I thought Uber was an internet service company that contracts driving out to private contractors. What do they need self-driving cars far?
I mean, it's obvious that Uber is just trying to bullshit everyone, but don't companies like this usually rely on others to negate their arguments for them?
This shouldn't be a surprise. I mean, it's called Landfill Android for a reason. Landfills are riddled with god-knows what diseases. These devices are simply extending the metaphor.
The fact that you have pushed me into the "beloved Surface Pro 4" camp is all I need to know that you've drunk the kool aid so hard that you are nothing more than conservative religious zealot. You can't even mentally handle the fact that I might be an Apple user myself, can you?
I've been using Macs almost exclusively for over a decade, you nutbar. My current machine is a MBP 2011 because everything they've put out since has been getting less and less functional.
Maybe you should wipe the rabid foam from your mouth and push your eyeballs back into your skull, and realize that Apple isn't the second coming of Jesus.
Maybe I'm an idiot but at least I can actually think for myself instead of having some bizarre codependency disorder with a publicly-traded company who doesn't actually give a flying fuck about you.
Except that you forgot the SD card reader ($70? WTF for?) , as well as dongles for VGA, DVI, and ethernet. I use all these ports on a semi-regular basis.
Alternatively, I can wait for someone to put out a TB3 port replicator that, alone, costs 300 and as far as I can tell isn't portable.
You can stamp your feet and accuse people of being retarded idiots as much as you want. But that doesn't change the reality of the situation, which is that a large portion of Apple customers feel like they were just slapped in the face. Customer devotion is Apple's primary currency, and that currency just took a dump so hard you'd think Tim Cook deep throated a dozen Taco Bell chalupas.
I love how you're accusing people of being "idiots" and "retarded" when you're the one who sees invisible ports that don't exist.
FireWire 800 - Not there Gigabit Ethernet - Not there mini DisplayPort - Where? SD Card reader - Nada 5 USB 3.1 gen 1 ports? - Nope
So I have to ask... what crack are you smoking, because there most certainly isn't *anything* other than a bunch of external bus ports that are otherwise useless without having to spend hundreds of dollars on adapters.
And then... and then... Okay, I'm laughing now... you actually point out a $300 port replicator, just to regain the ports that Apple took away? A Three. Hundred. Dollar. Port Replicator. Because dropping $3000 on a grossly under-equipped laptop wasn't enough of an insult?
Apparently *you* don't get it, let this idiot spell it out for you: I don't give a flying fuck if a single I/O port can let me transfer all the data generated by the Large Hadron Collider in under a minute. I DO care that I'm at someone's house, and they give me something on a USB key but I can't access it without pulling out my Sports Billy bag of dongles. I DO care that I can't connect to a presentation TV or projector without pulling out my Sports Billy bag of dongles. Or transfer photos from my camera. Or connect to a LAN via hardwire because wifi is (for whatever reason) unavailable/unusable (because that does actually happen, irregardless of the dream world you seem to live in). And heaven forbid I forget said Sports Billy bag, cause now I'm using a $3000 chromebook.
Almost *every* *single* real-world use-case has suddenly because an unnecessary hassle when before there was no issue. This is the hardware equivalent of when they switched from PowerPC to Intel, but *without* including Rosetta.
If Apple had left the HDMI port and just one lousy USB 3.1 port, there wouldn't be this uproar. If they had thrown some dongles into the box so people could hit the ground running with their existing stuff, people would eyeroll but there wouldn't be this uproar. But no, they had to take away ALL previous ports with no alternative, forcing people to jump through hoops and spend even more money to regain the shortfall. And now a supposed "portable" computer requires you to carry around a small bundle of adapters, like a new mother carrying a backpack of sundries for her baby. I was more than a little pissed off when they removed
I mean, when they released the iPhone 7, they were at least considerate enough to throw in a lightning to headphone adapter.
