Maybe all the fuzz behind "hackers" is overrated but I'd like that something could wipe out all this leet hax0r, viruz spread, spam, junk on the web trends. Maybe particular measures won't do anything and we should educate people. Many young people are more attracted by the "hacker" breaking into networks myth than doing something creative in their computer. A wrong in my opinion and destructive trend is in the minds of people.
I am using the term "hacker" here in quotes to mean the new definition. As everyone understands it. I wish 99% of the people were talking about pioneer programmers and not cyberanarchists when using the term. And I wish they'd respect creativity on a computer and not cyber attacks without a true reason. But the former does not sounds "cool" to them:P
If there are government measures towards cyberattacks today it's because of the young people thinking it's cool and respected to bring mess to the internet, not the mass media. The so called "hackers" (with the new definition always) are preserving the bad notion and wrong ethics.
How about the conspiracists believing anoother side. That the moon landing really did happened and there were more secret landings and we have build a base there (in mars too!) and already found intelligent extraterrestrials there or there is a huge fleet of flying saucer lying on the dark side of the moon, but they hide it all from the public and also the moon is not a physical satellite but a camouflaged big alien spaceship. If you are a lot into paranormal/conspiracy theories like I was in the past, you hear a lot of these insane stuff already!
Thanks for opening that subject. It might help me by reading the suggestions too.
Although the way I solved my problem was to stop coding when I wasn't in the mood. Which is hard because you usually want to push yourself to finish that project while it's always a fact that gaming or web surfing looks more appealing than doing mental work. What we are trying to do is find a way to work even if it's not exactly what pleases us right at the moment. When it's hobbyist computing you may be able to dismiss it but when it's some other more important thing with a deadline you just end up doing it all in a holy mess at the very end.
Yes, after 10 years that I wanted to be productive in the demoscene just for my personal need for honor and to cure my lack of self-esteem I end up being frustrated but said to myself I have made several mediocre demos, maybe not a really good one, but it's time to move on and do something else. Like playing oldschool rpgs:PPP
Actually does the project you are working on motivates you? Or you may wish to try something new but because the project is half finished and still appealing to be released because some of the public likes it you can't just abandon it?
Ahh,. coders block. Ask about motivations. Maybe the cure is to start something entirely new..
Tech support: Hello? User: I can't log in the internet! Tech: What's the problem? User: I type my password and it seem to be invalid. Tech: Which one is your password? User: I saw it when my dad was typing it. It is eight stars. Tech: Duh:P
Most answers here translate as "be engaged in conversations or activities a geek doesn't like".
Also, shyness/awkwardness/fear/etc. It's not just a matter of doing activities. Although if you manage to persuade yourself into doing them frequently you have more social opportunities and might eventually change. But that's the problem. If you don't want or you don't care to change and only doing it for the final means then you aren't focused enough and you loose interest and eventually quit.
A friend told me another solution. Skype. He told me to install it and let it open. Eventually girls will come and want to talk to you. If you respond (without thinking the end means) you learn to talk to women and get self-esteem and eventually some of them might want to meet you. That's how my friend (a geek) found most of his girlfriends. The problem is that I am not interested in talking to women just for the sake of communication. I am too busy. I have to write code:P
It is really complicated in a sense. For some of us. My personal favorite method is to take it lightly and don't care if time is passing and I don't have a girlfriend yet. Eventually I will find and she will be special to be content with someone like me (I think:P).
Sometimes we see examples of great scientists who are assumed to had Asperger's. They say that many great artists were supposed to be depressive once in their life. This doesn't mean that all people on the autistic spectrum or all depressive or all obsessive compulsive will be well known geniouses at a later age. Maybe most of them will be lost in oblivion and only very few of them will excel. At least considering what the society defines as "excelling". Maybe some of them are content with their simple life and they never wished to become known or excel in science. Others might be depressed because they'd wish to but never reached that position. A lot of different cases and lot of different variables into play.
Many wonderkids appear in news tabloids but do we know what is their life story after twenty or fifty year? I would like to look back at similar stories in newspapers from the fifties and find out what are those children doing today. This would be interesting..
He doesn't like videogames because he says they offer nothing to humanity, yet he wants to be an actor?
And since when all we do has to do anything with offering something to humanity? I think we want to say that it is so, they call you an egoist if you deny this, or sometimes it's a byproduct of that, but it's all personal motives for me.
I think that most people like facebook and similar sites because it depicts socialization as understood by the average joe. Socialization as an end in itself.
