Okay, well, since you don't list anything else (moron) I'll have to assume your "list" is inclusive. In that case avoid sheep, fish and beef from unknown sources. Still not a hard life, really. Even if it does include all meat products, again, being selective of _what_ meat products you eat will reduce the risk. It isn't rocket science, and it isn't particularly difficult.
Sure did AC. I'll quote the relevant sections for you:
Ketosis is only dangerous in people who lack adequate insulin
An MD isn't so sure about that. I don't see your doctor's license.
namely type 1 diabetics, and in some cases type 2 diabetics
Type 2 diabetes being caused, sometimes, by being fat. Fat people use diets.
Normal people are fully capable of using fat for energy in ketosis
But not if they're fat, because they might have diabetes and not know it.
it's only when insulin is absent that the condition turns dangerous, and the result is ketoacidosis
Great. Which fat people may possibly be afflicted with. Because they could have diabetes and not know it.
Do a Google search on the two terms for more information.
How do you think I found the MD's article? Magic?
And, as a type 1 diabetic, I know what Ketoacidosis is and feels like from experience, and it's nothing like dietary ketosis (which I've used to keep nearly normal blood sugars).
Great. Is it dangerous for you to do this? Would you reccomend the diet to someone else who might have a hidden case of diabetes?
>I'm Type 1, not type 2. I don't need to be tested for type 2.
Great, but I'm discussing slashdot in general, really not you in particular, since you seem to know your own situation quite well.
>The whole point of these studies is determine the safety level. There's a lot of fud out there, and you're just continuing to spout it.
I'm just quoting MDs. If they're producing FUD, perhaps you should sue them? I prefer not to be a test subject for a diet that has unknown, but possibly dangerous consequences. What do you think?
>There are societies such as many "Native" peoples (Americans, Australians, Eskimos, etc) where the high-carb western diet has hurt them severely. It causes high rates of type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and a variety of other problems. They did just fine on a low-carb diet for thousands of years.
Great for them!
>In the years since the government has been pushing a high-carb, low-fat diet, obesity has sky-rocketed, as has the rate of type 2 diabets and heart disease. Coincidence?
Yes, it is just a coincidence. The cause is clearly the lack of time for people to properly prepare a quality meal rather than eat a 3 minute microwave meal with 231% of your RDI of cholesterol and stopping at McDs for a quick bite when you're out of time.
But go ahead and blame it on the diet the Quakers ate for a hundred years and managed to stay slim on! Why not? It's easy to do because nobody but hippies eat like the government reccomends anymore anyways!
Nearly six million people in the United States have type 2 diabetes and do not know it.
Be sure to get tested for it before going on this diet.
Some quotes about the dangers, from an MD that believes Ketosis is dangerous:
Dr. Atkins' "induction phase" may cause problems in persons who typically consume large quantities of carbohydrates, or who are prone to hypoglycermia (low blood sugar), because their bodies may not be able to produce either glucose or ketones fast enough to supply the requirements of the brain and muscle activity, causing fatigue which may be sudden or extreme. I am aware of numerous persons who have had major problems with this aspect of the Atkins diet.
One issue which has not been studied adequately is that of potential calcium and bone loss from acidification of the bloodstream by ketones over a prolonged period of time.
However, even in these persons the ongoing state of ketosis may present hazards which are not known at this time, and may not be necessary for weight loss.
The Atkins' diet does not restrict protein intake, which is the correct approach.
Persons who do not have a weight problem and are seeking a long-term maintenance low carbohydrate diet, and those who are only mildly overweight, are probably better off limiting carbs to a lesser degree than recommended by Dr. Atkins, and avoiding high levels of ketosis that are not necessary to achieve their goals.
I just want slashdotters to know that this diet is less safe than the traditional diet of limiting the amount of food intake and slowly increasing your amount of exercise.
>Its not like they have a "NON-DISTRO KERNEL DETECTOR" that will cause them to break on bootup
I didn't say they would break whatsoever. I did say that you would have problems with what's supposed to make these other distros so great (namely the autoconfig). Has redhat (et al) fixed their autoconfig to support monolithic kernels yet? I very, very, highly doubt it. If you plan to configure your box by hand, what makes RedHat (et al) so choice?