Like Communism, this sounds great in practise but reality says differently. I wouldn't trust it worth a damn because Microsoft has a fantastic track record of hosing people's machines with updates.
Heck, a recent update killed network access for countless people in the UK because they somehow managed to botch DHCP.
Well, this was before Apple slashed the prices on their adapters after the uproar. I can probably get away with just $200-250 now.
But it's hardly unreasonable: -DVI adapter -HDMI adapter -VGA adapter -ethernet adapter -either multiple USB-C->USB adapters or a USB-C hub/port replicator -USB-C SD card reader
You can obviously save money by alternate brands, etc, but if you stuck with the "official" way that Apple wants you to do, the cost adds up really fast.
You know what? You're a classic abusive boyfriend that can't handle being wrong, so you prefer to gaslight people instead of accepting that maybe a mistake was made somewhere.
I've already left a more technical comment elsewhere so I'm not going to re-iterate, but I felt compelled to comment on this because I was just so awe-struck by your breathtaking arrogance.
Just because I don't deep throat Apple's reality distortion field doesn't mean "I don't get it". I've been using Apple products for a long time now, for the simple fact that for me, they do the job better than any competing product. But circumstances have changed.
But the raw facts are that Apple have all but abandoned their desktop lines, and have put out a laptop that is so myopically designed that they've all but given the middle finger to a significant portion of their customer base.
If you just skim through the various comments, you will see countless pissed off people who are either sticking with what they have, or are preferentially buying previous gen hardware when they have to. I have colleagues who have been utter die-hard apple fans for years, and they are saying the same thing I am.
If you really think that this many people "Don't get it", maybe you need to take a step back and ask yourself if maybe YOU'RE the one who "Doesn't get it".
No I haven't, because it's not designed for the real world. You know, the one where Ethernet cables, and USB 2/3.0 devices, HDMI, and SD Cards still exist and won't be going away for at least a decade.
This isn't like parallel, serial or SCSI ports whose days were very clearly numbered when Apple cut them off. Losing access to floppies was annoying but still grudgingly inevitable. But USB? There is no excuse for removing those. HDMI? It's still being actively developed! Their new MBP will be obsolete long before HDMI is.
Apple wants to make "Adapter world" the new normal cause they know they can make a fortune on the things. Just look at their long history of mangled DVI adapters. Micro DVI, Mini DVI, mini HDMI, mini DP... Apple has a dongle addiction something fierce, and now they've gone too far.
No, I have *every* right to dismiss it, just as the overwhelming majority of tech people are dismissing it. Whoever signed off on the design of the latest MBP is either a moron, or a money-grubbing MBA looking to capitalize on accessory profits, or both.
But that's the thing... a Wintel laptop *can* suffice, but you have to set it up before it is. For example, cygwin is great and all, but it doesn't hold a candle to an honest-to-god bash prompt.
Using a Mac is basically what I believe using Linux *should* be like. It (for the most part) just works. The OS balances a perfect line between being drop-dead easy for people who arn't technically inclined, while being just a couple settings away from giving you all the power and control you could want. (And by control, I don't mean being able to customize the OS to whatever suits your fancy at the time. Being able to change your mouse cursor doesn't make you more productive).
They are, quite plainly, more reliable, and more predictable to use than any Windows machine ever. I moved my parents to Macs, my support calls went from almost nightly, to monthly.
Which is why I'm absolutely, utterly, livid that Apple is pulling these shenanigans. They had a platform that I *enjoyed* using, and they are doing their damndest to sabotage all that in an effort to maximize their already ludicrous profits.
Except that affluent idiots (unless you really did mean effluent) arn't the only target market. A huge portion of the market goes to sysadmins, developers, etc, who use the machines for real work.
Those people consider the latest MBP to be a ridiculous pile of horse shit. I mean, Apple's lineup has been becoming more and more of a joke as the years go on, but they seem to be now at the 'lets just take as much piss as we can". I use a mac, and know a number of others who use Macs, because they provide the best of both worlds between windows and linux for the work that we do. The slight price premium was worth it for the dramatically lower number of headaches and bullshit one had to deal with.
