Is it possible to at least configure things so that Microsoft doesn't vomit unwanted applications onto your system right on first install? I was livid when I installed a fresh clean copy and suddenly I had Candy Crush and a bunch of other useless apps that I didn't want, need, or ask for, just magically appear on my machine.
Wow, posting AC, being a flaming asshole, AND lying through your teeth. Hat trick!
Unless you are using Windows 10 Enterprise, *you cannot disable telemetry*. Period. Not through the GUI. They even disabled the functionality in group policy.
Oh, and if you ARE using Enterprise, and disable telemetry, then Windows update won't work properly either. So Microsoft has set things up so that you are flat out fucked no matter what you do.
Considering that they used Windows NT as the primary operating system for submarines armed with nuclear missiles, I would say that their ability at evaluating the technical qualifications of software leaves something to be desired.
I did see the article about interns supposedly making $70k. I call bullshit on that one. Maybe that's what happens if you're particularly lucky and manage to get a job at google or some VC backed startup with more money than sense, but there's no way in hell a lowly intern is going to make that kind of money with no experience at a normal company. I've been working in IT my whole life and I have *never* seen such a ridiculously generous salary for someone in an intern role.
Regarding university, are you saying you did a full course load AND high paying job? I'm absolutely calling bullshit on that, unless you sacrificed all your free time, abandoned any hope of ever having a full night sleep at that time, nor having a social life.
I'm sorry but your story sounds so idyllically successful that I simply cannot believe you. This is not the kind of thing that happens to an average person unless they happen to have some excellent connections and/or are a professional bullshit artist who exudes enough charisma to con their way into positions much loftier than their skill set deserves.
If a robot provides your food and a robot cleans your house and a robot provides your entertainment and a robot hauls you from place to place why do you need people?
Regarding #2, I'd love to know why, then, more people arn't up in arms over the 1% that is driving this whole mess. These people are basically paying themselves small fortunes to hardly do fuck all.
How much work does a plumber have to do, to equal the pay packet of a single speech by Hillary Clinton? A single CEO can get *fired* and walk away with a golden parachute worth more money than an entire town of people would see in their entire lifetimes.
But people are so blinded by the idea that, rather than being poor, they are simply temporarily not wealthy, so they think these ripoffs are the norm. UBI is going to become a necessary thing, and it's going to *have* to come from heavily taxing the rich. Either that, or there *will* be a civil war, and there may well be a modern equivalent of the French Revolution where the rich will be dragged from their homes, and lynched.
Except that, as many others have already commented, this is exactly what *didn't* happen. Or at least, there wasn't a 1:1 transference of labour from farming to manufacturing.
When manufacturing was offshored, what happened to all the factory workers? Some may have been able to move upward. The vast majority did not. Now these same people are basically working at less than minimum wage as walmart greeters.
And even then, they still had it better than we will now. Education costs have absolutely skyrocketed. If a person in their mid-life wants to go to university, they will most likely be dead before they've been able to pay off their school debt. And this is assuming they can even find a job because the job pool isn't growing at nearly the pace that the world population is.
The single biggest difference here is that we are in a position where *all* jobs are will be automated away. From Drivers to Doctors, *everything* is under threat. What do you hope to do when, even if it were possible to re-train to a more advanced field, *that* field has been automated away as well?
Of course an alternate path that is shown by history, is that corporation can also get large and subsume the role of government altogether such that employment in these mega-corps will become simply a new form a citizenship.
*raises hand* What history is this? The only time I have ever seen such things, have been in things like in the RPG Shadowrun, or movies like Robocop. And those were... less than ideal situations.
Not to mention that all the people talking about "those people" will actually *become* a member of "those people" when their jobs are axed.
It reminds me of people who romanticise medieval times and think, "Oh, how nice it would be to be a prince or a princess". Well guess what Mr or Mrs snowflake. If this was then, the likelihood that one would even BE a prince or princess is very very much not in one's favour.
It's the same situation now, except all these people are deluded into thinking that they would be the modern equivalent of royalty when in reality they are a frighteningly short step away from being down on all fours looking for "lovely bits of filth over here".
