What if it believes a genuine installation of the game is in fact a pirated copy? What if it then sets about slowly punishing the person who has done nothing worse than purchase a game?
This is even worse because some gamers may not even realize what's happening.
"The game became really difficult after level 8, so I quit playing. I sold it back to ebgames at the mall for $12".
Of course, ebgames sell this to somebody else for $33. What's the game's next owner supposed to do? How can he even tell something's wrong when he's never even played the game the 'right' way?
I realize this game is great, but it's not what a casual gamer wants... it just looks, and sounds, so... fruity.
Look at the GC sales spike after Zelda, and the current one. It's just the price cut, not any particular title, the lets Nintendo move candle trucks of these things.
Build a similar feature into a browser such as Mozilla.
This will prove that:
* You can achieve the exact same effect without breaking other applications * The thing that bugs verisign is not that people can't find the site they need, but that they can't use their monopoly to force people to do it through their site.
My original proposal-in-a-nutshell:
Browser/options/network (or something):
When server does not exist
[.] Display modal error message
[.] Display non-modal error message
[X] Redirect to:
[.] Domain search site A
[.] Domain search site B
[.] Domain search site C
[X] Custom search:
[ http://www.indiesearchguys.net?host=%h ]
The sooner this gets implemented, the easier it will be for everybody to see through Verisign's lies.
Sports games (football, hockey, skating, golf, etc) are about people doing stuff - they can be anybody without affecting the gameplay.
Games like platformers or Japanese RPGs benefit from very detailed characters fitting the plot and gameplay. You wouldn't want your ugly mug instead of, say, Crash Bandicoot, now would you? It may be fun in a multiplayer environment (where you actually know the other guys) but that's about it.
I'm sure FPS players would get a kick out of fragging a face they know.
Games like racers, puzzles, and shooters don't really have or need avatars for the most part, so the question is moot.
I'd be more interested in games that let me customize other aspects - like Jet Grind Radio/Jet Set Radio let you import graffiti. Or how about a racer that lets you customize your car so much I can create a virtual replica of the candle truck?
We already know you can't have your cake (playable on standard CD players) and eat it (uncopyable).
The questions are: Will consumers realize the difference between CDs and non standard discs? Will the media, and ultimately the RIAA, realize any such attempt is guaranteed to fail uness the hardware can be fully controlled?
What does it take for these people to realize it's a losing battle?
Once again the wagon of DRM has been rammed off the road by the candletruck of innovation.
Seriously, I remember somebody making a comment about how he used telnet to log in and check his email, and his teacher freaking out claiming he's a liar and you can only check your mail from hotmail and he must be doing that illegal 'hacking' stuff.
Sounds like a good candidate for a short trip in the candle truck.
But seriously, Yahoo! mail.
Mind you, webmail is a huge barrier to using a PKI to validate mail and prevent spam - the client should do it since servers don't really want to do all the extra crypto, but if the client is a browser there may be no way to do it.
Jill is a salaried person at Prentice Hall who has a lot of good books to her name. Just as an aside, I think she was moving across the country during this one, and having a baby, etc.
Bruce,
The real fun comes from poking fun at people you don't know. Knowing the person kind of kills the joke.
No offense intended. I'm sure Jill is a competent editor and a wonderful person, I wish her and the baby all the best, and I certainly have no right to judge the quality of her work.
But I think you're losing sight of the big picture - an experiment to try turning "candle truck", a random two word expression, into a meme.
Whatever happened to the Maxx Payne lawsuit?
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For the goldfish-memoried among you, here is the original slashdot article.
Was the lawsuit dismissed? Was it settled? Did Rockstar arrange for the candle truck to pay Mr. Payne a visit?
Unless they release a free server that players can connect to after they take their servers down, all they're getting from me is two middle fingers. Seriously, if I buy an online game, I expect to be able to play it online for several years at least, not taken down like the PSO1 servers.
I bought Alien Front online less than 10 months after release, but it turns out by this time the servers were already taken offline - forever.
SEGA's response to me and the BBB: Shut up, kid. You can still play offline, so we don't technically owe you anything.
The only thing that can be done is filing a class action lawsuit to try and get SEGA to release the source code of the servers and allow modifying the client. If anybody knows an attorney who may be willing to give this case a look, get in touch.
Otherwise, companies will never have any reason to stop this cycle of advertising a game as online (and claiming so on packaging) without announcing any cut-off date, then terminating the servers when they feel like it, and not leaving consumers any option to run the servers themselves or even connect 1-on-1 directly.
Processing time would be an issue here for servers who send / receive a large number of emails.
It's possible to shift the work to the mail clients, having the server just act as a temporary storage buffer. It probably makes more sense since your contact's public keys are (should be) already cached in your mail app.
If mail can be decrypted with the public key, it was encrypted with the private key, hence not spoofed. If mail was not encrypted at all bounce it, explaining why.
I don't care if they're "just doing their jobs" - they're doing it at her and my great inconvenience, and that's NOT acceptable.
