Given that it took about 30 seconds for the machine to stop thrashing enough (128meg RAM, celeron 400) to bring up this reply page, I suspect we have *very* different views of "ran fine". Well... that, or you were running NT3.00 or one of the earlier ones.:)
For the rest of the people in the thread - people do complain about the bloat in KDE. That's the reason I use WindowMaker instead...
Paul
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It's a nice idea, but 95% of spammers are just harvesting From fields in newsgroups (and some morons harvest message-id too), since they can get that/extremely/ easily. They don't normally download the articles - too much work - so they wouldn't see your.sig
None of which (except maybe C) is really anyone's fault but the students. Don't agree to something without knowing what you're agreeing to, it's a very basic rule.
>In other words, section 2a says that a modified
>version of the covered work must be a software
>library--in the technical sense that we all know
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why don't you just take the license, and change library to application? (Obviously you'd probably have to change some other sections.) If you like the core of the license, use it, and just adapt it as required.
Is there reason you can't / don't want to do that...?
I can't help thinking the university would be far better off just investing in a decent amount of networked PCs around campus, and some dedicated staff to look after them. It'll almost certainly be cheaper, and you won't be forcing students to buy a laptop (which I think is a really bad idea anyway - raise the hurdle a little higher, go on!).
It's got to be cheaper, and as many other posters have pointed out, a computer itself isn't really useful for many degrees, let alone taking laptops to lectures.
This is just one part of MAPS operations. One of their other lists, the DUL, can certainly be described as "trigger happy". As well as the result of someone failing to read RFC974 thus pulling the idea out of the air that using a third party relay is not only "legitimate" but should be the prefered way to function (even for users of fully internet standard software.)
The DUL is one of those things that I'm not totally happy with (mainly because I do generally email direct-to-MX), but I can see their reasoning - a large amount of spam is sent via this method, instead of people using their ISPs smarthosts. Most people these days will just use Outlook/whatever to send to their smarthost.
Like I said, I don't especially like it, but I can appreciate the logic. It's explained somewhat better on the website.
There seems to be quite a lot of confusion about what the RBL actually is and does, so maybe it should be cleared up. Apologies for the length of this - it just kind of grew.
The Realtime Blackhole List is simply a list of IPs that have sent spam (or host spamware sites), and whose owners have refused to do anything about it. MAPS isn't "trigger happy" - in fact, many spam fighters wish they were faster, even if we can see why they aren't.:-) To actually be placed on the RBL, an entity has to really work at it, and being removed is a lot easier than going on. There are other lists that MAPS run, but none of them are indiscriminate in what they block. Relay Spam Stopper, for instance, only lists a relay *after* it's been used (not as useless as it sounds:).
MAPS itself doesn't block anything. ISPs that subscribe to one or more of the various lists will generally just refuse connections from IPs listed in the RBL. There's no "erasing" of email going on - the sender gets a message saying that it was refused, so they can deal with it. If they don't, their ISPs mail server is seriously broken.
If you don't like the idea of an ISP filtering email for you, even based on the fact that anything in the RBL is almost certain to be junk mail, then talk to your ISP and see if they'll make an exception for you. Trying to get MAPS closed down is a stupid reaction.
Harris' suit is also a stupid reaction. They may or may not succeed in bullying companies to override the RBL on their servers, but the longer this goes on, the more filters (private and otherwise) they're being placed in. They're already in mine, for example, and they're not coming out. Ever. I'm a lot less forgiving than the RBL.
Hope this reduces the mess, anyway, so we get a somewhat more intelligent collection of articles than we did last time this came up.:-)
>Incidentally, it's a touch arrogant of them to >use a generically-named header field that other, >more scrupulous Usenet archivers would use, as >their opt-out trigger now that they're in the
It might be a touch arrogant; on the other hand, it saves people having to put reams of "X-No-DejaArchive", "X-No-RemarqArchive" style headers in their posts. Some more flexibility in what was archived would be useful, however, and I think the alt.humor.best-of-usenet folks have taken at look at this in the past. Search... er... deja? remarq? Um.:-)
(I seem to remember it was actually Deja who came up with the x-no-archive header, so maybe it's understandable they'd want to use it for that reason as well.)
Not sure if the poster asking the question was in the UK or not, but this might be useful for others as well...
http://www.uklinux.net/ is a free ISP specifically aimed at Linux users; in addition to not charging users, any profits made are donated to open source/free software groups. Truly useful.:)
(It still amuses me that my sister's machine, which runs Windows, still helps Linux by using UKLinux as the ISP...)
