Athlon XP @ 1826/166fsb is the first computer I have ever owned (including a 733 G4/512k) that can scroll through a PDF with no draw in lag. None. It looks just like scrolling through a simpletext document. You can actually read the PDF without printing it. If speed isn't an issue, why does apple release faster models? Migrateing to commodity PC hardware is like breathing easy after years of suffocation: I didn't even know I was suffocating. Apple coddles users into thinking thay have a high performance machine the way VW coddles new beetle owners. It's fast and sporty and shiny and glossy and will get it's doors blown off by the first old rx-7 that crosses it's path. What is wrong with a cray? Why do you think I water cool? Just surfing? Hardly. I can actually rip a DVD to mpeg4 in real time. Apple cannot even play the divx codec.
I'm not a PC fanboy. I work with Apples for a living. I respect them as far as user experience goes but never will I make the mistake of assuming that an Apple has any speed at all. Quadra 650? Put netBSD on that thing. you might learn what memory management and multitasking are. I'm sure you put a lot of love into some old macs but it is time to move out of the world of education and into a real machine. The world loves an underdog but they are beaten -- often
400 Megabyts/second exeeds the speed of Apple's PCI bus 33mhz/32bits wide @ 133 Megabytes per second. The bottleneck transfers to the ageing PCI bus. When the PCI bus saturates, the CPU must imediately stop whatever it was doing to wait for the PCI bus to transfer to memory. Like putting 50 series slicks on a yugo, you are still not going anywhere fast but you just killed your ride quality
Apple: "All these machines include FireWire ports that operate at up to 400 megabits per second"
my accent
Firewire has 50 Megabytes per second.
ATA 66 has 66 Megabytes per second. ATA 133 has 133 Megabytes per second. SCSI 160 has 160 Megabytes per second. USB 2.0 has 60 Megabytes per second.
firewire drives will not save apple, they are slow too.
Current ATA drives peak at full ATA spec due to their huge caches. Their throughput on an ATA 100 bus is just under 50 megabytes per second meaning current drives outperform the firewire spec.
Can't exactly daisy chain firewire devices when ONE uses the spec's entire bandwidth.
So much for Apple being the DV platform of choice.
Time for apple users to pull their heads out of the sand. This may seem like a flame but it is not. I worked on or have had over 260 Macs. No Kidding. Apple has a great OS that falls down in strange places while being great in others. Same with Windows and the *nixs.
But their latest hardware, frankly, is trash.
The 1 Ghz G4 is the first processor to be faster than the 733 G4 w/512k cache introduced over two years ago. While PC hardware has doubled in performance, Apple hardware has been stagnant for two years.
Apple used to use the fastest Drive interface spec available at the time: SCSI. Now they use A drive spec less than 1/3 the speed of the fastest drive spec. Again two years of stagnation.
Apple's PCI bus maxes out at 133Mb/s compared to 533Mb/s available on PC. Again two years of stagnation.
Apple uses PC133 SDRAM at 300Mb/s compared to 1000Mb/s For DDR SDRAM or 1400Mb/s for single channel RDRAM or 2800Mb/s for dual channel RDRAM. Two years of stagnation.
Apple has stereo sound. PC has Dolby 5.1 in almost any new machine. Two years.
I've heard all the "user experience" arguments. Apples user experience is slow and anyone that says otherwise has no frame of reference outside of apple land.
Sorry, I have switched. Apple spent millions on product look and feel when they should have spent millions on hardware engineers. The good old days of paying a premium price for a premium product are long gone. Now we pay a premium price for a sub-standard product that looks fast.
The sad part is, really take a good look at the new imac. It's ugly. It no longer reminds me of a cute VW beetle. It now reminds me of desk lamp. A gray desk lamp. A gray dim desk lamp. A gray dim desk lamp that has firmware issues and is now three weeks late shipping it's first units. A gray dim desk lamp that has firmware issues, is now three weeks late shipping it's first units and has severe overheating issues when running the cd for long enough to install the OS let alone get through an entire DVD movie.
