Dnetc didn't seem to run on my computer very well, and it didn't provide tangible results. With this, it shows you what you're working on in a lot of detail. ------------
Come on. Way back a while ago (don't know if you're old enough to remember:) ), ancient prosperous cultures' peoples got married at age 13 and had babies. The Romans and Egyptians are two examples which come to mind. ------------
You probably think that porn, violence, sex, etc in movies and on the Internet will harm your kid. Prove that.
Violence: Recently posted on Salon.com was this little tidbit:
> I was on a media panel a couple of weeks ago, and one of the
> panelists was a representative of the American Medical
> Association. A couple of months ago, the AMA joined with the
> American Psychological Association and signed on to this very
> dubious statement that claimed that the link between media
> violence and harm to minors had been proven.
>
> This panelist was very frank: He said, "We signed on to that
> statement as a political decision. There were things we needed
> from Senator Brownback, and from Senator Lieberman, and this
> seemed like a reasonable trade-off."
Sex & Porn: So, how come the most natural thing, the reason we all live today, is now "bad" for "younger" people (of course, once you're 18, *poof* you're mature enough to do anything 'cept drink). Porn does not devalue or demoralize women; that has been proven. However, that doesn't stop legislators and people like you from spreading false information. ------------
The site's "shell server" was compromised May 22 after a SourceForge employee
logged on to an outside Internet service provider that had already been taken
over by the intruder, said Pat McGovern, site director of SourceForge.net. When
the staff member logged on to SourceForge remotely, the intruder captured the
password.
Well some of that is true, I mean I did trojan ssh but I did it about 5
months ago, so kudos to the admin you sir are awesome..
"What happened was the (ISP) was compromised and had not known it," McGovern
said, adding that the site's administrator quickly noticed the intruder and shut
systems down. "Basically we had to go through and rebuild the machine, and then
we checked the log file of everyone who used the machine."
hrm I guess that could also be considered true, if by true you mean, finding
out every box on your network is owned 5 months after the fact and only due to
my own boredom that consisted of me ircing it infront of the admin, by the way
good job of auditing your network, wait thats just too much sarcasm for one
sentence..
After the attack, VA removed the shell service until workers could reinstall
the software and data on the server. The shell server allowed SourceForge
members to type commands into the system remotely. On Thursday, the company
posted an alert that the shell server couldn't be used because of an
"unscheduled maintenance event."
It also allowed me to sniff my way onto apache.org and sourceforge webserver
and leave all sorts of goodies in the code..
In this case, they only got into a shell server," McGovern said.
Hey, theres no disputing that, I mean.. wait.. Whats this I'm defacing ?
The company also decided to shut down its "compile farm," a collection of
computers running different operating systems on which SourceForge developers
can test their software.
Why would they shut down other boxes, if only the shell server was hacked ?
Although illicit modifications to the programming projects are a concern,
McGovern said the intruder didn't get that far. oh come now, you're just
being silly..
Its ok thought I dont blame you guys, I mean atleast you admited to being
schooled, thats more then I can say for akamai, but thats a different story all
together.. But never the less, I'd like to thank valinux.. apache.. akamai and
ofcourse exodus without their poor security and refusal to make security
breaches known to the public I wouldnt be sitting atop a mountain of roots and
oodles of proprietary software.. This is the fluffy bunny signing of.. beep..
-fluffy@#blackpanthers on efnet (the scourge of efnet)
Greets to: dianora.. tsk.. squrl.. cumstud.. glitch.. snow.. dwalrus..
cotton butt.. JAIL MITNICK! / FREE THE SHDWKNGHT!!!!!
Note: I removed the/etc/passwd file at the end of this. Thought it would be nicer that way. ------------
Sort of like if the United States of America is blown up by several strategically places nukes, we shouldn't publicize it because the terrorists would feel rewarded.
If the attacks are publicized and detailed somewhere, then us sysadmins will be able to better protect against them.
BTW--What you're describing is "Security through obscurity" which we all know doesn't work:-) ------------
Yeah--the pull-the-plug trick is a good one. One time, someone erased illegal files right in front of my eyes. I, of course, was trying to stop them. So once they had dropped the files in the Trash (this was a Mac) and went to Special->Empty Trash, I pulled the plug. They walked away, thinking they had foiled my plan.
No way! I turned on the computer and found the files in their original location. Sometimes, asynchronous FSs can be helpful:-) ------------
Install it normally, then see if it changed/etc. If it did, then just pull the plug and everything will be fine, thanks to our friend, ext2. ------------
Anyone find it funny that this story and the KGesture story were posted on the same day? It's an evil, vast corporate conspiracy to track our usage patterns even when we avoid the Evil Empire!
