Anybody who would pay $69.00 just so they can get rid of Microsoft on their computer is pretty much clueless. Lets at least try to encourage companies to produce better more price competitive pieces of software rather than supporting every piece of crap that happens to have a price tag on it.
And people wonder why Microsoft isnt going anywhere anytime soon. I mean if a $69.00 is the absolute best Ximian can do when pricing this piece of crap - then they are bound to fail. Thats a third of the cost of windows and more than half of the cost of the Outlook XP upgrade sold seperately.
The fact that this thing requires OWA (Outlook Web Access) to be installed should make you wary as well. Its not even directly connecting using exchange protocols (if that was the case it would work with Exchange 5.5) its simply making a slow ass HTTP connection to the server and parsing the output. What a pathetic hack.
Either way, anybody who buys this deserves to be laughed at. So rest assured I will be putting in my portion on that front. Hahahahahahahahaha...
Finally more than a few of us are starting to get it:-) Open Source != Security and anybody who thinks so doesnt understand the nature of security in general. Open Source by definition is an insecure development methodology based on loose or nonexistant trust relationships which can obviously lead to insecure code.
In the world of security - assumed trust is a mortal sin. In the world of Open Source - it goes without saying. The two concepts obviously do not jive and its nice to see that the security community is finally starting to understand this.
As for this post - none of you will probably ever see this as my karma went straight to hell in a handcart many months ago. Perhaps a few generous moderators could spare a few points though I doubt that will happen since the ProLinux rheotoric will be in a full swing within a few minutes of this posting.
This is a hoax. Microsoft Exchange doesn't send referer information on click thru links within emails. I just tested it out. Either this was a clever hoax or you guys are just that gullible.
Katz - this was the dumbest thing I have ever read.
"Corporatist" companies? I mean duh. What did you expect them to be? Besides who are you or I to judge the actions and a decision of an entirely different culture? To say that Net Access is a "basic human right" is frivalous at best and such a statement should be taken with a large grain of salt.
If they want to block the net fine. The people there can either move or revolt. They have a choice and until they choose to change things - I dont feel the least bit of sympathy for them.
Hey guys - I've been working on this problem for nearly a year. The project is called proxykiller and its located on my site which is located here. Its written in ASP/VB/VbScript - but Im sure it could easily be ported to a non Windows platform. Take a look - its real easy to setup and use and works like a charm!
It wont work. Root.exe by default will not be able to get enough privileges from IIS to do this. I have a script written in ASP that will attempt use the hole to instruct the user to tftp download a few files from my server (every NT/2k box has tftp) and then attempt to restart the box using a vb script and microsofts shutdown.exe.
Wont work boys, at least not outside the test environment. I wish it did though.
Damn right. I was about to respond with the same thing but Im glad somebody finally said it. I went through the EULA text online and found nothing mentioning anything like what infoworld had said.
We've seen the Redmond giant quietly start forcing large OEMs to provide only recovery CDs for Windows
Perhaps thats because MS is sick of getting support calls from people who have no buisness reinstalling their OS (99% of Computer Users worldwide fall into this catergory)
When I installed OfficeXP, it started beating my hard disk with constant access
Truly sad. This is was tends to happen when files are being copied from one medium to the next. The harddrive tends to get accessed. Thats like saying, "I tried coping a 500 meg file from the network and my harddrive light started blinking. Microsoft must be doing something sneaky"
and to do that it starts charging for activation keys based upon your system configuration?
Is this supposed to be an InfoWorld article or a proposed X Files script?
"Imagine the boon Windows product activation promises for Bill's legion of lawyers," another reader wrote. "No more having to wait for the next major release when they want to change the EULA (End-User License Agreement). They can just send out a signal that disables everyone until they reactivate and click through the new terms...
Ummmm... no. They cant change the licensing terms of a signed agreement when it comes to the corporate contracts. DUH. As far as the end user is concerned they bought their product and paid for it - Microsoft cant charge them anymore. The 1984 Orwellian paranoia is really starting to get out of control here. Its obvious infoworld as slashdot cannot be a source for "reliable journalism".
So let's see: Microsoft is trying to control how customers use OEM software, trying to control when customers upgrade its products, trying to control when customers upgrade their hardware, and trying to control what customers say about Microsoft. I think I see a pattern.
I dont see any pattern. I see a company who is attempting to curb the vast amount of piracy that costs them billions of dollars a year. If you people think thats wrong - perhaps you should have your head examined.