It's all about joining the network, adding people as friends even those you don't know well or never call you, poking each other, sending stupid quiz and silly games, writting mundane things, activities that for creative people might seem boring. Socializing for the sake of socializing.
At least this is how I understand it and the main reason I don't like these kinds of sites. In sites like \. people still communicate with each other but discussing actual interesting subjects, not for the sake of socialization but because they find the subjects interesting alone. Well, there are groups about interesting things (programming, science, etc) in facebook and other sites too, but usually they exist just to exist and almost no serious discussion is taking part there.
Kinda ironic. It's usually when I have a job that I am spending more time on the internet (probably because I hate my job:)
The last time I lost my job a lot of my messenger contacts wondered why I was lost for months while I used to talk to them daily before that.
When I am at home I wish to do something more creative with my computer and I am never in the mood to watch random stuff on the internet (I am even repeled away from reading an interesting article). But at work I have a quite different mood:)
Most people think that hackers are computer gods and that you have to destroy something to be a computer god. They even think that because of the results it might be much harder than anything else and very few people are capable of doing something like that. I wish it was harder..
While many argue (myself too sometimes) over the definition of the word a hacker, the real problem here is how it is perceived from most people. Even a person of average intellegence in my opinion can learn how to wipeout a server or even do those stupid defacing pranks without needing to be very clever (effort and persistence are enough). A lot of people come and tell me that hackers (with the new definition) are cool and how they must be very clever to destroy stuff and such. Nobody wants to learn programming (it's boring, they say), everyone wants to learn the tricks be a computer hero in an instant or something like that.
In my view, even the average person or an idiot would be able to understand the obvious. That destroying and doing defacings on the internet is neither clever nor creative. But this doesn't happen. I think because the idea of a stylish computer hero blowing up stuff (as seen in the movies) is much more preferable than that of a godlike programmer growing a unix beard or something..
Yes, I hate hackers too (the new generation/definition) and people misunderstand me when I say that. "Killing" them would do nothing, it's the nowadays mentality/perception that we should try to change. People are having it wrong and they are spreading the idea that "hacking" (in the modern definition, not the old one of programming geeks or something) is ok or even respected.
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Oh no! Sounds like ant globalizaton..
Maybe all the fuzz behind "hackers" is overrated but I'd like that something could wipe out all this leet hax0r, viruz spread, spam, junk on the web trends. Maybe particular measures won't do anything and we should educate people. Many young people are more attracted by the "hacker" breaking into networks myth than doing something creative in their computer. A wrong in my opinion and destructive trend is in the minds of people.
I am using the term "hacker" here in quotes to mean the new definition. As everyone understands it. I wish 99% of the people were talking about pioneer programmers and not cyberanarchists when using the term. And I wish they'd respect creativity on a computer and not cyber attacks without a true reason. But the former does not sounds "cool" to them :P
If there are government measures towards cyberattacks today it's because of the young people thinking it's cool and respected to bring mess to the internet, not the mass media. The so called "hackers" (with the new definition always) are preserving the bad notion and wrong ethics.
How about the conspiracists believing anoother side. That the moon landing really did happened and there were more secret landings and we have build a base there (in mars too!) and already found intelligent extraterrestrials there or there is a huge fleet of flying saucer lying on the dark side of the moon, but they hide it all from the public and also the moon is not a physical satellite but a camouflaged big alien spaceship. If you are a lot into paranormal/conspiracy theories like I was in the past, you hear a lot of these insane stuff already!
Thanks for opening that subject. It might help me by reading the suggestions too.
Although the way I solved my problem was to stop coding when I wasn't in the mood. Which is hard because you usually want to push yourself to finish that project while it's always a fact that gaming or web surfing looks more appealing than doing mental work. What we are trying to do is find a way to work even if it's not exactly what pleases us right at the moment. When it's hobbyist computing you may be able to dismiss it but when it's some other more important thing with a deadline you just end up doing it all in a holy mess at the very end.
Yes, after 10 years that I wanted to be productive in the demoscene just for my personal need for honor and to cure my lack of self-esteem I end up being frustrated but said to myself I have made several mediocre demos, maybe not a really good one, but it's time to move on and do something else. Like playing oldschool rpgs :PPP
Actually does the project you are working on motivates you? Or you may wish to try something new but because the project is half finished and still appealing to be released because some of the public likes it you can't just abandon it?
Ahh,. coders block. Ask about motivations. Maybe the cure is to start something entirely new..