Please read more closely before you put words in people's mouths, most especially when others can see the comment. It can make you look quite silly.
Because, quite simply, a lot (not all) of other distros quit working well (as in automated) if you use a handbuilt kernel. Since (unlike these distros) slackware works very well with a handbuilt kernel, it's become slackware specific (which sucks, IMHO).
>LOL! It's not a bug, it's a feature. Macrovision is actually helping them out! Right!!!
So you suggest the world should bend to the needs of penny-pinching people to own the lowest quality VCR possible? Yikes! Do you suggest using a VCR that isn't UL/CSA/CE/BSA/whatever approved to save money as well?!?
I mean, we could have a better frame rate with TV if we didn't have to put up with all this high-falootin' colour TV crap. Give me my old Radiola!
Get with it. You buy the cheapest piece of trash made, you should count yourself lucky it even does the main thing it's intended to do (in this case play and record videotapes). The argument that a trash VCR's minor, hardly used features aren't up to scratch being a reason that Macrovision on DVDs is bad is specious, at best.
At least say that it means you can't easily dub the movie. But then we're inconveniencing, what, 100 people worldwide? Hardly worth writing home about.
>I guess you don't know anyone with a tv that has only rf-input.
I do.
>They tend to hook their DVD player up to their VCRs to convert composite to RF.
Then they're being silly. You can't blame the DVD for what's the VCRs fault.
>It doesn't work because of Macrovision.
No, it doesn't work because their VCR cost $40 and doesn't switch out the AGC when doing pass-through, or it cost $700 and was made in 1984. The Macrovision just lets you see the poor design of the VCR. It's almost a good thing, since it'll help you see the difference between a $40 VCR and a $200 VCR.
My friend's setup works fine passing through their VCR, but they paid over $200 for it, so they got what they paid for.
>They don't know why - they aren't a/v geeks, else they would have newer equipment, it just either looks like total crap or they don't even get a picture.
Well, that's true. Then again, they're used to most of their TV experience not working well, so while it's not that they don't care, they really don't expect much. I mean, if their TV only has RF in it's older than most cars on the road today! Why do people expect their TV to work fine after a decade, but when their car breaks after 5 "that's just 'cause it's getting old"? Beats me.
I'm surprised the people who blame the DVD player for their VCRs fault don't expect their black and white TV to magically becomes colour when their DVD player is hooked up to it.
Next time reccomend they get a video stabiliser!:-) I picked one up for $20. And they're (amazingly) still totally legal in the US.
If it bears the DVD logo legally, it's authorized. Part of getting the DVD logo for a player is buying the rights to play CSS content.
Buying the disc and owning a player capable of playing it are two different things. People with regular VHS didn't complain that their HiFi tapes didn't play in stereo. Not that I'm happy with the Linux situation, but there's a certain reasoning has to go into buying media. If you can't play it, perhaps buying it isn't a good idea.
The majority of players the public sees are like this. Also, the majority of unauthorized players can still play CSS content, if you ignore the law (and the majority of consumers don't regard "piracy" style laws as anything important, especially if they're already paid their half of the bargain).
>That comes with a variety of copy prevention technology (encryption, Macrovision)? Doesn't seem to have hurt it much.
Yes, but unlike its cousin that was stillborn (DiVX) the DVD format's encryption was optional. Also macrovision was removable almost from day 1, making analog copies (the only ones practical for a home user at the time) very possible. This also goes for region coding.
Because the encryption is totally seamless and invisible to the end user, the end user never cared. I have never heard of a single person, apart from people using unauthorized players, who has ever bought a DVD that was unable to play a disc, assuming their player follows all the standards, due to the encryption present for any reason whatsoever (apart from region coding, which is trivial to remove on most all players, and only effects a small segment of the population).
DRM, however, is intended to be obvious. DRM will not let the consumer do everything they want to without serious limits (physical, not legal) that they will almost surely encounter. That's what's the killer, and that's what made DiVX die, and it's why this format is another waste of someone's time and effort.