No WPA wont stop the hardcore IRC pirate - not when they have the Corporate Edition of XP - but it will stop that casual copier cold. So when your neighbor wants to borrow your XP disc so that he can reinstall - but finds it wont work - he will actually have to pay for the product he chooses to use.
Remember: Just because Linux is free doesnt nessacarily make it right to impose that singular socialistic standard on everything else.
God its ultra liberal bullshit like yours that makes me wonder how this country ever made it this far.
Hey fucktard - Israel performs searches of every passenger that boards a plane - and they provide armed guards on each flight and guess what genius? Thats right - they havent had a hijacking since 1967. SO FUCK OFF.
5000 people are dead. So you and your friend Stallman stop thinking of yourselves and start thinking about when the next 5000 includes your friends, family, or even yourself. What would you have us do then? Sit on it as you and your friends propose now?
And no passengers do not have the right carry firearms on a plane. GET OVER IT. People like you are so caught up with the value of your "civil liberties" that you forgot one thing: It means absolutely nothing if you are DEAD.
Cocksucker - I hope you are one of the first bodybags to come back from the upcoming war - it would be fitting unless you are a draft dodinging SOB.
You obviously arent aware that apple is pulling a 30% profit margin on every machine shipped. Take the time to look at the financials. Michael Dell would give his left nut for margins like that.
XML is a buzzword. A poor one at that. XML is no more compatible and no more universal that the concept of binary data.
XML is not a standard - rather it is the cumulation of marketing hype designed to lure inexperienced web developers into the trap of full buzz compliance (which normally comes with little real experience).
So in essence - when this guy says, "I want the companies data in XML" he may as well be saying that he wants the company's data in one of those newfangled "binary" files.
Can't slashdot do any better than this? The only reason I read anymore is for the trolls. The quality of their postings outweigh the quality of the stories they are attached to. That is a truely sad commentary on the slashdot community.
Turn off Macros in the Office Suite then dimwit. God I am so sick of you/botters saying stupid things that you havent even got a clue about. Are you aware that Star Office lets you write macros on their documents as well?
Perhaps you should look into the facts before spewing all kinds of shit and making yourself look like a moron.
Palm is dying. No this is not a rehash of the BSD is dying troll. Palm has been peddling the same product since day 1. Pocket PC came along and the units they sell currently are slapping the bejesus out of anything that Palm currently has to offer.
Palm got lazy - they stopped innovating. I mean heck - dont tell me they couldnt make a unit that actually recognized handwriting instead of requiring that you use that freaking graffiti crap.
If you want a real handheld unit that can do nearly anything - go with a PocketPC unit. If you are a GPL fanatic who cannot stand buying anything associated with Microsoft - try not to bitch too much when Palm goes belly up and stops supporting your machine. Better yet - get off your ass and install linux on the Ipaq. That should shut you up.
There is simply no reason to buy palm anymore. They have been outdated and outpaced. They are in a desperate stage - hence the acts of desperation (the buying of Be ring a bell?). Anybody who hooks up with them now is making a terrible mistake.
Also - I have to make this a troll somehow since up until this point this has been a fairly calm post. My Karma is already at -10 and I'm itching to see how low I can go. So......
Wah wah wah. Call the Wahbulance. Perhaps when your architecure obtains at least 10% marketshare you will be able to legitimately whine. God help us all if that ever happens though. The moral of the story is "Until then STFU."
The poster obviously realized that Debian PPC was older than the crust on your mothers *bleep*! (Please dont try to tell me aptget is just as good as vagasil)
Im afraid my Karma might go up (-8) so I need to get in my derogatory troll for the day...
Apples PowerPC boxes = CRAP
Linux Mandrake = CRAP
CRAP + CRAP = CRAP
PPC boxes are overpriced. Mandrake is underdeveloped and undertested (try using any version of Mandrake with multiple monitors). Its even worse on the PPC architecture. Has anybody here ever tried linux on PPC? Its a veritable hell I tell you.
In retrospect for the many hours that I pissed away on LinuxPPC let me just say.... "Open Firmware you can eat my ass!"
Yeah its offtopic - but/. is absolute crap right around now. Supposedly there was a database crash yesterday. OH MY GOD HOW CAN MYSQL OR PORTGRESQL CRASH? THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!
Im laughing - oh yeah - laughing real hard. Perhaps Taco should look into purchasing some REAL software instead of having him and his friends write slashcode. Its pretty obvious that slashcode 2.0 (codename fucked) cannot cut it in the real world.