Did you notice that the Imac that Jobs displayed was not on? Shouldn't it have been on? Doesn't the damn thing turn on?
Show me one instance of the iMac being used by a person where you can see activity on the screen while the person is sitting there. Anytime there is activity on the screen they cut away to an imac sitting in a white room with no one operating it AND WITHOUT A KEYBOARD. vaporware.
G4 dual 1000, yes it has DDR memory but at a 5000 fully outfitted price point. Dual p4 2.2 Ghz xeons are not much better on price. Dual AthlonMP are half the cost. Dual Alphas are 4 times the speed same cost. (Alpha included to knock some sense into the Bioinformatics number crunchers).
And all this while the OS asks more from the hardware than ever before. Cold hard truth.
I know this is a stomach punch for apple lovers but if we don't make apple take another path, they will continue to sell us glossy crap for premium price.
"Raising the structure decreases entropy, its decline and fall increases entropy. Over the whole system, however, these are only local increases and decreases; the level of energy (the entropy level) throughout the whole system is both constant and very, very low. Therefore, it is common to speak of entropy, of an increase in entropy, as the running down of the universe."
But:
Information is not energy. Information is not matter. Information however is viral and will gather order to it. At he end of time the universe will suffer heat death. But it will contain a single bit of data. The universe will be less than 1 degree kelvin, but it will be something, not nothing, 1 not 0
If Quantum computing is possible, as opposed to quantum storage of encryption keys, like you referred to, then we will have much more power available to us than simple encryption.
If we could pass a single bit of data through a quantum wormhole, we could use the bit as a frame of reference to synchronize two clocks at different altitudes. We could then directly measure gravity waves because of the effect gravity has on time. But since no one has actually been able to pass observable data faster than the speed of light, we have not been able to unify Relativity with Quantum Mechanics.
We've passed data faster then the speed of light across far enough distances to make gravity waves' effect on time a measurable effect using cesium beam clocks but we are not allowed to look at the data bit until relativity tells us we can otherwise we break causality - we would witness the effect of the data bit before we had generated it.
This is so far off-topic from analog robots that some would consider negative moderation. Hopefully today's moderators will see the value of this discussion and not relegate it to the pits of trolldom. Hell, this is nerdy and it matters and it is the natural flow of discussion from the subject.
an analog computer accurate to three decimal places would reduce a 128 bit encryption key into a key aprroximately 55 bits long, a substantially easier task for a conventional computer.
Information on a computer does not need to be stored as a physical object. I am beating my head into the observer changing the observed object when I think of how perfect values of pi could be stored on an analog computer but that problem has nothing to do with perfect physical objects, which according to Plato are impossible. In other words, you have just restated a 2500-year-old argument that does not apply here. Information does not follow the laws of physics. That is why the information carried by our DNA is allowed to get more complex with time instead of the opposite, as entropy would dictate.
The problem of the value of pi being changed because of its use in computation (being observed by other parts of the machine) could be solved by skewing the value initially to allow for the change that would occur by checking it again.
As brilliant as Descartes was in applying graphing to geometry, he pigeon holed us into always assuming that shapes implying numbers, which on close examination is a ludicrous assumption. Shapes can expressed as numbers but that does not mean shapes are numbers.
Binary computing has served the purpose of giving birth to the computer age but I feel we are missing something by not exploring other avenues such as analog computing. While there are plenty of capable D/A algorithms, nature does not have to resort to such stop-gap solutions. All of natures processing occurs in analog form, which me might be wise to pursue.
To quote Lee A Rubel:
"The future of analog computing is unlimited. As a visionary, I see it eventually displacing digital computing, especially, in the beginning, in partial differential equations and as a model in neurobiology. It will take some decades for this to be done. In the meantime, it is a very rich and challenging field of investigation, although (or maybe because) it is not in the current fashion.
