Patent law was designed for a different time in our history. I agree that it is important to protect legitimate Intelectual property, but I feel that our patent office's are woefully undereducated, and are making bad choices in awarding patents. Any, that's my 2 cents worth
They all use Linux Kernels, and related drivers. I haven't noticed any difference in stability between SuSE and Red Hat, and Debian, and Slack..... and on and on. IT'S ALL GOOD
Hmmm, I wonder what such a beast would do to the Linux community. Just imagine if they actually did it right, and MS Linux was actually good. Just imagine what kind of Distrobution wars we would have. Oh lord, I think I see it comming, hmm, we had better prepare.
Ignore the press, good and bad. It's all FUD one way or the other. Focus on the code, focus on the goal. Work to better your understanding of Linux and its many tools. Keep a cool head, avoid flames, and Just Do It:) Don't let the media play you for a fool. Don't let them control your emotions.
I see no need to believe in anything other than what I can see, touch, hear, or extrapolate through reason. I also see no need to tell other people how they should believe. I don't believe in happy ever after stories, but I respect those who do. In my humble opinion, you are born, you live, you die. What you do is not important at all. We are fleas on a dog in this massive universe. I personally think that any religion is tied to mankinds inherent ego. We think that we are so important that a God would spend his time and energy trying to save us. That this whole Universe is here just for us. Sorry, I just don't think mankind is that important. Anyway, that is my humble opinion. I would make no presumptions to force it upon you, only to share it with you. For I am just a mere human, who am I to say I am right.
Hmm, I didn't know that egcs came from Cygnus. I have used it, and it works well. However, I am currently compiling(did I spell that right) with gcc 2.7.xxxx. Anyhow, no offense was intended to Cygnus or egcs.
That's good by me, as for Mac OS X, well, let them do what they want to do. I'd like to try it out, though I don't have the cash nor the computer to do so. For the moment, I will stick with my Linux on AMD.
I water cool my computer by placing the mother board and components in my bathtub. I fill the bath tub with ice, salt, and water. My hard drive is currently in my toilet. I suggest rinsing the processor off, and then drying it in the microwave, before you put it on the mother board. For added effect, I turn my hair dryer on, and drop it in the tub full of water and computer. The extra voltage helps speed the processor up. The keyboard is grouted to the shower head, and the monitor hangs off the towel rack. Currently I have a 5mhz 8086 clocked to 200 Terahertz. Asside from the occasional underwater fire, it doesn't seem to mind. I do recommend that you ground yourself to the hot end of a High Voltage power line, before you get in the tub. Also note that welding goggels may be necessary, as the processor is near the Nuclear Fusion temprature, and may emit up to 10megawatts of pure UltraViolet radiation. You may experience the occasional rip in the time space near the processor, if this keeps occuring, lower the clock speed by 50 Terahertz. On rare occasions, black holes may develope near the power supply. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE should you pass the event horrizon of the black hole. Do not turn the power off , as this may collapse the universe into your bathroom. There are no known workarounds for the Black Hole problem.
Russians have always been great with theory, but poor with implimentation. I sincerely doubt that the E2K will ever exist. If it does, it won't be a Pentium or PPC killer. Anything can look good on paper. Putting it to silicon is a very different matter. The ALPHA is where it is at in terms of technology. Nothing else really compares.
Wait, I'm putting on my flame proof suit,..... okay, BEGIN FLAMING NOW:
SCO is the lowest of the Uni*s. SCO is not a company that any self respecting Unix person would want to associate themselves with. The fact that they can now run Linux binaries simply means that they are trying to make themselves look better. They are dying, and they are trying to do anything to stay alive. As for Net BSD running Linux binaries, well that I can live with. The *BSD's are very respectable Uni*s. Linux takes alot of it's cue's from the *BSD flavors, so It's cool that Linux can give something back in the way of available binaries. Just say NO to SCO.
PS, No offence to you SCO admins and programmers, Hey, we all have to do what we have to do. It's SCO I don't like, not the people forced to use it.
