according to Via, a 42-U rack with 168 processors would draw about 2.5 kilowatts, or about as much power as two hair dryers. This also looks like the basis for a nice car computer.
i knew american SUV's were getting overly large, but REALLY NOW.
we need a lot better directory services and load sharing to accomplish this effectively.
linking six people to single computer works ok, but some week everyone's going to be smashing the cpu like mad, just out of chance.
we need dragonflybsd like process migration & single-system-imaging to enable the "computing resources" phenomena to really grow. six computers with six people per computer may be a problem, but six computers with thirty six users is a far more stable statistically speaking.
there's a million other benefits to the grid. i hate how the grid buzzword has been usurped by people trying to sell cpu cycles. i want my general-purpose resource sharing grid damn it.
i found my first social distortion cd in a dingy corner of the mall. literally, just laying there.
it looked like someone had stomped on the case and left it there for dead. worked fine, and was a wonderful introduction. put it in a new jewel case and was like new. i've been a fan ever since.
false alarm, there's still hordes of sharp young'uns beating down the door trying to replace your lazy ass.
dont go into the game industry expecting a nice cushy job. expect hell, like fending off the fifth of all computer science students who would probably kill to get a gaming industry job.
definately an exagguration, but i imagine google and pixar to be the only similarly employer-driven markets out there.
music plasma saved my life! it shows a graphical map of artists and how they connect to other artists (in way of "genre"). Its some entirely arbitrary linkage and the breadth isnt that great, but its supposedly all based on user inputs.
i find audioscrobbler to be too over-run by the songs everyone has on their playlist. it doesnt really help you discern genre's, which is what is so great about musicplasma. its much more directly peer to peer, but somewhat less useful. you pretty much have to find well done groups, but even well done groups rarely play the music in the group.
i have a phase change water cooling system designed for photo baths. its got a huge insulted resivour and a heat exchanger.
i had to axe the program after our house electricity bill kept climbing, sans the project even getting off the ground.
phase change is one of the most expensive prospects out there. sure its badass cool, but you might as well spend the money on a faster chip and not have to pay again and again for your speed (in electricity bills).
phase change has one and only one use as far as I can see (well, aside from those of us without metered electricity). i think phase change would rule in an office environment.
as cpu's keep getting hotter, we're going to have to water cool. centralized phase change computer cooling begins to make sense.
i dream of working in a office with no white noise. water cooling seems like a fine first step for doing so. of course, we'd have to use those silly projection keyboard things, quieter AC systems and do half a million other things to keep noise down, but most office i've been to, computer noise is one of the largest factors.
There's a couple major problems with fluorescents, a lot of which have been pointed out. But I havent seen my #1 beef: 1) Its impossible to find dimmable fluorescents.
They used to make em, a reasonable premium, but they're completely AWOL now.
Other grievances: 2) 60 hz DEATH TO EYES magical powers 3) hideous spectrum: what is it, like 3 different narrowband peaks?
Can someone recommend a dimmable full spectrum non-flickering fluorescent? cause that'd f'ing rock.
i just did a 180 mile round trip to the ski resort wednesday and did a little experiment. i drove 62 mph the entire way (plus or minus, usually minus going uphill). my `84 Volvo wagon got an astounding 28 mpg! normally I get about 21 mpg, but normally i'm driving at least 75. i never accelerate hard at all, to conserve fuel.
the extra 13 mph would've saved me ~20 minutes. instead i saved over two gallons of gas (180/28=6.4 180/21=8.5).
you get diminishing returns for speeding. you have to travel twice as fast to get half the time. there's a very significant exponential decay in terms of time savings.
i think i'm going to slow down a little. i'm wondering how different the situation is for cars with good engines.
i think the other key reason is that xmlhttprequest is exceedingly good at being a lightweight asyncronous system. java, you have to code a fraking interface, with "ajax" you have an interface, you're just manipulating elements in the interface.
the problem with java is it integrates like crap into the web. the applet is not exactly the most seamless device ever made.
ecmascript works with what's already there. its not easy, but google is proving that it can be done with blissful results. the good web developers have known about xmlhttprequest for years. and have been screaming at opera to hurry the fsck up and include the damned thing already.
i find the statement "i much rather write something in JAva and know it will almost always work on different platforms" laughable, if only because most java developers seem unable to deploy their applications to work on any browsers.
"[MAME defacto] have also clearly stated that [MAME] is not to be used for commercial gains." - This Asshat.
Like selling arcade machines?