Yes, but you can virtually guarantee you won't get AIDS if you engage brain before putting jewels in motion. Considering how often geeks get lucky, I'd suggest the possibility getting AIDS for most people on slashdot is... 0.0001%?:)
The same argument also applies to CJD. Leprosy is somewhat more contagious, as is TB, but AFAIK, these are treatable.
SARS isn't exactly like that, unless you walk about with a gas mask on.
Well, seems you have a better handle on this than myself, so perhaps you could explain to me why the anti-hate-speech laws that are in the criminal code of Canada can exist when they are clearly in contradiction of section 2 of the charter?
I mean, that's not even a provincial decision, and, AFAIK, that isn't renewed every 5 years.
Just wondering... there's a lot more laws that don't get renewed that are in contradiction to that section as well.
There is clear historical evidence he existed. Any debate would be over whether he had supernatural powers or not, which isn't provable unless you could timewarp.
>Is the sun really going to blow up in 10,00,000 years?
Again, I'm sure a good Physicist can tell you the answer.
And internet over powerlines only has to be tested to show it works. And it has been, and it does work. Just not all that well.
>By the way, this comes right out of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, a Constitution Act (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/). Maybe you should do your reading before opening your mouth.
I will if you will!
33. (1) Parliament or the legislature of a province may expressly declare in an Act of Parliament or of the legislature, as the case may be, that the Act or a provision thereof shall operate notwithstanding a provision included in section 2 or sections 7 to 15 of this Charter.
In other words, it isn't worth the toilet paper it should be printed on.
>That $50 printer comes with a "sample" cartridge. What that means is you get a cartridge that's deliberately only 25% or whatever full.
And, I'm willing to bet, if you don't turn it on, the chip won't know how much ink is in the cartridge 'till then.
"refill" the cartridge before putting it in the printer, and voila: Money saved.
Besides, for me it was a $49 CDN Apollo printer for $9.99, and the replacement carts are $49 each (colour and black). It's printed at least 30 pages by now so I've already gotten my money's worth.
I have a laserjet 2 1/2. Was a laserjet 2 with over 100k pages on it, ripped the laserjet 2 controller board out not so long ago to replace it with a laserjet 3 board. The thing is built like a tank, and everything but the controller boards is available OEM (at that point HP was still using generic engines).
Nowadays with everything specialized to the manufacturer, and almost no metal in the printers, yeah, they're crap. Buy an old LJ though, cost you about $50, and you'll never need a another printer for a decade. Plus you'll pay $30 for 2000 pages worth of toner.
>There's also cool stuff like(gasp!) water, fruit juice, and vegetable juice. All three are much healthier for you, and(at least IMHO) taste better.
Actually, soft drinks are generally prescribed to patients with weak stomachs as they are easier on the body. Ginger ale being the most popular of the lot.
Of course, water is the best, but if the patient wants sugar, may as well make if safe.
Oh, and vegetable juice gonna give you the runs a hell of a lot faster than a large soda ever could. Sometimes that's not a good thing.
So, if you went to an event where they gave you free food, a free gun, and free shooting lessons, you'd be fine if at the end they gave you a pamphlet on the best way to shoot Charlton Heston?
Encouraging people to break laws is encouraging people to break laws. If the encouragement is ironic, it's only that much more juicier a story.
It takes a lot more than some free food and free junk to cloud my judgement.
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>No to mention, that many ISPs don't allow FROM field to contain domain names different from their own.
Fine, talk to your ISP and go oldskool:
oblom!mybox.com@myisp.net
Now you both win, plus everyone will remember you as the only guy with a ! in his email.
That's fine, and I doubt he'll feel there's any loss over the fact that he can't talk with one person on the internet.
Okay, well, since you don't list anything else (moron) I'll have to assume your "list" is inclusive. In that case avoid sheep, fish and beef from unknown sources. Still not a hard life, really. Even if it does include all meat products, again, being selective of _what_ meat products you eat will reduce the risk. It isn't rocket science, and it isn't particularly difficult.
>Did you read what I wrote?