It would be great if we could gather data from all of the willing commercial sites that deploy Linux. I would love to see a side by side comparison of Linux and NT as they are deployed in these enterprises. If this has already been done, let me know, if not, we should do it.
There is one aspect of the slashdot effect, that no one has mentioned. What about all of the lost man hours due to All of us slashdoters wasting company time on Slashdot. You know, if we are not careful, we could bring the world economy crashing down. Forget Y2k, fear SSK. (Slashdot's site killers):)
Linux is easy to learn if you are not a lazy ass. Get up off your butt, read the "fine" manual, and do the examples. If you want power and stability, you have to pay the price. That price for Linux is about One month of about one hour per day to get the basics, it aint rocket science. As for windows being easy, I would have to disagree. It looks easy, and if you don't try to do anything usefull, it is easy. If you have ever tried to work on the registry, or write a usefull batch file, you would know Windows is not easy. What little power there is, is hard to get to, and not stable when you use it. Thats my 2 cents worth.
I just upgraded SuSE 5.3 to SuSE 6.0, with an i386 2.2.1 kernel that I cooked up on my RedHat 5.2 system. I am running out of computers to install linux on. I need a computer for each distro. Lets see, one for Debian, one for RedHat, one for SuSE, one for Yellow Dog(PPC distro), one for This distro, one for Caldera, Hmmm, I need a SGI to install the MIPS distro, oh and a Sun for the SPARC distros. Hmmmm, oh yeah, I need a DEC MicroVAX 3100 for the VAX distro. Oh, don't forget the strong arm, and mc68k, oh and I heard someone was doing an Intel I960 port. Man, ya just gotta love Linux.
Ignore the media. Ignore the good press, ignore the bad press, ignore the idiots. Just sit down, relax, and write the code. We are doing just fine, and things will be fine in the future. Focus on the goals, not the press.
Hey, all of my invisible friends have dissappeared, and the voices don't know where they are. Has anyone seen my invisible friends? Anyway , Rob, me and all of the voices in my head wish you the best!
Every one seems to think that We need a standard GUI for Linux. Nothing could be farther from the truth. What we need is a Common Object Request Broker:) With CORBA, any desktop will do as long as it supports common objects. This would give the same drag and drop support for all desktops. As for a standard GUI that ships with your Distro, try either KDE of Gnome. Most major distros come with at least one. KDE is a little more 'cooked', but GNOME is looking good. As for Be, I have tried it , and I didn't see the point. It's GUI is marginal, KDE is much nicer, and it has little to no software support. If I am going to run Linux apps, then I am going to run Linux. This brings me to this point. The only reason Linux has garnered so much attention from the developers and the press is because it is Open. Developers find it much easier to develope if the source is available, and the tools are open. It will be hard to attract OSS developers to Be, if the developers feel that they are developing for a proprietary OS, and one companies profit. If a developer writes code for Linux, he feals that he is writting for everyones benefit, at least that is how I feel. If I were to write specifically for BeOS, I would feel that I am writing for BeOS's benefit only. In that case, I would want the big bucks. Since BeOS is so marginal, that wouldn't happen. It also bothers me that BeOS finds it necessary to borrow most of its Apps and development tools from the OSS community. If you are going to benefit from the OSS community efforts, than you should give back to that community. SHOW US THE SOURCE. Don't get me wrong, I don't intend to bash on Be developers, or even the OS itself. Instead, I question the philosophy of the company behind BeOS. Take the leap of faith, open the source, you will be glad you did. We OSS developers would love to contribute to BeOS, if only we were given the right environment to do so.
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Patent law was designed for a different time in our history. I agree that it is important to protect legitimate Intelectual property, but I feel that our patent office's are woefully undereducated, and are making bad choices in awarding patents. Any, that's my 2 cents worth
They all use Linux Kernels, and related drivers. I
haven't noticed any difference in stability between SuSE and Red Hat, and Debian, and Slack..... and on and on. IT'S ALL GOOD
Ummm, no. I just thought it was funny
Hmmm, I wonder what such a beast would do to the Linux community. Just imagine if they actually did it right, and MS Linux was actually good. Just imagine what kind of Distrobution wars we would have. Oh lord, I think I see it comming, hmm, we had better prepare.
