Now luckily, I was able to convince an upper level rep that I could have rooted my phone and tethered it, but I chose to get the 3G stick to be fair and make sure they received a reasonable amount of compensation for services provided. Until I laid this on them they absolutely were not going to budge at all. I am very much the exception, as obviously the average customer doesn't even understand what I just wrote, so they would have been just straight screwed.
A buddy of mine actually went and paid the extra 50 dollars (per month) for the "unlimitted data plan" on his phone - based on the assumption that worst case scenario, when his laptop doesn't have Wifi, he can tether it to get internet access. At work we have an out-dated system that we're trying to replace where IS Requests come in via outlook form emails. Most phones aren't capable of displaying the actual outlook form, you need to have the actual full version of outlook that comes with Office, not the web services or outlook express or anything like that. Some people just send in straight emails and don't use the forms. Which means for the most part - we'll know whats going on by either a readable email, or the subject that comes in on an outlook form. But theres the odd occaisons where it's needed.
My buddy goes and tethers to get his laptop to open the outlook forms - something he wouldn't have to have done if Windows Mobile was even a proper shoehorn for Windows products. He gets somewhere around 10 megs of traffic total, his bill jumped up by 300 dollars. Even without going over his limit, tethering was apparently not allowed - and wasn't covered in the data plan.
He argued to get them to drop the charges to something like 45 bucks, but it's still highway robbery. He didn't cause any more network stress on their end than what he had paid for, which was already the premium service, and they STILL took any chance they could get to nickel and dime him. I am sadly still under contract with this same provider, I'll be switching in Decemebr when its over.
I mean if its a little square box with a blinking red light, I think I can figure it out. If it looks inconspicuous enough, how do I know if I'm removing a GPS device or the bolt that seals my oil pan?
Exactly. I don't think people realize how hard it is to actually clean off an infected machine without internet access.
If an ISP shuts down your internet, the 2 desktops and a Laptop you have will all be useless till you run the Laptop over to a hotspot or jump on a PC at the library just to go and find the latest antivirus version of Malware Bytes or whatever.
Reinstalling your OS isn't always an option because then you don't have the drivers for your NIC Card.
I can't think of a single instance where I was able to clean a virus off of a computer without at least resorting to googling the infection type to find what AV would disinfect it properly.
So you're saying that instead ISP's should go and arrest Bot-infected users to keep them from using the internet instead of taking their computers off the road.
I also like to think that they are the ones who actually know the secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices involved in the KFC chicken, but a majority of the people out there couldn't handle it if they knew it.
Clearly - the best way for him to get around this legal debacle, is to take the breaking into and shutting down process and make it into a simple shell script.
With Robots fighting robots, he's not actually breaking into the accounts, they aren't actually registering, and its all fair game. And then when people claim that they were in fact the ones registering the accounts, they can stand before the court with 2000+ charges against the CAN-SPAM act.
There's more to spam than just covering the page. He says the main reason he got into this was that spam was slowing his forums down. Wasted Bandwidth.
Right.... until they start adding commercials to books as electronic readers start becoming more mainstream. You won't be able to turn the page until you sit through this 15 second commercial that the publisher figures might interest you based on the content of the book.
And if your choice is watching that with not having to pay for the book versus shelling out the usual $20 for the book... I might actually opt for that.
It'll be a $20 a month subscription fee for the eReader with those ads on top. And you should be so lucky to get a $2 skip ads option.
The content creators are addressing your complaints
What... Google offering $2 to skip commercials? That doesn't sound like the content creators are providing the solution, it sounds like the distributor is providing the solution. And the solution costs you money on top of paying for the service.
Oh, and saying "Go Watch a show without commercials to help push this market" is ridiculous. What if he doesn't like those shows, those times don't work out, or doesn't have that network?
I didn't understand anything about the story to be an energy field. I understood it that everything with a composition of protons and electrons will eventually force all the electrons to one side creating a magnetic like object so long as you introduce a strong enough magnetic force.
Not on some finger greased up portable small ass screen that is easily broken by a 10yr old pitching a fit when she loses a level / life.
You are mistaking his definition of Portable as today's definition of Portable.
