I know someone who bought one of those. It was a P2/450, an IBM with an LPX mobo. It wasn't really a bad computer at all; IMHO he only overpaid to the tune of $100 for it. It did need a new CD-ROM, though.
My real question is this: we are up to UltraATA 133 now, if you're willing (and/or crazy) enough to pay the price. This is too fast for all but the highest-performance flash memory devices; most hard drives don't need and can't use any more than ATA/133. We've had FireWire for a very long time now (five years, anyway), and it never got any serious play until a couple of years ago; we have USB 2.0 now, and those two standards will be leapfrogging each other for some time to come.
Why not just rewrite the BIOS code to create an abstraction layer between ATA and FireWire? (Granted I don't know much about BIOS writing...)
Actually, I think the NT architecture is even weirder than that. As far as I can remember from what I've heard, NT is indeed microkernel-based (can't remember if the proper name for the original mk was Mica or Prism; I've heard both names), but they've blown so many holes in the design over the years (particularly where NT 4 moved GDI into user space) that it may as well be monolithic. (Funniest damn thing; NT was designed to be portable originally, but I seriously doubt they could go back and put XP on all the hardware NT was originally designed for; I think even WinCE was rebuilt from the ground up, wasn't it?)
And you've got OS X inside out; you're essentially correct, but the userland is specifically FreeBSD, and "some NeXTSTEP userland things" is way off the mark. OS X is NeXTSTEP/PPC with Mac compatibility and a nice coat of Bondi Blue paint.
You know, I'm just about ready to start on EGIII (Elder God III) -- isn't that the one with the snaps and the thing with the big squid head comes out, then has everybody crammed into a small New England town with the help of tax auditors and shrinks and eats everybody?
The next step of course is to move the controller off the motherboard yada yada yada...
My point being that you're not gaining anything except another iteration through the loop that led to the invention of ATA and SCSI hard drives in the first place. They did it with graphics cards as well, moving graphics capability into the local bus with VESA. When VLB flamed out because they couldn't quite get it working with fast 486s and Pentia it was scrapped in favor of PCI. PCI wasn't *quite* fast enough so they moved it closer to the processor bus again with AGP. Figure on at least one generation of bypassing AGP for integrated graphics in the northbridge and feeding full-speed off the processor or memory bus before they come up with something else... hey, could happen...
My point being that you'd have to go even thinner than that to pull it off. IBM surely has the beginnings of the technology with the MicroDrives; all they need to do is find an effective way to scale up the area without increasing the thickness of the drive. And, like I said, make it into an SMD so it doesn't go flopping around. While they're at it, why don't they stick it in a drive bay to free up a slot:-)
That's not true. The PII did have SDRAM support just fine in the 440FX IIRC, and in any case the 440LX wasn't far behind it. I think the main problem is that SDRAM was way pricey at the time and the mobo builders didn't use it. Certainly wasn't Intel's fault.
Well, *yeah*, but the thing is that it's the chinese ISPs that are vectoring it because the US ISPs know better than to get caught vectoring spam themselves...
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I'm surprised -- I did a little gutter surfing (i.e. surfing at -1) and found little or no identifiable CoS astroturfing in this thread... it's quiet, too quiet...
No, that's not a particularly accurate way of looking at it at all. Al Qaeda is a cult, I don't think that can really be disputed, but L. Ron Hubbard was more like a theological robber baron: grabbed what he wanted, bought off or crushed anyone in his way. Osama Bin Laden is nothing more or less than a real-life Cobra Commander.
Nicole is out, from what I understand, and given the harshness of the divorce I wouldn't be surprised if she had her very own SP order. She claims her religious beliefs are a mixture of CoS and Catholic (and one or two other influences I can't remember).
Well... John Travolta is pretty much persona non grata these days with moviegoers since Battlefield: Earth and Swordfish, and I don't care what kind of delusional good reviews Vanilla Sky got, but Tom Cruise is becoming the new Kevin Costner.
Actually, the most annoying Scientologist in the entertainment industry right now has to be Leah Remini; she's a very talented comedienne, but she comes across as being something of a self-righteous bitch in interviews. (Of course she's something different again on the set, but that's a different story.)
Anti-Scientology folks (as well as a few others; I believe the term is used among anti-JW activists as well) have a term, invented by non-member believers (or squirrels, as the Co$ calls them), called the Free Zone. Those are people who still believe what they believe even though they're no longer affiliated with the church.
Yes, you're free to believe what you wish; that's what the freezoners are about, and nobody has the right to take their beliefs away from them. The objection is to the organization. (Granted, the belief system *is* a crock, but you can't take that away...)
