GTK+ apparently reverses X's previously-reversed notion of "client" and "server".
This is not true. A remote app is running on the remote computer. It has no access to your system for security reasons. Instead of being a client to the LOCAL X server, it is a client of the REMOTE X server. It does not have any access to your filesystem, and doesn't even know what your username is on your local box. It certainly would look nice, but its just not possible.
At my work, we use NFS-shared home directories, so when I run apps on other boxen, they do show up with my theme. Obviously, this is not the case with root, which is local to each machine. ---
I've helped lots of people get to Linux actually. They do need their hands held until they can get the hang of things. It's not intuitive for most people to immediately install an operating system and come to the realization that the first thing they must do is secure it. This is a problem that seriously annoys me about Red Hat and some other Linux distros, as people should only need to learn about securing services if they want to run them. When I first learned Linux back in 96, I was running a horribly insecure system with every service running. I didn't even know how to update it. It pisses me off that Linux vendors don't accomadate new users who don't know better yet.
But what I really don't understand is why you're upset. ---
I still don't understand why every network service isn't turned off by default. If you need it, you better know how to keep it secure. If you know how to keep it secure, chances are you know how to turn it on.
AFAIK, any normal RH Linux box needs these system services:
crond
keytable
random
syslogd
xfs (if running X)
A box with this config will produce the following "netstat -l" has no externally open ports except echo. The only exception to this is when running X, port 6000 will be opened (personally I firewall this).
The only thing that MIGHT want to be turned on by default is SSH. But there's really no reason that the user shouldn't have to do event this themselves.
The problem is obviously the entry-level Unix/mid-level MS users who are starting to use Linux. They need their hands held. So put a $!@#$ memo in the installer that says to read "services.txt" or something to get your system services going. Or, perhaps RH should open a web browser with a "Configuring Services" FAQ when you login to X as root (most people do this, annoying enough). ---
Note... this is not the original poster you're replying to, but I had to say this. And yes, it's offtopic, but you'll have to use a few points to get it down there.
--anyway--
Actually, this is what makes it most amusing... nothing is funnier than when these things try to race me. Nothing sucks worse for these folks than being beaten by a 5000 lb. full-size 4x4 pickup:)
The amusing point about the "rice boy" phenomenon is that they spend $20,000 in mods on a $20,000 car and it doesn't do anything, because they chose the wrong car to modify and poorly invested their money. Any $40,000 sports car or $25-30k sports car with $10-15k in mods done by anyone with an IQ above 100 will put their car to shame.
By the way, just so everyone knows, the term "rice boy" isn't intended to be racist. There's plenty of white guys with V6 Camaros with Z28 emblems and gold spoked 13" wheels that are rice-boy cars. ---
The SuperMicro SC-760A is the best case I've seen yet. It has a redundant cooling 300w (or 400w) power supply (2 fans), 6 exposed full height bays 1 hidden full height 1 exposed half height and 2 hidden half height. There are mounts for four regular fans alongside the full size drive bays, and there are external vents next to these fans. There are 3 intake fan mounts up front. There is a large fan that gets mounted directly over the processor and a large exhaust fan above the power supply in the upper-back corner of the case. I had a few problems with vibration but they were easily cured by taping some of the "no-slip" material at a few metal-to-metal contact points... the tape is not visible. The case now has no vibration and has EIGHT FANS.
http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/Chassis/sc750. ht m
Best Buy sells a 200-disc Sony DVD/CD changer and I'm listening to a burned CD copy right now. This player costs $299, and having had it for two months now I'm quite impressed with it.
By the way, this story scared the living bejesus out of me as I hadn't tried CD-R's in the player until just now. Kinda would have interfered with plan to be a truly evil person by taking all the CD's I bought and copying them so I can listen to them in the car and at home.
I bought one of these on 12/30/0. It broke on 1/1/1. No picture... power light just blinks on and off. Circuit City was kind enough to charge me $40 to come and replace it, as they said that since I didn't order delivery the first time, I couldn't have it swapped out for free. While I was willing to recruit two friends to move the 282-pound TV ONCE, three times seemed a little much.
