Let me quote what I found on a mesage board today... let's say this'll make your comment seem like nothing. This is horrible:
"(not unlike all the os dicussions going on, what is coolest/best? linux or windows? we all know windows is "better", it may just not be so fucking cool, all depending on each individual's interests;" [...] "some people may have problems accepting that others simply just are more creative/better humans."
You are now considered a better human if you use windows... And that story doesnt seem so far out anymore.
We like to talk about how linux will get stronger in the desktop market. Well I'd say that depends on the attitude. It's gonna need some help. Imagine the roar on/. if MS released a Windows Millenium Super Extra Special Edition, that defaulted to an install with open services on ports 1-1024.
The only way a sysadmin is gonna be sure he knows about his system is to have everything off by default. Rather than a "hey I found out apache was running and turned it off, i wonder what else may be running", I'd like a "I turned on service1 and service2, because i needed them and nothing else". There is, simply put, no reason to make anything that's not secure by default.
Of course it's your responsibility, but if you dont sometimes say "suchandsuch should have done thingummybob", then you can take that as far as you like. It suddenly becomes your responsibility to know everythign about every program installed on your box. That's not an option if you want linux to gain a wide use as a desktop.
As a final note, if you replace "suchandsuch" in your sentance with Microsoft, then you have a sentance that lots and lots of slashdotters use a lot, especially when it comes to security.
Really, the situation will be the same again... "Hey, I just got a [cable|DSL|ISDN], let those guys on [T1|faster conneciton of your choice]'s share...
If you dont have the bandwidth to share, then you dont have the bandwidth to leech either. Simple maths. All the rest is just talk to cover up your ego.
Exactly... most files are very hard to get at in gnutella now. I share files, and I've had to set upload amounts to one file at a time to save a little bandwidth for myself... and that slot is always busy. The net is full with leeches.
As for your note on leeches, it's funny how the gnutella-advocating-slashdot editors (in this case Hemos) openly agrees that he goes to some lengths to defeat the sharing idea.
Oh come on... how hard would it be to show that regular VCRs and video tapes are being used for piracy? This mean we should make VCRs illegal? No. You can prove that it's being used for piracy all you want, that doesn't take away its other uses in any way.
Of course, the most important component of a CD is the artist?s effort in developing that music.
Then why is the artists' compensation such a tiny part of a CDs price? Perhaps because you're not really paying for [CD of your choice], you're paying for the Record Labels' marketing for Britney Spears and friends, and the RIAAs campaign against Napster.
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Give me a break. How many "this bug will give a remote site access to your files" reports havent you heard about ie? Think you have all those bugs fixed on your install? I don't.
I agree telling people to shut java off is just stupid... but i fail to see the difference with MS Outlook fix: "It's not a problem. Users shouldn't be running attachments when they don't know what they are anyway"
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Well I'm using netscape too. Not because IE is unstable, but because I don't have the money to hire someone fulltime to install the security updates for it.
Last thing I saw about it was that it had been taken down to be reevaluated... has UCITA really been accepted as law in VA now, or is it still in some kind of non-determined state?
Well it could be the server software. Netscapes servers suck. I've worked with a site running off a Netscape server for 2 years now and during those years we've had nothing but trouble with it.
I didn't call you a liar, however since I don't know you, I merely wanted to raise the point that you may not be telling the truth since there is so much anti-ms fud going around.
You didn't call me a liar, you just said I wasn't telling the truth..? errr.... oh-kay;)
As for video drivers, the ones I run now are beta, but the ones I used to run were not. I've had the same problem with both. I don't think that a video driver failure would look like it (winamp bursts out half a second of music at a time like 10 seconds apart, no input gets any reaction...)
As for blue screens, I don't know how, but I know it crashes (never seen it, just heard him talk about it). It might just as well be some other kind of crash. I think I did see a blue screen once though, when my machine rebooted, I think it flickered a BSOD at me for a second or so (IIRC there's an option somewhere to autoreboot in case of a crash, I have it on, and that could be the reason noone sees a blue screen anymore).
