Well, exactly, but some of the later games had much more expressive parsers so it was less of a problem. But, the point is the puzzles were harder because you couldn't just say use X with Y (as you do in most point-and-clicks), you had to actually know how X and Y would be used together.
With the lack of decent games (especially those that are playable under linux or wine) recently, I found myself digging out Diablo 2 and Baldur's Gate 2 to play.
Waiting on Diablo 3 and the new Monkey Island though
You know the first chapter of the new Monkey Island is out already, right?
I do believe that point and click is what really killed adventure games. They simplified the game play down to a handful of verbs (get, look at, push, pull, use) which meant that if you got stuck all you had to do is try every verb on every object you could click on (including inventory) until something happened. As a result the games became way too easy. Some games don't even bother with a handful of verbs and instead you just click on stuff and something happens or not.
I mean, I loved the new Sam & Max adventures from Telltale, but each episode is at most 3-4 hours long!
Of course, I don't know that struggling with an obtuse parser was necessarily better, because it's frustrating when you're not sure if what you just tried didn't work because it's wrong, or because you just phrased it incorrectly. Example:
Yes, all the time. One of the worst sites I've seen for it is this. It's actually a pretty useful site with some good information and good tools for searching for a specific part, but when you look at any of the parts from a search, they send your e-mail address to that company and that company often spams you.
It's block by our corporate overlords. Which is annoying, because I'm increasing coming across valid work-related websites that have their videos hosted by YouTube or other blocked video sites.
Who's this "buggy" that IE7 was proven to? And why after proving it to "buggy" wasn't it deployed. I would have thought proving it to somebody would be a good thing.
I agree. That number must be completely made up. Lot's of corporations still have IE 6 as their "corporate IT approved" browser. I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they don't work in anything else.
I think the best of these comes in the second downloadable content pack, "The Pitt". I'm about to spoiler this massively, so those who haven't yet played this, but think they might do so, look away now.
Okay, you might be right. I haven't played "The Pitt" because I've been waiting for the chance to buy it without dealing with Microsoft Points. And I didn't read the rest of you message because of the spoiler warning!
I was going to same the same thing. I'm pretty sure my Road Runner from TWC does this already. Of course, with bookmarks, the search box and address completion, I rarely type the wrong URL anymore.
These are partners that make computers sold to consumers. Intel and AMD make CPUs that go into those computers and (AFAIK) don't make computers themselves, which is why they are not on this list. Also, they have already announced that they will support both x86 and ARM processors.
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Well, exactly, but some of the later games had much more expressive parsers so it was less of a problem. But, the point is the puzzles were harder because you couldn't just say use X with Y (as you do in most point-and-clicks), you had to actually know how X and Y would be used together.
With the lack of decent games (especially those that are playable under linux or wine) recently, I found myself digging out Diablo 2 and Baldur's Gate 2 to play.
Waiting on Diablo 3 and the new Monkey Island though
You know the first chapter of the new Monkey Island is out already, right?
I do believe that point and click is what really killed adventure games. They simplified the game play down to a handful of verbs (get, look at, push, pull, use) which meant that if you got stuck all you had to do is try every verb on every object you could click on (including inventory) until something happened. As a result the games became way too easy. Some games don't even bother with a handful of verbs and instead you just click on stuff and something happens or not.
I mean, I loved the new Sam & Max adventures from Telltale, but each episode is at most 3-4 hours long!
Of course, I don't know that struggling with an obtuse parser was necessarily better, because it's frustrating when you're not sure if what you just tried didn't work because it's wrong, or because you just phrased it incorrectly. Example:
Tie rope to whatsit
- You can't do that
Attach rope to whatsit
- I don't know how to "attach" something
Use rope with whatsit
- You can't use the rope that way
Tie whatsit to rope
-You tie the whatsit with the rope
ARRRRGGGGG!!!!!
I remember Level 9, they made some great games. I remember Knight Orc quite well. It came with a novella that filled in the background to the story.
Yes, all the time. One of the worst sites I've seen for it is this. It's actually a pretty useful site with some good information and good tools for searching for a specific part, but when you look at any of the parts from a search, they send your e-mail address to that company and that company often spams you.
Hopefully they will look into tin-foil hat shills too!
It's block by our corporate overlords. Which is annoying, because I'm increasing coming across valid work-related websites that have their videos hosted by YouTube or other blocked video sites.
Your management is buggy? I think a lot of people have to deal with that.
Who's this "buggy" that IE7 was proven to? And why after proving it to "buggy" wasn't it deployed. I would have thought proving it to somebody would be a good thing.
I agree. That number must be completely made up. Lot's of corporations still have IE 6 as their "corporate IT approved" browser. I know we do because all our corporate web apps are such shit that they don't work in anything else.
The melting points of most types of rock are quite a bit higher than that.
Did you not read that part about how you can't see the surface because of the clouds? Yeah, that's an atmosphere, it's just not a very pleasant one.
Damn you Mekon!.
I think the best of these comes in the second downloadable content pack, "The Pitt". I'm about to spoiler this massively, so those who haven't yet played this, but think they might do so, look away now.
Okay, you might be right. I haven't played "The Pitt" because I've been waiting for the chance to buy it without dealing with Microsoft Points. And I didn't read the rest of you message because of the spoiler warning!
They're still working on deploying Vista ; )
You must of never owned a cat.
The flip side of that was that the game was so damn short it really wasn't that hard to finish it three times.
They have delayed BioShock 2 so they can actually put some interactive parts in this time. The first game was so much on rails it wasn't even funny.
If you want to see moral choices done properly, then turn to Fallout 3, not to Bioshock.
I agree with everything you said except this part ^.
Fallout 3 wasn't much better in terms on moral choices. If you want to see moral choices done properly, then turn to The Witcher.
But many eminent scientists have managed to reconcile their faith with their job. Einstein, for example.
Rubbish, a common myth perpetuated by deists.
This better emit a puff of smoke when it self-destructs or I'm not buying it. It doesn't matter if the smoke is only for show.
I was going to same the same thing. I'm pretty sure my Road Runner from TWC does this already. Of course, with bookmarks, the search box and address completion, I rarely type the wrong URL anymore.
These are partners that make computers sold to consumers. Intel and AMD make CPUs that go into those computers and (AFAIK) don't make computers themselves, which is why they are not on this list. Also, they have already announced that they will support both x86 and ARM processors.
And I can't spell ; (
Because theromodynamics != kinetics