Aside from the failure (which is hopefully an unusual incident), I absolutely love this TV set. Although it's a bit much for TiVo to handle, as you can clearly see the pixels and MPEG encoding, especially on the Simpsons. Of course, I've got an ancient 14-hour TiVo that I have to record everything on Medium quality. (Time to add a 90-gig drive to it).
As far as the Audio system goes, I went pretty much all Sony. I've got the new (and very cheap ($300)) 200-disc DVD/CD changer and Sony's second from top-of the line (consumer grade) receiver/amp ($400). Speakers are hand-me-down JBLs, don't know the exact model or specs, but they cost about $800 for the two large mains, two small satellite rears, and a decent center channel. I'm no audiophile, but they sound very good to me. Although the people who used to live two floors up from me weren't nearly as impressed:)
I'd love to hear about any problems anyone has had with these TV's though... I'm hoping I just had an isolated incident with it breaking but don't want to get stuck with a bad model if they all have problems. ---
The Pentium 4, is faster, and "better" than the Pentium III, but only when software is compiled for it. Go read http://www.tomshardware.com for more info. Tom had a real hard time understanding this at first too, but in the end, he was able to show some more impressive results for the P4 with benchmarks running code compiled for the Pentium 4.
Another advantage of the P4 is that it will scale more easily to higher clocks.
Of course, in the real world, it will be a while before MS can take advantage of this. (Anyone know if gcc can optimize for P4 yet?) ---
I just bought a new K7/1100, Asus nVidia GeForce2 GTS, and Asus A7V mainboard. I installed RedHat *cringe* 7. It found everything in the box right away, and once I got all the updates applied and Helix setup, I went over to nVidia.com and grabbed their 0.9-5 Linux drivers, read the directions and attempted to install them. The nVidia RPMs for RedHat 7 were built for a different kernel (RH 2.2.16-21) instead of RH 2.2.16-22 (which is stock with RedHat7). I tried their trick of "insmod agpgart --agp-use-unsupported=1" (or something like that) and forced their kernel module to be loaded instead of whining about -21 vs. -22 (while praying that doesn't hurt anything). Also I tried compiling the driver myself but I think RH7's beta gcc is what's preventing that from working. Then I forced RPM uninstalls of all the Mesa stuff which causes problems.
With all that stuff installed, X dies when its launched. I've still got a few more ideas to try, and still a couple more resources to tap (friends, newsgroups, some anandtech articles, etc), but I'm about ready to head back to my former Linux now Win2k box (P2/333 + Voodoo3) to play Q3F until some decent information comes out or nVidia makes an easier install for my machine.) ---
Just set up a filter to move email where to "To:" or "CC:" fields aren't to you or none of sender/recipients are in your address book. Manually add any mailing lists you subscribe to. Have it put it in a "filtered" folder.
I find this takes care of 75% of the spam get... Is sure is nice to again get more legit email then spam. I occasionally check the "filtered" folder for important messages, but rarely do I find anything of value in it. ---
Why does Nautilus take so long to open new windows? I've been trying nightlies and now PR2 and it takes quite a few seconds to open new windows. I'm on a P2/333 384M RAM, w/SCSI. Everything else is fairly quick.
Don't take this comment the wrong way, Nautilus is awesome, and the latest preview release looks great. Keep up the great work guys!
My computer runs a somewhat non-standard operating system called "Linux." This "Linux" operating system does not come with Microsoft Windows fonts. Hence, I cannot see the Microsoft "smart quotes" that appear in the "MS 'Whistler' Looks Solid To ZDNET" story. If you could be so kind as to fix the headline, me and my fellow "Linux" users would appreciate it.
I tried this exploit against one of MY OWN MACHINES. As in, a machine that is owned by me, on which I already know the Admin password etc.
The first thing I tried was the cmd.exe/c dir command like x-empt suggested and the result was the expected.