Unfortunately, that's no longer the case. It's bad enough that the feature/price ratio has gotten significantly worse than it used to be. But now the products are just a fucking joke. Before they oh so generously cut the price on their dongles, you could easily spend $400-$500 in dongles just to reach parity with what you could do before. And of course, you are now required to carry around a dead octopus worth of cables to cover all the possible situations you may need.
This was fine when it was just the Air. That's what the Air was designed for. But pulling this idiocy on a laptop that is specifically meant for professionals? Someone needs to dig up Steve Job's coffin and repeatedly hit Tim Cook with it.
Given the number of strokes, heart attacks, and alcohol overdoses that occurred after the US election results, it makes sense that the yearly average was badly skewed.
Do you make it a habit of trolling my posts or something? You know darn well why someone would want to use Enterprise rather Pro or, heaven forbid, that abortion they call Home edition.
I was actually wondering this when the iphone 7 came out. Apple literature kept saying "custom bluetooth chip" which, to me, is code for "don't touch it with a 10 foot pole". But if it really is just pre-released BT5 (which will be presumably be updated with new firmware), then the iphone 7 suddenly becomes a whole lot more attractive.
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I thought Uber was an internet service company that contracts driving out to private contractors. What do they need self-driving cars far?
I mean, it's obvious that Uber is just trying to bullshit everyone, but don't companies like this usually rely on others to negate their arguments for them?
Do they really need that many janitors? I mean, it's not as if they're going to hire tech people. IBM has already shoved most of those offshore.
Can't fix it? Hide it!
Love to hear what the Apple apologists have to say about this move. Hey FakeTimCook! Do we "not get" this either? Do we not have enough courage?
I mean, this is China. They just copy the talent they already have. :)
*ducks and runs*
This shouldn't be a surprise. I mean, it's called Landfill Android for a reason. Landfills are riddled with god-knows what diseases. These devices are simply extending the metaphor.
The fact that you have pushed me into the "beloved Surface Pro 4" camp is all I need to know that you've drunk the kool aid so hard that you are nothing more than conservative religious zealot. You can't even mentally handle the fact that I might be an Apple user myself, can you?
I've been using Macs almost exclusively for over a decade, you nutbar. My current machine is a MBP 2011 because everything they've put out since has been getting less and less functional.
Maybe you should wipe the rabid foam from your mouth and push your eyeballs back into your skull, and realize that Apple isn't the second coming of Jesus.
Maybe I'm an idiot but at least I can actually think for myself instead of having some bizarre codependency disorder with a publicly-traded company who doesn't actually give a flying fuck about you.
Except that you forgot the SD card reader ($70? WTF for?) , as well as dongles for VGA, DVI, and ethernet. I use all these ports on a semi-regular basis.
Alternatively, I can wait for someone to put out a TB3 port replicator that, alone, costs 300 and as far as I can tell isn't portable.
Right, and I can grudgingly accept that. Ditto with ethernet, as annoying as it is.
But HDMI? USB? An SD Card slot? Mini-DP port? There was plenty of room for those things last year, and the new model isn't that much thinner.
You can stamp your feet and accuse people of being retarded idiots as much as you want. But that doesn't change the reality of the situation, which is that a large portion of Apple customers feel like they were just slapped in the face. Customer devotion is Apple's primary currency, and that currency just took a dump so hard you'd think Tim Cook deep throated a dozen Taco Bell chalupas.
I love how you're accusing people of being "idiots" and "retarded" when you're the one who sees invisible ports that don't exist.
FireWire 800 - Not there
Gigabit Ethernet - Not there
mini DisplayPort - Where?
SD Card reader - Nada
5 USB 3.1 gen 1 ports? - Nope
So I have to ask... what crack are you smoking, because there most certainly isn't *anything* other than a bunch of external bus ports that are otherwise useless without having to spend hundreds of dollars on adapters.
