I happen to believe that the three strikes law is stupid, unjust, unfair, and also applied in an unfair manner.
OTOH, the legislature had been doing a terrible job. Referendum can be counted upon to do a poor job, but in that case the legislature had been doing worse. And, unfortunately, it often does even worse than the referendum legislation...which is nearly uniformly bad.
In the case of the legislature, I suspect that it's due to campaign finance laws. Even the state legislature is bought and sold by corporate intereses. (I hope that smaller states have less of this problem. They OUGHT to, on theoretical grounds, but if the big government states sufficiently corrupt the standard morals, then they might not be *much* better.)
As for "this product is believed by the state of California to cause cancer", that warning is quite reasonable. If you disagree with the warning, you should be free to ignore it, but not to expose people to it without warning them. (Again, this was referendum legislation, so it was written by *believers*, or it would never have gotten passed. And this means that there will be lots of bad parts to it. But the legislation had refused to act.)
I really despise laws passed by referendum. They are always poorly written, often overbroad, and usually written by "true believers". The problem is that the legislature tends to ignore the concerns of the populace, so what alternative is there? (FWIW, I think legislation passed by referendum should have the same status as an ordinary law unless it gets a 2/3 vote of the populace. That way bugs could be fixed as easily as in normal laws. I.e., not very easily, but possible. Unfortunately, the referendum was designed as a modification of the state constitution. Poor design decision. And extremely difficult to revise.)
Is he in California? It's a state law, not a federal law.
That said, I believe the laws should be such that he would be liable for identity fraud. Making public data that was revealed under the explicit understanding that it would be kept private should qualify.
I'm less certain that it should be illegal to tag pictures that are already publicly available.
IIUC, he COULD be charged with copyright infringement, as, IIUC, one's photograph has the copyright owned by oneself unless an explicit document has been signed to allow it to be shared. This, however, is rarely enforced unless one is a movie star. (There may be something in there about comercial gain. IANAL, so don't count on this being accurate.)
A point, but now we are into Bayesian reasoning rather than the normal philosophy of science.
P.S.: The assertion is even more limited than you suggest. Many sciences are observational rather than experimental in nature, and the observations available to be made may not either validate or refute some particular theory. (E,g,: Was there ever a three toed dinosaur? Perhaps there is no evidence that there was, but that's not proof, as the record is quite incomplete. That would be a theory that could be plausibly confirmed, but not falsified. But it's also not one that would be strongly believed in the absence of evidence.)
What test is used for the presence of a soul? Please note that self reporting is not a valid test, as it's easy to program such an assertion in a loop.
Also, on what basis do you assert that my dog doesn't have a soul?
You misunderstand. It's impossible to verify a scientific theory, though one should be able to replicate the results. But the possibility of falsification is what makes a theory scientific.
WRT verification, all you can say is "It fits the available evidence, and of that evidence xxxx was not known at the time the theory was constructed." You can NEVER prove it true.
Also to those who actually had to read the stupid and obscene book. I admit to enjoying the part about Lot and his daughters, but I didn't understand it until much later. (Also "Lot's wife's name was Ester. Because she was an organic salt."...That's from when I had to reread it in high school.)
I will admit that there are selected verses that support a decent morality. But most of them are the morality of a street gang. Even in the "New Testament" in the gospels you find considerable immorality, though I'll admit it's much closer to moral. But what did that poor fig tree ever do to Jesus, and why should he expect figs in April? Or, possibly, March. And while it's reasonable to say that business shouldn't be conducted in the temple, perhaps you haven't considered the function of money changers. Their purpose was to allow you to make an offering, even if your coins were issued in another country, or by another government. (And probably to do the equivalent of breaking a $20.) So was it moral to mob them? Not hardly.
The characterization of humans as animals is, indeed, arbitrary, just as the heliocentric solar system is arbitrary. Ptlomeics CAN handle the same information.
I would be interested in the definition that you use for animal that includes all other animals, and does not include humans.
I'll admit that I've no more than looked at the Gtk's objectivication of C. I shuddered, and went elsewhere, but I can't really say that I analyzed it.
I would never say that higher level languages are faster. Most of the features I consider most valueable slow down execution at run time. (Array bounds checking, garbage collection, etc.) But the penalty doesn't need to be large, and when the concept you are working with is, say, a hash table, it works a lot better if it's built into the language rather than added on as a library. (And yes, the language implementation will probably be in C, or something like it [which is mainly assembler].)