Whether the software is legal or not, this guy is still selling machines preloaded with MAME for commercial games. MAME doesnt say "mame is not to be sold for commercial games with illegal roms," they say "not to be sold for commercial gains," period.
I see his point, but he's still an asshat. You cant go around registering trademarks which you have no grounds for ownership of and not expect people to get pissed off. Beyond that though, dont go lording around virtue and morality when you yourself are in strict violation of the same laws, if not legally, ethically. I understand that there is absolutely zero legal obligation to obey the MAME developers "not for gains restriction", hell, you even seem to be a reasonable case for not legalizing the not-for-gains restriction. but you have to be farking kidding if you expect to be allowed to not only break the ethical laws, but to then turn around and claim you are now the legal authority of MAME.
Your marginal hypocracy is far outshaddowed by your extreme stupidity and asshatedness. Please go back to running what could be a good buisness quietly and without incidence.
you can find and afford solitude. thats the benefit of the boondocks, its something which is just not possible in the city. cost of living and all that, meh, details compared to a lifestyle.
i think we're slashdotting the google map servers with The Dalles, Oregon on them. in other news, my first official complaint about the google map server is there's no scale. LAME.
driving directions are 82 miles, which is a little over comfortably close enough range to portland, particularly when route 84 is about to get a heckuva lot busier. on the plus side you should be pretty far out of the city lights effect.
my real question is what is the primary focus of this location? just another datacenter, or some R&D too?
pci express allows anyone to run multiple high speed video cards in a single system. this is the "quad mode" of which people speak, using four monitors. the cards dont even have to be from the same vendor for this to work. this is nothing new: it could be done with PCI too, its just that PCI had very poor performance. this has nothing to do with SLI except for nvidia branding their multi-slot motherboards SLI.
SLI is a mode where one card has no outputs and is slaved to the other card to provide a performance benefit.
It is entirely up to the drivers whether you can run SLI in quad mode. there's three basic ways this could be done: 1) 3+4th displays have to power down 2) 3+4 displays loose all acceleration 3) SLI is a special hack which allows dualheaded acceleration to occur between video cards to allow 4 card display of something like doom3 automagically. no 4 card performance benefit, but you can quadhead render games like you could dualhead. 4) all render is done on some unified display bridged by SLI your winamp plugin can run on 3/4 while you play doom on 1 with all renderings being accelerated by all cards. yeah frigging right, too cool to be real.
sadly its going to take these idiot manufacturers another 18 months to realize they can start maddly throwing more PCI expresses onto systems with HyperTransport with little effort. 4 real graphics cards would be sweet, i could finally replace these Matrox Millenium II's.
unforutnately nvidia's sli uses some internal connector in addition to PCI express to achieve SLI. this pretty much axes all hopes of running doom on 8 monitors, even if you can run accelerated quadhead mode.
from my understanding, one of the main advantages of dual head technology is that you can play a video and have it span multiple monitors.
the $64k question: if you're running sli and have quad display mode, do you have the capability to span video between the two different cards?
i've had less than stellar luck achieving the same results with my computer bank-full-oh-pci cards, although it could purely be a PCI/bandwidth issue. with windows there's overlay issues that the new VMR-9 was supposed to address but my Matrox II's are not VMR-9 capable; i believe there is some hardware requirement.
the Geforce 4200 was far faster than the 5200. The 5200 was criminally bad. It has 4 pixel pipeliens which could do 1 texture/pass, whereas the 4200 was 4/2. you cannot play anything modern on a 5200. fsck, i my 4200 died a couple months ago & i need a video card.
I've been a die hard nvidia fan since the geforce series, but the first thing I do when mentioning nvidia is spend 30 minutes badmouthing the 5200. nVidia should be ASHAMED for such a piece of junk.
Dont get a 5200. the 4400's are cheap and dead center between the 4200 and 4600. else step up and get a 6200. If you really want a 5200, get a 440 MX, its almost the same thing.
just to be fair here given my lavish opera praise:
Opera sucks because they obstinately refuse to move anywhere towards the so called "DHTML" bandwagon. allegedly they finally buckled and are beginning to offer some sort of XmlHttpRequest functionality of some sort, but they're pretty much four years behind technology wise.
those fancy gmail & google suggestion things? hell no, Opera lacks the engine under the hood to drive them.
for once i can say someone is being an absolute tool for being so beligerant about following the standards. mor-ons! *sigh*, all i want is my perfect browser.
We all love Firefox, is it SO hard to accept it's not perfect? Jeeze.
I dont. Not because it doesnt render fast, but because it doesnt respond fast.
