Anyone that says there is no legitimate use for P2p in business is simply very very uneducated.
TCP/IP is a peer-to-peer communication protocol. There's nothing in the TCP/IP suite of protocols that makes certain IP addresses more worthy, capable, or desirable than any other, and anybody can be a server or client.
So, if your business uses TCP/IP in some way, that's a great counterexample of a legitimate and often necessary use of P2P in business.
You can not do this with TCP/IP. The destination of where your packet is going has to be visible, whether this is the address of a proxy that will later forward your packet or the address of a IPSec gateway that will forward your packet or of the ultimate destination for your packet. Otherwise it will never get there. Now, you can encrypt the payloads (see IPSec), but you can't encrypt the destination address.
It doesn't make those attacks futile. You can detect them, sure, but if you're getting bogus information from your DNS server, that's still a denial of service (because you can't get the real address of the site).
Plus all that an adversary would need to do is watch the DNS requests as they come in to find out where people are going.
Indeed I have. Due to my extensive viewing of pictures manipulated by Adobe Photoshop, it is my assertion that the picture on the right has been so manipulated, independent of the admission that it has been, chiefly for three reasons:
Heard of that time when Microsoft locked down everything it had, fucked and censored its own fans and customers and had the most obnoxious followers on the planet?
Sounds like the Windows Vista launch to me and the whole scuttlebutt going on with the Vista Capable Program, and yes, I've heard plenty about it.
I have an Archos Jukebox Recorder 15 that I'm looking to get rid of. Notable features include:
Standard NiMH AA batteries with a charger built into the player
Standard USB port
Player appears as a USB Mass Storage Device (even though it is only USB 1.1)
Plays and records MP3 and has a microphone jack
15 GB capacity
Has a line out and a headphone jack
It's not the most glamorous piece of tech in the word, but it gets the job done and quite effectively and avoids the problem of the iPod dock connector.
Apple's products are vastly superior to Microsoft's.
Value judgment. I think that the Mac OS is much more secure and stable than Windows, but how do you judge the Zune against the iPod? There's no objective criterion there.
Microsoft has been convicted of anti-trust violations in federal court. Apple has not.
True, but irrelevant. They both engage in business tactics that screw their customers. If Apple were bigger, they'd probably get slapped around the same way Microsoft did.
Apple's monopoly power is in the portable music market. Microsoft's is in the desktop operating system market.
Again, true but irrelevant. They both engage in business tactics that screw their customers.
My argument is that they both smack around their customers. I'm wondering why geeks give one a pass while they rabidly fight the other.
I don't mind them doing what they like with their game network. What they expect of me is spelled out in a contract that I can read before I purchase the item, not inside the box the item comes in under shrinkwrap that, once the shrinkwrap is broken, is nonreturnable.
My problem is that the terms for the Xbox 360 console itself are not known until after you can't return the console. Regardless of if you subscribe to LIVE or not, you cannot play legitimate backups and you cannot develop your own games without Microsoft's proprietary tools.
Buy a used iPod (not refurbished and not from Apple), run Rockbox on it, and don't purchase anything else from the iTunes Music Store. Apple doesn't make any money from you on that. That's how I've acquired 3 out of my 4 Apple products (the other was a gift).
If you want to avoid it on principle, I don't know of any competing player that uses the same dock standard, but even so, if you are rejecting on principle, do you want to encourage others to accept Apple's dock connector? As I recall, it is patented and has to be licensed from Apple - you don't want to encourage more people to pay licensing fees to Apple, do you?
3.5mm stereo minijack or stereo RCA all the way. No encryption, no DRM, just analog goodness. Sure you need an additional wire for power, but that's rarely a problem.
You agreed to the terms and conditions, if you dont, you should have returned the xbox (or any other console for that matter).
The terms and conditions weren't on the outside of the box and I couldn't review them before I opened the box. Once the box was open, the retailer and Microsoft wouldn't take the console back. Sounds like the textbook case of an unenforceable contract to me.
And you dont own the game, you own rights to play that particular game using particular technologies.
So if I don't own the media, if the media gets scratched and I own the rights to play the game on the technology, does that mean that Microsoft has to send me a replacement disc? If not, then I didn't buy the rights to play that particular game using that particular technology, did I?
Yes. In the United States, they were granted a monopoly over the telephone industry by the government because telephone was considered an essential part of the infrastructure, but as part of that deal, they had to let competitors use their copper (which was laid with some public funding and the legal monopoly status and thus had already paid for itself many times over). That's part of what the Bell System Divestiture was all about.
Bad analogy. First, I own the Xbox 360, so I should be able to hack it any way that I choose. I purchased it, it is my property. If Microsoft wanted to retain control over the machine they sold me, they should call it a lease, not a sale.
Second, who said anything about not paying for games games? Certainly not me. As much as I dislike the current IP laws, I obey them. My beef is that I cannot make my own games for the system without using Microsoft's proprietary tools and play backups of the games that I have purchased to avoid damaging the original discs.