Then I pcanywhered in and decided to see if I remote launched notepad if it would appear on the display. When notepad.exe was launched, the whole system crumbled. I tried to kill it, but it won't die. Task Manager just says "Access Denied". Geez, where's kill -9 when you need it. I'm even logged in as admin. I can't kill the process, and I can't start anything except task manager. Can't even launch the services panel to kill IIS.
So now I'm attempting the tried and true method of fixing a win box.
We tried having the NT-SysAdmins enter that somehow valid license key "010-0123456", but they just got confused and frustrated and wound up running away from the servers at this step into a dark corner where they'd typically be found scarfing down bananas at an unbelievable rate.
Since we switched to using 111-1111111 (which also works just as well), the NT admins have been much happier, need less counseling, and the cages need to be cleaned less often.
I won't make any comparisons to PHP or ColdFusion, I haven't used them.
But in terms of performance, my company moved from ASP to JSP for performance among other reasons. My company creates Intranet solutions, Web-based training, dynamic-content Web sites, etc.
ASP has a few major glaring issues.
1. Performance: When scripts are asked to perform complex operations, such as dynamically creating one of our site administration screens that have more tables, frames, than a big horse can ----, ASP crawls. As our systems got more complex, we moved them to VB COM components, and later to VJ++ COM components for speed. When we started switching to the full Java technologies, the testers reported a big increase in speed and usability, even though the applications were getting more complex. Before we "officially" switched from ASP to JSP, I ran a few very practical tests on both, to see how fast they might run in our applications. JSP flattened ASP, normally by a factor of 10, sometimes by 100. (I did this test 18 months ago, with Apache JServ)
2. Less bugs in my code. ASP is a breeding ground for bugs. Because its interpreted, SYNTAX ERRORS can exist in your code and you won't know about them til some client calls up having used some obscure branch of an If statement that missed testing.
3. Less bugs in their code. Ever heard of a "Catastrophic Error?" If you haven't you haven't used ASP for long enough. If you use this technology for a long time AND REALLY PUSH IT HARD, it will snap on its own. This is my biggest problem with ASP. I've had cases where my code was correct and when executed would nearly bring down the server. The solution was sometimes as simple as switching the order of two non-initialized variable declarations.... this leads me to believe there are great flaws within the ASP engine. Because no one can probably believe this point, let me just give you an example....the following program might work:
Dim A = 5
Dim B = 6
Foo A, B
While this one might bring the server down:
Dim B = 6
Dim A = 5
Foo A, B
I've seen this happen! I haven't the slightest clue as to what caused it, but it often happens on very large scripts (running the above code isn't going to demonstrate the problem).
It all depends on the quality of the driver. If you have 100 engineers optimizing the hell out of a driver for Win98, and have 3 who port that work to Linux, what do you expect?
But hey check out this link http://www.to mshardware.com/graphic/00q3/000811/linux_geforce-1 8.html... here we have Linux beating Windows on a few tests. It's true that in most of the tests tomshardware.com did, Linux lost. But its not because Linux sucks. It's because the drivers aren't as good.
My home workstation goes down for hardware upgrades, kernel upgrades, and power outages longer than twenty minutes... thats it. In other news, our well-maintained very-lightly-loaded w2k workgroup server ate shit this afternoon, requiring a hard boot. Sure this is anecdotal evidence, but reliability is something that can only be tested in practice.
Will WINE run Counterstirke (Half life plus the mod)? Just curious to know if anyone here has it going reliably and quickly. I refuse to dual boot, but I'm thinking of buying another machine pretty much just to play that dumb game:-)
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This is not true. A remote app is running on the remote computer. It has no access to your system for security reasons. Instead of being a client to the LOCAL X server, it is a client of the REMOTE X server. It does not have any access to your filesystem, and doesn't even know what your username is on your local box. It certainly would look nice, but its just not possible.
At my work, we use NFS-shared home directories, so when I run apps on other boxen, they do show up with my theme. Obviously, this is not the case with root, which is local to each machine.