Sincerely yours, LEE A. RUBEL"
Jonathan W. Mills, a professor at Indiana University has an open request for graduate student's to assist in developing analog computers
Hava Siegelmann at the Technion Institute of Technology, claims in her thesis that some computational problems can only be solved by analog neural networks. Since neural networks are essentially analog computers, the work suggests, on a theoretical level, that analog operations are inherently more powerful than digital.
The most compelling example I can personally think of is that analog computers would allow you to work with perfect values of pi.
Interesting applications include strong cryptography/cryptanalysis. Where an analog crypto key would be uncrackable since it could hold a value such as pi or root 2, obviously incalculable numbers. On the cryptanalysis side, an analog computer would allow you to guess very closely the factors of large primes before turning that data over to A digital computer to brute force the solution from a very small range of possible values.
I love it that everyone here had the same reaction I did. I was shocked and my rescue/hero/hardwarehacker jumped out. We all were agahst that such a fine piece of hardware might go to waste. I have a cluster of p90 through p233's just because I hate to see good old hardware go to waste.
It has a life, It has a conscienceness, damn you! let the rabbits wear glasses. Save our brothers! ~ Tool
What has more relavance? Who purchased their way on to who's list? Who's searching technique was exploited to earn higher marks?
Oh no! When I think about all the crap I learned in High School, it's a wonder I can think at all. Although my life of education never hurt me none, I can read the writing on the wall.
God forbid anyone makes you use the processor between your ears to filter information instead of spoon feeding processed pasturized iradiated crap into your hamburger mind.
Can't do a propper search? You don't even need to be on the internet. It is in fact dangerous for you to be here. You are probably the type of person that responds to spam mail.
In other words, Google is a good company but they need to earn money too. Otherwise they will be weak and get purchase by Microsoft or AOL just like every good online service.
Remember when hotmail was run on Linux? Remember when ICQ passed its first million users? Remember when Hitbox, Realplayer and Gozilla! didn't track the crap out of you?
Let Goggle Be Google and spend your time worrying about The DMCA, Microsoft's Monopoly and the kernal forking
The enermax EG651P-VE FMA has one 9 cm fan intake heat and one 8 cm fan exhaust heat with a rheostat included produces 500w/650peak with the fans at full. Turn the fans down to silent and it still performs at 300w. The heat sinks are massive, Representing 60% of the unit's weight. The unit is rated for 650 because of it's quality components and high heat tolerance. Combined with extreme passive cooling capacity, This allows for silent operation if you do not need the unit's full capacity. The Performa 630 used a 45 watt power supply. Not ATX and not enough power. The cube used an external power supply. The Imac has a decent power supply but you have to by all that glossy plastic and tiny monitor that goes with it.
"As far as the noise level is concerned, the new Koolance system is not quite as inconspicuous as the old one. At medium heat levels in the processor core, the three fans can produce quite a racket."
Also, It's a mid tower not a micro atx as pictured here (This is the propper link)
Get an ABIT NV7M micro atx Nforce chipset motherboard. Softmenu III allows you to underclock and undervolt your processor. Buy the XP1800 (good value for quiet & fast). I have an old Swiftech MC462 that can cool my XP1800 to sub-40c when I reduce the multiplier to 7.5 and voltage to 1.65 without a fan. I put a paper tube around the top of the heatsink to take advantage of the chimney effect. Remember, air MUST move but you can let the chimney effect do it for you. Nforce allows tiny design because no pci cards are required for a full fetured system. Slow hardrive @ 5400rpm or 40 Gb IBM 2.5 inch laptop drive willl be coolest. 36x max cd or 4-8x dvd for reduced noise/heat. Sorbothane shockmount everything. Get a vastly over rated powersupply 460w and throttle the fan down with a rheostat. The power supply will never be working at full load so you can safely reduce the fan rpm. Should be nearly silent, 800 to 1000mhz depending on how cool your processor is and cost less than 600 bucks. Oh, don't use paper for your chimney, that was just for test purposes.