OTOH, it's also true that higher level languages often make bad choices as to how to represent their abstract features. C++ templates come to mind. Or Java generics. Or Ada string literals. (Note that the Ada string literal problem is likely to be BECAUSE the language has only an optional [and rarely implemented] garbage collector. So strings are by default of a fixed length. And can only work with other strings of the same length. This is fixed with bounded strings [and with unbounded], but that's not the default.)
But do note that these arguments are only for general purposes. For specific purposes different languages are superior. There are even places where assembler is superior to C (timing loops, e.g.) but those tend to be CPU dependent.
That's a real problem when different areas have different laws. It means that you are responsible for knowing all possible laws that might affect you in every country of the world, and that's actually impossible. Because you don't know what a law means until a court decides what it means....and the next court may decide something different.
IIRC, in Germany anyone can bring suit to enforce a copyright, not just the owner. In fact, I seem to recall that they can even do it when the owner of the copyright declines to enforce it. And that they can claim a share of the winnings for enforcing it. And that there are some companies of lawyers that do almost nothing else.
It was a few years ago, so the details are hazy, but I read about it on Slashdot, and I seem to recall that they were enforcing one of SuSE's pattents against the will of the company.
There ARE competent people doing C. Then there are the others. For some applications it's the right choice for a language to write in. But often it's "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". C is often used in inappropriate contexts. It's an excellent portable assembler, and it's usually appropriate where assembly code would otherwise be appropriate. But it's a poor choice for a complex program, and it encourages bad habits. There are other valid criticisms, but almost all of them are directed at the poor fit between the design of C and the thought processes of humans. It's an excellent language to compile a "higher" language into. ("Higher" here means that it deals with concepts that are more difficult to map into assembler.)
I agree with your points about code written in C by programmers, however...
You can't do much better than C by going to assembler, so C is a good target language. But much code written in many languaged could be improved by an automated translation into C with concurrent optimization. (The optimization needs to be done before it hits C, because you lose too much information in the process of translation.) The automatic translation avoids the difficulties of bounds checking, etc. If done properly it would (optionally) implement bounds checking wherever it couldn't prove that it could be omitted, etc.
Also, native C garbage collectors are inherently inefficient, because the C language doesn't reliably separate pointers from integers (etc.). But the translator, knowing the original language, could do this much more efficiently in the process of compiling from the original language to C.
So there's no reason not to standardize on C at the base level. And, of course, C compilers can optimize the C code.
FWIW, I dislike programming in C for multiple reasons. One of them is how it handles unicode. Another is the difficulty of implementing "class instance variables". (Class variables are easy, though. You just have one "class" per file, and static variables are equivalent of class variables.) I also prefer to have a good garbage collector. I dislike using pointers to reference structures. (In C++ I prefer to pass references as parameters rather than pointers to structs.) Etc. Of the languages that I'm familiar with, D is my preferred language, but it's missing a lot of library support, so I often use Python. Vala would be an excellent choice, if it coudl ever get it's documentation even to a beta level. (Do note that valac, the Vala compiler, has an option to allow you to generate C code.)
Not clear. The current computers aren't being used at nearly their optimum.
E.g., imagine an application that would take a program written for a virtual machine, and compile it to native code, and then optimize that code. If that seems unreasonable, you should not that LISP was originally an interpreter, and it was originally believed that it couldn't be compiled. Now almost all LISP implementations are compilers. (I have no idea how good they are at optimizing.)
So you need something that will do this for JavaScript, HTML, etc. Nobody bothers, because really it's not the CPU that's the bottleneck most of the time, but if there were a lot of multiprocessing applications around, this would start to be important.
Please note: For the purpose of this post I'm presuming that CPU/GPU development is frozen at it's current level, and that only software continues to develop. That is obviously false. But my estimate is that computers are used in a way that averages less than 50% of optimal. (This is, again obviously, a Wild Ass Guess. But I don't think you can do any better right now. And my secondary guess is that it's more likely to be too high than too low.)
Not really. This same kind of article pops up whenever a change in technologies starts to become appropriate. I.e., what we have installed now can't make the new stuff, and it's too expensive to build a new factory.