You might not have wanted the Quake servers; many others (including myself) did, and do. I doubt your tenner would exactly make a big contribution to any of their bills anyway.:)
Fear might or might be good; I wouldn't know, I couldn't face more than one Battlefield Earth books. Elron has the honour of writing the worst book that I have ever seen - bad characters, dialogue, plot, background, consistency, and just generally bad writing.
Just out of curiosity, what made you like the book? and what other stuff do you read?:)
I use it on my own machine here, and it's caught 1 false positive (a machine in mozilla.org), and quite a few spams. I consider that a reasonable tradeoff, although I can appreciate that you'd probably look at it differently if you're an ISP.:)
AOL isn't actually the main cause of spam at present. The main sources are uu.net dialups (possibly through downstream customers who lease it), and sprintlink.net
(Neither of which are on ORBS because the people using them seem to do direct-to-MX spam, before anyone says anything.:)
If people want to do something, try complaining to the people hosting the spamvertised sites, the tools to do it (eg www.cybercreek.com), etc. Lurk in the newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email for a while, you'll soon see links to helpful pages.
But basically, don't go needlessly off on another AOL rampage, when they're not really doing too badly at present.:)
That's not quite accurate; as I understand the patenting laws (and going from past history, such as the early spreadsheet programs), you'd have patented a particular implementation of the algorithm. People would still be free to implement it other ways, even if that still involved memory/CPU/etc.
Just to make a small correction to your post, not *every* business uses Office. The company that I work for doesn't - we use FrameMaker and Acrobat, and Lotus stuff for spreadsheets etc. I'm not privy to the decisions made 'at the top', but I suspect it's for much the same reason most people on slashdot don't use it.
(To forestall your next comment, it's a big enough company - turnover of about $4.25billion in 1998, if I remember the figures right.)
Fairly short-sighted thinking there, though. What about, say, people listening at work? It means that you can do the beaming at home, then listen to more albums without having to cart tons of CDs into work with you.
(And no, I don't particularly want to rip everything onto the disk at work, for a multitude of reasons.)
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Hi Simon, long time no see. ;-)
... that, or you were running NT3.00 or one of the earlier ones. :)
Given that it took about 30 seconds for the machine to stop thrashing enough (128meg RAM, celeron 400) to bring up this reply page, I suspect we have *very* different views of "ran fine". Well
For the rest of the people in the thread - people do complain about the bloat in KDE. That's the reason I use WindowMaker instead...
Paul
It's a nice idea, but 95% of spammers are just harvesting From fields in newsgroups (and some morons harvest message-id too), since they can get that /extremely/ easily. They don't normally download the articles - too much work - so they wouldn't see your .sig
Yeah, but it's not supposed to bleed, is it?
None of which (except maybe C) is really anyone's fault but the students. Don't agree to something without knowing what you're agreeing to, it's a very basic rule.
You mean their licenses don't fall under the [L]GPL terms, in that anyone can modify them as long as they make it clear?
Wow, that bites.
>In other words, section 2a says that a modified
>version of the covered work must be a software
>library--in the technical sense that we all know
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why don't you just take the license, and change library to application? (Obviously you'd probably have to change some other sections.) If you like the core of the license, use it, and just adapt it as required.
Is there reason you can't / don't want to do that...?
I can't help thinking the university would be far better off just investing in a decent amount of networked PCs around campus, and some dedicated staff to look after them. It'll almost certainly be cheaper, and you won't be forcing students to buy a laptop (which I think is a really bad idea anyway - raise the hurdle a little higher, go on!).
It's got to be cheaper, and as many other posters have pointed out, a computer itself isn't really useful for many degrees, let alone taking laptops to lectures.
This is just one part of MAPS operations. One of their other lists, the DUL, can certainly be described as "trigger happy". As well as the result of someone failing to read RFC974 thus pulling the idea out of the air that using a third party relay is not only "legitimate" but should be the prefered way to function (even for users of fully internet standard software.)
The DUL is one of those things that I'm not totally happy with (mainly because I do generally email direct-to-MX), but I can see their reasoning - a large amount of spam is sent via this method, instead of people using their ISPs smarthosts. Most people these days will just use Outlook/whatever to send to their smarthost.
Like I said, I don't especially like it, but I can appreciate the logic. It's explained somewhat better on the website.
That would be ORBS, not MAPS.
There seems to be quite a lot of confusion about what the RBL actually is and does, so maybe it should be cleared up. Apologies for the length of this - it just kind of grew.
:-) To actually be placed on the RBL, an entity has to really work at it, and being removed is a lot easier than going on. There are other lists that MAPS run, but none of them are indiscriminate in what they block. Relay Spam Stopper, for instance, only lists a relay *after* it's been used (not as useless as it sounds :).