Tech support: Hello? :P
User: I can't log in the internet!
Tech: What's the problem?
User: I type my password and it seem to be invalid.
Tech: Which one is your password?
User: I saw it when my dad was typing it. It is eight stars.
Tech: Duh
Most answers here translate as "be engaged in conversations or activities a geek doesn't like".
Also, shyness/awkwardness/fear/etc. It's not just a matter of doing activities. Although if you manage to persuade yourself into doing them frequently you have more social opportunities and might eventually change. But that's the problem. If you don't want or you don't care to change and only doing it for the final means then you aren't focused enough and you loose interest and eventually quit.
A friend told me another solution. Skype. He told me to install it and let it open. Eventually girls will come and want to talk to you. If you respond (without thinking the end means) you learn to talk to women and get self-esteem and eventually some of them might want to meet you. That's how my friend (a geek) found most of his girlfriends. The problem is that I am not interested in talking to women just for the sake of communication. I am too busy. I have to write code :P
It is really complicated in a sense. For some of us. My personal favorite method is to take it lightly and don't care if time is passing and I don't have a girlfriend yet. Eventually I will find and she will be special to be content with someone like me (I think :P).
I constantly do the same question.
Sometimes we see examples of great scientists who are assumed to had Asperger's. They say that many great artists were supposed to be depressive once in their life. This doesn't mean that all people on the autistic spectrum or all depressive or all obsessive compulsive will be well known geniouses at a later age. Maybe most of them will be lost in oblivion and only very few of them will excel. At least considering what the society defines as "excelling". Maybe some of them are content with their simple life and they never wished to become known or excel in science. Others might be depressed because they'd wish to but never reached that position. A lot of different cases and lot of different variables into play.
Many wonderkids appear in news tabloids but do we know what is their life story after twenty or fifty year? I would like to look back at similar stories in newspapers from the fifties and find out what are those children doing today. This would be interesting..
He doesn't like videogames because he says they offer nothing to humanity, yet he wants to be an actor?
And since when all we do has to do anything with offering something to humanity? I think we want to say that it is so, they call you an egoist if you deny this, or sometimes it's a byproduct of that, but it's all personal motives for me.
I think that most people like facebook and similar sites because it depicts socialization as understood by the average joe. Socialization as an end in itself.
It's all about joining the network, adding people as friends even those you don't know well or never call you, poking each other, sending stupid quiz and silly games, writting mundane things, activities that for creative people might seem boring. Socializing for the sake of socializing.
At least this is how I understand it and the main reason I don't like these kinds of sites. In sites like \. people still communicate with each other but discussing actual interesting subjects, not for the sake of socialization but because they find the subjects interesting alone. Well, there are groups about interesting things (programming, science, etc) in facebook and other sites too, but usually they exist just to exist and almost no serious discussion is taking part there.
Kinda ironic. It's usually when I have a job that I am spending more time on the internet (probably because I hate my job :)
The last time I lost my job a lot of my messenger contacts wondered why I was lost for months while I used to talk to them daily before that.
When I am at home I wish to do something more creative with my computer and I am never in the mood to watch random stuff on the internet (I am even repeled away from reading an interesting article). But at work I have a quite different mood :)
Most people think that hackers are computer gods and that you have to destroy something to be a computer god. They even think that because of the results it might be much harder than anything else and very few people are capable of doing something like that. I wish it was harder..
While many argue (myself too sometimes) over the definition of the word a hacker, the real problem here is how it is perceived from most people. Even a person of average intellegence in my opinion can learn how to wipeout a server or even do those stupid defacing pranks without needing to be very clever (effort and persistence are enough). A lot of people come and tell me that hackers (with the new definition) are cool and how they must be very clever to destroy stuff and such. Nobody wants to learn programming (it's boring, they say), everyone wants to learn the tricks be a computer hero in an instant or something like that.
In my view, even the average person or an idiot would be able to understand the obvious. That destroying and doing defacings on the internet is neither clever nor creative. But this doesn't happen. I think because the idea of a stylish computer hero blowing up stuff (as seen in the movies) is much more preferable than that of a godlike programmer growing a unix beard or something..
Yes, I hate hackers too (the new generation/definition) and people misunderstand me when I say that. "Killing" them would do nothing, it's the nowadays mentality/perception that we should try to change. People are having it wrong and they are spreading the idea that "hacking" (in the modern definition, not the old one of programming geeks or something) is ok or even respected.