My wife's ATT Samsung Infuse is an example of this, the contract will be up in four months and I can root it and put in cyanogen mod, but until then I don't feel like hassling with it (not that it is hard, but the odds of a breakdown in the final months of a contract is greater than one in the first 18 months). So she is careful about what she opens in the phone, the kids are banned (even though they are also trained to be careful, they are still kids) and we hope for the best.
What? Mac hardware is not "business grade" and never has been. Mac marketing IS business grade and always has been, yes that is true and they deserve the cred for what they have achieved in that realm. To support that marketing, they provide shiny and pretty, obviously different designs based on jon Ives vision of what is interesting, appealing and different. It has worked. But the quality? Not so much. What they do is this: They contract with a manufacturer to provide a certain number of units of a part at a specific price (just like Acer or Asus might do for something they don't manufacture themselves), they spec that part in the mid-range of consumer gear (just like Asus and Acer might do for a mid-range product) they sign an agreement that this part, with these specs (especially the design aspects that fit into the overall design, like the exact dimensions, where the wires port, how they ground, the access port and other things I'm failing to think of and then they have it made, shipped to their final assembly location and then tested (just like everyone does) and shipped to you or the Apple store. Except for the marketing , the parts themselves are nothing special, certainly not reliably business grade. They do some things (for marketing purposes) like thunderbolt that also help them to differentiate their products. One of the best things they do is to dead-tech stuff faster than most manufacturers, which is a good thing IMHO. But "business grade", not so much.
yeah great. I don't fucking want a laptop. I used them from 1994 to 2005, needed them for business, but I don't want to move my computer around, I want to have a desk and a keyboard and a mouse or trackball and everything in one place that doesn't move/can't move. If a thief comes into my house they leave, cause I don't have a laptop and who would try to run out the door with a box? I have nothing )obvious) that is portable and sleep wioth doors unlocked, no guns in the house and windows open wide to the breeze in a transition neighborhood.
Why in hell would i want a laptop when it costs extra money, I have no real control over the hardware, have no desire to move it around and don't want to have someone steal it because I get up from somewhere and go to get a fresh cup of coffee?
well, you have a very old-fashioned idea of how it works. When they were kids everybody around them--friends, family, acquaintances-- all believed that money was the most important thing in the world. When they went to university they took that idea and added that if you were smart you used that learning to make yourself rich, and therefore successful, and therefore you were a good person and beloved of God. So not only is cheating people and stealing and being an ethically reprehensible person justified because your get more money out of it than the uneducated chumps, but God loves you more too.
If you doubt this you should visit Liberty university, they will straighten you out on the proper relationship between wealth and Godliness.
Thank you. The problem is not so much "patents" but rather PATENTS, as in a grossly twisted version of paper that defines any new idea (hey i've got it, how about we make a sandwich made of bread and mayonnaise and peanut butter and a slice of chocolate ice cream covered with grass clippings! and then we patent it! and then anybody who makes anything that has at least some of those parts to our sandwich, we sue them, and offer to settle for, oh say 50,000 dollars and the right to use their implementation of our "patent", which has just been justified because they settled for it. Sweet deal eh what?) as patentable and also requires that if you don't patent it and defend your patent then you could lose your rights to it. or did I just mix that up with copyright?
the only one i have is aol and aim, and that was "given" to my by aol when they took over netscape (i have a netscape account that i still use just to keep them honest)
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! I remember a movie from when I was a kid (50-60s) that starred a mutant giant crab that was terrorizing some people some where, like an island, and i don't want to be eaten by no stinking giant crab, i'm serious, no man eating damned crabs, you hear me now????
well, yes and no. Lost for a total of three days, you might say, well, so what? But what if those three days were made up of 1/2-3/4 hour segments on evenings when you finally had some free time and just wanted to play a game for once, and then after a half hour of play you lost connection for half an hour, or even just 5 minutes? would that not truly suck?