We wil still be hearing about that same piece of flawed glass orbiting the earth taking better and better pictures with cameras that have been replace 10 times. Not that this would be a bad thing. All the Telescopes built on Kitt Peak are still in service in one form or another. The state of the art at the time.9m scope is now used by students while the new 4m scope is used by professionals. The expensive and heavy part being the glass, We will keep it in orbit and wrap new instruments around it until it gets hit by something big, like a bolt from Apollo 13.
CalREN-2 consists of two giant loops - called CalREN North serving UC berkley and CalREN South (in the Los Angeles area). Each loop is a gigaPOP - providing the high-speed connection into the nationwide Internet. Each loop provides OC-48 (2,448 Mbp/s) connections to member campuses.
Now, since this equipment has been in place since the middle of last summer, Why are they using their dual 45Mb/s connection? Just get some cable dogs out there to run some fiber. Hell, I'll get out there and run some fiber for them. Remember when some yahoo's cut their fiber while stealing copper to recycle? They were down for like two weeks. Well, it took them two weeks to run fiber across the campus again. If they get started now, they could have as much bandwidth as they could possible want by running fiber to their Internet 2 pop.
I have seen the I2 Pop at the Sonoma county office of education. It is running at OC-3 (155Mb/s). That means a bunch of elementary schools have twice the bandwidth as the most prestigious Computer Science program currently running in the world. Prestigious? Yes, they have effectively harnessed millions of desktops to create the fastest computer on the planet by a huge margin. They push 27 Tflop/s on 25 Mb/s compared to ASCI White that just passed 10 Tflop/s. My computers, like every body else's, have wasted a lot of cycles waiting for data. Imagine if they had 2,448 Mbp/s available to them and enough users to create the first 2+ giga-flops computer. Of course they would need 240 million users to achieve that.
Just to be a pessimist, that is probably exactly what all the distributed modules in Win2K/XP are for. Bill is going to have a really nice computer one of these days.
"many people chose to vote with their pocket book."
It sure would be nice if I had a pocket book I could vote with. Except these are the real voters. Enron is a classic example. They got their guy elected, set the US's energy policy and placed their executives into positions where they could do the most good for big oil. This is not new and it's not going to stop. Moron defending big business. Brainwashed into thinking that they are on your side.
I have just accepted a donation for my school district of 32 Compaq Proliant p166 systems. Now should I fork over the cash to microsoft for 32 98SE licences or should I install my copy of Redhat 7.2? I really like this article. I have rescued over a hundred machines for my schools and children that would otherwise never have a computer. I'm using Linux because it is free as in cheap. There is a guy like me in every school district. Some are Macnazi's, some are MCSWannabE, and some, like me, depend on linux supporting old hardware. I have introduced well over 1000 kids in the past 3 years to Linux. They go home to their Macs and winboxes but a few come back and ask me to burn a copy of Redhat for them. For their old boxes. "And by the way do you have any cd drives" they ask. "My computer doesn't have one."
I think I'm doing the right thing.. but then.. I'm a Luddite and nothing but an albatross around the neck of the Linux community
Athlon XP @ 1826/166fsb is the first computer I have ever owned (including a 733 G4/512k) that can scroll through a PDF with no draw in lag. None. It looks just like scrolling through a simpletext document. You can actually read the PDF without printing it. If speed isn't an issue, why does apple release faster models? Migrateing to commodity PC hardware is like breathing easy after years of suffocation: I didn't even know I was suffocating. Apple coddles users into thinking thay have a high performance machine the way VW coddles new beetle owners. It's fast and sporty and shiny and glossy and will get it's doors blown off by the first old rx-7 that crosses it's path. What is wrong with a cray? Why do you think I water cool? Just surfing? Hardly. I can actually rip a DVD to mpeg4 in real time. Apple cannot even play the divx codec.