I do not own the ATM or the bank. The property in the store is not mine. I have no right to do whatever I please with it. I purchased the Xbox 360, so I should be able to do whatever I please with it.
No, it's recognized that they need to break up monopolies abusing their powers to prevent competition from being established or surviving. Monopolies that exist because no other competitors are willing or able, absent market manipulation by the company with the monopoly, to enter the market are okay.
"Defective by design" is one of the phrases the FSF uses to describe DRM. The Xbox 360 has DRM, there's no question about that. You can't just copy a game using a DVD burner and play it even if you own a copy of the game. It makes backing up your games (and yes with a bunch of drunk frat boys, it makes sense to not have to sink $60 into another copy of the game because someone got drunk and played Frisbee with it) impossible without modifying your console. If you modify your console, however, Microsoft has said that they will ban you because they assume that you will be playing "pirated" games or are cheating on Xbox Live.
While the NXE helps a little in this regard (you can copy games to the hard drive), it also doesn't completely solve the problem (you need to have the original game in the drive to start the game).
Don't even get me started on the Xbox Live Marketplace.
Or you could just take a screengrab of a single window. There are only two windows usually on my desktop larger than 800x600: my browser and a text editor.
Easy idea - pull a Saturn. Set up a company whose only job is to sell Linux laptops, and make sure that HP has a large ownership interest in them. Then the only risk is making sure that those laptops sell without worrying about Microsoft shafting you on Windows licensing prices. If they sell well, then re-absorb the company and tell Microsoft to pound sand.
I nominate this post for the "Most Insightful Post Ever Made in an 'Is Linux Ready For the Desktop?' Topic" award.
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you can enjoy someone's work without condoning their lifestyle
Ironic given that Orson Scott Card has advocated the violent overthrow of the government due to his bigotry and hatred of gays (outright disapproval of their lifestyle). What makes you think that he deserves anything better from us?
Besides, he's written many best selling books. He's filthy stinkin' rich because of his opinion and his writings.
A popular opinion is not an opinion based on the truth. There was a time when the general sentiment of the country was for slavery and after that segregation. We see those times as backward and shameful.
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Anyone that says there is no legitimate use for P2p in business is simply very very uneducated.
TCP/IP is a peer-to-peer communication protocol. There's nothing in the TCP/IP suite of protocols that makes certain IP addresses more worthy, capable, or desirable than any other, and anybody can be a server or client.
So, if your business uses TCP/IP in some way, that's a great counterexample of a legitimate and often necessary use of P2P in business.
Because SSL and DNSSEC solve two different problems. Unless you're doing DNS-over-SSL, which means running DNS in TCP mode.
You can not do this with TCP/IP. The destination of where your packet is going has to be visible, whether this is the address of a proxy that will later forward your packet or the address of a IPSec gateway that will forward your packet or of the ultimate destination for your packet. Otherwise it will never get there. Now, you can encrypt the payloads (see IPSec), but you can't encrypt the destination address.
It doesn't make those attacks futile. You can detect them, sure, but if you're getting bogus information from your DNS server, that's still a denial of service (because you can't get the real address of the site).
Plus all that an adversary would need to do is watch the DNS requests as they come in to find out where people are going.
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Indeed I have. Due to my extensive viewing of pictures manipulated by Adobe Photoshop, it is my assertion that the picture on the right has been so manipulated, independent of the admission that it has been, chiefly for three reasons:
Thus, given these three observations, I proffer my determination that this picture is indeed shopped.
Heard of that time when Microsoft locked down everything it had, fucked and censored its own fans and customers and had the most obnoxious followers on the planet?
Sounds like the Windows Vista launch to me and the whole scuttlebutt going on with the Vista Capable Program, and yes, I've heard plenty about it.
I have an Archos Jukebox Recorder 15 that I'm looking to get rid of. Notable features include:
It's not the most glamorous piece of tech in the word, but it gets the job done and quite effectively and avoids the problem of the iPod dock connector.
I can tell by the pixels.
Also, the flag in the background looks like it came from a collection of late-90s clip art.
Apple's products are vastly superior to Microsoft's.
Value judgment. I think that the Mac OS is much more secure and stable than Windows, but how do you judge the Zune against the iPod? There's no objective criterion there.
Microsoft has been convicted of anti-trust violations in federal court. Apple has not.
True, but irrelevant. They both engage in business tactics that screw their customers. If Apple were bigger, they'd probably get slapped around the same way Microsoft did.
Apple's monopoly power is in the portable music market. Microsoft's is in the desktop operating system market.
Again, true but irrelevant. They both engage in business tactics that screw their customers.
My argument is that they both smack around their customers. I'm wondering why geeks give one a pass while they rabidly fight the other.
I don't mind them doing what they like with their game network. What they expect of me is spelled out in a contract that I can read before I purchase the item, not inside the box the item comes in under shrinkwrap that, once the shrinkwrap is broken, is nonreturnable.
