Is this with your own sensibly created files, or with files that others have somehow hacked together so that they just barely display "properly" with MSOffice itself?
I've found Calc is able to do what I need it to do. The problem is, whenever I actually need to make a spreadsheet, I also have to share it. It's the compatibility issues that forced me to use Excel on the company's computer (fortunately I switched jobs a year ago and haven't had to deal with spreadsheets since).
If you don't use the JRE (I don't) you can turn it off (Tools->Options->LibreOffice->Java->Use a Java runtime environment) to improve performance. You can also adjust memory usage (Tools->Options->LibreOffice->Memory) which helps, too.
I just installed the debs. When you download and untar the package, there's a desktop-integration directory inside DEBS. If you want it to show up under Applications on Gnome, you have to install the package in there as well.
Capitalism's not based on open markets. A free market economy is only one way to implement capitalism. Another is to allow all the people who have capital to use their capital to crush any potential competition and form monopolies. Check out the history of Standard Oil for a fascinating example of laissez faire capitalism that produced the richest man in history at the expense of nearly all competition.
Anyhow, even for Japan, sometimes you may run into annoyances: e.g. receiving a call (assume using hands-free) at a moment you need to decide which turn to take.
I would hope I wasn't driving so fast that this would be an issue. I'd see the turn coming up long before I needed to turn (on a regular GPS as well). Besides, I'd have the phone on car mode if I was the driver (shouldn't be talking on the phone while driving anyways). I had no idea GPS could be used with closest-celltower triangulation. I assumed they were all satellite.
I'm pretty much down to three gadgets I use regularly---my EeePC 1000HE with Debian & Ubuntu on it, my Desire, and my electronic dictionary (a Seiko (SII) SR-ME7200, which I've had for three or four years now and goes with me everywhere). I don't like TV and I'm a terrible photographer. The only other device I'd like to have is an ebook reader---but what I really want is an EeePC-like device with a flip screen and one of those screens that can switch between LED and e-paper, so I can use it as a computer as well as an ereader (less to carry). Although I won't consider one until it's also possible to put the Linux distro of my choice on it (so basically an EeePC with the screen I want).
Well, after buying my phone, we forewent buying a GPS for the car*, which recently we'd been hankering for (borrowing my sister-in-law's unit quite a bit). Buying the smartphone has serendipitously made much more practical sense than I'd thought when I first got it.
*(if you've traveled around Japan before, you'd understand the utility of a GPS device. It's so easy to get lost here, even with a good map)
Trying to figure out why slashdotters mod one way or another isn't likely to get you anywhere, but I imagine the ones who modded my post "insightful" saw that my question was meant to be rhetorical---the implication that there was no such phone.
Assessing the situation as an adult, the reason I bought a smartphone (an HTC Desire) is because my old phone was starting to fall apart, and there was a deal at Softbank on the Desire: about 12000yen (what is that, $100?) if I got a two-year contract, which was cheaper than any of the other phones that I would've considered at the time. Plus I got to use my previous 2 1/2 years worth of Softbank points to reduce the price further (I forget by how much). It ended up being a (relatively) decent deal, and I got a fun toy to play with in the bargain. Most dumb phones, unlikely as it sounds, would have cost me at least a little bit more.
No, you don't understand at all*. I was asking what phone was available that didn't treat its users like children.
My comment makes an awful lot more sense when you read it in the context of the post it was responding to. Despite the superfluous remarks about cars, phones and keys to houses, the comment didn't actually have anything to do with cars, pizzas or keys to houses. It sure as fuck didn't have anything to do with mortgages, levels of wealth, or retirement.
* (and, honestly, I don't think you're actually trying)
Remember, the price is not an issues for "for adults who have their own cars and pay for their own pizzas" and who "have keys to their own houses".
Uh...."remember" WHAT?!?!? Never heard of a mortgage?!? You're the first person I've ever heard who was old enough to know how to spell who assumed adulthood somehow entitled you to a money tree.
You also seem to equate adulthood with people do weird things like running around with dongles hanging off their phones. You're in for a lot of surprises someday when hit 18, boy.
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Patent trolling by Oracle would be reason #1.
It would be nice to be able to use a language that wasn't half boilerplate, as well.
But getting less and less important every year.
Citation needed. Adventure games were my favourite genre 20 years ago. I didn't know a single girl who could bear them.
Someone modded this "overrated"---and they were the only to mod me! That "someone" needs a dictionary....
Y'know, you can find out if it works or not in the preview. That's how I found out Japanese still doesn't work.
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Is that actually Unicode? Japanese isn't working (despite there being a Japanese Slashdot!!!!)
Holy crap! I was here only a couple hours ago. I thought I'd typed in the wrong url by mistake!
Is this with your own sensibly created files, or with files that others have somehow hacked together so that they just barely display "properly" with MSOffice itself?