:-)
The Realtime Blackhole List is simply a list of IPs that have sent spam (or host spamware sites), and whose owners have refused to do anything about it. MAPS isn't "trigger happy" - in fact, many spam fighters wish they were faster, even if we can see why they aren't.
MAPS itself doesn't block anything. ISPs that subscribe to one or more of the various lists will generally just refuse connections from IPs listed in the RBL. There's no "erasing" of email going on - the sender gets a message saying that it was refused, so they can deal with it. If they don't, their ISPs mail server is seriously broken.
If you don't like the idea of an ISP filtering email for you, even based on the fact that anything in the RBL is almost certain to be junk mail, then talk to your ISP and see if they'll make an exception for you. Trying to get MAPS closed down is a stupid reaction.
Harris' suit is also a stupid reaction. They may or may not succeed in bullying companies to override the RBL on their servers, but the longer this goes on, the more filters (private and otherwise) they're being placed in. They're already in mine, for example, and they're not coming out. Ever. I'm a lot less forgiving than the RBL.
Hope this reduces the mess, anyway, so we get a somewhat more intelligent collection of articles than we did last time this came up.
They have trouble with mice?
>Incidentally, it's a touch arrogant of them to >use a generically-named header field that other, >more scrupulous Usenet archivers would use, as >their opt-out trigger now that they're in the
... er ... deja? remarq? Um. :-)
It might be a touch arrogant; on the other hand, it saves people having to put reams of "X-No-DejaArchive", "X-No-RemarqArchive" style headers in their posts. Some more flexibility in what was archived would be useful, however, and I think the alt.humor.best-of-usenet folks have taken at look at this in the past. Search
(I seem to remember it was actually Deja who came up with the x-no-archive header, so maybe it's understandable they'd want to use it for that reason as well.)
Because I'll certainly at least try it when it comes out, assuming there's a demo version.
http://www.uklinux.net/ is a free ISP specifically aimed at Linux users; in addition to not charging users, any profits made are donated to open source/free software groups. Truly useful. :)
(It still amuses me that my sister's machine, which runs Windows, still helps Linux by using UKLinux as the ISP...)
Any recommendations for good quality dictionaries?
(Would have sent this via email, but you don't give an address... feel free to reply to mine.)
You might not have wanted the Quake servers; many others (including myself) did, and do. I doubt your tenner would exactly make a big contribution to any of their bills anyway. :)
Fear might or might be good; I wouldn't know, I couldn't face more than one Battlefield Earth books. Elron has the honour of writing the worst book that I have ever seen - bad characters, dialogue, plot, background, consistency, and just generally bad writing.
:)
;-)
Just out of curiosity, what made you like the book? and what other stuff do you read?
(So I know what to avoid, if nothing else
I use it on my own machine here, and it's caught 1 false positive (a machine in mozilla.org), and quite a few spams. I consider that a reasonable tradeoff, although I can appreciate that you'd probably look at it differently if you're an ISP. :)
AOL isn't actually the main cause of spam at present. The main sources are uu.net dialups (possibly through downstream customers who lease it), and sprintlink.net
:)
:)
(Neither of which are on ORBS because the people using them seem to do direct-to-MX spam, before anyone says anything.
If people want to do something, try complaining to the people hosting the spamvertised sites, the tools to do it (eg www.cybercreek.com), etc. Lurk in the newsgroup news.admin.net-abuse.email for a while, you'll soon see links to helpful pages.
But basically, don't go needlessly off on another AOL rampage, when they're not really doing too badly at present.
That's not quite accurate; as I understand the
patenting laws (and going from past history,
such as the early spreadsheet programs), you'd have patented a particular implementation of the algorithm. People would still be free to implement it other ways, even if that still involved memory/CPU/etc.
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Just to make a small correction to your post, not *every* business uses Office. The company that I work for doesn't - we use FrameMaker and Acrobat, and Lotus stuff for spreadsheets etc. I'm not privy to the decisions made 'at the top', but I suspect it's for much the same reason most people on slashdot don't use it.
(To forestall your next comment, it's a big enough company - turnover of about $4.25billion in 1998, if I remember the figures right.)
"YOU CANNOT...
...port any of this code in any quantity, shape or form to Windows/PC. Nanosaur and the code are happily Mac-only and we want to keep it that way."
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4.
With an attitude like that, I sure as hell won't be checking the game out.
Fairly short-sighted thinking there, though. What about, say, people listening at work? It means that you can do the beaming at home, then listen to more albums without having to cart tons of CDs into work with you.
(And no, I don't particularly want to rip everything onto the disk at work, for a multitude of reasons.)
No, it's an article about an actor. Don't think he's holographic, either, which is kind of a shame.
Hey, trolls - haven't you got something *better* to do with your time than sit on slashdot?