to use for pi.
It is that break in the first paragraph where the caption is for the photograph. I thought the few days later was referring to Sept 12, 2003. But it was refering to August 24th and August 27th, 1998.
Again I am sorry.
But I blame that caption and that is my story and I am sticking to it,,,,, for now,
If you add in the operating costs of the craft I do not say the tickets are expensive. But then right now in the United Kingdom there is a budget airline price war where before taxes you can get a 9 flight to Spain. When I lived in the states that would be the same as a $14 NYC flight to Miami. So it is all relative about it being expensive or not. And the taxes on top of that cost do not go to the aircraft operating costs.
I like the idea in general but "enbiggen", I enjoy new word created in English as it is a growing language but to broaden, enrich, enhance, enbolden, merged into a word like enbiggen. Sorry is just made me read everything you wrote with a healthy dose of scepticism. I can't spell my grammar is horrible and I don't really care but "enbiggen".
Or maybe there was some sarcasm in the whole thing I missed, was it the vague sci-fi references and world war II film plots mentioned as if they were indeed anthro-sociological fact that was meant to throw up the sarcasm alert.
So please restate what you meant to say with some meta emotive tags so I can figure out if I should be laughing, interested or just passing by this post.
Does anyone in the OSS community in CA want to give them a hand and some space on something non bill to do this?????? Maybe that department did not have the knowledge to use a different platform or the ability to get access to one. I think before slating them someone should offer them some help. I would but am 8k miles away right now.
Netcraft results of the same information:
The site www.microsoft-antitrust.gov is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000.
We have no uptime data for www.microsoft-antitrust.gov at present, and cannot plot a graph.
The host www.microsoft-antitrust.gov has been added to the list of sites that we may monitor. We will start monitoring www.microsoft-antitrust.gov in the next daily monitoring cycle.
We will continue to monitor this host for a few days, to get enough values to plot a graph. After this time the host will not be monitored again unless it's requested again, or it is one of the most frequently requested hosts.
OS, Web Server and Hosting History for www.microsoft-antitrust.gov OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 12-Sep-2003 167.10.5.164 California Department of Justice
Yes windows breaks easily. Or is windows less secure???? And with the current license scheme windows replacement is not cheap.
Sorry the joke was laying there and your metaphor is weak but I understand your point. I prefer I world where people can say to others hey you have a problem here fix it and be respected for their knowledge and skill not hunted down. Though by changing a web page on Yahoo he did cross the line. I would like to see the NY Time complaint to see what damage was done but if he did not expose data to anyone else or destroy, deface data I believe he did no wrong.
Ok take the other scenario they don't break in. No one tells you about the holes in your computer system. You machine sits there as it has always done. Are you secure???? Are those holes still there waiting for someone to exploit??? Or is it only this one person that can do it. Chances are they don't do it and tell you, when you do get hit you are going to be looking at data recovery not a security analysis of your system. And which costs a lot more than that. The thing is this person is doing you a favour take their word or not you have just found holes in your system and you still have your data. It is only a matter of time if you have a high profile site like NY Times before those holes are exploited at the cost of your data. And having SS numbers and employee records involved the risk is in more than money.
Anyway you look at it this guy isn't to blame for telling the people he hacked their security problems. Just look from the situations he told people about as if he didn't and think of those sites as targets as servers to launch attacks from, as political hits in other attacks or in the case of the NY Times case as a trolling place for ID theft. If I were an employee of NY Times I would be thanking this guy for making my bosses look into the integrity of how the stored my personal data.
And nothing to fix stuck valves The summary is broken system with incorrect water level gauages and operators assuming that warnings were normal. Human error and some key systems giving false readings combine. But the question was why did these systems give false readings, and why did the operators think this was normal operations. Reference 1
I grew up in Harrisburg PA so I have a bias here. I watched Three Mile Island be built and I watched them take away the damaged reactor. From my childhood into my young adulthood. I believe in the theory of nuclear power as a clean efficient fuel source, I fear the economics that lead to companies cutting corners to increase profits. Until the American system of capitalism can include social, environmental concerns in the structure of a company that works with material as this the risk is too high. It is the human nature not the science that lets us down with nuclear power.