Sure did AC. I'll quote the relevant sections for you:
Ketosis is only dangerous in people who lack adequate insulin
An MD isn't so sure about that. I don't see your doctor's license.
namely type 1 diabetics, and in some cases type 2 diabetics
Type 2 diabetes being caused, sometimes, by being fat. Fat people use diets.
Normal people are fully capable of using fat for energy in ketosis
But not if they're fat, because they might have diabetes and not know it.
it's only when insulin is absent that the condition turns dangerous, and the result is ketoacidosis
Great. Which fat people may possibly be afflicted with. Because they could have diabetes and not know it.
Do a Google search on the two terms for more information.
How do you think I found the MD's article? Magic?
And, as a type 1 diabetic, I know what Ketoacidosis is and feels like from experience, and it's nothing like dietary ketosis (which I've used to keep nearly normal blood sugars).
Great. Is it dangerous for you to do this? Would you reccomend the diet to someone else who might have a hidden case of diabetes?
>I'm Type 1, not type 2. I don't need to be tested for type 2.
Great, but I'm discussing slashdot in general, really not you in particular, since you seem to know your own situation quite well.
>The whole point of these studies is determine the safety level. There's a lot of fud out there, and you're just continuing to spout it.
I'm just quoting MDs. If they're producing FUD, perhaps you should sue them? I prefer not to be a test subject for a diet that has unknown, but possibly dangerous consequences. What do you think?
>There are societies such as many "Native" peoples (Americans, Australians, Eskimos, etc) where the high-carb western diet has hurt them severely. It causes high rates of type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and a variety of other problems. They did just fine on a low-carb diet for thousands of years.
Great for them!
>In the years since the government has been pushing a high-carb, low-fat diet, obesity has sky-rocketed, as has the rate of type 2 diabets and heart disease. Coincidence?
Yes, it is just a coincidence. The cause is clearly the lack of time for people to properly prepare a quality meal rather than eat a 3 minute microwave meal with 231% of your RDI of cholesterol and stopping at McDs for a quick bite when you're out of time.
But go ahead and blame it on the diet the Quakers ate for a hundred years and managed to stay slim on! Why not? It's easy to do because nobody but hippies eat like the government reccomends anymore anyways!
>Ketosis is only dangerous in people who lack adequate insulin, namely type 1 diabetics, and in some cases type 2 diabetics.
Type 2 diabetes often caused by being fat.
Nearly six million people in the United States have type 2 diabetes and do not know it.
Be sure to get tested for it before going on this diet.
Some quotes about the dangers, from an MD that believes Ketosis is dangerous:
Dr. Atkins' "induction phase" may cause problems in persons who typically consume large quantities of carbohydrates, or who are prone to hypoglycermia (low blood sugar), because their bodies may not be able to produce either glucose or ketones fast enough to supply the requirements of the brain and muscle activity, causing fatigue which may be sudden or extreme. I am aware of numerous persons who have had major problems with this aspect of the Atkins diet.
One issue which has not been studied adequately is that of potential calcium and bone loss from acidification of the bloodstream by ketones over a prolonged period of time.
However, even in these persons the ongoing state of ketosis may present hazards which are not known at this time, and may not be necessary for weight loss.
The Atkins' diet does not restrict protein intake, which is the correct approach.
Persons who do not have a weight problem and are seeking a long-term maintenance low carbohydrate diet, and those who are only mildly overweight, are probably better off limiting carbs to a lesser degree than recommended by Dr. Atkins, and avoiding high levels of ketosis that are not necessary to achieve their goals.
I just want slashdotters to know that this diet is less safe than the traditional diet of limiting the amount of food intake and slowly increasing your amount of exercise.
Because sometimes a seriously dangerous disease is a benefit!
Ketosis can lead to coma and death if untreated.
Enjoy!
>Its not like they have a "NON-DISTRO KERNEL DETECTOR" that will cause them to break on bootup
I didn't say they would break whatsoever. I did say that you would have problems with what's supposed to make these other distros so great (namely the autoconfig). Has redhat (et al) fixed their autoconfig to support monolithic kernels yet? I very, very, highly doubt it. If you plan to configure your box by hand, what makes RedHat (et al) so choice?