I'm not a PC fanboy. I work with Apples for a living. I respect them as far as user experience goes but never will I make the mistake of assuming that an Apple has any speed at all. Quadra 650? Put netBSD on that thing. you might learn what memory management and multitasking are. I'm sure you put a lot of love into some old macs but it is time to move out of the world of education and into a real machine. The world loves an underdog but they are beaten -- often
400 Megabyts/second exeeds the speed of Apple's PCI bus 33mhz/32bits wide @ 133 Megabytes per second. The bottleneck transfers to the ageing PCI bus. When the PCI bus saturates, the CPU must imediately stop whatever it was doing to wait for the PCI bus to transfer to memory. Like putting 50 series slicks on a yugo, you are still not going anywhere fast but you just killed your ride quality
Apple: "All these machines include FireWire ports that operate at up to 400 megabits per second"
my accent
Firewire has 50 Megabytes per second.
ATA 66 has 66 Megabytes per second.
ATA 133 has 133 Megabytes per second.
SCSI 160 has 160 Megabytes per second.
USB 2.0 has 60 Megabytes per second.
firewire drives will not save apple, they are slow too.
Current ATA drives peak at full ATA spec due to their huge caches. Their throughput on an ATA 100 bus is just under 50 megabytes per second meaning current drives outperform the firewire spec.
Can't exactly daisy chain firewire devices when ONE uses the spec's entire bandwidth.
So much for Apple being the DV platform of choice.
All gloss and no go!
Marketing is better than leading edge technology.
Time for apple users to pull their heads out of the sand. This may seem like a flame but it is not. I worked on or have had over 260 Macs. No Kidding. Apple has a great OS that falls down in strange places while being great in others. Same with Windows and the *nixs.
But their latest hardware, frankly, is trash.
The 1 Ghz G4 is the first processor to be faster than the 733 G4 w/512k cache introduced over two years ago. While PC hardware has doubled in performance, Apple hardware has been stagnant for two years.
Apple used to use the fastest Drive interface spec available at the time: SCSI. Now they use A drive spec less than 1/3 the speed of the fastest drive spec. Again two years of stagnation.
Apple's PCI bus maxes out at 133Mb/s compared to 533Mb/s available on PC. Again two years of stagnation.
Apple uses PC133 SDRAM at 300Mb/s compared to 1000Mb/s For DDR SDRAM or 1400Mb/s for single channel RDRAM or 2800Mb/s for dual channel RDRAM. Two years of stagnation.
Apple has stereo sound. PC has Dolby 5.1 in almost any new machine. Two years.
I've heard all the "user experience" arguments. Apples user experience is slow and anyone that says otherwise has no frame of reference outside of apple land.
Sorry, I have switched. Apple spent millions on product look and feel when they should have spent millions on hardware engineers. The good old days of paying a premium price for a premium product are long gone. Now we pay a premium price for a sub-standard product that looks fast.
The sad part is, really take a good look at the new imac. It's ugly. It no longer reminds me of a cute VW beetle. It now reminds me of desk lamp. A gray desk lamp. A gray dim desk lamp. A gray dim desk lamp that has firmware issues and is now three weeks late shipping it's first units. A gray dim desk lamp that has firmware issues, is now three weeks late shipping it's first units and has severe overheating issues when running the cd for long enough to install the OS let alone get through an entire DVD movie.
Did you notice that the Imac that Jobs displayed was not on? Shouldn't it have been on? Doesn't the damn thing turn on?
Show me one instance of the iMac being used by a person where you can see activity on the screen while the person is sitting there. Anytime there is activity on the screen they cut away to an imac sitting in a white room with no one operating it AND WITHOUT A KEYBOARD. vaporware.
G4 dual 1000, yes it has DDR memory but at a 5000 fully outfitted price point. Dual p4 2.2 Ghz xeons are not much better on price. Dual AthlonMP are half the cost. Dual Alphas are 4 times the speed same cost. (Alpha included to knock some sense into the Bioinformatics number crunchers).