It's not that there isn't some validity to it's points, either. It's just that it's a short term perspective. The curve is bumpy, has been bumpy, and will continue to be bumpy. Sometimes it changes faster than Moore's law predicts, sometimes slower. The average is about right (though if I recall correctly, it's been adjusted in the past to speed it up).
It's also true that EVENTUALLY Moore's law (and it's associates) must end. When is an unanswerable question, though one can be fairly sure it will be before atomic level gates. (The noise level would be too high. You need to bring it down by dealing with multiple atoms. N.B.: This noise level has been a problem since at least the days of vacuum tubes. I'm not sure it was a major problem with gear driven calculators.)
And if she buys a second ticket, and she's refused flight again? She probably doesn't have enough money to go on that merry-go-round several times. She's already out the cost of one plane ticket without recompense.
No. You are overestimating how unfree the populace (outside prisons) is in the US. The number of people in the "least free" (non-prison) population has increased, but they are freer now that the "least free" (non-prison) population was in the past.
It's more like one end of the curve has contracted towards the mean.
The '60s and '70s were in many ways freer than now. But there's a distinction between free and freer. That was also the period when the border with Mexico became, essentially, militarized, and when the border with Canada became more difficult to cross. This process has increased. That was the period when the government increased domestic spying. That was the period when the federal governent increased its control over the state governments. Etc.
*I* was relatively free during that period. Partially because I was inelgible to be drafted. Many friends weren't. Some of them died from it. Note that the "civil rights movement" worked because it was assisting the federal government in increasing it's control over the states. This increased the freedom for many citizens, at the cost of decreasing the freedom of the intermediate level governments that the citizenry can more easily affect.
Things aren't as simple as you are seeing. During that period an "underground railway" developed to ferry people North who didn't want to go to VietNam. (And why were we even there? That was never explained to my satisfaction. Vietnam as a whole elected the guy that we divided the country to fight against. Stupid. And for WHAT? This was never explained to me.)
Freedom has multiple dimensions. And it's not just a matter of individual rights, but of the social structures that support those rights.
P.S.: Another factor in the 1960's and 1970's being freer is that the bulge of the population age was at that point in the late teens to 20's. People in that age group don't count the cost of their actions the way older people do. And older people tend to be more conservative. (Tend isn't deterministic, but it's close. Populations tend to have "resonant" modes of behavior, where certain activities are reinforced, and what is reinforced depends on the medium through which it passes. A younger population tends to have a more active resonance. So when the bulk of the population is at an active point, expect social activity to increase. War is one of the traditional ways to release this, and I have long felt that that was the reason for the Vietnam war. If so, it didn't work out as intended. Do note, however, that shortly after this period large and powerful interests began buying up new media. And they weren't, and aren't, very profitable. But they are dandy for shaping social movements.)
The implementation is clearly more straightforwards, and the argument about the distribution being monthly rather than yearly is good. I do, however, find that it feels more like a kludge. (OTOH, given the current tax law, that's not much of an argument.)
That's not the same thing at all. I'm not even sure that it's related.
The negative income tax could be implemented by having the tax be a simple: tax = income * rate + intercept
By adjusting the intercept so that the tax is negative whenever the income is below some value. The relationship of this to the "Earned Income Tax Credit" is not obvious. Do note that this is not a special bonus to low income workers, or some other subset of citizens.
I've now read that article, and to me it implies NOTHING about the lives of factory workers prior to, at minimum 1790, and more plausibly 1800. That's plenty of time to kill off a generation of people who used to have a source of income.
Also it talks largely in terms of averages. When the low extreme is 0 already, the mean is highly sensitive to outliers in the higher extreme, and relatively not much affected by an increase in the number of people moving to the lower extreme. Now they COULD have meant median when they said average, but that would be an unusual use of the term. When it's not otherwise defined, average usually means mean. In this kind of curve, however, the median is a much more useful number, and the second most important measure of central tendency is the mode. The mean is a somewhat distant third in importance. (Common phrases of a from that might have helped would have been "an average worker in a garment factory", and other similar forms.)
I realize that the information that I'm requesting is probably not available, but that's the kind of information that is needed to definitively answer this question. Either that or death rate by year by kind of employment, which is also generally not available.
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I happen to believe that the three strikes law is stupid, unjust, unfair, and also applied in an unfair manner.