"Just doing our jobs" sounds a lot like "just following orders", doesn't it? Remember, torturers working for south-american governments are also just doing their jobs.
I don't CARE if 2 million telemarketers get booted to the street. They'll just fill other service positions that pay the same paltry amount but don't irritate people.
Even if these 2 million are forced to prostitute just to make ends meet, at least they'd be providing a valuable service. Why is THAT considered illegal but telemarketing isn't?
The $64,000 question is, can the domain not found response be modified at all without breaking the protocol? For instance, to have older programs recognize the error, but next generation programs (web browsers mainly) be able to return useful information like possible alternatives?
There is NO NEED to ABUSE the DNS PROTOCOL. If you feel an APPLICATION needs to behave a certain way when an NXDOMAIN response is appropriate, rewrite the application to do that.
LOOK:
Browser/options/network (or something):
When server does not exist
[.] Display modal error message
[.] Display non-modal error message
[X] Redirect to:
[.] Domain search site A
[.] Domain search site B
[.] Domain search site C
[X] Custom search:
[ http://www.indiesearchguys.net?host=%h ]
Hey, I added value to one application without BREAKING ANYTHING ELSE! I must be some kind of GENIUS in the field of the OBVIOUS!
The most damage is the loss of company secrets (Source engine techniques, anyone?) and the potential damage to engine licensing opportunities, I think.
If you worked for an actual game developer, would you risk your career by using leaked engine code?
At worst you'd read it at home, figure out some technique, and implement it in your own project.
If the connection between the client and server is broken the game no longer functions on the client and the server unlocks the game for other players. We allow you to rent our games, not buy them.
That really isn't very much like what the article suggests, now is it? It seems you can't really get a clean version of the ROMS, and you can't keep them - it's a DRM thing.
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What if it believes a genuine installation of the game is in fact a pirated copy? What if it then sets about slowly punishing the person who has done nothing worse than purchase a game?
This is even worse because some gamers may not even realize what's happening.
"The game became really difficult after level 8, so I quit playing. I sold it back to ebgames at the mall for $12".
Of course, ebgames sell this to somebody else for $33. What's the game's next owner supposed to do? How can he even tell something's wrong when he's never even played the game the 'right' way?
This sux.
Yeah, thats why its sold out on capcoms online site, and in alot of stores, cause no casual gamers are into it.
Capcom's site lists it as a "pre-order". Either it's out of date, or it would tend to explain why a lot of stores don't carry it.
P.S. Pet peeve - it's "a lot", not "alot". You wouldn't write "alittle" or "abit", now would you?
I realize this game is great, but it's not what a casual gamer wants... it just looks, and sounds, so... fruity.
Look at the GC sales spike after Zelda, and the current one. It's just the price cut, not any particular title, the lets Nintendo move candle trucks of these things.
The guy could have raped, pillaged and murdered and still do less jail time / fines.
Really? How much did the last criminal accused of 160,000 counts of rape or murder get?
Horizontal or Vertical Shooters?
Did this story make the cut because of the science, or because of the video game reference?
And what does SEGA have to say about the dilution of trademark/copyright infringement/etc?
Build a similar feature into a browser such as Mozilla.
This will prove that:
* You can achieve the exact same effect without breaking other applications
* The thing that bugs verisign is not that people can't find the site they need, but that they can't use their monopoly to force people to do it through their site.
My original proposal-in-a-nutshell:
Browser/options/network (or something):
When server does not exist
[.] Display modal error message
[.] Display non-modal error message
[X] Redirect to:
[.] Domain search site A
[.] Domain search site B
[.] Domain search site C
[X] Custom search:
[ http://www.indiesearchguys.net?host=%h ]
The sooner this gets implemented, the easier it will be for everybody to see through Verisign's lies.
Standard Avatars - cool, not always practical.
Sports games (football, hockey, skating, golf, etc) are about people doing stuff - they can be anybody without affecting the gameplay.
Games like platformers or Japanese RPGs benefit from very detailed characters fitting the plot and gameplay. You wouldn't want your ugly mug instead of, say, Crash Bandicoot, now would you? It may be fun in a multiplayer environment (where you actually know the other guys) but that's about it.
I'm sure FPS players would get a kick out of fragging a face they know.
Games like racers, puzzles, and shooters don't really have or need avatars for the most part, so the question is moot.
I'd be more interested in games that let me customize other aspects - like Jet Grind Radio/Jet Set Radio let you import graffiti. Or how about a racer that lets you customize your car so much I can create a virtual replica of the candle truck?
We already know you can't have your cake (playable on standard CD players) and eat it (uncopyable).
The questions are:
Will consumers realize the difference between CDs and non standard discs?
Will the media, and ultimately the RIAA, realize any such attempt is guaranteed to fail uness the hardware can be fully controlled?
What does it take for these people to realize it's a losing battle?
Once again the wagon of DRM has been rammed off the road by the candletruck of innovation.
You mean there's another way?