From Mark from the Article:
Imagine a future Xbox 360 that is actually a tablet you carry around. It will have more power than 360 does today, with technology like Kinect built right in. Imagine walking into a bar with some friends, propping it up on the table and playing games like Dance Central or Kinect Adventures anywhere you go.
"Then when you get home that same device will use technology like AirPlay or wireless HDMI to connect to your big screen, you’ll pick up a wireless controller, or use your phone as controller, to play games like Gears of War.
Sometimes the information is used for statistical purposes (people from 9 county prefer the east side of the lot, 22 county prefers the west side). For targeted ads, it's more like having a free parking space downtown, provided you give your name, address, and license plate number. Then they take that and say 'hey, Bob likes to park downtown on Wednesdays, so I'll print up a few flyers with his name and leave them with the attendant to deliver when he gets there.' Then they take the next step and start charging the local shops, as well as exchanging info.
And THIS is where it should be illegal. I have no issues with Google collecting my information and using it for their advertising purposes because thats basically what I signed onto when I signed up for their services. If I don't like it, there is competition. I don't think of the internet as a strictly public space - I can't just wander around it like a park, anytime I do my ISP calls up and goes "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? Port Scanning our Equipment is against the TOS" or some racket like that. Those kinds of security measures in place for good reason. So the information I give to advertisers is not "publicly free" information. It is privately between me and the company the Ad is for. The advertisers can statistically see how many people are hitting the ads but they shouldn't be able to determin who. If they want to determin who they should have to ask us first. If we give them that information they should not be able to sell it to whoever, without my express permission. If I give my phone number to a friend and he goes and writes it on every bathroom stall in the city telling people to call me for a good time, there are actually laws in place that I can use, under some form of harassment.
I agree. I think if anyone wants information from me they should have to ask me for it. They should not be able to collect any more information on me anymore than I should be able to collect information on whoever is interested and using the data. And if that's an advertising firm with 200+ employees than I want the browsing habits of all 200+ employees. I'd probably settle for just the CEO. Just a simple exchange of information, right? No different than sharing our names. But like I said earlier, they should have to ask, and I should have the right to refuse. Simple as that. Why should browsing habits be considered any less private than how I put on my pants in the morning, yet if someone wanted to sit outside my window and take readings on that - I could get them arrested.
I played at launch and quit towards the end of Burning Crusade, I had just had enough. Like you, my last 5 to 6 months were not much more than 2 hours a week, just to kill time before actually heading out and doing something. I had originally started WoW with 3 other friends, one of which became addicted and we forced him to quit cold turkey before Burning Crusade came out.* The other friend quit on his own when he found he was running out of time. He wanted to get into Engineering so the work-load for a class like that is pretty big. Not enough time to play. He's since started playing again but only since WotLK, and even now I don't think he plays it too often. That left me and my other friend playing Burning Crusade for a while, and Having done all the raiding I could care for, the only appeal for the game was the introduction of Arenas. We started a 2v2 team to see how we could do. We weren't one of those omg gamestopping combos that win nearly everytime, but we won more than we lost (I think 1700 rating pretty consistantly). Once we found that all the gear was attainable by simply playing a few games every week - and maintaining a decent rating - it kind of lost its appeal.
Eventually it just got to a point where it was like "What do you want to do?" - the Arenas were not enough to keep us playing. If I went on and he wasn't on, I'd log. And Vice Versa. We didn't really care enough to schedule times - its just a game afterall meant to kill some time when either of us have spare time. Eventually my partner and I tried Eve Online, and that did us for a spell because it was fresh and new. We've quit that though - the game doesn't seem to have any real end in sight and a lot of the progression is just spending real life time to get your skills up, or saving up for the next ship. I never really could get a hang of really getting into the game and what its mostly really about (Backstabbing and trickery and deception for money).
So I just don't really play MMO's anymore. If there was still a good social aspect to it, I might play, but it has to be with people I know. Guildies are people I just can't get a real connection to because I may never meet them, so anything I say to offend them will only ever have consequences inside the game and how much I care about the game can change as much as I want it to. Whereas my brother won't go away, so I need to be his friend, you know?
Like you said, the only real draw after a really long time is the community aspect. "Doing the same thing over and over" does lose its appeal but its different everytime when you do it with friends. Just like watching Sports, there will be differences in plays, going to movies feature different films, they are all slightly different each time you do them, but its the people you share it with that make each activity unique and fun. So I guess the only real difference between you and I is that you were capable of establishing really good friendships with the people you met online, or the people you know still play.