There is not point in the universe where there is no gravity. There are points where the pull of gravity from all directions is equal or near enough to be equal not to be measured, so technically you always have weight even if it is zero or near to zero.
Well I think the problem was as seeing a cloud as an individual mass. Because it is the fact that each water droplet being the individual mass. The ability for these to float on the rising air mass creates clouds. So we are seeing a tracing of the air currents made by the moisture trapped in these air currents. The physics is not the same as a single physical body but more like turbulence.
The do have weight because the have a downward force from the relation of their mass within the gravity of earth. But because of their low density they float in the air. Just like a feather has weight but still floats in the air currents.
All objects that have a mass have weight. Weight is related to the gravitational conditions the object is in. You are confusing weight and density / buoyancy.
Ok I want to know when SCO added a journaling file system to Unix. I thought that was an IBM invention that SCO is claiming is covered with the AIX contract as Unix derivation. And now the code was not added by IBM which means their contract dispute with IBM is only part of the legal case. But has that code in System V and Linux been compared to the BSD's and the publically released Unix from Caldera?????
No I think by trying to get into the BIOS they hit any key and by that way "accepted the license".
I think though legally since it stated they had to agree to the licensing that came with the computer that with no license coming with the computer they get to use the software however they want.
I don't know, from where I have been working it helped force management to actually patch the RPCDCOM hole because the did not believe it was a security risk, until it was proven in the wild.
Though it caused a huge panic within our IT having the hole patched has stopped the single user stealing data through this exploit.
To me this is more important and if the pointy haired boss needs worms like this to understand the scope of a security hole it is better that a harmles (from data security view) worm proves it to them than a cracker stealing data does. The worm is more easily seen than the cracker when a hole like this exists.
There seems to be some issues with the character set and language differences and that any transfers of documents might be through filters to specific formats anyway. Though can't comment any deeper without seeing the product or its scope of use.
I never understood how counting is cheating though. That is an actual skill and the advantage does not require knowing more about the game currently being played i.e. seeing the deck. Maybe BlackJack payouts need to be adjusted to match the problem that can happen with counting. Now getting two players to cover a table and use counting to spill over cards is cheating. But alas this mindset that counting is cheating is already in the casinos what can you do.
True but I do it for all sites in case the article moves. And do it the same for big or little sites. Though the Guardian tends not to move articles that often and has a good archive, I am just trying to be consistent.
It looked seperate when I previewed the submission. I usually just enclose The Guardian in the href and leave the running an out of the href to space it out. I do not know if that was from the editor or a typo I had later. This is the first time I have seen an editor add or change parts of a submissin I have done when it came out so not sure where the bad is but will try not to have a mistake like that again in the futue.
Thank you too many years with spell checkers and my brains ability to do self correcting has been short circuited. Too bad the subject wasn't more topical or I could write it off as a bad pun.;)
You hit the nail on the head. People listen to him. Why is this? Because what he says and does has changed software development. Free is not free as in no cost free as in here is the code change it if you need to. I think of all the changes that his idealogy have brought about and what that has done to the computers. And you look at the job market in computers. He creates jobs not destroys them. This is the same reason I respect Bill Gates, though I don't agree with him. If it were not for Windows there would not be the market in these machines that there is now.
So yet again the cowards spew bile that means nothing to the argument.
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But where do you stop with pi how many extra decimal places are there to use.
I prefer 22/7 for pi but it still isn't really pi.
Can you give me something to really use or just another approximation.
So you have to go back to significant digits and in some cases 3 is an ok number for pi. Though not in much maths I do.
Though I don't use this for pi. As that degree of accuracy is not needed.
Oh it all to confusing I don't want to use 3 and and don't want to use 1000 so I will use 1024 for K in computers 1000 everywhere else but please tell me what to use for pi.
You are very right my apologies.