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I've helped lots of people get to Linux actually. They do need their hands held until they can get the hang of things. It's not intuitive for most people to immediately install an operating system and come to the realization that the first thing they must do is secure it. This is a problem that seriously annoys me about Red Hat and some other Linux distros, as people should only need to learn about securing services if they want to run them. When I first learned Linux back in 96, I was running a horribly insecure system with every service running. I didn't even know how to update it. It pisses me off that Linux vendors don't accomadate new users who don't know better yet.
But what I really don't understand is why you're upset.
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I still don't understand why every network service isn't turned off by default. If you need it, you better know how to keep it secure. If you know how to keep it secure, chances are you know how to turn it on.
AFAIK, any normal RH Linux box needs these system services:
crond
keytable
random
syslogd
xfs (if running X)
A box with this config will produce the following "netstat -l" has no externally open ports except echo. The only exception to this is when running X, port 6000 will be opened (personally I firewall this).
The only thing that MIGHT want to be turned on by default is SSH. But there's really no reason that the user shouldn't have to do event this themselves.
The problem is obviously the entry-level Unix/mid-level MS users who are starting to use Linux. They need their hands held. So put a $!@#$ memo in the installer that says to read "services.txt" or something to get your system services going. Or, perhaps RH should open a web browser with a "Configuring Services" FAQ when you login to X as root (most people do this, annoying enough).
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Note... this is not the original poster you're replying to, but I had to say this. And yes, it's offtopic, but you'll have to use a few points to get it down there.
:)
--anyway--
Actually, this is what makes it most amusing... nothing is funnier than when these things try to race me. Nothing sucks worse for these folks than being beaten by a 5000 lb. full-size 4x4 pickup
The amusing point about the "rice boy" phenomenon is that they spend $20,000 in mods on a $20,000 car and it doesn't do anything, because they chose the wrong car to modify and poorly invested their money. Any $40,000 sports car or $25-30k sports car with $10-15k in mods done by anyone with an IQ above 100 will put their car to shame.
By the way, just so everyone knows, the term "rice boy" isn't intended to be racist. There's plenty of white guys with V6 Camaros with Z28 emblems and gold spoked 13" wheels that are rice-boy cars.
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The SuperMicro SC-760A is the best case I've seen yet. It has a redundant cooling 300w (or 400w) power supply (2 fans), 6 exposed full height bays 1 hidden full height 1 exposed half height and 2 hidden half height. There are mounts for four regular fans alongside the full size drive bays, and there are external vents next to these fans. There are 3 intake fan mounts up front. There is a large fan that gets mounted directly over the processor and a large exhaust fan above the power supply in the upper-back corner of the case. I had a few problems with vibration but they were easily cured by taping some of the "no-slip" material at a few metal-to-metal contact points... the tape is not visible. The case now has no vibration and has EIGHT FANS.
. ht m
http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/Chassis/sc750
They cost about 150 off pricewatch.
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Best Buy sells a 200-disc Sony DVD/CD changer and I'm listening to a burned CD copy right now. This player costs $299, and having had it for two months now I'm quite impressed with it.
By the way, this story scared the living bejesus out of me as I hadn't tried CD-R's in the player until just now. Kinda would have interfered with plan to be a truly evil person by taking all the CD's I bought and copying them so I can listen to them in the car and at home.
---
I bought one of these on 12/30/0. It broke on 1/1/1. No picture... power light just blinks on and off. Circuit City was kind enough to charge me $40 to come and replace it, as they said that since I didn't order delivery the first time, I couldn't have it swapped out for free. While I was willing to recruit two friends to move the 282-pound TV ONCE, three times seemed a little much.
:)
Aside from the failure (which is hopefully an unusual incident), I absolutely love this TV set. Although it's a bit much for TiVo to handle, as you can clearly see the pixels and MPEG encoding, especially on the Simpsons. Of course, I've got an ancient 14-hour TiVo that I have to record everything on Medium quality. (Time to add a 90-gig drive to it).