Sure Opera whups ass in these tests, but thats not where it excels most. These test completely neglect how badly opera really tromps: it excels most at being responsive no matter how much load you're placing on it. The History test is the best test they've got in this vague vinicnity, and you'll notice opera is usually 3-4x better than the competition, no exagguration.
For slower computers, this makes all the difference. Opera remains responsive and sharp, even under load.
I find it pathetic Firefox is so heniously unresponsive. It feels like it was written without any knowledge of callbacks/asyncronous code, &C. Rendering fast is no good if it has to finish rendering a page before I can start on the next of the seven pages I'm trying to open./just bitter because my 800mhz laptop is a slow web browser without opera Myren
my linux laptop has an 800 mhz crusoe processor and ddr ram. using firefox, even under fluxbox, is neigh-on-unbearable.
i have to run opera, its the only thing fast enough. admitantly, i am a bit of a tab addict, but opera doesnt seem to care whether i have 20 tabs open or 200. firefox barely moves at 20.
a lot of it is about the instant reaction. i can hit control-n at any time and no matter how busy opera is, how packed my cpu is, opera will throw open a new window immediately and let me start typing in my address. even under duress & system lag, it still knows what i've asked it to do and will respond as appropriate.
loading & rendering web pages i couldnt give a rats about. whats important is how responsive the application is. take all the time you want, as long as you're giving me the priority to do as i please while your app takes its damned time.
Mine is printing this, which is massively fubarred (68k image). Can anyone diagnose it? Everything comes out like that... Its a Lexmark Optra R+ series, would be nice if it still worked.
If I could just buy another toner, that'd be great; these ink cartridges are like $15 for 40 pages on a good day with very conservative ink usage settings. I'd even be willing to buy other random parts, but I know diagnostic costs more than I can afford.
Many thanks, thread hijacked for a good cause I hope. Myren
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according to Via, a 42-U rack with 168 processors would draw about 2.5 kilowatts, or about as much power as two hair dryers. This also looks like the basis for a nice car computer.
i knew american SUV's were getting overly large, but REALLY NOW.
-Myren
we need a lot better directory services and load sharing to accomplish this effectively.
linking six people to single computer works ok, but some week everyone's going to be smashing the cpu like mad, just out of chance.
we need dragonflybsd like process migration & single-system-imaging to enable the "computing resources" phenomena to really grow. six computers with six people per computer may be a problem, but six computers with thirty six users is a far more stable statistically speaking.
there's a million other benefits to the grid.
i hate how the grid buzzword has been usurped by people trying to sell cpu cycles. i want my general-purpose resource sharing grid damn it.
myren
i found my first social distortion cd in a dingy corner of the mall. literally, just laying there.
;)
it looked like someone had stomped on the case and left it there for dead. worked fine, and was a wonderful introduction. put it in a new jewel case and was like new. i've been a fan ever since.
whats more illegal? finding cd's or most p2p?
false alarm, there's still hordes of sharp young'uns beating down the door trying to replace your lazy ass.
dont go into the game industry expecting a nice cushy job. expect hell, like fending off the fifth of all computer science students who would probably kill to get a gaming industry job.
definately an exagguration, but i imagine google and pixar to be the only similarly employer-driven markets out there.
-Myren
music plasma saved my life! it shows a graphical map of artists and how they connect to other artists (in way of "genre"). Its some entirely arbitrary linkage and the breadth isnt that great, but its supposedly all based on user inputs.
i find audioscrobbler to be too over-run by the songs everyone has on their playlist. it doesnt really help you discern genre's, which is what is so great about musicplasma. its much more directly peer to peer, but somewhat less useful. you pretty much have to find well done groups, but even well done groups rarely play the music in the group.
Mood + genre awareness has a long ways to go.
-Myren
I'd be more interested in a race; which comes out first, WinFS or ReiserFS plugins?
I'd say they're neck in neck on the OS Vaporware Challenge.
i have a phase change water cooling system designed for photo baths. its got a huge insulted resivour and a heat exchanger.
i had to axe the program after our house electricity bill kept climbing, sans the project even getting off the ground.
phase change is one of the most expensive prospects out there. sure its badass cool, but you might as well spend the money on a faster chip and not have to pay again and again for your speed (in electricity bills).
phase change has one and only one use as far as I can see (well, aside from those of us without metered electricity). i think phase change would rule in an office environment.
as cpu's keep getting hotter, we're going to have to water cool. centralized phase change computer cooling begins to make sense.
i dream of working in a office with no white noise. water cooling seems like a fine first step for doing so. of course, we'd have to use those silly projection keyboard things, quieter AC systems and do half a million other things to keep noise down, but most office i've been to, computer noise is one of the largest factors.