It is that break in the first paragraph where the caption is for the photograph. I thought the few days later was referring to Sept 12, 2003. But it was refering to August 24th and August 27th, 1998.
Again I am sorry.
But I blame that caption and that is my story and I am sticking to it,,,,, for now,
If you add in the operating costs of the craft I do not say the tickets are expensive. But then right now in the United Kingdom there is a budget airline price war where before taxes you can get a 9 flight to Spain. When I lived in the states that would be the same as a $14 NYC flight to Miami. So it is all relative about it being expensive or not. And the taxes on top of that cost do not go to the aircraft operating costs.
I like the idea in general but "enbiggen", I enjoy new word created in English as it is a growing language but to broaden, enrich, enhance, enbolden, merged into a word like enbiggen. Sorry is just made me read everything you wrote with a healthy dose of scepticism. I can't spell my grammar is horrible and I don't really care but "enbiggen".
Or maybe there was some sarcasm in the whole thing I missed, was it the vague sci-fi references and world war II film plots mentioned as if they were indeed anthro-sociological fact that was meant to throw up the sarcasm alert.
So please restate what you meant to say with some meta emotive tags so I can figure out if I should be laughing, interested or just passing by this post.
Read it again and more slowly, yes it happened in 1998 and there was a more powerful on in Sept 2003.
Does anyone in the OSS community in CA want to give them a hand and some space on something non bill to do this?????? Maybe that department did not have the knowledge to use a different platform or the ability to get access to one. I think before slating them someone should offer them some help. I would but am 8k miles away right now.
Netcraft results of the same information:
The site www.microsoft-antitrust.gov is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000.
We have no uptime data for www.microsoft-antitrust.gov at present, and cannot plot a graph.
The host www.microsoft-antitrust.gov has been added to the list of sites that we may monitor. We will start monitoring www.microsoft-antitrust.gov in the next daily monitoring cycle.
We will continue to monitor this host for a few days, to get enough values to plot a graph. After this time the host will not be monitored again unless it's requested again, or it is one of the most frequently requested hosts.
OS, Web Server and Hosting History for www.microsoft-antitrust.gov
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
Windows 2000 Microsoft-IIS/5.0 12-Sep-2003 167.10.5.164 California Department of Justice
Yes windows breaks easily.
Or is windows less secure????
And with the current license scheme windows replacement is not cheap.
Sorry the joke was laying there and your metaphor is weak but I understand your point. I prefer I world where people can say to others hey you have a problem here fix it and be respected for their knowledge and skill not hunted down. Though by changing a web page on Yahoo he did cross the line. I would like to see the NY Time complaint to see what damage was done but if he did not expose data to anyone else or destroy, deface data I believe he did no wrong.
Ok take the other scenario they don't break in.
No one tells you about the holes in your computer system. You machine sits there as it has always done. Are you secure???? Are those holes still there waiting for someone to exploit??? Or is it only this one person that can do it. Chances are they don't do it and tell you, when you do get hit you are going to be looking at data recovery not a security analysis of your system. And which costs a lot more than that. The thing is this person is doing you a favour take their word or not you have just found holes in your system and you still have your data. It is only a matter of time if you have a high profile site like NY Times before those holes are exploited at the cost of your data. And having SS numbers and employee records involved the risk is in more than money.
Anyway you look at it this guy isn't to blame for telling the people he hacked their security problems. Just look from the situations he told people about as if he didn't and think of those sites as targets as servers to launch attacks from, as political hits in other attacks or in the case of the NY Times case as a trolling place for ID theft. If I were an employee of NY Times I would be thanking this guy for making my bosses look into the integrity of how the stored my personal data.
But he didn't mess them up. He just looked.
Only on Yahoo has it been shown that he changed Data.
And nothing to fix stuck valves
The summary is broken system with incorrect water level gauages and operators assuming that warnings were normal. Human error and some key systems giving false readings combine. But the question was why did these systems give false readings, and why did the operators think this was normal operations. Reference 1
The real problem is best described:
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I just don't trust the builders and owners.