Regarding Win2k betas, those where very very far from the final release, and I had so much problems with those it's incredible.
Yes I do run Win2k (at home, which probably matters since you run very diff apps at home and at work), I've had it crash a number of times. One time it just plain rebooted all of a sudden, a few others it just basicly stopped responding (no, I couldn't get task manager up).
I never said Windows 2000 wasn't a decent product. It eats lots of less memory than Win98 did (I have 384 megs RAM, Win98 would eat all that in one night... bleh), so I've never had any memory problems with Win2k (though I guess it could just be me not noticing).
So, this machine has crashed maybe once each two weeks on average, the one at work has crashed on me only once, my father runs a Win2k server (yeah he's one of them windows pros) that bluescreens each time you send it too large print jobs.
All in all... I think Win2k is a decent OS... for a desktop. I still wouldn't ever wanna use it as a server. YMMW. Don't call me a liar just because your experience is different. And I was very far from bashing blindly, I use the OS each day.
Of course... just trying to point out that maybe people at slashdot have a reason to distrust information coming from Microsoft.
Simply, there's no impartial information regarding this at all. In this case, as you pointed out later, there are other reasons that point in this direction, but just because there are no evidence doesn't mean I'll trust what MS says more.
Simply put: I think MS would still claim it never happened, even if there were strong evidence that it did.
Well, I run Win2k pro as a desktop... and let's say it's better than Win9x, it only crashes once a week or once every two weeks, but no way I'd use it as a server...
Hotmail WILL run on exclusively Microsoft products...
Of course it will... and then it wont be long until you hear MS marketing saying "look, one of the biggest sites on the internet, hotmail.com, runs on MS products, if our products can handle that, they can handle anything.
What makes you think DeCSS isn't copyrighted? It's not copyrighted by the MPAA, but if I have things right, then Jon Johanssen (and whoever else...) holds the copyright to it. It has also been released (I think) under the GPL... meaning this really has nothing to do with the copyright of DeCSS. So.. what this argument really is about is...? Well that you can use the code to break copyright of others.
Now really that's true, but also I can use a pen for that. Let's ban all pens. That's what the T-shirt issue was trying to point out... both can be used break copyright, but also are both forms of expression, and such tools of freedom of speech.
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"(not unlike all the os dicussions going on, what is coolest/best? linux or windows? we all know windows is "better", it may just not be so fucking cool, all depending on each individual's interests;" [...] "some people may have problems accepting that others simply just are more creative/better humans."
You are now considered a better human if you use windows... And that story doesnt seem so far out anymore.
I dont use IE so theyre not tracking me with that.
We like to talk about how linux will get stronger in the desktop market. Well I'd say that depends on the attitude. It's gonna need some help. Imagine the roar on /. if MS released a Windows Millenium Super Extra Special Edition, that defaulted to an install with open services on ports 1-1024.
The only way a sysadmin is gonna be sure he knows about his system is to have everything off by default. Rather than a "hey I found out apache was running and turned it off, i wonder what else may be running", I'd like a "I turned on service1 and service2, because i needed them and nothing else". There is, simply put, no reason to make anything that's not secure by default.
Of course it's your responsibility, but if you dont sometimes say "suchandsuch should have done thingummybob", then you can take that as far as you like. It suddenly becomes your responsibility to know everythign about every program installed on your box. That's not an option if you want linux to gain a wide use as a desktop.
As a final note, if you replace "suchandsuch" in your sentance with Microsoft, then you have a sentance that lots and lots of slashdotters use a lot, especially when it comes to security.
gnutella was constructed in a way so that if you can download, you can upload. try it.
So, because it's about freedom it doesnt matter when people abuse this freedom?
Really, the situation will be the same again... "Hey, I just got a [cable|DSL|ISDN], let those guys on [T1|faster conneciton of your choice]'s share...