And then... and then... Okay, I'm laughing now... you actually point out a $300 port replicator, just to regain the ports that Apple took away? A Three. Hundred. Dollar. Port Replicator. Because dropping $3000 on a grossly under-equipped laptop wasn't enough of an insult?
Apparently *you* don't get it, let this idiot spell it out for you: I don't give a flying fuck if a single I/O port can let me transfer all the data generated by the Large Hadron Collider in under a minute. I DO care that I'm at someone's house, and they give me something on a USB key but I can't access it without pulling out my Sports Billy bag of dongles. I DO care that I can't connect to a presentation TV or projector without pulling out my Sports Billy bag of dongles. Or transfer photos from my camera. Or connect to a LAN via hardwire because wifi is (for whatever reason) unavailable/unusable (because that does actually happen, irregardless of the dream world you seem to live in). And heaven forbid I forget said Sports Billy bag, cause now I'm using a $3000 chromebook.
Almost *every* *single* real-world use-case has suddenly because an unnecessary hassle when before there was no issue. This is the hardware equivalent of when they switched from PowerPC to Intel, but *without* including Rosetta.
If Apple had left the HDMI port and just one lousy USB 3.1 port, there wouldn't be this uproar. If they had thrown some dongles into the box so people could hit the ground running with their existing stuff, people would eyeroll but there wouldn't be this uproar. But no, they had to take away ALL previous ports with no alternative, forcing people to jump through hoops and spend even more money to regain the shortfall. And now a supposed "portable" computer requires you to carry around a small bundle of adapters, like a new mother carrying a backpack of sundries for her baby. I was more than a little pissed off when they removed
I mean, when they released the iPhone 7, they were at least considerate enough to throw in a lightning to headphone adapter.
Like Communism, this sounds great in practise but reality says differently. I wouldn't trust it worth a damn because Microsoft has a fantastic track record of hosing people's machines with updates.
Heck, a recent update killed network access for countless people in the UK because they somehow managed to botch DHCP.
Well, this was before Apple slashed the prices on their adapters after the uproar. I can probably get away with just $200-250 now.
But it's hardly unreasonable:
-DVI adapter
-HDMI adapter
-VGA adapter
-ethernet adapter
-either multiple USB-C->USB adapters or a USB-C hub/port replicator
-USB-C SD card reader
You can obviously save money by alternate brands, etc, but if you stuck with the "official" way that Apple wants you to do, the cost adds up really fast.
You know what? You're a classic abusive boyfriend that can't handle being wrong, so you prefer to gaslight people instead of accepting that maybe a mistake was made somewhere.
I've already left a more technical comment elsewhere so I'm not going to re-iterate, but I felt compelled to comment on this because I was just so awe-struck by your breathtaking arrogance.
Just because I don't deep throat Apple's reality distortion field doesn't mean "I don't get it". I've been using Apple products for a long time now, for the simple fact that for me, they do the job better than any competing product. But circumstances have changed.
But the raw facts are that Apple have all but abandoned their desktop lines, and have put out a laptop that is so myopically designed that they've all but given the middle finger to a significant portion of their customer base.
If you just skim through the various comments, you will see countless pissed off people who are either sticking with what they have, or are preferentially buying previous gen hardware when they have to. I have colleagues who have been utter die-hard apple fans for years, and they are saying the same thing I am.
If you really think that this many people "Don't get it", maybe you need to take a step back and ask yourself if maybe YOU'RE the one who "Doesn't get it".
No I haven't, because it's not designed for the real world. You know, the one where Ethernet cables, and USB 2/3.0 devices, HDMI, and SD Cards still exist and won't be going away for at least a decade.
This isn't like parallel, serial or SCSI ports whose days were very clearly numbered when Apple cut them off. Losing access to floppies was annoying but still grudgingly inevitable. But USB? There is no excuse for removing those. HDMI? It's still being actively developed! Their new MBP will be obsolete long before HDMI is.