I do trust the science but not the product.
I grew up in Harrisburg PA so I have a bias here. I watched Three Mile Island be built and I watched them take away the damaged reactor. From my childhood into my young adulthood. I believe in the theory of nuclear power as a clean efficient fuel source, I fear the economics that lead to companies cutting corners to increase profits. Until the American system of capitalism can include social, environmental concerns in the structure of a company that works with material as this the risk is too high. It is the human nature not the science that lets us down with nuclear power.
And the waste solutions.
There is not point in the universe where there is no gravity. There are points where the pull of gravity from all directions is equal or near enough to be equal not to be measured, so technically you always have weight even if it is zero or near to zero.
The density of the cloud I was referring too or the water being spread thin, but you definitely state it more clearly.
Well I think the problem was as seeing a cloud as an individual mass. Because it is the fact that each water droplet being the individual mass. The ability for these to float on the rising air mass creates clouds. So we are seeing a tracing of the air currents made by the moisture trapped in these air currents. The physics is not the same as a single physical body but more like turbulence.
The do have weight because the have a downward force from the relation of their mass within the gravity of earth. But because of their low density they float in the air. Just like a feather has weight but still floats in the air currents.
All objects that have a mass have weight. Weight is related to the gravitational conditions the object is in. You are confusing weight and density / buoyancy.
Physics 101 please try this class again.
Ok I want to know when SCO added a journaling file system to Unix. I thought that was an IBM invention that SCO is claiming is covered with the AIX contract as Unix derivation. And now the code was not added by IBM which means their contract dispute with IBM is only part of the legal case. But has that code in System V and Linux been compared to the BSD's and the publically released Unix from Caldera?????
No I think by trying to get into the BIOS they hit any key and by that way "accepted the license".
I think though legally since it stated they had to agree to the licensing that came with the computer that with no license coming with the computer they get to use the software however they want.
I don't know, from where I have been working it helped force management to actually patch the RPCDCOM hole because the did not believe it was a security risk, until it was proven in the wild.
Though it caused a huge panic within our IT having the hole patched has stopped the single user stealing data through this exploit.
To me this is more important and if the pointy haired boss needs worms like this to understand the scope of a security hole it is better that a harmles (from data security view) worm proves it to them than a cracker stealing data does. The worm is more easily seen than the cracker when a hole like this exists.
There seems to be some issues with the character set and language differences and that any transfers of documents might be through filters to specific formats anyway. Though can't comment any deeper without seeing the product or its scope of use.
I never understood how counting is cheating though. That is an actual skill and the advantage does not require knowing more about the game currently being played i.e. seeing the deck. Maybe BlackJack payouts need to be adjusted to match the problem that can happen with counting. Now getting two players to cover a table and use counting to spill over cards is cheating. But alas this mindset that counting is cheating is already in the casinos what can you do.
True but I do it for all sites in case the article moves. And do it the same for big or little sites. Though the Guardian tends not to move articles that often and has a good archive, I am just trying to be consistent.
I think that is the point. There now exists observational data to support the theory.
It looked seperate when I previewed the submission. I usually just enclose The Guardian in the href and leave the running an out of the href to space it out. I do not know if that was from the editor or a typo I had later. This is the first time I have seen an editor add or change parts of a submissin I have done when it came out so not sure where the bad is but will try not to have a mistake like that again in the futue.
Thank you too many years with spell checkers and my brains ability to do self correcting has been short circuited. Too bad the subject wasn't more topical or I could write it off as a bad pun. ;)
You hit the nail on the head. People listen to him. Why is this?
Because what he says and does has changed software development. Free is not free as in no cost free as in here is the code change it if you need to.
I think of all the changes that his idealogy have brought about and what that has done to the computers. And you look at the job market in computers. He creates jobs not destroys them.
This is the same reason I respect Bill Gates, though I don't agree with him. If it were not for Windows there would not be the market in these machines that there is now.
So yet again the cowards spew bile that means nothing to the argument.