I would mod you up, but you are already up, so let me agree, but cautiously. Often, someone like yourself who has been in a real hellhole where there is war and suffering, confuse this with the parts of the world where there is just stupidity and suffering. What you saw was really worse. And, while you are right that the fools who post on/. about how we are sheeple and oppressed by the 1% and all the rest of their moaning and bitching are basically wrong, they also have a piece of truth that they build on.
Arguing against them, no matter how right and nuanced your ideas and understanding and facts, is hopeless. All it does is to stir them up. Ignore them and let them mutter off into the insignificance they deserve.
And I suggest, for yourself, that you remember that your experience in the hell of Afghanistan is unreproducible anywhere else in the world. You had a unique experience that no-one other than those there with you can imagine. This makes you unique, and it gives you a unique view of the depths of the world. I am sure, knowing humanity, that you also got to see heights of humanity that those who sat here reading the news also cannot imagine. I hope you can accept that you have been blessed by this experience, your scars are an honor.
and remember that Shah Agassi, (who first promoted the refill station where you drive in, have the battery dropped into a pit-like bay serviced by a machine, have a new battery popped in and drive away in the same time it would take to refill your car's gas tank) has some kind of deal worked with Israel where he hopes to make the entire country transport electric ASAP (maybe we can guess why they want to do that). Clearly this research is focused on his needs, and would fit in perfectly with his vision and goals, thus pushing forward the transport goals of the country.
And I was born in an Episcopalian family and have no need for Biblical inerrency. It is only those sects which demand that the Bible must be simple enough for the uneducated to discuss and understand, and is therefore without poetry, metaphor and mistake based on misunderstanding of reality from beliefs current at the time of transcription, that require biblical perfection and that it be the exact transcribed words of God. Episcopalians can accept the mistakes, the multiple versions the errency in short of the Bible and still use it as a canonical text..
While I am just an unskilled and untaught linguist, with only a Master's in the subject, my interest in the topic of "elision" bears on this subject. English has a stupendous number of rules that allow us to use elision in spoken language. I notice that your examples include quotation marks, which could very well indicate that these are examples of spoken sentences as opposed to written discourse. Because of the extensive use of elision in spoken English (say: "you gonna hafta getta new car Ted, that ones dead." and then parse the grammar without elision rules to give yourself a headache: with elision rules it is a perfectly sensible sentence.) the elision of the noun "food" is common when the listener and the speaker are both cognizant of the object. So the word "food" is merely unspoken, although known to both parties.
Now, if this were academic writing, no, it is wrong. Now because of elision rules, but because the standard of clarity is higher in academic writing and it is not, necessarily clear from the context (see below for more on this).
Now, if this were a novel, it might be acceptable if the context made it clear that we were privy to both the topic of the object (food) and the writer's/speaker's intentions at the moment of speaking.
Finally, because in general people eat food, it can easily be argued that fulfilling the requirement of understanding the object by both listener and speaker is easy in all cases because of the verb and therefore we could use elision no matter what. The standards of academic writing, however, step in and overpower the argument by pointing out that your definition of food (insects? uncooked beef or fish? pork? shellfish? raw habaneros?) or other edibles (shit, dirt, leather, the fat, bark from Korean trees) might not make it clear that you were actually advocating a particular food for lunch.
This horse is now completely beaten deep into the earth, let it go, let it go.
Well Dr Chomsky, your belief is quite interesting, but still does not reflect common practice and accepted style. I am afraid, therefore, that your belief does not really matter in this instance, but thank you for sharing!
You are correct, this is, was and has been the academic style for at least the 40 years I have been teaching. Obviously our friend above is misinformed and has probably spread that misinformation around a bit. The fun part of language, however, is that they could end up becoming a new standard if they convince enough people that they are correct. This is the fun that makes me happy that we don't have a controlling body for the English language. (Like the French Academie or the Spanish one whose name slips my feeble mind at the moment)
Agreed, I took my wife's laptop, which had slowed considerably, noticeably, and took off the cpu fan, cleaned it, blew out the cruft from the sinks and the fan and the air conduits, re-applied paste and put it back together. She was so happy that she doesn't want a new one (and this one was a 2007 purchase) which makes me happy too!