And all this while the OS asks more from the hardware than ever before. Cold hard truth.
I know this is a stomach punch for apple lovers but if we don't make apple take another path, they will continue to sell us glossy crap for premium price.
Mod as you will... Truth
From which you have drawn your assumption:
"Raising the structure decreases entropy, its decline and fall increases entropy. Over the whole system, however, these are only local increases and decreases; the level of energy (the entropy level) throughout the whole system is both constant and very, very low. Therefore, it is common to speak of entropy, of an increase in entropy, as the running down of the universe."
But:
Information is not energy. Information is not matter. Information however is viral and will gather order to it. At he end of time the universe will suffer heat death. But it will contain a single bit of data. The universe will be less than 1 degree kelvin, but it will be something, not nothing, 1 not 0
If Quantum computing is possible, as opposed to quantum storage of encryption keys, like you referred to, then we will have much more power available to us than simple encryption.
If we could pass a single bit of data through a quantum wormhole, we could use the bit as a frame of reference to synchronize two clocks at different altitudes. We could then directly measure gravity waves because of the effect gravity has on time. But since no one has actually been able to pass observable data faster than the speed of light, we have not been able to unify Relativity with Quantum Mechanics.
We've passed data faster then the speed of light across far enough distances to make gravity waves' effect on time a measurable effect using cesium beam clocks but we are not allowed to look at the data bit until relativity tells us we can otherwise we break causality - we would witness the effect of the data bit before we had generated it.
This is so far off-topic from analog robots that some would consider negative moderation. Hopefully today's moderators will see the value of this discussion and not relegate it to the pits of trolldom. Hell, this is nerdy and it matters and it is the natural flow of discussion from the subject.
an analog computer accurate to three decimal places would reduce a 128 bit encryption key into a key aprroximately 55 bits long, a substantially easier task for a conventional computer.
Information on a computer does not need to be stored as a physical object. I am beating my head into the observer changing the observed object when I think of how perfect values of pi could be stored on an analog computer but that problem has nothing to do with perfect physical objects, which according to Plato are impossible. In other words, you have just restated a 2500-year-old argument that does not apply here. Information does not follow the laws of physics. That is why the information carried by our DNA is allowed to get more complex with time instead of the opposite, as entropy would dictate.
The problem of the value of pi being changed because of its use in computation (being observed by other parts of the machine) could be solved by skewing the value initially to allow for the change that would occur by checking it again.
As brilliant as Descartes was in applying graphing to geometry, he pigeon holed us into always assuming that shapes implying numbers, which on close examination is a ludicrous assumption. Shapes can expressed as numbers but that does not mean shapes are numbers.
"#320 Dell Dell PowerEdge Cluster Windows 2000" the MCSE bleated
Oh, we are Microsheep, Microsheep are we!
Analog Computing
:)
Binary computing has served the purpose of giving birth to the computer age but I feel we are missing something by not exploring other avenues such as analog computing. While there are plenty of capable D/A algorithms, nature does not have to resort to such stop-gap solutions. All of natures processing occurs in analog form, which me might be wise to pursue.
To quote Lee A Rubel:
"The future of analog computing is unlimited. As a visionary, I see it eventually displacing digital computing, especially, in the beginning, in partial differential equations and as a model in neurobiology. It will take some decades for this to be done. In the meantime, it is a very rich and challenging field of investigation, although (or maybe because) it is not in the current fashion.
Sincerely yours,
LEE A. RUBEL"
Jonathan W. Mills, a professor at Indiana University has an open request for graduate student's to assist in developing analog computers
Hava Siegelmann at the Technion Institute of Technology, claims in her thesis that some computational problems can only be solved by analog neural networks. Since neural networks are essentially analog computers, the work suggests, on a theoretical level, that analog operations are inherently more powerful than digital.
The most compelling example I can personally think of is that analog computers would allow you to work with perfect values of pi.