Seriously, I remember somebody making a comment about how he used telnet to log in and check his email, and his teacher freaking out claiming he's a liar and you can only check your mail from hotmail and he must be doing that illegal 'hacking' stuff.
Sounds like a good candidate for a short trip in the candle truck.
But seriously, Yahoo! mail.
Mind you, webmail is a huge barrier to using a PKI to validate mail and prevent spam - the client should do it since servers don't really want to do all the extra crypto, but if the client is a browser there may be no way to do it.
Can someone please tell me what SCO really stands for?
Star Control Online?
Soul Calibur Online?
Speakerbraclet Candletruck Operations?
Jill is a salaried person at Prentice Hall who has a lot of good books to her name. Just as an aside, I think she was moving across the country during this one, and having a baby, etc.
Bruce,
The real fun comes from poking fun at people you don't know. Knowing the person kind of kills the joke.
No offense intended. I'm sure Jill is a competent editor and a wonderful person, I wish her and the baby all the best, and I certainly have no right to judge the quality of her work.
But I think you're losing sight of the big picture - an experiment to try turning "candle truck", a random two word expression, into a meme.
For the goldfish-memoried among you, here is the original slashdot article.
Was the lawsuit dismissed? Was it settled? Did Rockstar arrange for the candle truck to pay Mr. Payne a visit?
Normally, books get an 8 or a 9 (nobody's perfect, and with so many books there's no reason to review a mediocre one).
Sounds like the editor may be headed for a one way trip in the candle truck, if you catch my drift.
Unless they release a free server that players can connect to after they take their servers down, all they're getting from me is two middle fingers. Seriously, if I buy an online game, I expect to be able to play it online for several years at least, not taken down like the PSO1 servers.
I bought Alien Front online less than 10 months after release, but it turns out by this time the servers were already taken offline - forever.
SEGA's response to me and the BBB: Shut up, kid. You can still play offline, so we don't technically owe you anything.
The only thing that can be done is filing a class action lawsuit to try and get SEGA to release the source code of the servers and allow modifying the client. If anybody knows an attorney who may be willing to give this case a look, get in touch.
Otherwise, companies will never have any reason to stop this cycle of advertising a game as online (and claiming so on packaging) without announcing any cut-off date, then terminating the servers when they feel like it, and not leaving consumers any option to run the servers themselves or even connect 1-on-1 directly.
Processing time would be an issue here for servers who send / receive a large number of emails.
It's possible to shift the work to the mail clients, having the server just act as a temporary storage buffer. It probably makes more sense since your contact's public keys are (should be) already cached in your mail app.
So every mail server on the planet will need to contain a public key for every other mail server on the planet? Yeah, that's practical.
Sigh.
The I in PKI stands for infrastructure.
The database would probably need to be centralized like the DNS database. Now if we could just find a trusted (non-verisign) party to maintain it...
If mail can be decrypted with the public key, it was encrypted with the private key, hence not spoofed. If mail was not encrypted at all bounce it, explaining why.
I don't care if they're "just doing their jobs" - they're doing it at her and my great inconvenience, and that's NOT acceptable.
"Just doing our jobs" sounds a lot like "just following orders", doesn't it? Remember, torturers working for south-american governments are also just doing their jobs.
I don't CARE if 2 million telemarketers get booted to the street. They'll just fill other service positions that pay the same paltry amount but don't irritate people.
Even if these 2 million are forced to prostitute just to make ends meet, at least they'd be providing a valuable service. Why is THAT considered illegal but telemarketing isn't?
The $64,000 question is, can the domain not found response be modified at all without breaking the protocol? For instance, to have older programs recognize the error, but next generation programs (web browsers mainly) be able to return useful information like possible alternatives?
There is NO NEED to ABUSE the DNS PROTOCOL. If you feel an APPLICATION needs to behave a certain way when an NXDOMAIN response is appropriate, rewrite the application to do that.
LOOK:
Browser/options/network (or something):
When server does not exist
[.] Display modal error message
[.] Display non-modal error message
[X] Redirect to:
[.] Domain search site A
[.] Domain search site B
[.] Domain search site C
[X] Custom search:
[ http://www.indiesearchguys.net?host=%h ]
Hey, I added value to one application without BREAKING ANYTHING ELSE! I must be some kind of GENIUS in the field of the OBVIOUS!
Just 2 days after I finally get Cox Communications to install the DNS patch...
Couldn't ICANN have let me stay a hero for just a few more days?
news that end with question marks?
The most damage is the loss of company secrets (Source engine techniques, anyone?) and the potential damage to engine licensing opportunities, I think.
If you worked for an actual game developer, would you risk your career by using leaked engine code?
At worst you'd read it at home, figure out some technique, and implement it in your own project.
The slashdot article is about StarRoms.com. They are two totally different things.
Apologies. I misread an earlier comment. Thank you for catching my stupid mistake, and that also goes for whoever modded me down.
That really isn't very much like what the article suggests, now is it? It seems you can't really get a clean version of the ROMS, and you can't keep them - it's a DRM thing.