In Asia the justification for this (very, very common practice) is that the antibiotics reinforce the immune system by killing bacteria that the immune system would otherwise have to be fighting. This frees the IS for extra duty against the virus.
Yeah, it didn't convince me either...
Note, in most Asian countries antibiotics are an over the counter medication, (often everything is over the counter and the only controlling factor is cost) the doctor's "prescription" is just a way to communicate to the "pharmacist" the kind of medication needed. The person behind the counter then hands out the preparation they happen to have on hand. And if you don't speak and read the language you get the most expensive preparation available in that range.
There is no question that US money is one of the ugliest in the world. Everybody else uses nice pictures, interesting things colorfully presented and we get green dead men. We can't even succeed at convincing people to use a dollar coin, especially if it has a woman on it. What is wrong with this country?
I was having problems with my power line in to the house, surges and fluxes were a constant problem which did not kill any of th e4 desktops I run here. But the problems did burn up two routers. I considered them the canary in the mine and even though it took a number of calls and a number of visits by "engineers" (my little brother is an EE, these guys are not) I finally got somebody out with the right equipment to find the problem: bad connections at the transformer, as well as in my main to drop connections and one other connection at street pole.
Problem solved for me, but as I say, it wasn't killing my desktops. Hmm, just a random thought, what it was killing in the router was the wifi, not the LAN, so if his wifi doesn't work but the LAN does this is a possibility.
and Good Luck to him and you (i just finished doing a long distance diagnosis with my little brother about my e-bike and then spent all day yesterday tearing it apart to get to the controller because that seems to be the problem. Simple things are good, very good.)
and no one has called bullshit on this FA to begin with? Where are you Apple haters? Just talking about child-labor when there is a giant pile of BS in the basic premise?
OK, so Apple's corporate offices are 75% renewable energy, but what relationship does that have to the energy used by Foxconn and other manufacturers of the Apple products? (whose wildly inflated profits made it possible for Apple to defy the economic costs of going renewable) And then, while not the bulk of the pollution created by Apple as a company (not just the "soul-sucking" corporate entity) there is transportation around the world (what about "build locally?" if you want to justify your prices) and the cost of the waste (oh yeah, let's just move it somewhere where we don't have to deal with it).
So Apple has gone green? The possibility of any tech company truly "going green" is so far from current reality or even possibility that to make the claim is mind-numbingly stupid. Only a company that actually believes the fantasies that their marketing coke-heads dream up could publish "data" that justified themselves.
Which is why we all absolutely must be packing semi-automatic weapons with humongous ammo clips. I mean, otherwise we'll get into a firefight without adequate firepower to protect ourselves, right?
Years ago my grandmother was driving on a 4 lane highway, without a median. She saw a convenience store/ gas station on her left (this is in the US for those troubled by wrong-side road laws) and decided to turn across two lanes of on-coming traffic to get into the store. One driver avoided her by running of the road and dumping his car in a ditch. The judge, in his ruling against my grandmother told her that this was a clear case of "driver error."
My grandmother complained for years that it was wrong for my parents to take away her driving license because it was not her fault, it was "driver" error. She was not a fool, as you might think, but she was losing cognitive ability. My mother was rapidly approaching the same level of cognitive loss when we convinced her to move into assisted living. Taking away her license wasn't necessary, but it would have happened if she had fought against the inevitable.
actually, to have a properly balanced meal you need to eat snake (preferably venomous) together with dog (preferably puppy, it is more tender and delicious). That way you get a good balance of yin (the snake) and yang (the dog) in your meal.