Interesting applications include strong cryptography/cryptanalysis. Where an analog crypto key would be uncrackable since it could hold a value such as pi or root 2, obviously incalculable numbers. On the cryptanalysis side, an analog computer would allow you to guess very closely the factors of large primes before turning that data over to A digital computer to brute force the solution from a very small range of possible values.
And yes, I need a job too
Windows, Lindows.
GeForce, TriForce.
Monopoly, Wanabee.
Smell the Money?
I love it that everyone here had the same reaction I did. I was shocked and my rescue/hero/hardwarehacker jumped out. We all were agahst that such a fine piece of hardware might go to waste. I have a cluster of p90 through p233's just because I hate to see good old hardware go to waste.
It has a life, It has a conscienceness, damn you! let the rabbits wear glasses. Save our brothers! ~ Tool
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What has more relavance? Who purchased their way on to who's list? Who's searching technique was exploited to earn higher marks?
Oh no! When I think about all the crap I learned in High School, it's a wonder I can think at all. Although my life of education never hurt me none, I can read the writing on the wall.
God forbid anyone makes you use the processor between your ears to filter information instead of spoon feeding processed pasturized iradiated crap into your hamburger mind.
Can't do a propper search? You don't even need to be on the internet. It is in fact dangerous for you to be here. You are probably the type of person that responds to spam mail.
In other words, Google is a good company but they need to earn money too. Otherwise they will be weak and get purchase by Microsoft or AOL just like every good online service.
Remember when hotmail was run on Linux? Remember when ICQ passed its first million users? Remember when Hitbox, Realplayer and Gozilla! didn't track the crap out of you?
Let Goggle Be Google and spend your time worrying about The DMCA, Microsoft's Monopoly and the kernal forking
The enermax EG651P-VE FMA has one 9 cm fan intake heat and one 8 cm fan exhaust heat with a rheostat included produces 500w/650peak with the fans at full. Turn the fans down to silent and it still performs at 300w. The heat sinks are massive, Representing 60% of the unit's weight. The unit is rated for 650 because of it's quality components and high heat tolerance. Combined with extreme passive cooling capacity, This allows for silent operation if you do not need the unit's full capacity. The Performa 630 used a 45 watt power supply. Not ATX and not enough power. The cube used an external power supply. The Imac has a decent power supply but you have to by all that glossy plastic and tiny monitor that goes with it.
So..
Enermax EG651P-VE FMA $185
NV7M $136
XP1800 $133
MC462 $57
256 kingmax DDR PC2100 $69
Travelstar 40gb $201
CD $20
Brand name microATX $40
So, $840 for a silent Tiny 1Ghz/ 40Gb/ 256Mb/ GF2mx/ Ether/ Modem/ Dolby6.1
Or get an Imac
To quote Tom's hardware on the koolance:
"As far as the noise level is concerned, the new Koolance system is not quite as inconspicuous as the old one. At medium heat levels in the processor core, the three fans can produce quite a racket."
Also, It's a mid tower not a micro atx as pictured here (This is the propper link)
Get an ABIT NV7M micro atx Nforce chipset motherboard. Softmenu III allows you to underclock and undervolt your processor. Buy the XP1800 (good value for quiet & fast). I have an old Swiftech MC462 that can cool my XP1800 to sub-40c when I reduce the multiplier to 7.5 and voltage to 1.65 without a fan. I put a paper tube around the top of the heatsink to take advantage of the chimney effect. Remember, air MUST move but you can let the chimney effect do it for you. Nforce allows tiny design because no pci cards are required for a full fetured system. Slow hardrive @ 5400rpm or 40 Gb IBM 2.5 inch laptop drive willl be coolest. 36x max cd or 4-8x dvd for reduced noise/heat. Sorbothane shockmount everything. Get a vastly over rated powersupply 460w and throttle the fan down with a rheostat. The power supply will never be working at full load so you can safely reduce the fan rpm. Should be nearly silent, 800 to 1000mhz depending on how cool your processor is and cost less than 600 bucks. Oh, don't use paper for your chimney, that was just for test purposes.