*I know it might sound a bit hypocritical, WoW players getting a friend to quit WoW while still playing themselves, but he would skip school, ditch parties, it wasn't good for him. He found a girlfriend who doesn't play, that helps. She likes Starcraft though, so thats a plus.
Survival rate for things like this sometimes have a cutoff date of 180 days, or 24 weeks or something along those lines. At which case you can mostly assume that any rarities during birth will have had their effect and if the child was going to die because of those complications it would have happened already.
So, in your attempt to sound like a hip smug knowitall who points out something the opening poster didn't realize you came off as an idiot who tries too hard to smart. We won't even bother with your political ramblings.
Well thats already an issue - I've seen Malware that makes fake "Blue Screen of Death" with the warning about viruses. You can't Alt+tab or Alt+f4 out of it, CTRL+ALT+Delete does nothing, it acts just like a Blue Screen of Death except for 2 things: Your mouse is still visible and moves, and it'll actually go away if you leave it for 5 minutes - instead of everyones initial reaction to reboot the machine.
I always wondered how it was they managed to bypass all the other functions that I should have had available, but THIS makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of malware already exists.
Currently it exercises no real power over the planet but it's the place where most of the world can be represented at once in a single room.
I mean, until we have unification across the globe there isn't any real way for us to have a "leader" for them to go to. Rather than just speak to the President of the United States, who might withhold information for political reasons, its more probably they wish to speak to EVERY leader of the human race.
If WE landed somewhere and found alien life, would we know enough to say "I'd like to speak to Jim, please"?
No we'd probably say something like "Take me to your leader" Which is where you are brought before the UN council with someone already appointed to mediate the conference.
The problem is that they are horribly inefficient at BOTH tasks, thats why they are being banned. They create so much heat just to create light, but they don't create enough heat to justify their cost as a heating device. Ever tried heating a room with just the incandescant bulb? A few minutes in a space heater would do better, or you could turn on a heat lamp, or any other means of heating a room are currently more efficient than these bulbs.
It's like if they banned cars, and every dealership in the world took off the rear axle and claimed their new scraping jalopy a motorcycle.
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Now luckily, I was able to convince an upper level rep that I could have rooted my phone and tethered it, but I chose to get the 3G stick to be fair and make sure they received a reasonable amount of compensation for services provided. Until I laid this on them they absolutely were not going to budge at all. I am very much the exception, as obviously the average customer doesn't even understand what I just wrote, so they would have been just straight screwed.
A buddy of mine actually went and paid the extra 50 dollars (per month) for the "unlimitted data plan" on his phone - based on the assumption that worst case scenario, when his laptop doesn't have Wifi, he can tether it to get internet access. At work we have an out-dated system that we're trying to replace where IS Requests come in via outlook form emails. Most phones aren't capable of displaying the actual outlook form, you need to have the actual full version of outlook that comes with Office, not the web services or outlook express or anything like that. Some people just send in straight emails and don't use the forms. Which means for the most part - we'll know whats going on by either a readable email, or the subject that comes in on an outlook form. But theres the odd occaisons where it's needed.
My buddy goes and tethers to get his laptop to open the outlook forms - something he wouldn't have to have done if Windows Mobile was even a proper shoehorn for Windows products. He gets somewhere around 10 megs of traffic total, his bill jumped up by 300 dollars. Even without going over his limit, tethering was apparently not allowed - and wasn't covered in the data plan.
He argued to get them to drop the charges to something like 45 bucks, but it's still highway robbery. He didn't cause any more network stress on their end than what he had paid for, which was already the premium service, and they STILL took any chance they could get to nickel and dime him. I am sadly still under contract with this same provider, I'll be switching in Decemebr when its over.
How will I know one when I see one?
I mean if its a little square box with a blinking red light, I think I can figure it out. If it looks inconspicuous enough, how do I know if I'm removing a GPS device or the bolt that seals my oil pan?
stated that they 'do not trust our ISP, email provider and officials to tell the truth or protect us.'"
Just like I wouldn't trust you not to pull something like this for publicity's sake, but I guess in both cases, no one will ever know, so its moot.