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My wife's ATT Samsung Infuse is an example of this, the contract will be up in four months and I can root it and put in cyanogen mod, but until then I don't feel like hassling with it (not that it is hard, but the odds of a breakdown in the final months of a contract is greater than one in the first 18 months). So she is careful about what she opens in the phone, the kids are banned (even though they are also trained to be careful, they are still kids) and we hope for the best.
What? Mac hardware is not "business grade" and never has been. Mac marketing IS business grade and always has been, yes that is true and they deserve the cred for what they have achieved in that realm. To support that marketing, they provide shiny and pretty, obviously different designs based on jon Ives vision of what is interesting, appealing and different. It has worked. But the quality? Not so much. What they do is this: They contract with a manufacturer to provide a certain number of units of a part at a specific price (just like Acer or Asus might do for something they don't manufacture themselves), they spec that part in the mid-range of consumer gear (just like Asus and Acer might do for a mid-range product) they sign an agreement that this part, with these specs (especially the design aspects that fit into the overall design, like the exact dimensions, where the wires port, how they ground, the access port and other things I'm failing to think of and then they have it made, shipped to their final assembly location and then tested (just like everyone does) and shipped to you or the Apple store.
Except for the marketing , the parts themselves are nothing special, certainly not reliably business grade. They do some things (for marketing purposes) like thunderbolt that also help them to differentiate their products. One of the best things they do is to dead-tech stuff faster than most manufacturers, which is a good thing IMHO. But "business grade", not so much.
yeah great. I don't fucking want a laptop. I used them from 1994 to 2005, needed them for business, but I don't want to move my computer around, I want to have a desk and a keyboard and a mouse or trackball and everything in one place that doesn't move/can't move. If a thief comes into my house they leave, cause I don't have a laptop and who would try to run out the door with a box? I have nothing )obvious) that is portable and sleep wioth doors unlocked, no guns in the house and windows open wide to the breeze in a transition neighborhood.
Why in hell would i want a laptop when it costs extra money, I have no real control over the hardware, have no desire to move it around and don't want to have someone steal it because I get up from somewhere and go to get a fresh cup of coffee?
well, you have a very old-fashioned idea of how it works. When they were kids everybody around them--friends, family, acquaintances-- all believed that money was the most important thing in the world. When they went to university they took that idea and added that if you were smart you used that learning to make yourself rich, and therefore successful, and therefore you were a good person and beloved of God. So not only is cheating people and stealing and being an ethically reprehensible person justified because your get more money out of it than the uneducated chumps, but God loves you more too.
If you doubt this you should visit Liberty university, they will straighten you out on the proper relationship between wealth and Godliness.
Thank you. The problem is not so much "patents" but rather PATENTS, as in a grossly twisted version of paper that defines any new idea (hey i've got it, how about we make a sandwich made of bread and mayonnaise and peanut butter and a slice of chocolate ice cream covered with grass clippings! and then we patent it! and then anybody who makes anything that has at least some of those parts to our sandwich, we sue them, and offer to settle for, oh say 50,000 dollars and the right to use their implementation of our "patent", which has just been justified because they settled for it. Sweet deal eh what?) as patentable and also requires that if you don't patent it and defend your patent then you could lose your rights to it.
or did I just mix that up with copyright?
the only one i have is aol and aim, and that was "given" to my by aol when they took over netscape (i have a netscape account that i still use just to keep them honest)
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
I remember a movie from when I was a kid (50-60s) that starred a mutant giant crab that was terrorizing some people some where, like an island, and i don't want to be eaten by no stinking giant crab, i'm serious, no man eating damned crabs, you hear me now????
well, yes and no. Lost for a total of three days, you might say, well, so what? But what if those three days were made up of 1/2-3/4 hour segments on evenings when you finally had some free time and just wanted to play a game for once, and then after a half hour of play you lost connection for half an hour, or even just 5 minutes? would that not truly suck?