I could see this being a bill that Trump would want his friends in the house and senate to quickly get to work on writing out of existence. They will probably have lawyers preparing a case to bring to trial soon in hopes of getting a court to overturn it.
Why is this modded troll? This was exactly the first thing I thought of too. Trump has repeatedly and rabidly stated how he will persecute anyone that says bad things about him. The first amendment is already going to give him a lot of trouble in that regard.
This kind of legislation will just introduce another barrier for him, and therefore logically, he will want to get rid of it.
I'd love to see how they're going to accomplish that. People are brilliant in coming up with ways to circumvent things. Hell, kids apparently use the eggplant emoji as a surrogate penis.
So yeah... good luck with that. I wonder how many millions they're going to piss away *this time* only to find their efforts useless.
So, it's bad enough that Microsoft is forcing telemetry and updates on Home and Pro users, but if Enterprise users *don't* enable telemetry, then their updates won't function properly?
I'm guessing that the only reason they haven't been slapped with enough anti-trust lawsuits to suffocate under, is cause people are still able to stick with Windows 7 for the time being... Unless they've retroactively pulled the same crap update crap on Windows 7 like they did with telemetry?
You're missing my point. Okay, so I delayed the update. Then what? I apply the update now, instead of before, and the laptops get hosed now instead of earlier.
How do you predict that a major OS from the defacto OS vendor in the world, is going to put out a major update that trashes a bunch of computers that have been certified to run said OS?
Why are you assuming that the guy came to the US with the intention of carrying out a terrorist plot?
Is it that hard to imagine that maybe, just maybe, all the recent events might have convinced him that he was basically fucked, and that he wanted to go down fighting rather than crawl under a table and wait to be taken away for no reason?
Trumps is threatening to deport Muslims en masse, for no reason other than being muslim. If I was muslim I'd be scared shitless too.
The thing is, he may be free to say whatever he wants. But he is *not* free to avoid the consequences of what he says, and that's where the problem lies.
For example, thanks to one particular inarticulate garble of his, he practically invited an outright trade war with China.
If he was some nutter standing on a garbage can in a park, screaming obscenities at passers by, sure, whatever. But he's *not*. He's the leader of one of the most powerful nations on the planet, and a lot of people look to him as an icon to be emulated.
So when he says "foreigners are taking our jobs" the likely outcome is that anyone who isn't white ( because these same people don't understand that someone can be born in the country and still be Muslim or Hindu or whatever ) is now at significantly greater risk of being beaten or killed.
The other thing to consider is that, as POTUS, (please correct me if I'm wrong) he no longer has the right to free speech because he is now part of Government.
Regardless, seeing as how the US gov't is practically using the constitution as toilet paper for a while now... who knows what's gonna happen.
Like I said, it's was a limited experiment. We actually use Windows 7 Pro generally, but since Microsoft has decided to take away fundamental controls from every edition lower than Windows 10 Enterprise, I refused to experiment with anything lower.
But even if we had been using WSUS, what would that have helped? The Aniv Update would have still hosed the machines, no?
Well since we're resorting to ad hominem attacks, I'm going to accuse you of being a cliche conservative who has just as much a myopic view as the people you denegrate.
Newsflash for you... o/~I'm not even American.o/~ I follow a *variety* of news sources, particularly ones from Europe, where the news is a hell of a lot less partisian than the shit that gets served in the US.
And I know all about the bullshit with the Democratic party. Both with the DNC as well as the protestors. It's down right embarassing and shameful. But unlike you typical Americans who are unable to think about anything without resorting to a black/white, either/or you-bad/me-good mindset, everyone else in the world are looking upon you as the laughing stocks that you are.
What the rest of the world sees is that the Democrats are now hopelessly corrupt, but the Republicans are not only just as corrupt, but openly xenophobic and brazenly anti-intellectual as well. The only reason Democrats are even considered an option is because the Republicans are flat out worse. And Trump managed to tap perfectly into that I'm-ignorant-and-proud-of-it base with his word salad speeches.
You think we need "leftist sources" spreading supposed "lies" to stoke fears?