I think the RIAA is working really hard on trying to shoot themselves in the foot. By seeming to go after everyone and everything that doesn't play exactly the way RIAA wants them to play, people are going to get really tired of this big bully. It's one thing to go after people copying copyrighted songs, but to say it's a problem to let people have this level of customization? People are going to start seeing through the show they're putting on, all their claims, and see what they're really doing.
No, people are not getting tired of this big bully. We (the/.ers) and the rest of the technically-informed people are. But the people who support the RIAA (and MPAA) with money by buying CDs and movies don't know their practices. We need to inform them.
As much as we talk about how terrible they are, we are being hipocrites. We need to *educate* others about what these two conglomerates are doing for the betterment of our rights. ------------
Wow, you must have completely slept through the fire safety classes in 5th grade. Everyone knows it's SDR - Stop, Drop, and Roll, not just Drop and Roll. ------------
Actually, there was someone a while ago who actually did go a whole month eating only Spam (the food, not the email crap). It was, of course, televised on Fox News and CNN.
When the month passed, he vowed never to eat spam again...he needed to go to a hospital to get liposuction because his arteries were filled up with spam (which is basically just pink-colored fat). ------------
eFront also bought one website I worked on (PCMech.com) and offered to buy another that I owned.
I warned the PCMech owner NOT to get associated with eF. All the other sites that eF bought (I knew a LOT of people in the webmaster community) were abused. Ads were put up (the popup kind), payments were late, and most of all the webmasters retained NO control. Strict guidelines were set up to stop them from seeing their OWN stats just so eF could make up their own numbers!
Lowtax (webmaster of SomethingAwful) is now part of eF (and not just a siteowner). hE's trying to make things better. I sure hope he can, or a HUGE percentage of everyone's fav sites will be screwed (PA, SA, PCMech, etc etc). Wish him good luck. ------------
Re:Online Journals are asking for TROUBLE
on
Online Journals
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Uhh, I think Inoshiro, K5's admin, stated everyone's general opinion quite well. From #kuro5hin on SlashNET...
CL: Now, since Perl 6 is going to be developed under more organized way, do you expect it to live longer? (Of course, I don't mean Perl 5 is dead, though.)
LW: One of the proposals, one of the RFCs was that Perl 6 should be the last version of Perl. The idea is that if we make Perl 6 sufficiently flexible, then there's no need for Perl 7, because you can always bend the full language into whatever you want it to be.
This poses an interesting question. Once the language can do everything in a sense that it was meant to do (everything but operating systems, pretty much) do you discontinue development? Or do you still tweak it for as much speed as possible? What happens if the enviroment of computers changes enough that perl is just not apt to handling it in its latest version?
Flamewars aside, I don't think that perl development will stop. If Larry Wall stops developing it, then the rest of the perl development group will jump on.
I know I'm going to get modded down for this, but I'd like to hear some other's opinions.
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Slashdot Mirror
Now I'm putting all my CPU time towards finding a cure for cancer. IMO, United Devices' client is much better, too.
http://members.ud.com/home.htm
I'm a member of the Sitepoint team.
Dnetc didn't seem to run on my computer very well, and it didn't provide tangible results. With this, it shows you what you're working on in a lot of detail.
------------
Come on. Way back a while ago (don't know if you're old enough to remember :) ), ancient prosperous cultures' peoples got married at age 13 and had babies. The Romans and Egyptians are two examples which come to mind.
------------
Seriously. This sort of comment really annoys me.
You probably think that porn, violence, sex, etc in movies and on the Internet will harm your kid. Prove that.
Violence: Recently posted on Salon.com was this little tidbit:
> I was on a media panel a couple of weeks ago, and one of the
> panelists was a representative of the American Medical
> Association. A couple of months ago, the AMA joined with the
> American Psychological Association and signed on to this very
> dubious statement that claimed that the link between media
> violence and harm to minors had been proven.
>
> This panelist was very frank: He said, "We signed on to that
> statement as a political decision. There were things we needed
> from Senator Brownback, and from Senator Lieberman, and this
> seemed like a reasonable trade-off."
Sex & Porn: So, how come the most natural thing, the reason we all live today, is now "bad" for "younger" people (of course, once you're 18, *poof* you're mature enough to do anything 'cept drink). Porn does not devalue or demoralize women; that has been proven. However, that doesn't stop legislators and people like you from spreading false information.
------------
I think you're talking about Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir. Avec qui means with whom, and avec moi means with me. The song was "with me".
I wonder why I know these things at all...
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The site's "shell server" was compromised May 22 after a SourceForge employee logged on to an outside Internet service provider that had already been taken over by the intruder, said Pat McGovern, site director of SourceForge.net. When the staff member logged on to SourceForge remotely, the intruder captured the password.