Well, in emacs you can do spreadsheets.
I've found Calc is able to do what I need it to do. The problem is, whenever I actually need to make a spreadsheet, I also have to share it. It's the compatibility issues that forced me to use Excel on the company's computer (fortunately I switched jobs a year ago and haven't had to deal with spreadsheets since).
If you don't use the JRE (I don't) you can turn it off (Tools->Options->LibreOffice->Java->Use a Java runtime environment) to improve performance. You can also adjust memory usage (Tools->Options->LibreOffice->Memory) which helps, too.
I just installed the debs. When you download and untar the package, there's a desktop-integration directory inside DEBS. If you want it to show up under Applications on Gnome, you have to install the package in there as well.
Apple MacIntosh (McIntosh Apples)
Bonus points for noticing the difference in the spelling!
Thanks for that!
I've never had problems with .doc files in OpenOffice, but I have had problems with excel files. I try to avoid both, though.
What went wrong there?!? I tried to link to wikipedia and somehow produced a link to slashdot. Just wiki Standard Oil!
Capitalism's not based on open markets. A free market economy is only one way to implement capitalism. Another is to allow all the people who have capital to use their capital to crush any potential competition and form monopolies. Check out the history of Standard Oil for a fascinating example of laissez faire capitalism that produced the richest man in history at the expense of nearly all competition.
Anyhow, even for Japan, sometimes you may run into annoyances: e.g. receiving a call (assume using hands-free) at a moment you need to decide which turn to take.
I would hope I wasn't driving so fast that this would be an issue. I'd see the turn coming up long before I needed to turn (on a regular GPS as well). Besides, I'd have the phone on car mode if I was the driver (shouldn't be talking on the phone while driving anyways). I had no idea GPS could be used with closest-celltower triangulation. I assumed they were all satellite.
I'm pretty much down to three gadgets I use regularly---my EeePC 1000HE with Debian & Ubuntu on it, my Desire, and my electronic dictionary (a Seiko (SII) SR-ME7200, which I've had for three or four years now and goes with me everywhere). I don't like TV and I'm a terrible photographer. The only other device I'd like to have is an ebook reader---but what I really want is an EeePC-like device with a flip screen and one of those screens that can switch between LED and e-paper, so I can use it as a computer as well as an ereader (less to carry). Although I won't consider one until it's also possible to put the Linux distro of my choice on it (so basically an EeePC with the screen I want).
Well, after buying my phone, we forewent buying a GPS for the car*, which recently we'd been hankering for (borrowing my sister-in-law's unit quite a bit). Buying the smartphone has serendipitously made much more practical sense than I'd thought when I first got it.
*(if you've traveled around Japan before, you'd understand the utility of a GPS device. It's so easy to get lost here, even with a good map)
Trying to figure out why slashdotters mod one way or another isn't likely to get you anywhere, but I imagine the ones who modded my post "insightful" saw that my question was meant to be rhetorical---the implication that there was no such phone.
Assessing the situation as an adult, the reason I bought a smartphone (an HTC Desire) is because my old phone was starting to fall apart, and there was a deal at Softbank on the Desire: about 12000yen (what is that, $100?) if I got a two-year contract, which was cheaper than any of the other phones that I would've considered at the time. Plus I got to use my previous 2 1/2 years worth of Softbank points to reduce the price further (I forget by how much). It ended up being a (relatively) decent deal, and I got a fun toy to play with in the bargain. Most dumb phones, unlikely as it sounds, would have cost me at least a little bit more.
If people were stupid enough to put that shit up in the first place, what makes anyone think that they'd be smart enough to take it down now?
No, you don't understand at all*. I was asking what phone was available that didn't treat its users like children.
My comment makes an awful lot more sense when you read it in the context of the post it was responding to. Despite the superfluous remarks about cars, phones and keys to houses, the comment didn't actually have anything to do with cars, pizzas or keys to houses. It sure as fuck didn't have anything to do with mortgages, levels of wealth, or retirement.
* (and, honestly, I don't think you're actually trying)
Blackberry? Isn't it the #1 smartphone in share?
In the US/Canada. Quite a few of us don't live there.
BTW, if you have a mortgage, you are NOT the owner, the bank is (or whoever bought the derivatives you mortgage was transformed into).
Wow, did you just wiki that? I had no idea!
It appears you've just learned something about the adult world! Thank you, and you can quit trolling now.
Remember, the
price is not an issues
for "for adults who have their own cars and pay for their own pizzas" and who "have keys to their own houses".
Uh...."remember" WHAT?!?!? Never heard of a mortgage?!? You're the first person I've ever heard who was old enough to know how to spell who assumed adulthood somehow entitled you to a money tree.
You also seem to equate adulthood with people do weird things like running around with dongles hanging off their phones. You're in for a lot of surprises someday when hit 18, boy.
And I do own a Desire, by the way (on Softbank).