Ignore the press, good and bad. It's all FUD one way or the other. Focus on the code, focus on the goal. Work to better your understanding of Linux and its many tools. Keep a cool head, avoid flames, and Just Do It :) Don't let the media play you for a fool. Don't let them control your emotions.
I see no need to believe in anything other than what I can see, touch, hear, or extrapolate through reason. I also see no need to tell other people how they should believe. I don't believe in happy ever after stories, but I respect those who do. In my humble opinion, you are born, you live, you die. What you do is not important at all. We are fleas on a dog in this massive universe. I personally think that any religion is tied to mankinds inherent ego. We think that we are so important that a God would spend his time and energy trying to save us. That this whole Universe is here just for us. Sorry, I just don't think mankind is that important. Anyway, that is my humble opinion. I would make no presumptions to force it upon you, only to share it with you. For I am just a mere human, who am I to say I am right.
But I think I will stick with Linux.
Hmm, I didn't know that egcs came from Cygnus. I have used it, and it works well. However, I am currently compiling(did I spell that right) with
gcc 2.7.xxxx. Anyhow, no offense was intended to Cygnus or egcs.
I am quite happy with the performance and stability of gcc.
That's good by me, as for Mac OS X, well, let them do what they want to do. I'd like to try it out, though I don't have the cash nor the computer to do so. For the moment, I will stick with my Linux on AMD.
I water cool my computer by placing the mother board and components in my bathtub. I fill the bath tub with ice, salt, and water. My hard drive is currently in my toilet. I suggest rinsing the processor off, and then drying it in the microwave, before you put it on the mother board. For added effect, I turn my hair dryer on, and drop it in the tub full of water and computer. The extra voltage helps speed the processor up. The keyboard is grouted to the shower head, and the monitor hangs off the towel rack. Currently I have a 5mhz 8086 clocked to 200 Terahertz. Asside from the occasional underwater fire, it doesn't seem to mind. I do recommend that you ground yourself to the hot end of a High Voltage power line, before you get in the tub. Also note that welding goggels may be necessary, as the processor is near the Nuclear Fusion temprature, and may emit up to 10megawatts of pure UltraViolet radiation. You may experience the occasional rip in the time space near the processor, if this keeps occuring, lower the clock speed by 50 Terahertz. On rare occasions, black holes may develope near the power supply. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE should you pass the event horrizon of the black hole. Do not turn the power off , as this may collapse the universe into your bathroom. There are no known workarounds for the Black Hole problem.
Russians have always been great with theory, but poor with implimentation. I sincerely doubt that the E2K will ever exist. If it does, it won't be a Pentium or PPC killer. Anything can look good on paper. Putting it to silicon is a very different matter. The ALPHA is where it is at in terms of technology. Nothing else really compares.
..... okay,
Wait, I'm putting on my flame proof suit,
BEGIN FLAMING NOW:
SCO is the lowest of the Uni*s. SCO is not a company that any self respecting Unix person would want to associate themselves with. The fact that they can now run Linux binaries simply means that they are trying to make themselves look better. They are dying, and they are trying to do anything to stay alive. As for Net BSD running Linux binaries, well that I can live with. The *BSD's are very respectable Uni*s. Linux takes alot of it's cue's from the *BSD flavors, so It's cool that Linux can give something back in the way of available binaries. Just say NO to SCO.
PS, No offence to you SCO admins and programmers, Hey, we all have to do what we have to do. It's SCO I don't like, not the people forced to use it.
Oops, it was late, thanks for noting that
The Nitro :)
It would be great if we could gather data from all of the willing commercial sites that deploy Linux. I would love to see a side by side comparison of Linux and NT as they are deployed in these enterprises. If this has already been done, let me know, if not, we should do it.