Please read more closely before you put words in people's mouths, most especially when others can see the comment. It can make you look quite silly.
>Why is this Slackware specific.
Because, quite simply, a lot (not all) of other distros quit working well (as in automated) if you use a handbuilt kernel. Since (unlike these distros) slackware works very well with a handbuilt kernel, it's become slackware specific (which sucks, IMHO).
>LOL! It's not a bug, it's a feature. Macrovision is actually helping them out! Right!!!
So you suggest the world should bend to the needs of penny-pinching people to own the lowest quality VCR possible? Yikes! Do you suggest using a VCR that isn't UL/CSA/CE/BSA/whatever approved to save money as well?!?
I mean, we could have a better frame rate with TV if we didn't have to put up with all this high-falootin' colour TV crap. Give me my old Radiola!
Get with it. You buy the cheapest piece of trash made, you should count yourself lucky it even does the main thing it's intended to do (in this case play and record videotapes). The argument that a trash VCR's minor, hardly used features aren't up to scratch being a reason that Macrovision on DVDs is bad is specious, at best.
At least say that it means you can't easily dub the movie. But then we're inconveniencing, what, 100 people worldwide? Hardly worth writing home about.
>I guess you don't know anyone with a tv that has only rf-input.
:-) I picked one up for $20. And they're (amazingly) still totally legal in the US.
I do.
>They tend to hook their DVD player up to their VCRs to convert composite to RF.
Then they're being silly. You can't blame the DVD for what's the VCRs fault.
>It doesn't work because of Macrovision.
No, it doesn't work because their VCR cost $40 and doesn't switch out the AGC when doing pass-through, or it cost $700 and was made in 1984. The Macrovision just lets you see the poor design of the VCR. It's almost a good thing, since it'll help you see the difference between a $40 VCR and a $200 VCR.
My friend's setup works fine passing through their VCR, but they paid over $200 for it, so they got what they paid for.
>They don't know why - they aren't a/v geeks, else they would have newer equipment, it just either looks like total crap or they don't even get a picture.
Well, that's true. Then again, they're used to most of their TV experience not working well, so while it's not that they don't care, they really don't expect much. I mean, if their TV only has RF in it's older than most cars on the road today! Why do people expect their TV to work fine after a decade, but when their car breaks after 5 "that's just 'cause it's getting old"? Beats me.
I'm surprised the people who blame the DVD player for their VCRs fault don't expect their black and white TV to magically becomes colour when their DVD player is hooked up to it.
Next time reccomend they get a video stabiliser!
>So what "authorizes" a player in your view?
If it bears the DVD logo legally, it's authorized. Part of getting the DVD logo for a player is buying the rights to play CSS content.
Buying the disc and owning a player capable of playing it are two different things. People with regular VHS didn't complain that their HiFi tapes didn't play in stereo. Not that I'm happy with the Linux situation, but there's a certain reasoning has to go into buying media. If you can't play it, perhaps buying it isn't a good idea.
The majority of players the public sees are like this. Also, the majority of unauthorized players can still play CSS content, if you ignore the law (and the majority of consumers don't regard "piracy" style laws as anything important, especially if they're already paid their half of the bargain).
Being forced to watch content is more of an annoyance than a limitation.
I suppose if you're pressed for time, it's a limitation, but it doesn't prevent you from viewing the movie.
>That comes with a variety of copy prevention technology (encryption, Macrovision)? Doesn't seem to have hurt it much.
Yes, but unlike its cousin that was stillborn (DiVX) the DVD format's encryption was optional. Also macrovision was removable almost from day 1, making analog copies (the only ones practical for a home user at the time) very possible. This also goes for region coding.
Because the encryption is totally seamless and invisible to the end user, the end user never cared. I have never heard of a single person, apart from people using unauthorized players, who has ever bought a DVD that was unable to play a disc, assuming their player follows all the standards, due to the encryption present for any reason whatsoever (apart from region coding, which is trivial to remove on most all players, and only effects a small segment of the population).