My problem is that the terms for the Xbox 360 console itself are not known until after you can't return the console. Regardless of if you subscribe to LIVE or not, you cannot play legitimate backups and you cannot develop your own games without Microsoft's proprietary tools.
Buy a used iPod (not refurbished and not from Apple), run Rockbox on it, and don't purchase anything else from the iTunes Music Store. Apple doesn't make any money from you on that. That's how I've acquired 3 out of my 4 Apple products (the other was a gift).
If you want to avoid it on principle, I don't know of any competing player that uses the same dock standard, but even so, if you are rejecting on principle, do you want to encourage others to accept Apple's dock connector? As I recall, it is patented and has to be licensed from Apple - you don't want to encourage more people to pay licensing fees to Apple, do you?
3.5mm stereo minijack or stereo RCA all the way. No encryption, no DRM, just analog goodness. Sure you need an additional wire for power, but that's rarely a problem.
You agreed to the terms and conditions, if you dont, you should have returned the xbox (or any other console for that matter).
The terms and conditions weren't on the outside of the box and I couldn't review them before I opened the box. Once the box was open, the retailer and Microsoft wouldn't take the console back. Sounds like the textbook case of an unenforceable contract to me.
And you dont own the game, you own rights to play that particular game using particular technologies.
So if I don't own the media, if the media gets scratched and I own the rights to play the game on the technology, does that mean that Microsoft has to send me a replacement disc? If not, then I didn't buy the rights to play that particular game using that particular technology, did I?
Yes. In the United States, they were granted a monopoly over the telephone industry by the government because telephone was considered an essential part of the infrastructure, but as part of that deal, they had to let competitors use their copper (which was laid with some public funding and the legal monopoly status and thus had already paid for itself many times over). That's part of what the Bell System Divestiture was all about.
And how are Microsoft and Apple different again? Oh, one screws a larger group of people than the other? And that makes it okay why?
Bad analogy. First, I own the Xbox 360, so I should be able to hack it any way that I choose. I purchased it, it is my property. If Microsoft wanted to retain control over the machine they sold me, they should call it a lease, not a sale.
Second, who said anything about not paying for games games? Certainly not me. As much as I dislike the current IP laws, I obey them. My beef is that I cannot make my own games for the system without using Microsoft's proprietary tools and play backups of the games that I have purchased to avoid damaging the original discs.
I do not own the ATM or the bank. The property in the store is not mine. I have no right to do whatever I please with it. I purchased the Xbox 360, so I should be able to do whatever I please with it.
Moron.
No, it's recognized that they need to break up monopolies abusing their powers to prevent competition from being established or surviving. Monopolies that exist because no other competitors are willing or able, absent market manipulation by the company with the monopoly, to enter the market are okay.
These are rare, however, they exist.
"Defective by design" is one of the phrases the FSF uses to describe DRM. The Xbox 360 has DRM, there's no question about that. You can't just copy a game using a DVD burner and play it even if you own a copy of the game. It makes backing up your games (and yes with a bunch of drunk frat boys, it makes sense to not have to sink $60 into another copy of the game because someone got drunk and played Frisbee with it) impossible without modifying your console. If you modify your console, however, Microsoft has said that they will ban you because they assume that you will be playing "pirated" games or are cheating on Xbox Live.
While the NXE helps a little in this regard (you can copy games to the hard drive), it also doesn't completely solve the problem (you need to have the original game in the drive to start the game).
Don't even get me started on the Xbox Live Marketplace.
Or you could just take a screengrab of a single window. There are only two windows usually on my desktop larger than 800x600: my browser and a text editor.
Microsoft Visual Studio - catering to newborn developers and their lack of descended testicles since 1997!
Easy idea - pull a Saturn. Set up a company whose only job is to sell Linux laptops, and make sure that HP has a large ownership interest in them. Then the only risk is making sure that those laptops sell without worrying about Microsoft shafting you on Windows licensing prices. If they sell well, then re-absorb the company and tell Microsoft to pound sand.
I nominate this post for the "Most Insightful Post Ever Made in an 'Is Linux Ready For the Desktop?' Topic" award.
you can enjoy someone's work without condoning their lifestyle
Ironic given that Orson Scott Card has advocated the violent overthrow of the government due to his bigotry and hatred of gays (outright disapproval of their lifestyle). What makes you think that he deserves anything better from us?
Besides, he's written many best selling books. He's filthy stinkin' rich because of his opinion and his writings.
A popular opinion is not an opinion based on the truth. There was a time when the general sentiment of the country was for slavery and after that segregation. We see those times as backward and shameful.
From the Gnash website:
Streaming Video
Gnash supports the viewing of streaming video from popular video sharing sites like Lulu.tv or YouTube.com.
When they stop claiming it as a feature, then they get to be free of my criticism of their broken feature.
Final-fucking-ly.
Now if only Gnash and libswf would get their shit together. I can't even play YouTube with their latest releases on my AMD64 box.