Oh yeah does anybody else know why the Mother Troll himself, Michael, has removed his email addy link from his postings? I suspect the little troll was getting a bit too many flames in his mailbox. What a wimp. At least Taco is willing to take it like a man and respond when you write him an email.
Did I just compliment Taco? Woah - Hell just froze over. Eat your heart out Michael. And mod me down bitches - my karma is already at -6. HOW LOW CAN I GO? (What do you mean slashdot isnt the limbo?)
You sound like one of those poor whiny 56kers man! And no its NOT a level playing field. Its a slow ass version of the real game that 56kers are used to. Thats why I've taking to kicking 56kers from all online games I host.
The lack of speed in some multiplayer games online have NOTHING to do with speed when you are a broadband user. Its because of the 56ker punks and the poor networking code of the game we are playing.
Thats why I like games like Quake 3 - because afterall at least the 56kers are GETTING WHAT THEY DERSERVE IN THAT SITUATION.
You all will say the same thing too as soon as you have to played an online game against a 56ker.
Try Emperor - Battle for Dune. I HATE playing that game against 56kers as it runs at the speed of the SLOWEST connection. I mean I hate the fact that the 56kers are actually given an advantage because they either live in the boonies or are too cheap to get broadband. I paid my money - I should get my performance. I am of the opinion that they should be BANNED from such online activites until they can get their performance up to par.
As far as bandwidth discrimination in general is concerned - I say GET OVER IT. The net is heading into the future - if your 4 year old 56k connection cannot do that same then thats your problem.
BTW - this seems like a dumb place to post this article considering most of us probably do have access to high bandwidth net connections. Did you actually expect much sympathy from us? Sorry we are all booked up on crazy here - try the next house.
Offtopic? How is that? Its obvious that Michael is trolling. Slashdot does not provide a forum allowing members to discuss issues of obvious editor incompetence. If they have please direct me to the appropriate section.
Otherwise can it. With a name like Trollificus you have LITTLE room to talk.
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Anybody who would pay $69.00 just so they can get rid of Microsoft on their computer is pretty much clueless. Lets at least try to encourage companies to produce better more price competitive pieces of software rather than supporting every piece of crap that happens to have a price tag on it.
And people wonder why Microsoft isnt going anywhere anytime soon. I mean if a $69.00 is the absolute best Ximian can do when pricing this piece of crap - then they are bound to fail. Thats a third of the cost of windows and more than half of the cost of the Outlook XP upgrade sold seperately.
The fact that this thing requires OWA (Outlook Web Access) to be installed should make you wary as well. Its not even directly connecting using exchange protocols (if that was the case it would work with Exchange 5.5) its simply making a slow ass HTTP connection to the server and parsing the output. What a pathetic hack.
Either way, anybody who buys this deserves to be laughed at. So rest assured I will be putting in my portion on that front. Hahahahahahahahaha...
J
wake up - AMD sucks. If the hacks writing code on Linux cannot get it working correctly... then you really are SOL.
J
Finally more than a few of us are starting to get it :-) Open Source != Security and anybody who thinks so doesnt understand the nature of security in general. Open Source by definition is an insecure development methodology based on loose or nonexistant trust relationships which can obviously lead to insecure code.
In the world of security - assumed trust is a mortal sin. In the world of Open Source - it goes without saying. The two concepts obviously do not jive and its nice to see that the security community is finally starting to understand this.
As for this post - none of you will probably ever see this as my karma went straight to hell in a handcart many months ago. Perhaps a few generous moderators could spare a few points though I doubt that will happen since the ProLinux rheotoric will be in a full swing within a few minutes of this posting.
Gam
Thats not actually the case - see my earlier comment. You guys are gullible to believe that is the case however...
Gam
This is a hoax. Microsoft Exchange doesn't send referer information on click thru links within emails. I just tested it out. Either this was a clever hoax or you guys are just that gullible.
Take your pick - I perfer the later.
J
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"Mod me down Please"
Katz - this was the dumbest thing I have ever read.
"Corporatist" companies? I mean duh. What did you expect them to be? Besides who are you or I to judge the actions and a decision of an entirely different culture? To say that Net Access is a "basic human right" is frivalous at best and such a statement should be taken with a large grain of salt.
If they want to block the net fine. The people there can either move or revolt. They have a choice and until they choose to change things - I dont feel the least bit of sympathy for them.