Myren
There's a couple major problems with fluorescents, a lot of which have been pointed out. But I havent seen my #1 beef:
1) Its impossible to find dimmable fluorescents.
They used to make em, a reasonable premium, but they're completely AWOL now.
Other grievances:
2) 60 hz DEATH TO EYES magical powers
3) hideous spectrum: what is it, like 3 different narrowband peaks?
Can someone recommend a dimmable full spectrum non-flickering fluorescent? cause that'd f'ing rock.
-Myren
i just did a 180 mile round trip to the ski resort wednesday and did a little experiment. i drove 62 mph the entire way (plus or minus, usually minus going uphill). my `84 Volvo wagon got an astounding 28 mpg! normally I get about 21 mpg, but normally i'm driving at least 75. i never accelerate hard at all, to conserve fuel.
the extra 13 mph would've saved me ~20 minutes. instead i saved over two gallons of gas (180/28=6.4 180/21=8.5).
you get diminishing returns for speeding. you have to travel twice as fast to get half the time. there's a very significant exponential decay in terms of time savings.
i think i'm going to slow down a little. i'm wondering how different the situation is for cars with good engines.
Myren
i think the other key reason is that xmlhttprequest is exceedingly good at being a lightweight asyncronous system. java, you have to code a fraking interface, with "ajax" you have an interface, you're just manipulating elements in the interface.
thats the real deal.
the problem with java is it integrates like crap into the web. the applet is not exactly the most seamless device ever made.
ecmascript works with what's already there. its not easy, but google is proving that it can be done with blissful results. the good web developers have known about xmlhttprequest for years. and have been screaming at opera to hurry the fsck up and include the damned thing already.
i find the statement "i much rather write something in JAva and know it will almost always work on different platforms" laughable, if only because most java developers seem unable to deploy their applications to work on any browsers.
what, ah, fight club style? obliterate all records?
did they loose the financial info too? seems like that'd be, um, a problem.
Myren
"[MAME defacto] have also clearly stated that [MAME] is not to be used for commercial gains." - This Asshat.
Like selling arcade machines?
Whether the software is legal or not, this guy is still selling machines preloaded with MAME for commercial games. MAME doesnt say "mame is not to be sold for commercial games with illegal roms," they say "not to be sold for commercial gains," period.
I see his point, but he's still an asshat. You cant go around registering trademarks which you have no grounds for ownership of and not expect people to get pissed off. Beyond that though, dont go lording around virtue and morality when you yourself are in strict violation of the same laws, if not legally, ethically. I understand that there is absolutely zero legal obligation to obey the MAME developers "not for gains restriction", hell, you even seem to be a reasonable case for not legalizing the not-for-gains restriction. but you have to be farking kidding if you expect to be allowed to not only break the ethical laws, but to then turn around and claim you are now the legal authority of MAME.
Your marginal hypocracy is far outshaddowed by your extreme stupidity and asshatedness. Please go back to running what could be a good buisness quietly and without incidence.
Myren
you can find and afford solitude. thats the benefit of the boondocks, its something which is just not possible in the city. cost of living and all that, meh, details compared to a lifestyle.
i think we're slashdotting the google map servers with The Dalles, Oregon on them. in other news, my first official complaint about the google map server is there's no scale. LAME.
driving directions are 82 miles, which is a little over comfortably close enough range to portland, particularly when route 84 is about to get a heckuva lot busier. on the plus side you should be pretty far out of the city lights effect.
my real question is what is the primary focus of this location? just another datacenter, or some R&D too?
testing luminocity:
gnome cvs docs
module name luminocity - last sentance of the article
myren
what do i checkout to get luminocity? sounds nifty.
pci express allows anyone to run multiple high speed video cards in a single system. this is the "quad mode" of which people speak, using four monitors. the cards dont even have to be from the same vendor for this to work. this is nothing new: it could be done with PCI too, its just that PCI had very poor performance. this has nothing to do with SLI except for nvidia branding their multi-slot motherboards SLI.
SLI is a mode where one card has no outputs and is slaved to the other card to provide a performance benefit.
It is entirely up to the drivers whether you can run SLI in quad mode. there's three basic ways this could be done:
1) 3+4th displays have to power down
2) 3+4 displays loose all acceleration
3) SLI is a special hack which allows dualheaded acceleration to occur between video cards to allow 4 card display of something like doom3 automagically. no 4 card performance benefit, but you can quadhead render games like you could dualhead.