How god damn fucking stupid do you have to be to ignore the fact that Trump himself repeatedly said things like wanting to build a wall to block Mexico? Or wanting to deport all the Muslims? Or the fact that he pointedly did *not* denounce the support from a variety of white supremacist terrorist groups? Or wanting to instigate trade wars with China that are all but guaranteed to slam the US into a depression? Or the countless other things he said for the express purpose of riling up ignorant masses?
Or maybe we should talk about the cabinet Trump is assembling, full of extreme right-wing people who personify the worst that the right has to offer? Like a rabidly anti-gay VP? Or the "we should abolish public education" Betsy Devos for the Education Secretary?
There is real, honest to god fear out there, and it's a direct result of the hateful things that YOUR beloved party is saying and doing.
We were trialing a handful of Lenovo laptops running Windows 10 Enterprise. When the Anniversary update came, almost all of them got hosed. Most were recoverable after wasting a couple hours fiddling. One was so hosed that I gave up, reformatted the drive, and installed Windows 7 Pro.
It was that event that solidified my loathing for Windows 10. Microsoft cares more about siphoning your personal data now than putting out even a minimally viable product.
No, apparently I *don't* know that I'm lying, because from everything I've been reading, and in videos, etc, it's the truth.
His entire campaign rode on, and encouraged, rampant xenophobia. Mexicans. Muslims. Blacks. Basically anyone that isn't white and Christians are becoming more and more scared for their lives.
Unless your only sources of news are Fox and Brietbart, there is no way you could miss the escalating fear out there.
This counts as a pressing concern? That Trump has the power to send spam?
Never mind that he has stoking the worst bigotry and racial violence in North America in recent history. Never mind that he now has access to nookoolar weapons. Never mind that he's going to gut environmental regulations and oversight over the entire energy sector.
No! He can send us a text message! Everybody panic!
True, but then you're promising to only use the licenses for development purposes. MSDN subscriptions are not permitted for production (ie: end user) user.
The lowest Microsoft will permit you to go is Basic unless you are using Enterprise Edition. If you are using Home or Pro, you cannot shut off Telemetry, nor can you shut off updates.
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Is it possible to at least configure things so that Microsoft doesn't vomit unwanted applications onto your system right on first install? I was livid when I installed a fresh clean copy and suddenly I had Candy Crush and a bunch of other useless apps that I didn't want, need, or ask for, just magically appear on my machine.
Also, apparently if you ARE using Enterprise, and disable telemetry, then windows updates stop working properly.
Wow, posting AC, being a flaming asshole, AND lying through your teeth. Hat trick!
Unless you are using Windows 10 Enterprise, *you cannot disable telemetry*. Period. Not through the GUI. They even disabled the functionality in group policy.
Oh, and if you ARE using Enterprise, and disable telemetry, then Windows update won't work properly either. So Microsoft has set things up so that you are flat out fucked no matter what you do.
allies of the USA are okay with being spied upon
I'm not so sure about that...
Considering that they used Windows NT as the primary operating system for submarines armed with nuclear missiles, I would say that their ability at evaluating the technical qualifications of software leaves something to be desired.
I did see the article about interns supposedly making $70k. I call bullshit on that one. Maybe that's what happens if you're particularly lucky and manage to get a job at google or some VC backed startup with more money than sense, but there's no way in hell a lowly intern is going to make that kind of money with no experience at a normal company. I've been working in IT my whole life and I have *never* seen such a ridiculously generous salary for someone in an intern role.
Regarding university, are you saying you did a full course load AND high paying job? I'm absolutely calling bullshit on that, unless you sacrificed all your free time, abandoned any hope of ever having a full night sleep at that time, nor having a social life.
I'm sorry but your story sounds so idyllically successful that I simply cannot believe you. This is not the kind of thing that happens to an average person unless they happen to have some excellent connections and/or are a professional bullshit artist who exudes enough charisma to con their way into positions much loftier than their skill set deserves.
Considering your statement flies exactly 180 degrees from reality, I'm gonna stick a [citation needed] right here.
If a robot provides your food and a robot cleans your house and a robot provides your entertainment and a robot hauls you from place to place why do you need people?
Gladiators.
Regarding #2, I'd love to know why, then, more people arn't up in arms over the 1% that is driving this whole mess. These people are basically paying themselves small fortunes to hardly do fuck all.