As far as the Audio system goes, I went pretty much all Sony. I've got the new (and very cheap ($300)) 200-disc DVD/CD changer and Sony's second from top-of the line (consumer grade) receiver/amp ($400). Speakers are hand-me-down JBLs, don't know the exact model or specs, but they cost about $800 for the two large mains, two small satellite rears, and a decent center channel. I'm no audiophile, but they sound very good to me. Although the people who used to live two floors up from me weren't nearly as impressed
I'd love to hear about any problems anyone has had with these TV's though... I'm hoping I just had an isolated incident with it breaking but don't want to get stuck with a bad model if they all have problems.
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Another advantage of the P4 is that it will scale more easily to higher clocks.
Of course, in the real world, it will be a while before MS can take advantage of this. (Anyone know if gcc can optimize for P4 yet?)
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I just bought a new K7/1100, Asus nVidia GeForce2 GTS, and Asus A7V mainboard. I installed RedHat *cringe* 7. It found everything in the box right away, and once I got all the updates applied and Helix setup, I went over to nVidia.com and grabbed their 0.9-5 Linux drivers, read the directions and attempted to install them. The nVidia RPMs for RedHat 7 were built for a different kernel (RH 2.2.16-21) instead of RH 2.2.16-22 (which is stock with RedHat7). I tried their trick of "insmod agpgart --agp-use-unsupported=1" (or something like that) and forced their kernel module to be loaded instead of whining about -21 vs. -22 (while praying that doesn't hurt anything). Also I tried compiling the driver myself but I think RH7's beta gcc is what's preventing that from working. Then I forced RPM uninstalls of all the Mesa stuff which causes problems.
With all that stuff installed, X dies when its launched. I've still got a few more ideas to try, and still a couple more resources to tap (friends, newsgroups, some anandtech articles, etc), but I'm about ready to head back to my former Linux now Win2k box (P2/333 + Voodoo3) to play Q3F until some decent information comes out or nVidia makes an easier install for my machine.)
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Just set up a filter to move email where to "To:" or "CC:" fields aren't to you or none of sender/recipients are in your address book. Manually add any mailing lists you subscribe to. Have it put it in a "filtered" folder.
I find this takes care of 75% of the spam get... Is sure is nice to again get more legit email then spam. I occasionally check the "filtered" folder for important messages, but rarely do I find anything of value in it.
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Why don't we just use this measurement on /. from now on?
So you could pretty much transfer everything on Napster over there in about 43 seconds.
1 128Kbps MP3 ~= 5MB
Congrats Bush!
Go ahead and waste three democratic moderator points getting this down to -1, troll!!!!
Sorry, forgot to mention that.
Florida vote status 12:15am CST:
Bush 2,598,890 49.539% (They say 49%)
Gore 2,546,906 48.548% (They say 49%)
Nader 85,281 1.626% (They say 2%)
Buchanan 15,043 0.287% (They say 0%)
Total 5,246,120
They round down for Bush and up for Gore. Must be the new math.
Why does Nautilus take so long to open new windows? I've been trying nightlies and now PR2 and it takes quite a few seconds to open new windows. I'm on a P2/333 384M RAM, w/SCSI. Everything else is fairly quick.
Don't take this comment the wrong way, Nautilus is awesome, and the latest preview release looks great. Keep up the great work guys!
I'm using cruddy old Netscape 4.75, and they seem to have fixed it within the past hour. They showed up as question marks.
Dear Slashdot:
My computer runs a somewhat non-standard operating system called "Linux." This "Linux" operating system does not come with Microsoft Windows fonts. Hence, I cannot see the Microsoft "smart quotes" that appear in the "MS 'Whistler' Looks Solid To ZDNET" story. If you could be so kind as to fix the headline, me and my fellow "Linux" users would appreciate it.
Thanks.
I tried this exploit against one of MY OWN MACHINES. As in, a machine that is owned by me, on which I already know the Admin password etc.