OTOH, the legislature had been doing a terrible job. Referendum can be counted upon to do a poor job, but in that case the legislature had been doing worse. And, unfortunately, it often does even worse than the referendum legislation...which is nearly uniformly bad.
In the case of the legislature, I suspect that it's due to campaign finance laws. Even the state legislature is bought and sold by corporate intereses. (I hope that smaller states have less of this problem. They OUGHT to, on theoretical grounds, but if the big government states sufficiently corrupt the standard morals, then they might not be *much* better.)
As for "this product is believed by the state of California to cause cancer", that warning is quite reasonable. If you disagree with the warning, you should be free to ignore it, but not to expose people to it without warning them. (Again, this was referendum legislation, so it was written by *believers*, or it would never have gotten passed. And this means that there will be lots of bad parts to it. But the legislation had refused to act.)
I really despise laws passed by referendum. They are always poorly written, often overbroad, and usually written by "true believers". The problem is that the legislature tends to ignore the concerns of the populace, so what alternative is there?
(FWIW, I think legislation passed by referendum should have the same status as an ordinary law unless it gets a 2/3 vote of the populace. That way bugs could be fixed as easily as in normal laws. I.e., not very easily, but possible. Unfortunately, the referendum was designed as a modification of the state constitution. Poor design decision. And extremely difficult to revise.)
Is he in California? It's a state law, not a federal law.
That said, I believe the laws should be such that he would be liable for identity fraud. Making public data that was revealed under the explicit understanding that it would be kept private should qualify.
I'm less certain that it should be illegal to tag pictures that are already publicly available.
IIUC, he COULD be charged with copyright infringement, as, IIUC, one's photograph has the copyright owned by oneself unless an explicit document has been signed to allow it to be shared. This, however, is rarely enforced unless one is a movie star. (There may be something in there about comercial gain. IANAL, so don't count on this being accurate.)
I'm not all that sure of the "hard to trace" part.
A point, but now we are into Bayesian reasoning rather than the normal philosophy of science.
P.S.: The assertion is even more limited than you suggest. Many sciences are observational rather than experimental in nature, and the observations available to be made may not either validate or refute some particular theory. (E,g,: Was there ever a three toed dinosaur? Perhaps there is no evidence that there was, but that's not proof, as the record is quite incomplete. That would be a theory that could be plausibly confirmed, but not falsified. But it's also not one that would be strongly believed in the absence of evidence.)
What test is used for the presence of a soul? Please note that self reporting is not a valid test, as it's easy to program such an assertion in a loop.
Also, on what basis do you assert that my dog doesn't have a soul?
You misunderstand. It's impossible to verify a scientific theory, though one should be able to replicate the results. But the possibility of falsification is what makes a theory scientific.
WRT verification, all you can say is "It fits the available evidence, and of that evidence xxxx was not known at the time the theory was constructed." You can NEVER prove it true.
Perhaps you need to refer to the original article. And I suspect that you have misunderstood the antecendant used by the GP.
Also to those who actually had to read the stupid and obscene book. I admit to enjoying the part about Lot and his daughters, but I didn't understand it until much later. (Also "Lot's wife's name was Ester. Because she was an organic salt."...That's from when I had to reread it in high school.)
I will admit that there are selected verses that support a decent morality. But most of them are the morality of a street gang. Even in the "New Testament" in the gospels you find considerable immorality, though I'll admit it's much closer to moral. But what did that poor fig tree ever do to Jesus, and why should he expect figs in April? Or, possibly, March. And while it's reasonable to say that business shouldn't be conducted in the temple, perhaps you haven't considered the function of money changers. Their purpose was to allow you to make an offering, even if your coins were issued in another country, or by another government. (And probably to do the equivalent of breaking a $20.) So was it moral to mob them? Not hardly.
Because the marketing team does visuals?
The characterization of humans as animals is, indeed, arbitrary, just as the heliocentric solar system is arbitrary. Ptlomeics CAN handle the same information.
I would be interested in the definition that you use for animal that includes all other animals, and does not include humans.
I'll admit that I've no more than looked at the Gtk's objectivication of C. I shuddered, and went elsewhere, but I can't really say that I analyzed it.
I would never say that higher level languages are faster. Most of the features I consider most valueable slow down execution at run time. (Array bounds checking, garbage collection, etc.) But the penalty doesn't need to be large, and when the concept you are working with is, say, a hash table, it works a lot better if it's built into the language rather than added on as a library. (And yes, the language implementation will probably be in C, or something like it [which is mainly assembler].)