I would mod you up, but you are already up, so let me agree, but cautiously. Often, someone like yourself who has been in a real hellhole where there is war and suffering, confuse this with the parts of the world where there is just stupidity and suffering. What you saw was really worse. And, while you are right that the fools who post on /. about how we are sheeple and oppressed by the 1% and all the rest of their moaning and bitching are basically wrong, they also have a piece of truth that they build on.
Arguing against them, no matter how right and nuanced your ideas and understanding and facts, is hopeless. All it does is to stir them up. Ignore them and let them mutter off into the insignificance they deserve.
And I suggest, for yourself, that you remember that your experience in the hell of Afghanistan is unreproducible anywhere else in the world. You had a unique experience that no-one other than those there with you can imagine. This makes you unique, and it gives you a unique view of the depths of the world. I am sure, knowing humanity, that you also got to see heights of humanity that those who sat here reading the news also cannot imagine. I hope you can accept that you have been blessed by this experience, your scars are an honor.
I wish you peace
and remember that Shah Agassi, (who first promoted the refill station where you drive in, have the battery dropped into a pit-like bay serviced by a machine, have a new battery popped in and drive away in the same time it would take to refill your car's gas tank) has some kind of deal worked with Israel where he hopes to make the entire country transport electric ASAP (maybe we can guess why they want to do that). Clearly this research is focused on his needs, and would fit in perfectly with his vision and goals, thus pushing forward the transport goals of the country.
And I was born in an Episcopalian family and have no need for Biblical inerrency. It is only those sects which demand that the Bible must be simple enough for the uneducated to discuss and understand, and is therefore without poetry, metaphor and mistake based on misunderstanding of reality from beliefs current at the time of transcription, that require biblical perfection and that it be the exact transcribed words of God. Episcopalians can accept the mistakes, the multiple versions the errency in short of the Bible and still use it as a canonical text..
no, they went back and misspelled it a second time
While I am just an unskilled and untaught linguist, with only a Master's in the subject, my interest in the topic of "elision" bears on this subject. English has a stupendous number of rules that allow us to use elision in spoken language. I notice that your examples include quotation marks, which could very well indicate that these are examples of spoken sentences as opposed to written discourse. Because of the extensive use of elision in spoken English (say: "you gonna hafta getta new car Ted, that ones dead." and then parse the grammar without elision rules to give yourself a headache: with elision rules it is a perfectly sensible sentence.) the elision of the noun "food" is common when the listener and the speaker are both cognizant of the object. So the word "food" is merely unspoken, although known to both parties.
Now, if this were academic writing, no, it is wrong. Now because of elision rules, but because the standard of clarity is higher in academic writing and it is not, necessarily clear from the context (see below for more on this).
Now, if this were a novel, it might be acceptable if the context made it clear that we were privy to both the topic of the object (food) and the writer's/speaker's intentions at the moment of speaking.
Finally, because in general people eat food, it can easily be argued that fulfilling the requirement of understanding the object by both listener and speaker is easy in all cases because of the verb and therefore we could use elision no matter what. The standards of academic writing, however, step in and overpower the argument by pointing out that your definition of food (insects? uncooked beef or fish? pork? shellfish? raw habaneros?) or other edibles (shit, dirt, leather, the fat, bark from Korean trees) might not make it clear that you were actually advocating a particular food for lunch.
This horse is now completely beaten deep into the earth, let it go, let it go.
" I believe that both approaches are misguided."
Well Dr Chomsky, your belief is quite interesting, but still does not reflect common practice and accepted style. I am afraid, therefore, that your belief does not really matter in this instance, but thank you for sharing!
You are correct, this is, was and has been the academic style for at least the 40 years I have been teaching. Obviously our friend above is misinformed and has probably spread that misinformation around a bit. The fun part of language, however, is that they could end up becoming a new standard if they convince enough people that they are correct. This is the fun that makes me happy that we don't have a controlling body for the English language. (Like the French Academie or the Spanish one whose name slips my feeble mind at the moment)
Agreed, I took my wife's laptop, which had slowed considerably, noticeably, and took off the cpu fan, cleaned it, blew out the cruft from the sinks and the fan and the air conduits, re-applied paste and put it back together. She was so happy that she doesn't want a new one (and this one was a 2007 purchase) which makes me happy too!