Gam
Hey guys - I've been working on this problem for nearly a year. The project is called proxykiller and its located on my site which is located here. Its written in ASP/VB/VbScript - but Im sure it could easily be ported to a non Windows platform. Take a look - its real easy to setup and use and works like a charm!
Gam
It wont work. Root.exe by default will not be able to get enough privileges from IIS to do this. I have a script written in ASP that will attempt use the hole to instruct the user to tftp download a few files from my server (every NT/2k box has tftp) and then attempt to restart the box using a vb script and microsofts shutdown.exe.
Wont work boys, at least not outside the test environment. I wish it did though.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Damn right. I was about to respond with the same thing but Im glad somebody finally said it. I went through the EULA text online and found nothing mentioning anything like what infoworld had said.
/. are sister publications?
Perhaps Infoworld and
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Perhaps thats because MS is sick of getting support calls from people who have no buisness reinstalling their OS (99% of Computer Users worldwide fall into this catergory)
Truly sad. This is was tends to happen when files are being copied from one medium to the next. The harddrive tends to get accessed. Thats like saying, "I tried coping a 500 meg file from the network and my harddrive light started blinking. Microsoft must be doing something sneaky"
Is this supposed to be an InfoWorld article or a proposed X Files script?
Ummmm... no. They cant change the licensing terms of a signed agreement when it comes to the corporate contracts. DUH. As far as the end user is concerned they bought their product and paid for it - Microsoft cant charge them anymore. The 1984 Orwellian paranoia is really starting to get out of control here. Its obvious infoworld as slashdot cannot be a source for "reliable journalism".
I dont see any pattern. I see a company who is attempting to curb the vast amount of piracy that costs them billions of dollars a year. If you people think thats wrong - perhaps you should have your head examined.
No WPA wont stop the hardcore IRC pirate - not when they have the Corporate Edition of XP - but it will stop that casual copier cold. So when your neighbor wants to borrow your XP disc so that he can reinstall - but finds it wont work - he will actually have to pay for the product he chooses to use.
Remember: Just because Linux is free doesnt nessacarily make it right to impose that singular socialistic standard on everything else.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
One word: Cocksucker. No wait make that three words:
Cocksucking Mother Fucker.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
God its ultra liberal bullshit like yours that makes me wonder how this country ever made it this far.
Hey fucktard - Israel performs searches of every passenger that boards a plane - and they provide armed guards on each flight and guess what genius? Thats right - they havent had a hijacking since 1967. SO FUCK OFF.
5000 people are dead. So you and your friend Stallman stop thinking of yourselves and start thinking about when the next 5000 includes your friends, family, or even yourself. What would you have us do then? Sit on it as you and your friends propose now?
And no passengers do not have the right carry firearms on a plane. GET OVER IT. People like you are so caught up with the value of your "civil liberties" that you forgot one thing: It means absolutely nothing if you are DEAD.
Cocksucker - I hope you are one of the first bodybags to come back from the upcoming war - it would be fitting unless you are a draft dodinging SOB.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
You obviously arent aware that apple is pulling a 30% profit margin on every machine shipped. Take the time to look at the financials. Michael Dell would give his left nut for margins like that.
Apple is ripping people off - PERIOD.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
XML is a buzzword. A poor one at that. XML is no more compatible and no more universal that the concept of binary data.
XML is not a standard - rather it is the cumulation of marketing hype designed to lure inexperienced web developers into the trap of full buzz compliance (which normally comes with little real experience).
So in essence - when this guy says, "I want the companies data in XML" he may as well be saying that he wants the company's data in one of those newfangled "binary" files.
Can't slashdot do any better than this? The only reason I read anymore is for the trolls. The quality of their postings outweigh the quality of the stories they are attached to. That is a truely sad commentary on the slashdot community.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Turn off Macros in the Office Suite then dimwit. God I am so sick of you /botters saying stupid things that you havent even got a clue about. Are you aware that Star Office lets you write macros on their documents as well?
Perhaps you should look into the facts before spewing all kinds of shit and making yourself look like a moron.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Palm is dying. No this is not a rehash of the BSD is dying troll. Palm has been peddling the same product since day 1. Pocket PC came along and the units they sell currently are slapping the bejesus out of anything that Palm currently has to offer.
Palm got lazy - they stopped innovating. I mean heck - dont tell me they couldnt make a unit that actually recognized handwriting instead of requiring that you use that freaking graffiti crap.