There is one aspect of the slashdot effect, that no one has mentioned. What about all of the lost man hours due to All of us slashdoters wasting company time on Slashdot. You know, if we are not careful, we could bring the world economy crashing down. Forget Y2k, fear SSK. (Slashdot's site killers) :)
Linux is easy to learn if you are not a lazy ass. Get up off your butt, read the "fine" manual, and do the examples. If you want power and stability, you have to pay the price. That price for Linux is about One month of about one hour per day to get the basics, it aint rocket science. As for windows being easy, I would have to disagree. It looks easy, and if you don't try to do anything usefull, it is easy. If you have ever tried to work on the registry, or write a usefull batch file, you would know Windows is not easy. What little power there is, is hard to get to, and not stable when you use it. Thats my 2 cents worth.
Articles, what articles? I didn't know Play Boy had articles.
cat How | grep "I love thee" > The_ways
# Let me; wc -c The_ways
# Define when = at; when=at
# Define NEED_YOU; NEED_YOU=`date | awk '{ print $4 }'
$when -f I $NEED_YOU
YOU="ARE_THERE"
#Define ASK_MYSELF; ASK_MYSELF=$NEED_YOU;
$when -f I $ASK_MYSELF
whoami
#Re_Define You; You=echo
#Define tell_me; tell_me=`whoami`
$You $tell_me
$You calm me
#You; touch me_in_ways_I_barely_understand
#With love, The Machine
I just upgraded SuSE 5.3 to SuSE 6.0, with an i386 2.2.1 kernel that I cooked up on my RedHat 5.2 system. I am running out of computers to install linux on. I need a computer for each distro. Lets see, one for Debian, one for RedHat, one for SuSE, one for Yellow Dog(PPC distro), one for This distro, one for Caldera, Hmmm, I need a SGI to install the MIPS distro, oh and a Sun for the SPARC distros. Hmmmm, oh yeah, I need a DEC MicroVAX 3100 for the VAX distro. Oh, don't forget the strong arm, and mc68k, oh and I heard someone was doing an Intel I960 port. Man, ya just gotta love Linux.
Ignore the media. Ignore the good press, ignore the bad press, ignore the idiots. Just sit down, relax, and write the code. We are doing just fine, and things will be fine in the future. Focus on the goals, not the press.
Hey, all of my invisible friends have dissappeared, and the voices don't know where they are. Has anyone seen my invisible friends? Anyway , Rob, me and all of the voices in my head wish you the best!
:)
Keep up the Good work, Metaphor
We're with you, Chaos
Don't let it get you down, Reality
We feel your pain, Master Switch
I am possessed by daemons.
-Master INIT
Every one seems to think that We need a standard GUI for Linux. Nothing could be farther from the truth. What we need is a Common Object Request Broker :) With CORBA, any desktop will do as long as it supports common objects. This would give the same drag and drop support for all desktops. As for a standard GUI that ships with your Distro, try either KDE of Gnome. Most major distros come with at least one. KDE is a little more 'cooked', but GNOME is looking good. As for Be, I have tried it , and I didn't see the point. It's GUI is marginal, KDE is much nicer, and it has little to no software support. If I am going to run Linux apps, then I am going to run Linux.
This brings me to this point. The only reason Linux has garnered so much attention from the developers and the press is because it is Open. Developers find it much easier to develope if the source is available, and the tools are open. It will be hard to attract OSS developers to Be, if the developers feel that they are developing for a proprietary OS, and one companies profit. If a developer writes code for Linux, he feals that he is writting for everyones benefit, at least that is how I feel. If I were to write specifically for BeOS, I would feel that I am writing for BeOS's benefit only. In that case, I would want the big bucks. Since BeOS is so marginal, that wouldn't happen. It also bothers me that BeOS finds it necessary to borrow most of its Apps and development tools from the OSS community. If you are going to benefit from the OSS community efforts, than you should give back to that community. SHOW US THE SOURCE.
Don't get me wrong, I don't intend to bash on Be developers, or even the OS itself. Instead, I question the philosophy of the company behind BeOS. Take the leap of faith, open the source, you
will be glad you did. We OSS developers would love to contribute to BeOS, if only we were given the right environment to do so.
Linux runs fine on anything from one to sixteen processors. With kernel 2.2.x, this has gotten better. Linux handles SMP just fine.