In Asia the justification for this (very, very common practice) is that the antibiotics reinforce the immune system by killing bacteria that the immune system would otherwise have to be fighting. This frees the IS for extra duty against the virus.
Yeah, it didn't convince me either...
Note, in most Asian countries antibiotics are an over the counter medication, (often everything is over the counter and the only controlling factor is cost) the doctor's "prescription" is just a way to communicate to the "pharmacist" the kind of medication needed. The person behind the counter then hands out the preparation they happen to have on hand. And if you don't speak and read the language you get the most expensive preparation available in that range.
There is no question that US money is one of the ugliest in the world. Everybody else uses nice pictures, interesting things colorfully presented and we get green dead men. We can't even succeed at convincing people to use a dollar coin, especially if it has a woman on it. What is wrong with this country?
I was having problems with my power line in to the house, surges and fluxes were a constant problem which did not kill any of th e4 desktops I run here. But the problems did burn up two routers. I considered them the canary in the mine and even though it took a number of calls and a number of visits by "engineers" (my little brother is an EE, these guys are not) I finally got somebody out with the right equipment to find the problem: bad connections at the transformer, as well as in my main to drop connections and one other connection at street pole.
Problem solved for me, but as I say, it wasn't killing my desktops. Hmm, just a random thought, what it was killing in the router was the wifi, not the LAN, so if his wifi doesn't work but the LAN does this is a possibility.
and Good Luck to him and you (i just finished doing a long distance diagnosis with my little brother about my e-bike and then spent all day yesterday tearing it apart to get to the controller because that seems to be the problem. Simple things are good, very good.)
and no one has called bullshit on this FA to begin with? Where are you Apple haters? Just talking about child-labor when there is a giant pile of BS in the basic premise?
OK, so Apple's corporate offices are 75% renewable energy, but what relationship does that have to the energy used by Foxconn and other manufacturers of the Apple products? (whose wildly inflated profits made it possible for Apple to defy the economic costs of going renewable) And then, while not the bulk of the pollution created by Apple as a company (not just the "soul-sucking" corporate entity) there is transportation around the world (what about "build locally?" if you want to justify your prices) and the cost of the waste (oh yeah, let's just move it somewhere where we don't have to deal with it).
So Apple has gone green? The possibility of any tech company truly "going green" is so far from current reality or even possibility that to make the claim is mind-numbingly stupid. Only a company that actually believes the fantasies that their marketing coke-heads dream up could publish "data" that justified themselves.
Did I mention I was calling BS on this?
Which is why we all absolutely must be packing semi-automatic weapons with humongous ammo clips. I mean, otherwise we'll get into a firefight without adequate firepower to protect ourselves, right?
Years ago my grandmother was driving on a 4 lane highway, without a median. She saw a convenience store/ gas station on her left (this is in the US for those troubled by wrong-side road laws) and decided to turn across two lanes of on-coming traffic to get into the store. One driver avoided her by running of the road and dumping his car in a ditch. The judge, in his ruling against my grandmother told her that this was a clear case of "driver error."
My grandmother complained for years that it was wrong for my parents to take away her driving license because it was not her fault, it was "driver" error. She was not a fool, as you might think, but she was losing cognitive ability. My mother was rapidly approaching the same level of cognitive loss when we convinced her to move into assisted living. Taking away her license wasn't necessary, but it would have happened if she had fought against the inevitable.
agreed, and I just bought my son and e-ink reader for $40 last Xmas, so tell me why I would pay money for this?
wait, a vegetarian complaining about being annoying?
actually, to have a properly balanced meal you need to eat snake (preferably venomous) together with dog (preferably puppy, it is more tender and delicious). That way you get a good balance of yin (the snake) and yang (the dog) in your meal.