If you want a real handheld unit that can do nearly anything - go with a PocketPC unit. If you are a GPL fanatic who cannot stand buying anything associated with Microsoft - try not to bitch too much when Palm goes belly up and stops supporting your machine. Better yet - get off your ass and install linux on the Ipaq. That should shut you up.
There is simply no reason to buy palm anymore. They have been outdated and outpaced. They are in a desperate stage - hence the acts of desperation (the buying of Be ring a bell?). Anybody who hooks up with them now is making a terrible mistake.
Also - I have to make this a troll somehow since up until this point this has been a fairly calm post. My Karma is already at -10 and I'm itching to see how low I can go. So......
Fuck Linux - Screw Macintosh - Eat my Ass Plam.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Wah wah wah. Call the Wahbulance. Perhaps when your architecure obtains at least 10% marketshare you will be able to legitimately whine. God help us all if that ever happens though. The moral of the story is "Until then STFU."
Gam
"Flame at Will"
The poster obviously realized that Debian PPC was older than the crust on your mothers *bleep*! (Please dont try to tell me aptget is just as good as vagasil)
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Im afraid my Karma might go up (-8) so I need to get in my derogatory troll for the day...
Apples PowerPC boxes = CRAP
Linux Mandrake = CRAP
CRAP + CRAP = CRAP
PPC boxes are overpriced. Mandrake is underdeveloped and undertested (try using any version of Mandrake with multiple monitors). Its even worse on the PPC architecture. Has anybody here ever tried linux on PPC? Its a veritable hell I tell you.
In retrospect for the many hours that I pissed away on LinuxPPC let me just say.... "Open Firmware you can eat my ass!"
Gam
"Flame at Will"
(2) Sweet! Man and I thought my troll was good - you have put me to shame sir. I salute you. :-)
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Sweet! Man and I thought my troll was good - you have put me to shame sir. I salute you. :-)
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Yeah its offtopic - but /. is absolute crap right around now. Supposedly there was a database crash yesterday. OH MY GOD HOW CAN MYSQL OR PORTGRESQL CRASH? THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE!!!
Im laughing - oh yeah - laughing real hard. Perhaps Taco should look into purchasing some REAL software instead of having him and his friends write slashcode. Its pretty obvious that slashcode 2.0 (codename fucked) cannot cut it in the real world.
Oh yeah does anybody else know why the Mother Troll himself, Michael, has removed his email addy link from his postings? I suspect the little troll was getting a bit too many flames in his mailbox. What a wimp. At least Taco is willing to take it like a man and respond when you write him an email.
Did I just compliment Taco? Woah - Hell just froze over. Eat your heart out Michael. And mod me down bitches - my karma is already at -6. HOW LOW CAN I GO? (What do you mean slashdot isnt the limbo?)
Gam
"Flame at will"
You sound like one of those poor whiny 56kers man! And no its NOT a level playing field. Its a slow ass version of the real game that 56kers are used to. Thats why I've taking to kicking 56kers from all online games I host.
The lack of speed in some multiplayer games online have NOTHING to do with speed when you are a broadband user. Its because of the 56ker punks and the poor networking code of the game we are playing.
Thats why I like games like Quake 3 - because afterall at least the 56kers are GETTING WHAT THEY DERSERVE IN THAT SITUATION.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
You all will say the same thing too as soon as you have to played an online game against a 56ker.
Try Emperor - Battle for Dune. I HATE playing that game against 56kers as it runs at the speed of the SLOWEST connection. I mean I hate the fact that the 56kers are actually given an advantage because they either live in the boonies or are too cheap to get broadband. I paid my money - I should get my performance. I am of the opinion that they should be BANNED from such online activites until they can get their performance up to par.
As far as bandwidth discrimination in general is concerned - I say GET OVER IT. The net is heading into the future - if your 4 year old 56k connection cannot do that same then thats your problem.
BTW - this seems like a dumb place to post this article considering most of us probably do have access to high bandwidth net connections. Did you actually expect much sympathy from us? Sorry we are all booked up on crazy here - try the next house.
Gam
"Flame at Will"
Offtopic? How is that? Its obvious that Michael is trolling. Slashdot does not provide a forum allowing members to discuss issues of obvious editor incompetence. If they have please direct me to the appropriate section.
Otherwise can it. With a name like Trollificus you have LITTLE room to talk.
Gam
"Flame at Will"