How much work does a plumber have to do, to equal the pay packet of a single speech by Hillary Clinton? A single CEO can get *fired* and walk away with a golden parachute worth more money than an entire town of people would see in their entire lifetimes.
But people are so blinded by the idea that, rather than being poor, they are simply temporarily not wealthy, so they think these ripoffs are the norm. UBI is going to become a necessary thing, and it's going to *have* to come from heavily taxing the rich. Either that, or there *will* be a civil war, and there may well be a modern equivalent of the French Revolution where the rich will be dragged from their homes, and lynched.
Except that, as many others have already commented, this is exactly what *didn't* happen. Or at least, there wasn't a 1:1 transference of labour from farming to manufacturing.
When manufacturing was offshored, what happened to all the factory workers? Some may have been able to move upward. The vast majority did not. Now these same people are basically working at less than minimum wage as walmart greeters.
And even then, they still had it better than we will now. Education costs have absolutely skyrocketed. If a person in their mid-life wants to go to university, they will most likely be dead before they've been able to pay off their school debt. And this is assuming they can even find a job because the job pool isn't growing at nearly the pace that the world population is.
The single biggest difference here is that we are in a position where *all* jobs are will be automated away. From Drivers to Doctors, *everything* is under threat. What do you hope to do when, even if it were possible to re-train to a more advanced field, *that* field has been automated away as well?
Of course an alternate path that is shown by history, is that corporation can also get large and subsume the role of government altogether such that employment in these mega-corps will become simply a new form a citizenship.
*raises hand* What history is this? The only time I have ever seen such things, have been in things like in the RPG Shadowrun, or movies like Robocop. And those were... less than ideal situations.
Not to mention that all the people talking about "those people" will actually *become* a member of "those people" when their jobs are axed.
It reminds me of people who romanticise medieval times and think, "Oh, how nice it would be to be a prince or a princess". Well guess what Mr or Mrs snowflake. If this was then, the likelihood that one would even BE a prince or princess is very very much not in one's favour.
It's the same situation now, except all these people are deluded into thinking that they would be the modern equivalent of royalty when in reality they are a frighteningly short step away from being down on all fours looking for "lovely bits of filth over here".
I could see this being a bill that Trump would want his friends in the house and senate to quickly get to work on writing out of existence. They will probably have lawyers preparing a case to bring to trial soon in hopes of getting a court to overturn it.
Why is this modded troll? This was exactly the first thing I thought of too. Trump has repeatedly and rabidly stated how he will persecute anyone that says bad things about him. The first amendment is already going to give him a lot of trouble in that regard.
This kind of legislation will just introduce another barrier for him, and therefore logically, he will want to get rid of it.
I'd love to see how they're going to accomplish that. People are brilliant in coming up with ways to circumvent things. Hell, kids apparently use the eggplant emoji as a surrogate penis.
So yeah... good luck with that. I wonder how many millions they're going to piss away *this time* only to find their efforts useless.
So, it's bad enough that Microsoft is forcing telemetry and updates on Home and Pro users, but if Enterprise users *don't* enable telemetry, then their updates won't function properly?
I'm guessing that the only reason they haven't been slapped with enough anti-trust lawsuits to suffocate under, is cause people are still able to stick with Windows 7 for the time being... Unless they've retroactively pulled the same crap update crap on Windows 7 like they did with telemetry?
You're missing my point. Okay, so I delayed the update. Then what? I apply the update now, instead of before, and the laptops get hosed now instead of earlier.
How do you predict that a major OS from the defacto OS vendor in the world, is going to put out a major update that trashes a bunch of computers that have been certified to run said OS?
Why are you assuming that the guy came to the US with the intention of carrying out a terrorist plot?
Is it that hard to imagine that maybe, just maybe, all the recent events might have convinced him that he was basically fucked, and that he wanted to go down fighting rather than crawl under a table and wait to be taken away for no reason?
Trumps is threatening to deport Muslims en masse, for no reason other than being muslim. If I was muslim I'd be scared shitless too.
The thing is, he may be free to say whatever he wants. But he is *not* free to avoid the consequences of what he says, and that's where the problem lies.
For example, thanks to one particular inarticulate garble of his, he practically invited an outright trade war with China.