Hardcards? The only way that could work is if the disks were so thin they could be used surface-mount; there's a reason they stopped using them (structural integrity and vibration being the big ones).
That is one thing I've been curious about: why bother with sATA in the first place, when we have both USB 2.0 (okay, relatively new) and Firewire (not new, and faster than any ATA out there so far)?
Actually, I'm not too sure you can do the drive clone thing with XP; I'm led to understand it was pretty much standard practice in the past, but apparently cloning drives is somewhat messier than necessary with XP.
But you raise a very good point about marketing...
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What I find hilarious about tax protestors is that they keep fighting even though pretty much every one of their arguments have been declared de jure bullshit (not just de facto). This kid does remind me of them.
I have to say I like McCoy as a character myself. As a lawyer... I think they've made him into the sort of DA that people would despise if he was a criminal lawyer, and I'm not sure an episode where he gets spanked for prosecutorial misconduct isn't overdue.
It's a great show, though; bring back Carey Lowell whimper whimper...
Linux is a pain in the ass to preinstall. Someone else was complaining how they do a kitchen-sink install for RedHat... well, yes, it's excessive. The problem is that there is no simple way to do a "bam, it's installed" preload of RedHat without throwing everything in. There's so much material in the average commercial Linux distro that it's tough to say what should be in and what should be out.
It's not bloat, exactly; it's more like being musclebound...
Sell it at a flea market with a copy of the OEM sticker. You're not using it, and anyone who's buying it at a flea market probably doesn't much care that it's not-quite-legal (at least in Microsoft's eyes), and will probably know how to get around WPA to boot...
I had this sort of problem at my local public library (I've moved since, and the library in my new residence is much cooler): I was downloading from Windows and needed to bring files home to a Mac. This was not a big deal, you'd think, but their was some oddity in their Netscape configuration that was smashing.hqx files and making them unreadable. I got into a very nasty and very public argument with the tech librarian over something that should have been fairly simple to fix.
"We don't support macs..." Yeah, well, you do support *customers*, ya stupid bitch...
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I know someone who bought one of those. It was a P2/450, an IBM with an LPX mobo. It wasn't really a bad computer at all; IMHO he only overpaid to the tune of $100 for it. It did need a new CD-ROM, though.
/Brian
My real question is this: we are up to UltraATA 133 now, if you're willing (and/or crazy) enough to pay the price. This is too fast for all but the highest-performance flash memory devices; most hard drives don't need and can't use any more than ATA/133. We've had FireWire for a very long time now (five years, anyway), and it never got any serious play until a couple of years ago; we have USB 2.0 now, and those two standards will be leapfrogging each other for some time to come.
Why not just rewrite the BIOS code to create an abstraction layer between ATA and FireWire? (Granted I don't know much about BIOS writing...)
/Brian
Actually, I think the NT architecture is even weirder than that. As far as I can remember from what I've heard, NT is indeed microkernel-based (can't remember if the proper name for the original mk was Mica or Prism; I've heard both names), but they've blown so many holes in the design over the years (particularly where NT 4 moved GDI into user space) that it may as well be monolithic. (Funniest damn thing; NT was designed to be portable originally, but I seriously doubt they could go back and put XP on all the hardware NT was originally designed for; I think even WinCE was rebuilt from the ground up, wasn't it?)
And you've got OS X inside out; you're essentially correct, but the userland is specifically FreeBSD, and "some NeXTSTEP userland things" is way off the mark. OS X is NeXTSTEP/PPC with Mac compatibility and a nice coat of Bondi Blue paint.
/Brian
You know, I'm just about ready to start on EGIII (Elder God III) -- isn't that the one with the snaps and the thing with the big squid head comes out, then has everybody crammed into a small New England town with the help of tax auditors and shrinks and eats everybody?
/Brian
The next step of course is to move the controller off the motherboard yada yada yada...
My point being that you're not gaining anything except another iteration through the loop that led to the invention of ATA and SCSI hard drives in the first place. They did it with graphics cards as well, moving graphics capability into the local bus with VESA. When VLB flamed out because they couldn't quite get it working with fast 486s and Pentia it was scrapped in favor of PCI. PCI wasn't *quite* fast enough so they moved it closer to the processor bus again with AGP. Figure on at least one generation of bypassing AGP for integrated graphics in the northbridge and feeding full-speed off the processor or memory bus before they come up with something else... hey, could happen...
/Brian
My point being that you'd have to go even thinner than that to pull it off. IBM surely has the beginnings of the technology with the MicroDrives; all they need to do is find an effective way to scale up the area without increasing the thickness of the drive. And, like I said, make it into an SMD so it doesn't go flopping around. While they're at it, why don't they stick it in a drive bay to free up a slot :-)
/Brian
That's not true. The PII did have SDRAM support just fine in the 440FX IIRC, and in any case the 440LX wasn't far behind it. I think the main problem is that SDRAM was way pricey at the time and the mobo builders didn't use it. Certainly wasn't Intel's fault.