4) all render is done on some unified display bridged by SLI your winamp plugin can run on 3/4 while you play doom on 1 with all renderings being accelerated by all cards. yeah frigging right, too cool to be real.
sadly its going to take these idiot manufacturers another 18 months to realize they can start maddly throwing more PCI expresses onto systems with HyperTransport with little effort. 4 real graphics cards would be sweet, i could finally replace these Matrox Millenium II's.
unforutnately nvidia's sli uses some internal connector in addition to PCI express to achieve SLI. this pretty much axes all hopes of running doom on 8 monitors, even if you can run accelerated quadhead mode.
myren
from my understanding, one of the main advantages of dual head technology is that you can play a video and have it span multiple monitors.
the $64k question:
if you're running sli and have quad display mode, do you have the capability to span video between the two different cards?
i've had less than stellar luck achieving the same results with my computer bank-full-oh-pci cards, although it could purely be a PCI/bandwidth issue. with windows there's overlay issues that the new VMR-9 was supposed to address but my Matrox II's are not VMR-9 capable; i believe there is some hardware requirement.
your nuances are our future
myren
the Geforce 4200 was far faster than the 5200. The 5200 was criminally bad. It has 4 pixel pipeliens which could do 1 texture/pass, whereas the 4200 was 4/2. you cannot play anything modern on a 5200. fsck, i my 4200 died a couple months ago & i need a video card.
I've been a die hard nvidia fan since the geforce series, but the first thing I do when mentioning nvidia is spend 30 minutes badmouthing the 5200. nVidia should be ASHAMED for such a piece of junk.
Dont get a 5200. the 4400's are cheap and dead center between the 4200 and 4600. else step up and get a 6200. If you really want a 5200, get a 440 MX, its almost the same thing.
techreport table o' video cards.
cant you use gssapi too/instead?
just to be fair here given my lavish opera praise:
Opera sucks because they obstinately refuse to move anywhere towards the so called "DHTML" bandwagon. allegedly they finally buckled and are beginning to offer some sort of XmlHttpRequest functionality of some sort, but they're pretty much four years behind technology wise.
those fancy gmail & google suggestion things? hell no, Opera lacks the engine under the hood to drive them.
for once i can say someone is being an absolute tool for being so beligerant about following the standards. mor-ons! *sigh*, all i want is my perfect browser.
regards,
Myren
We all love Firefox, is it SO hard to accept it's not perfect? Jeeze.
/just bitter because my 800mhz laptop is a slow web browser without opera
I dont. Not because it doesnt render fast, but because it doesnt respond fast.
Sure Opera whups ass in these tests, but thats not where it excels most. These test completely neglect how badly opera really tromps: it excels most at being responsive no matter how much load you're placing on it. The History test is the best test they've got in this vague vinicnity, and you'll notice opera is usually 3-4x better than the competition, no exagguration.
For slower computers, this makes all the difference. Opera remains responsive and sharp, even under load.
I find it pathetic Firefox is so heniously unresponsive. It feels like it was written without any knowledge of callbacks/asyncronous code, &C. Rendering fast is no good if it has to finish rendering a page before I can start on the next of the seven pages I'm trying to open.
Myren
i want to see a good lynx/links/elinks/w3m/etc comparison some day.
last time i used lynx it didnt have frame support. i've had elinks aliased over lynx ever since, and havent bothered looking back.
Myren
my linux laptop has an 800 mhz crusoe processor and ddr ram. using firefox, even under fluxbox, is neigh-on-unbearable.
i have to run opera, its the only thing fast enough. admitantly, i am a bit of a tab addict, but opera doesnt seem to care whether i have 20 tabs open or 200. firefox barely moves at 20.
a lot of it is about the instant reaction. i can hit control-n at any time and no matter how busy opera is, how packed my cpu is, opera will throw open a new window immediately and let me start typing in my address. even under duress & system lag, it still knows what i've asked it to do and will respond as appropriate.
loading & rendering web pages i couldnt give a rats about. whats important is how responsive the application is. take all the time you want, as long as you're giving me the priority to do as i please while your app takes its damned time.
Myren
Mine is printing this, which is massively fubarred (68k image). Can anyone diagnose it? Everything comes out like that... Its a Lexmark Optra R+ series, would be nice if it still worked.
If I could just buy another toner, that'd be great; these ink cartridges are like $15 for 40 pages on a good day with very conservative ink usage settings. I'd even be willing to buy other random parts, but I know diagnostic costs more than I can afford.
Many thanks, thread hijacked for a good cause I hope.
Myren