Well some of that is true, I mean I did trojan ssh but I did it about 5 months ago, so kudos to the admin you sir are awesome..
"What happened was the (ISP) was compromised and had not known it," McGovern said, adding that the site's administrator quickly noticed the intruder and shut systems down. "Basically we had to go through and rebuild the machine, and then we checked the log file of everyone who used the machine."
hrm I guess that could also be considered true, if by true you mean, finding out every box on your network is owned 5 months after the fact and only due to my own boredom that consisted of me ircing it infront of the admin, by the way good job of auditing your network, wait thats just too much sarcasm for one sentence..
After the attack, VA removed the shell service until workers could reinstall the software and data on the server. The shell server allowed SourceForge members to type commands into the system remotely. On Thursday, the company posted an alert that the shell server couldn't be used because of an "unscheduled maintenance event."
It also allowed me to sniff my way onto apache.org and sourceforge webserver and leave all sorts of goodies in the code..
In this case, they only got into a shell server," McGovern said.
Hey, theres no disputing that, I mean.. wait.. Whats this I'm defacing ?
The company also decided to shut down its "compile farm," a collection of computers running different operating systems on which SourceForge developers can test their software.
Why would they shut down other boxes, if only the shell server was hacked ?
Although illicit modifications to the programming projects are a concern, McGovern said the intruder didn't get that far.
oh come now, you're just being silly..
Its ok thought I dont blame you guys, I mean atleast you admited to being schooled, thats more then I can say for akamai, but thats a different story all together.. But never the less, I'd like to thank valinux.. apache.. akamai and ofcourse exodus without their poor security and refusal to make security breaches known to the public I wouldnt be sitting atop a mountain of roots and oodles of proprietary software.. This is the fluffy bunny signing of.. beep..
-fluffy@#blackpanthers on efnet (the scourge of efnet)
Greets to: dianora.. tsk.. squrl.. cumstud.. glitch.. snow.. dwalrus.. cotton butt.. JAIL MITNICK! / FREE THE SHDWKNGHT!!!!!
/etc/passwd file at the end of this. Thought it would be nicer that way.
Note: I removed the
------------
Sort of like if the United States of America is blown up by several strategically places nukes, we shouldn't publicize it because the terrorists would feel rewarded.
:-)
If the attacks are publicized and detailed somewhere, then us sysadmins will be able to better protect against them.
BTW--What you're describing is "Security through obscurity" which we all know doesn't work
------------
Yeah--the pull-the-plug trick is a good one. One time, someone erased illegal files right in front of my eyes. I, of course, was trying to stop them. So once they had dropped the files in the Trash (this was a Mac) and went to Special->Empty Trash, I pulled the plug. They walked away, thinking they had foiled my plan.
:-)
No way! I turned on the computer and found the files in their original location. Sometimes, asynchronous FSs can be helpful
------------
Install it normally, then see if it changed /etc. If it did, then just pull the plug and everything will be fine, thanks to our friend, ext2.
------------
Good point--hadn't thought of that :P I wish /. had an "edit post" option.
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Anyone find it funny that this story and the KGesture story were posted on the same day? It's an evil, vast corporate conspiracy to track our usage patterns even when we avoid the Evil Empire!
------------
I think the RIAA is working really hard on trying to shoot themselves in the foot. By seeming to go after everyone and everything that doesn't play exactly the way RIAA wants them to play, people are going to get really tired of this big bully. It's one thing to go after people copying copyrighted songs, but to say it's a problem to let people have this level of customization? People are going to start seeing through the show they're putting on, all their claims, and see what they're really doing.
/.ers) and the rest of the technically-informed people are. But the people who support the RIAA (and MPAA) with money by buying CDs and movies don't know their practices. We need to inform them.
No, people are not getting tired of this big bully. We (the
As much as we talk about how terrible they are, we are being hipocrites. We need to *educate* others about what these two conglomerates are doing for the betterment of our rights.
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NewOS's name is funny. In Hindu, "New Oh Ess" or "Newoess" means "one who makes false promises."
Sort of funny. Like how CIPA (Children's Online Protection Act) means "pussy" in Swedish.
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Mr Ravicher,
What is your opinion on the DeCSS court case involving 2600 Magazine and the MPAA? Do you think that DeCSS itself is legal? Should linking be legal?
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Wow, you must have completely slept through the fire safety classes in 5th grade. Everyone knows it's SDR - Stop, Drop, and Roll, not just Drop and Roll.
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Actually, there was someone a while ago who actually did go a whole month eating only Spam (the food, not the email crap). It was, of course, televised on Fox News and CNN.
When the month passed, he vowed never to eat spam again...he needed to go to a hospital to get liposuction because his arteries were filled up with spam (which is basically just pink-colored fat).