/Brian
Well, *yeah*, but the thing is that it's the chinese ISPs that are vectoring it because the US ISPs know better than to get caught vectoring spam themselves...
/Brian
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So what's the next step? Strongarming China? Can we do that?
/Brian
I'm surprised -- I did a little gutter surfing (i.e. surfing at -1) and found little or no identifiable CoS astroturfing in this thread... it's quiet, too quiet...
/Brian
No, that's not a particularly accurate way of looking at it at all. Al Qaeda is a cult, I don't think that can really be disputed, but L. Ron Hubbard was more like a theological robber baron: grabbed what he wanted, bought off or crushed anyone in his way. Osama Bin Laden is nothing more or less than a real-life Cobra Commander.
/Brian
Nicole is out, from what I understand, and given the harshness of the divorce I wouldn't be surprised if she had her very own SP order. She claims her religious beliefs are a mixture of CoS and Catholic (and one or two other influences I can't remember).
/Brian
Well... John Travolta is pretty much persona non grata these days with moviegoers since Battlefield: Earth and Swordfish, and I don't care what kind of delusional good reviews Vanilla Sky got, but Tom Cruise is becoming the new Kevin Costner.
Actually, the most annoying Scientologist in the entertainment industry right now has to be Leah Remini; she's a very talented comedienne, but she comes across as being something of a self-righteous bitch in interviews. (Of course she's something different again on the set, but that's a different story.)
/Brian
Anti-Scientology folks (as well as a few others; I believe the term is used among anti-JW activists as well) have a term, invented by non-member believers (or squirrels, as the Co$ calls them), called the Free Zone. Those are people who still believe what they believe even though they're no longer affiliated with the church.
Yes, you're free to believe what you wish; that's what the freezoners are about, and nobody has the right to take their beliefs away from them. The objection is to the organization. (Granted, the belief system *is* a crock, but you can't take that away...)
/Brian
Hardcards? The only way that could work is if the disks were so thin they could be used surface-mount; there's a reason they stopped using them (structural integrity and vibration being the big ones).
/Brian
That is one thing I've been curious about: why bother with sATA in the first place, when we have both USB 2.0 (okay, relatively new) and Firewire (not new, and faster than any ATA out there so far)?
/Brian
Actually, I'm not too sure you can do the drive clone thing with XP; I'm led to understand it was pretty much standard practice in the past, but apparently cloning drives is somewhat messier than necessary with XP.
But you raise a very good point about marketing...
/Brian
hmm... new word...
jermoe, n. 1. idiot savant cracker who gets caught. 2. Anyone who sincerely believes that personal pride or level of expertise gets them off the hook for misdeeds. [Before the trial, Bill was a very rich man. Now he's a very rich jermoe who needs to find even more sophisticated ways of screwing people over to survive.]
/Brian
What I find hilarious about tax protestors is that they keep fighting even though pretty much every one of their arguments have been declared de jure bullshit (not just de facto). This kid does remind me of them.
/Brian
I have to say I like McCoy as a character myself. As a lawyer... I think they've made him into the sort of DA that people would despise if he was a criminal lawyer, and I'm not sure an episode where he gets spanked for prosecutorial misconduct isn't overdue.
It's a great show, though; bring back Carey Lowell whimper whimper...
/Brian
Who would join? This kid must be setting some kind of record for stupidity...
/Brian
Linux is a pain in the ass to preinstall. Someone else was complaining how they do a kitchen-sink install for RedHat... well, yes, it's excessive. The problem is that there is no simple way to do a "bam, it's installed" preload of RedHat without throwing everything in. There's so much material in the average commercial Linux distro that it's tough to say what should be in and what should be out.
It's not bloat, exactly; it's more like being musclebound...
/brian
Sell it at a flea market with a copy of the OEM sticker. You're not using it, and anyone who's buying it at a flea market probably doesn't much care that it's not-quite-legal (at least in Microsoft's eyes), and will probably know how to get around WPA to boot...
/Brian
I had this sort of problem at my local public library (I've moved since, and the library in my new residence is much cooler): I was downloading from Windows and needed to bring files home to a Mac. This was not a big deal, you'd think, but their was some oddity in their Netscape configuration that was smashing .hqx files and making them unreadable. I got into a very nasty and very public argument with the tech librarian over something that should have been fairly simple to fix.
"We don't support macs..." Yeah, well, you do support *customers*, ya stupid bitch...
/brian