OTOH, it's also true that higher level languages often make bad choices as to how to represent their abstract features. C++ templates come to mind. Or Java generics. Or Ada string literals. (Note that the Ada string literal problem is likely to be BECAUSE the language has only an optional [and rarely implemented] garbage collector. So strings are by default of a fixed length. And can only work with other strings of the same length. This is fixed with bounded strings [and with unbounded], but that's not the default.)
But do note that these arguments are only for general purposes. For specific purposes different languages are superior. There are even places where assembler is superior to C (timing loops, e.g.) but those tend to be CPU dependent.
That's a real problem when different areas have different laws. It means that you are responsible for knowing all possible laws that might affect you in every country of the world, and that's actually impossible. Because you don't know what a law means until a court decides what it means....and the next court may decide something different.
IIRC, in Germany anyone can bring suit to enforce a copyright, not just the owner. In fact, I seem to recall that they can even do it when the owner of the copyright declines to enforce it. And that they can claim a share of the winnings for enforcing it. And that there are some companies of lawyers that do almost nothing else.
It was a few years ago, so the details are hazy, but I read about it on Slashdot, and I seem to recall that they were enforcing one of SuSE's pattents against the will of the company.
There ARE competent people doing C. Then there are the others. For some applications it's the right choice for a language to write in. But often it's "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". C is often used in inappropriate contexts. It's an excellent portable assembler, and it's usually appropriate where assembly code would otherwise be appropriate. But it's a poor choice for a complex program, and it encourages bad habits. There are other valid criticisms, but almost all of them are directed at the poor fit between the design of C and the thought processes of humans. It's an excellent language to compile a "higher" language into. ("Higher" here means that it deals with concepts that are more difficult to map into assembler.)
I agree with your points about code written in C by programmers, however...
You can't do much better than C by going to assembler, so C is a good target language. But much code written in many languaged could be improved by an automated translation into C with concurrent optimization. (The optimization needs to be done before it hits C, because you lose too much information in the process of translation.) The automatic translation avoids the difficulties of bounds checking, etc. If done properly it would (optionally) implement bounds checking wherever it couldn't prove that it could be omitted, etc.
Also, native C garbage collectors are inherently inefficient, because the C language doesn't reliably separate pointers from integers (etc.). But the translator, knowing the original language, could do this much more efficiently in the process of compiling from the original language to C.
So there's no reason not to standardize on C at the base level. And, of course, C compilers can optimize the C code.
FWIW, I dislike programming in C for multiple reasons. One of them is how it handles unicode. Another is the difficulty of implementing "class instance variables". (Class variables are easy, though. You just have one "class" per file, and static variables are equivalent of class variables.) I also prefer to have a good garbage collector. I dislike using pointers to reference structures. (In C++ I prefer to pass references as parameters rather than pointers to structs.) Etc. Of the languages that I'm familiar with, D is my preferred language, but it's missing a lot of library support, so I often use Python. Vala would be an excellent choice, if it coudl ever get it's documentation even to a beta level. (Do note that valac, the Vala compiler, has an option to allow you to generate C code.)
Not clear. The current computers aren't being used at nearly their optimum.
E.g., imagine an application that would take a program written for a virtual machine, and compile it to native code, and then optimize that code. If that seems unreasonable, you should not that LISP was originally an interpreter, and it was originally believed that it couldn't be compiled. Now almost all LISP implementations are compilers. (I have no idea how good they are at optimizing.)
So you need something that will do this for JavaScript, HTML, etc. Nobody bothers, because really it's not the CPU that's the bottleneck most of the time, but if there were a lot of multiprocessing applications around, this would start to be important.
Please note: For the purpose of this post I'm presuming that CPU/GPU development is frozen at it's current level, and that only software continues to develop. That is obviously false. But my estimate is that computers are used in a way that averages less than 50% of optimal. (This is, again obviously, a Wild Ass Guess. But I don't think you can do any better right now. And my secondary guess is that it's more likely to be too high than too low.)
Not really. This same kind of article pops up whenever a change in technologies starts to become appropriate. I.e., what we have installed now can't make the new stuff, and it's too expensive to build a new factory.