We wil still be hearing about that same piece of flawed glass orbiting the earth taking better and better pictures with cameras that have been replace 10 times. Not that this would be a bad thing. All the Telescopes built on Kitt Peak are still in service in one form or another. The state of the art at the time .9m scope is now used by students while the new 4m scope is used by professionals. The expensive and heavy part being the glass, We will keep it in orbit and wrap new instruments around it until it gets hit by something big, like a bolt from Apollo 13.
CalREN-2 consists of two giant loops - called CalREN North serving UC berkley and CalREN South (in the Los Angeles area). Each loop is a gigaPOP - providing the high-speed connection into the nationwide Internet. Each loop provides OC-48 (2,448 Mbp/s) connections to member campuses.
Now, since this equipment has been in place since the middle of last summer, Why are they using their dual 45Mb/s connection? Just get some cable dogs out there to run some fiber. Hell, I'll get out there and run some fiber for them. Remember when some yahoo's cut their fiber while stealing copper to recycle? They were down for like two weeks. Well, it took them two weeks to run fiber across the campus again. If they get started now, they could have as much bandwidth as they could possible want by running fiber to their Internet 2 pop.
I have seen the I2 Pop at the Sonoma county office of education. It is running at OC-3 (155Mb/s). That means a bunch of elementary schools have twice the bandwidth as the most prestigious Computer Science program currently running in the world. Prestigious? Yes, they have effectively harnessed millions of desktops to create the fastest computer on the planet by a huge margin. They push 27 Tflop/s on 25 Mb/s compared to ASCI White that just passed 10 Tflop/s. My computers, like every body else's, have wasted a lot of cycles waiting for data. Imagine if they had 2,448 Mbp/s available to them and enough users to create the first 2+ giga-flops computer. Of course they would need 240 million users to achieve that.
Just to be a pessimist, that is probably exactly what all the distributed modules in Win2K/XP are for. Bill is going to have a really nice computer one of these days.
Neither linked site has any news about this. If there is a lottery held by these guys, they don't know about it. makes me think "e-mail scam!!"
Just send your credit card number to XXX-XXXX to enter yourself in the mars lottery!
"many people chose to vote with their pocket book."
It sure would be nice if I had a pocket book I could vote with. Except these are the real voters. Enron is a classic example. They got their guy elected, set the US's energy policy and placed their executives into positions where they could do the most good for big oil. This is not new and it's not going to stop. Moron defending big business. Brainwashed into thinking that they are on your side.
Binary Hypercube
the best math link
So since he does this for a living does he sue gnutella for using his idea after they have implemented it?
There was no air on the moon or in high earth orbit, so there was no reason to keep the astronauts quaranteened.
This is sort of recent but there was fungus on the outside of mir's glass
google cache of article
Mir crashed and this crap is in the ocean now after spending millions of life cycles in had cosmic radiation
Nature at it's best through evolution and man doing stupid things to himself.
I have just accepted a donation for my school district of 32 Compaq Proliant p166 systems. Now should I fork over the cash to microsoft for 32 98SE licences or should I install my copy of Redhat 7.2? I really like this article. I have rescued over a hundred machines for my schools and children that would otherwise never have a computer. I'm using Linux because it is free as in cheap. There is a guy like me in every school district. Some are Macnazi's, some are MCSWannabE, and some, like me, depend on linux supporting old hardware. I have introduced well over 1000 kids in the past 3 years to Linux. They go home to their Macs and winboxes but a few come back and ask me to burn a copy of Redhat for them. For their old boxes. "And by the way do you have any cd drives" they ask. "My computer doesn't have one."
I think I'm doing the right thing.. but then.. I'm a Luddite and nothing but an albatross around the neck of the Linux community