DRM, however, is intended to be obvious. DRM will not let the consumer do everything they want to without serious limits (physical, not legal) that they will almost surely encounter. That's what's the killer, and that's what made DiVX die, and it's why this format is another waste of someone's time and effort.
>Your saying that if you use your brain you can avoid CJD?
:)
Yes, if you're deathly afraid of it don't eat beef (or at least be sure of it's source).
Problem solved. Methinks you and I can live with a little less beef.
Yes, but you can virtually guarantee you won't get AIDS if you engage brain before putting jewels in motion. Considering how often geeks get lucky, I'd suggest the possibility getting AIDS for most people on slashdot is... 0.0001%? :)
The same argument also applies to CJD. Leprosy is somewhat more contagious, as is TB, but AFAIK, these are treatable.
SARS isn't exactly like that, unless you walk about with a gas mask on.
Indexing against SSNs is breaking the law here.
Well, seems you have a better handle on this than myself, so perhaps you could explain to me why the anti-hate-speech laws that are in the criminal code of Canada can exist when they are clearly in contradiction of section 2 of the charter?
I mean, that's not even a provincial decision, and, AFAIK, that isn't renewed every 5 years.
Just wondering... there's a lot more laws that don't get renewed that are in contradiction to that section as well.
>Did Jesus really exist or just a myth?
There is clear historical evidence he existed. Any debate would be over whether he had supernatural powers or not, which isn't provable unless you could timewarp.
>Is the sun really going to blow up in 10,00,000 years?
Again, I'm sure a good Physicist can tell you the answer.
And internet over powerlines only has to be tested to show it works. And it has been, and it does work. Just not all that well.
I will if you will!
In other words, it isn't worth the toilet paper it should be printed on.
>That $50 printer comes with a "sample" cartridge. What that means is you get a cartridge that's deliberately only 25% or whatever full.
And, I'm willing to bet, if you don't turn it on, the chip won't know how much ink is in the cartridge 'till then.
"refill" the cartridge before putting it in the printer, and voila: Money saved.
Besides, for me it was a $49 CDN Apollo printer for $9.99, and the replacement carts are $49 each (colour and black). It's printed at least 30 pages by now so I've already gotten my money's worth.
Look harder, think smarter. That's how to win.
If it isn't chipped, all the better.
I have a laserjet 2 1/2. Was a laserjet 2 with over 100k pages on it, ripped the laserjet 2 controller board out not so long ago to replace it with a laserjet 3 board. The thing is built like a tank, and everything but the controller boards is available OEM (at that point HP was still using generic engines).
Nowadays with everything specialized to the manufacturer, and almost no metal in the printers, yeah, they're crap. Buy an old LJ though, cost you about $50, and you'll never need a another printer for a decade. Plus you'll pay $30 for 2000 pages worth of toner.
>Is that really a big stinking deal in this case?
Yes. This is Microsoft we're talking about here (well, an M$ sponsored project). Wonder what it'll phone home with today?
But hey, it's all your own personal choice.
Now, if it were coming from a trusted company, not a problem. I never had major problems with VMWare being binary, for example.
>There's also cool stuff like(gasp!) water, fruit juice, and vegetable juice. All three are much healthier for you, and(at least IMHO) taste better.
Actually, soft drinks are generally prescribed to patients with weak stomachs as they are easier on the body. Ginger ale being the most popular of the lot.
Of course, water is the best, but if the patient wants sugar, may as well make if safe.
Oh, and vegetable juice gonna give you the runs a hell of a lot faster than a large soda ever could. Sometimes that's not a good thing.
To rebut this properly, I need to ask you a question:
>The simple truth remains, however, that if one offers a copyrighted work to others, free of charge, that is stealing.
Who is it you belive is being burglarized in this instance?
So, if you went to an event where they gave you free food, a free gun, and free shooting lessons, you'd be fine if at the end they gave you a pamphlet on the best way to shoot Charlton Heston?
Encouraging people to break laws is encouraging people to break laws. If the encouragement is ironic, it's only that much more juicier a story.
It takes a lot more than some free food and free junk to cloud my judgement.