It's not that there isn't some validity to it's points, either. It's just that it's a short term perspective. The curve is bumpy, has been bumpy, and will continue to be bumpy. Sometimes it changes faster than Moore's law predicts, sometimes slower. The average is about right (though if I recall correctly, it's been adjusted in the past to speed it up).
It's also true that EVENTUALLY Moore's law (and it's associates) must end. When is an unanswerable question, though one can be fairly sure it will be before atomic level gates. (The noise level would be too high. You need to bring it down by dealing with multiple atoms. N.B.: This noise level has been a problem since at least the days of vacuum tubes. I'm not sure it was a major problem with gear driven calculators.)
By being wealthier, or more politically connected, than his opponent.
And if she buys a second ticket, and she's refused flight again? She probably doesn't have enough money to go on that merry-go-round several times. She's already out the cost of one plane ticket without recompense.
Thank you. That is clear. Now I can check what you said.
No. You are overestimating how unfree the populace (outside prisons) is in the US. The number of people in the "least free" (non-prison) population has increased, but they are freer now that the "least free" (non-prison) population was in the past.
It's more like one end of the curve has contracted towards the mean.
The '60s and '70s were in many ways freer than now. But there's a distinction between free and freer. That was also the period when the border with Mexico became, essentially, militarized, and when the border with Canada became more difficult to cross. This process has increased. That was the period when the government increased domestic spying. That was the period when the federal governent increased its control over the state governments. Etc.
*I* was relatively free during that period. Partially because I was inelgible to be drafted. Many friends weren't. Some of them died from it. Note that the "civil rights movement" worked because it was assisting the federal government in increasing it's control over the states. This increased the freedom for many citizens, at the cost of decreasing the freedom of the intermediate level governments that the citizenry can more easily affect.
Things aren't as simple as you are seeing. During that period an "underground railway" developed to ferry people North who didn't want to go to VietNam. (And why were we even there? That was never explained to my satisfaction. Vietnam as a whole elected the guy that we divided the country to fight against. Stupid. And for WHAT? This was never explained to me.)
Freedom has multiple dimensions. And it's not just a matter of individual rights, but of the social structures that support those rights.
P.S.: Another factor in the 1960's and 1970's being freer is that the bulge of the population age was at that point in the late teens to 20's. People in that age group don't count the cost of their actions the way older people do. And older people tend to be more conservative. (Tend isn't deterministic, but it's close. Populations tend to have "resonant" modes of behavior, where certain activities are reinforced, and what is reinforced depends on the medium through which it passes. A younger population tends to have a more active resonance. So when the bulk of the population is at an active point, expect social activity to increase. War is one of the traditional ways to release this, and I have long felt that that was the reason for the Vietnam war. If so, it didn't work out as intended. Do note, however, that shortly after this period large and powerful interests began buying up new media. And they weren't, and aren't, very profitable. But they are dandy for shaping social movements.)
The implementation is clearly more straightforwards, and the argument about the distribution being monthly rather than yearly is good. I do, however, find that it feels more like a kludge. (OTOH, given the current tax law, that's not much of an argument.)
That's not the same thing at all. I'm not even sure that it's related.
The negative income tax could be implemented by having the tax be a simple:
tax = income * rate + intercept
By adjusting the intercept so that the tax is negative whenever the income is below some value. The relationship of this to the "Earned Income Tax Credit" is not obvious. Do note that this is not a special bonus to low income workers, or some other subset of citizens.
I've now read that article, and to me it implies NOTHING about the lives of factory workers prior to, at minimum 1790, and more plausibly 1800. That's plenty of time to kill off a generation of people who used to have a source of income.
Also it talks largely in terms of averages. When the low extreme is 0 already, the mean is highly sensitive to outliers in the higher extreme, and relatively not much affected by an increase in the number of people moving to the lower extreme. Now they COULD have meant median when they said average, but that would be an unusual use of the term. When it's not otherwise defined, average usually means mean. In this kind of curve, however, the median is a much more useful number, and the second most important measure of central tendency is the mode. The mean is a somewhat distant third in importance. (Common phrases of a from that might have helped would have been "an average worker in a garment factory", and other similar forms.)
I realize that the information that I'm requesting is probably not available, but that's the kind of information that is needed to definitively answer this question. Either that or death rate by year by kind of employment, which is also generally not available.