/c dir command like x-empt suggested and the result was the expected.
The first thing I tried was the cmd.exe
Then I pcanywhered in and decided to see if I remote launched notepad if it would appear on the display. When notepad.exe was launched, the whole system crumbled. I tried to kill it, but it won't die. Task Manager just says "Access Denied". Geez, where's kill -9 when you need it. I'm even logged in as admin. I can't kill the process, and I can't start anything except task manager. Can't even launch the services panel to kill IIS.
So now I'm attempting the tried and true method of fixing a win box.
We tried having the NT-SysAdmins enter that somehow valid license key "010-0123456", but they just got confused and frustrated and wound up running away from the servers at this step into a dark corner where they'd typically be found scarfing down bananas at an unbelievable rate.
Since we switched to using 111-1111111 (which also works just as well), the NT admins have been much happier, need less counseling, and the cages need to be cleaned less often.
I won't make any comparisons to PHP or ColdFusion, I haven't used them.
But in terms of performance, my company moved from ASP to JSP for performance among other reasons. My company creates Intranet solutions, Web-based training, dynamic-content Web sites, etc.
ASP has a few major glaring issues.
1. Performance: When scripts are asked to perform complex operations, such as dynamically creating one of our site administration screens that have more tables, frames, than a big horse can ----, ASP crawls. As our systems got more complex, we moved them to VB COM components, and later to VJ++ COM components for speed. When we started switching to the full Java technologies, the testers reported a big increase in speed and usability, even though the applications were getting more complex. Before we "officially" switched from ASP to JSP, I ran a few very practical tests on both, to see how fast they might run in our applications. JSP flattened ASP, normally by a factor of 10, sometimes by 100. (I did this test 18 months ago, with Apache JServ)
2. Less bugs in my code. ASP is a breeding ground for bugs. Because its interpreted, SYNTAX ERRORS can exist in your code and you won't know about them til some client calls up having used some obscure branch of an If statement that missed testing.
3. Less bugs in their code. Ever heard of a "Catastrophic Error?" If you haven't you haven't used ASP for long enough. If you use this technology for a long time AND REALLY PUSH IT HARD, it will snap on its own. This is my biggest problem with ASP. I've had cases where my code was correct and when executed would nearly bring down the server. The solution was sometimes as simple as switching the order of two non-initialized variable declarations.... this leads me to believe there are great flaws within the ASP engine. Because no one can probably believe this point, let me just give you an example....the following program might work:
Dim A = 5
Dim B = 6
Foo A, B
While this one might bring the server down:
Dim B = 6
Dim A = 5
Foo A, B
I've seen this happen! I haven't the slightest clue as to what caused it, but it often happens on very large scripts (running the above code isn't going to demonstrate the problem).
And you STILL posted the article?
A current problem I'm having with SQL 7 is that it pretty much dies when pulling ~1-10MB BLOBs (in SQL server)
No user can do anything when another is querying a BLOB.
You'd think for a few hundred million dollars they'd find something better than an AOL account?
It all depends on the quality of the driver. If you have 100 engineers optimizing the hell out of a driver for Win98, and have 3 who port that work to Linux, what do you expect?
.to mshardware.com/graphic/00q3/000811/linux_geforce-1 8.html... here we have Linux beating Windows on a few tests. It's true that in most of the tests tomshardware.com did, Linux lost. But its not because Linux sucks. It's because the drivers aren't as good.
But hey check out this link http://www
My home workstation goes down for hardware upgrades, kernel upgrades, and power outages longer than twenty minutes... thats it. In other news, our well-maintained very-lightly-loaded w2k workgroup server ate shit this afternoon, requiring a hard boot. Sure this is anecdotal evidence, but reliability is something that can only be tested in practice.
Will WINE run Counterstirke (Half life plus the mod)? Just curious to know if anyone here has it going reliably and quickly. I refuse to dual boot, but I'm thinking of buying another machine pretty much just to play that dumb game :-)