If you dont have the bandwidth to share, then you dont have the bandwidth to leech either. Simple maths. All the rest is just talk to cover up your ego.
As for your note on leeches, it's funny how the gnutella-advocating-slashdot editors (in this case Hemos) openly agrees that he goes to some lengths to defeat the sharing idea.
Nice.
Oh come on... how hard would it be to show that regular VCRs and video tapes are being used for piracy? This mean we should make VCRs illegal? No. You can prove that it's being used for piracy all you want, that doesn't take away its other uses in any way.
Catch my point? :-)
Then why is the artists' compensation such a tiny part of a CDs price? Perhaps because you're not really paying for [CD of your choice], you're paying for the Record Labels' marketing for Britney Spears and friends, and the RIAAs campaign against Napster.
I agree telling people to shut java off is just stupid... but i fail to see the difference with MS Outlook fix: "It's not a problem. Users shouldn't be running attachments when they don't know what they are anyway"
Well I'm using netscape too. Not because IE is unstable, but because I don't have the money to hire someone fulltime to install the security updates for it.
Last thing I saw about it was that it had been taken down to be reevaluated... has UCITA really been accepted as law in VA now, or is it still in some kind of non-determined state?
Well it could be the server software. Netscapes servers suck. I've worked with a site running off a Netscape server for 2 years now and during those years we've had nothing but trouble with it.
A. None, they just declare darkness as the new standard.
Didn't we just see this a few weeks ago on /. ?
You didn't call me a liar, you just said I wasn't telling the truth..? errr.... oh-kay ;)
As for video drivers, the ones I run now are beta, but the ones I used to run were not. I've had the same problem with both. I don't think that a video driver failure would look like it (winamp bursts out half a second of music at a time like 10 seconds apart, no input gets any reaction...)
As for blue screens, I don't know how, but I know it crashes (never seen it, just heard him talk about it). It might just as well be some other kind of crash. I think I did see a blue screen once though, when my machine rebooted, I think it flickered a BSOD at me for a second or so (IIRC there's an option somewhere to autoreboot in case of a crash, I have it on, and that could be the reason noone sees a blue screen anymore).
Regarding Win2k betas, those where very very far from the final release, and I had so much problems with those it's incredible.
I never said Windows 2000 wasn't a decent product. It eats lots of less memory than Win98 did (I have 384 megs RAM, Win98 would eat all that in one night... bleh), so I've never had any memory problems with Win2k (though I guess it could just be me not noticing).
So, this machine has crashed maybe once each two weeks on average, the one at work has crashed on me only once, my father runs a Win2k server (yeah he's one of them windows pros) that bluescreens each time you send it too large print jobs.
All in all... I think Win2k is a decent OS... for a desktop. I still wouldn't ever wanna use it as a server. YMMW. Don't call me a liar just because your experience is different. And I was very far from bashing blindly, I use the OS each day.
Simply, there's no impartial information regarding this at all. In this case, as you pointed out later, there are other reasons that point in this direction, but just because there are no evidence doesn't mean I'll trust what MS says more.
Simply put: I think MS would still claim it never happened, even if there were strong evidence that it did.
Oh come on... did you ever see a little button with "Preview" on it?
I have an idea!
Maybe we could make fools out of the folks at Slashdot by posting a reply that describes their foolishness. That would teach 'em!
Well, I run Win2k pro as a desktop... and let's say it's better than Win9x, it only crashes once a week or once every two weeks, but no way I'd use it as a server...
Of course it will... and then it wont be long until you hear MS marketing saying "look, one of the biggest sites on the internet, hotmail.com, runs on MS products, if our products can handle that, they can handle anything.
Oh damn we're all stupid. Let's not think Microsoft ever lie about anything. That'd be dumb. Oh, and they never leak anything either.
Now really that's true, but also I can use a pen for that. Let's ban all pens. That's what the T-shirt issue was trying to point out... both can be used break copyright, but also are both forms of expression, and such tools of freedom of speech.