Apple wants to make "Adapter world" the new normal cause they know they can make a fortune on the things. Just look at their long history of mangled DVI adapters. Micro DVI, Mini DVI, mini HDMI, mini DP... Apple has a dongle addiction something fierce, and now they've gone too far.
No, I have *every* right to dismiss it, just as the overwhelming majority of tech people are dismissing it. Whoever signed off on the design of the latest MBP is either a moron, or a money-grubbing MBA looking to capitalize on accessory profits, or both.
But that's the thing... a Wintel laptop *can* suffice, but you have to set it up before it is. For example, cygwin is great and all, but it doesn't hold a candle to an honest-to-god bash prompt.
Using a Mac is basically what I believe using Linux *should* be like. It (for the most part) just works. The OS balances a perfect line between being drop-dead easy for people who arn't technically inclined, while being just a couple settings away from giving you all the power and control you could want. (And by control, I don't mean being able to customize the OS to whatever suits your fancy at the time. Being able to change your mouse cursor doesn't make you more productive).
They are, quite plainly, more reliable, and more predictable to use than any Windows machine ever. I moved my parents to Macs, my support calls went from almost nightly, to monthly.
Which is why I'm absolutely, utterly, livid that Apple is pulling these shenanigans. They had a platform that I *enjoyed* using, and they are doing their damndest to sabotage all that in an effort to maximize their already ludicrous profits.
I'll try. I'm not a Starbucks goer myself, so I only see these things in passing while rushing around.
Any pointers on how I can take photos of random people without looking like a creeper? :P
Actually, they were BYOD devices. At this point they're mostly a curiosity, but they're certainly interesting.
To be fair, I actually *have* started seeing them in Coffee Shops, and a few of our employees have also started bringing them in.
Except that affluent idiots (unless you really did mean effluent) arn't the only target market. A huge portion of the market goes to sysadmins, developers, etc, who use the machines for real work.
Those people consider the latest MBP to be a ridiculous pile of horse shit. I mean, Apple's lineup has been becoming more and more of a joke as the years go on, but they seem to be now at the 'lets just take as much piss as we can". I use a mac, and know a number of others who use Macs, because they provide the best of both worlds between windows and linux for the work that we do. The slight price premium was worth it for the dramatically lower number of headaches and bullshit one had to deal with.
Unfortunately, that's no longer the case. It's bad enough that the feature/price ratio has gotten significantly worse than it used to be. But now the products are just a fucking joke. Before they oh so generously cut the price on their dongles, you could easily spend $400-$500 in dongles just to reach parity with what you could do before. And of course, you are now required to carry around a dead octopus worth of cables to cover all the possible situations you may need.
This was fine when it was just the Air. That's what the Air was designed for. But pulling this idiocy on a laptop that is specifically meant for professionals? Someone needs to dig up Steve Job's coffin and repeatedly hit Tim Cook with it.
Amazon is basically charging $90 to watch a show. Who in their right mind would do that?
It will give job security to the TSA for all the extra screening they will need to do.
Also, don't pay attention to the sudden jump in occurrences of mid-flight manslaughter.
Given the number of strokes, heart attacks, and alcohol overdoses that occurred after the US election results, it makes sense that the yearly average was badly skewed.
Figures.
Hardly. Windows NT was a bug-ridden mess.
I suggest google searching for news about how their systems went down due to bugs and crashes.
Do you make it a habit of trolling my posts or something? You know darn well why someone would want to use Enterprise rather Pro or, heaven forbid, that abortion they call Home edition.
I was actually wondering this when the iphone 7 came out. Apple literature kept saying "custom bluetooth chip" which, to me, is code for "don't touch it with a 10 foot pole". But if it really is just pre-released BT5 (which will be presumably be updated with new firmware), then the iphone 7 suddenly becomes a whole lot more attractive.