If he was some nutter standing on a garbage can in a park, screaming obscenities at passers by, sure, whatever. But he's *not*. He's the leader of one of the most powerful nations on the planet, and a lot of people look to him as an icon to be emulated.
So when he says "foreigners are taking our jobs" the likely outcome is that anyone who isn't white ( because these same people don't understand that someone can be born in the country and still be Muslim or Hindu or whatever ) is now at significantly greater risk of being beaten or killed.
The other thing to consider is that, as POTUS, (please correct me if I'm wrong) he no longer has the right to free speech because he is now part of Government.
Regardless, seeing as how the US gov't is practically using the constitution as toilet paper for a while now... who knows what's gonna happen.
Like I said, it's was a limited experiment. We actually use Windows 7 Pro generally, but since Microsoft has decided to take away fundamental controls from every edition lower than Windows 10 Enterprise, I refused to experiment with anything lower.
But even if we had been using WSUS, what would that have helped? The Aniv Update would have still hosed the machines, no?
Well since we're resorting to ad hominem attacks, I'm going to accuse you of being a cliche conservative who has just as much a myopic view as the people you denegrate.
Newsflash for you... o/~I'm not even American.o/~ I follow a *variety* of news sources, particularly ones from Europe, where the news is a hell of a lot less partisian than the shit that gets served in the US.
And I know all about the bullshit with the Democratic party. Both with the DNC as well as the protestors. It's down right embarassing and shameful. But unlike you typical Americans who are unable to think about anything without resorting to a black/white, either/or you-bad/me-good mindset, everyone else in the world are looking upon you as the laughing stocks that you are.
What the rest of the world sees is that the Democrats are now hopelessly corrupt, but the Republicans are not only just as corrupt, but openly xenophobic and brazenly anti-intellectual as well. The only reason Democrats are even considered an option is because the Republicans are flat out worse. And Trump managed to tap perfectly into that I'm-ignorant-and-proud-of-it base with his word salad speeches.
You think we need "leftist sources" spreading supposed "lies" to stoke fears?
How god damn fucking stupid do you have to be to ignore the fact that Trump himself repeatedly said things like wanting to build a wall to block Mexico? Or wanting to deport all the Muslims? Or the fact that he pointedly did *not* denounce the support from a variety of white supremacist terrorist groups? Or wanting to instigate trade wars with China that are all but guaranteed to slam the US into a depression? Or the countless other things he said for the express purpose of riling up ignorant masses?
Or maybe we should talk about the cabinet Trump is assembling, full of extreme right-wing people who personify the worst that the right has to offer? Like a rabidly anti-gay VP? Or the "we should abolish public education" Betsy Devos for the Education Secretary?
There is real, honest to god fear out there, and it's a direct result of the hateful things that YOUR beloved party is saying and doing.
We were trialing a handful of Lenovo laptops running Windows 10 Enterprise. When the Anniversary update came, almost all of them got hosed. Most were recoverable after wasting a couple hours fiddling. One was so hosed that I gave up, reformatted the drive, and installed Windows 7 Pro.
It was that event that solidified my loathing for Windows 10. Microsoft cares more about siphoning your personal data now than putting out even a minimally viable product.
No, apparently I *don't* know that I'm lying, because from everything I've been reading, and in videos, etc, it's the truth.
His entire campaign rode on, and encouraged, rampant xenophobia. Mexicans. Muslims. Blacks. Basically anyone that isn't white and Christians are becoming more and more scared for their lives.
Unless your only sources of news are Fox and Brietbart, there is no way you could miss the escalating fear out there.
This counts as a pressing concern? That Trump has the power to send spam?
Never mind that he has stoking the worst bigotry and racial violence in North America in recent history. Never mind that he now has access to nookoolar weapons. Never mind that he's going to gut environmental regulations and oversight over the entire energy sector.
No! He can send us a text message! Everybody panic!
Is there an emoji for eyeroll?
True, but then you're promising to only use the licenses for development purposes. MSDN subscriptions are not permitted for production (ie: end user) user.
The lowest Microsoft will permit you to go is Basic unless you are using Enterprise Edition. If you are using Home or Pro, you cannot shut off Telemetry, nor can you shut off updates.