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"Is a CS-degree the best way?"
:P
Do you get an honorary counterstrike degree if you play it 24/7?
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So make a "compiler" which takes the text form of their paper and makes it into the DeCSS code.
Then it would too be functional.
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:13:11 -0400 (EDT)
...
0 .t ar.gz
From: Michael Meeks
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Bonobo 1.0.0 released
Ximian ( in conjunction with several honorary monkeys ) is
happy to announce that yet a new, and excitingly stable Bonobo has
just been released. This fixes a slew of minor irritations, and
importantly fully documents the non-deprecated C APIs, and fixes
translation issues. Of course, there is no API breakage.
* So, what did you change ?
* Documentation
* Full C API documentation (Me, Miguel & John Sheets)
* Lots of nice DIA diagrams (John Sheets)
* preliminary UI XML DTD (Paolo)
* Storage / Stream
* fix symlink issues in fs storage (Vladimir Vukicevic)
* fs storage permissions fix (Dietmar)
* improved storage-fs / stream-fs mime typing (Jens Finke)
* Event source / Listener
* event-source fixes (Richard Hult)
* event-source cleans (Dietmar)
* event-source re-enterancy fix (Me)
* Property Bag
* batch property get/set impl. (Dietmar)
* property bag client SEGV fix (Larry)
* PropertyBag leak fixes (Iain Holmes)
* Monikers (Dietmar)
* moniker file extender fix
* monikers memory leak fix
* moniker URL registry
* Any support logic
* bonobo-arg fixes (Dietmar)
* XML typecode reference fix (Dietmar)
* Fix XML type coding bugs (Me)
* UI handler bits
* Revert unsafe attempt at AA pixbufs (Me)
* minor XML de-merge logic fix (Me)
* config fixes (Iain Holmes)
* Always cleanup XML we hand out (Me)
* pixmap XML acceleration (John Harper)
* Misc fixes
* fix multiple translation issues (Me)
* gshell fixes (Martin Baulig)
* include config.h some more (Kjartan)
* control / object destruction race fix (Darin)
* Reduce control's memory footprint (Miguel, Me)
* Availability
http://primates.ximian.com/~michael/bonobo-1.0.
[1] - to the best of my knowledge.
--
mmeeks@gnu.org , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot
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Check the date. My watch says Apr 1.
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Why not mod_perl or mod_python characters? We all know CGI is outdated....
Oh. Computer Graphics characters.
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Yeah, let's take the money, teach the poor how to use computers, teach them C, and have them work on the kernel!
/* Now, we make el kernel el speako to la Western Digital 200HDC avec la C code! */
:)
Imagine seeing comments like:
You have a great idea!
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eFront also bought one website I worked on (PCMech.com) and offered to buy another that I owned.
I warned the PCMech owner NOT to get associated with eF. All the other sites that eF bought (I knew a LOT of people in the webmaster community) were abused. Ads were put up (the popup kind), payments were late, and most of all the webmasters retained NO control. Strict guidelines were set up to stop them from seeing their OWN stats just so eF could make up their own numbers!
Lowtax (webmaster of SomethingAwful) is now part of eF (and not just a siteowner). hE's trying to make things better. I sure hope he can, or a HUGE percentage of everyone's fav sites will be screwed (PA, SA, PCMech, etc etc). Wish him good luck.
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Uhh, I think Inoshiro, K5's admin, stated everyone's general opinion quite well. From #kuro5hin on SlashNET...
0 3&cid=18 <-- boooooo
<Inoshiro_away> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/02/26/0232
BTW: Nice troll.
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These are quite a good (and funny) read.
http://www.primeline-america.com/moon-ldg/
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/aylett/eth69.html
http://batesmotel.8m.com/
http://www.forteantimes.com/artic/97/moon.html
Some people are crazy too, like this guy, who says the MOON is a fake.
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This bit from Larry's interview stuck out to me.
CL: Now, since Perl 6 is going to be developed under more organized way, do you expect it to live longer? (Of course, I don't mean Perl 5 is dead, though.)
LW: One of the proposals, one of the RFCs was that Perl 6 should be the last version of Perl. The idea is that if we make Perl 6 sufficiently flexible, then there's no need for Perl 7, because you can always bend the full language into whatever you want it to be.
This poses an interesting question. Once the language can do everything in a sense that it was meant to do (everything but operating systems, pretty much) do you discontinue development? Or do you still tweak it for as much speed as possible? What happens if the enviroment of computers changes enough that perl is just not apt to handling it in its latest version?
Flamewars aside, I don't think that perl development will stop. If Larry Wall stops developing it, then the rest of the perl development group will jump on.
I know I'm going to get modded down for this, but I'd like to hear some other's opinions.
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