Exactly. I don't think people realize how hard it is to actually clean off an infected machine without internet access.
If an ISP shuts down your internet, the 2 desktops and a Laptop you have will all be useless till you run the Laptop over to a hotspot or jump on a PC at the library just to go and find the latest antivirus version of Malware Bytes or whatever.
Reinstalling your OS isn't always an option because then you don't have the drivers for your NIC Card.
I can't think of a single instance where I was able to clean a virus off of a computer without at least resorting to googling the infection type to find what AV would disinfect it properly.
So you're saying that instead ISP's should go and arrest Bot-infected users to keep them from using the internet instead of taking their computers off the road.
Or did that woosh right over me?
Me too!
I also like to think that they are the ones who actually know the secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices involved in the KFC chicken, but a majority of the people out there couldn't handle it if they knew it.
and it has since been widely cited as a cautionary example of the havoc the combination of good intentions and incompetence can wreak on a network
That's about all I needed to read from the link. Emphasis Mine.
Clearly - the best way for him to get around this legal debacle, is to take the breaking into and shutting down process and make it into a simple shell script.
With Robots fighting robots, he's not actually breaking into the accounts, they aren't actually registering, and its all fair game. And then when people claim that they were in fact the ones registering the accounts, they can stand before the court with 2000+ charges against the CAN-SPAM act.
There's more to spam than just covering the page. He says the main reason he got into this was that spam was slowing his forums down. Wasted Bandwidth.
Yes. When aligned by the other magnetic field. I cannot simply take a compass and hold it next to a frog for results.
And none of that seems to point towards emotional state affecting any of it, which is the part specifically that the AC quoted.
Right.... until they start adding commercials to books as electronic readers start becoming more mainstream. You won't be able to turn the page until you sit through this 15 second commercial that the publisher figures might interest you based on the content of the book.
And if your choice is watching that with not having to pay for the book versus shelling out the usual $20 for the book ... I might actually opt for that.
It'll be a $20 a month subscription fee for the eReader with those ads on top. And you should be so lucky to get a $2 skip ads option.
The content creators are addressing your complaints
What... Google offering $2 to skip commercials? That doesn't sound like the content creators are providing the solution, it sounds like the distributor is providing the solution. And the solution costs you money on top of paying for the service.
Oh, and saying "Go Watch a show without commercials to help push this market" is ridiculous. What if he doesn't like those shows, those times don't work out, or doesn't have that network?
I didn't understand anything about the story to be an energy field. I understood it that everything with a composition of protons and electrons will eventually force all the electrons to one side creating a magnetic like object so long as you introduce a strong enough magnetic force.
so a good balance of users should make sites more standard compliant in the end.
Or will the browsers fight to become more robust than their competitors to deal with the non-compliant sites?
Not on some finger greased up portable small ass screen that is easily broken by a 10yr old pitching a fit when she loses a level / life.
You are mistaking his definition of Portable as today's definition of Portable.
From Mark from the Article:
Imagine a future Xbox 360 that is actually a tablet you carry around. It will have more power than 360 does today, with technology like Kinect built right in. Imagine walking into a bar with some friends, propping it up on the table and playing games like Dance Central or Kinect Adventures anywhere you go.
"Then when you get home that same device will use technology like AirPlay or wireless HDMI to connect to your big screen, you’ll pick up a wireless controller, or use your phone as controller, to play games like Gears of War.
No one is denying that the user experience can be a pleasant one. What Ron Gilbert is trying to say is...
Eff it, you know what?
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Sometimes the information is used for statistical purposes (people from 9 county prefer the east side of the lot, 22 county prefers the west side). For targeted ads, it's more like having a free parking space downtown, provided you give your name, address, and license plate number. Then they take that and say 'hey, Bob likes to park downtown on Wednesdays, so I'll print up a few flyers with his name and leave them with the attendant to deliver when he gets there.' Then they take the next step and start charging the local shops, as well as exchanging info.
And THIS is where it should be illegal. I have no issues with Google collecting my information and using it for their advertising purposes because thats basically what I signed onto when I signed up for their services. If I don't like it, there is competition. I don't think of the internet as a strictly public space - I can't just wander around it like a park, anytime I do my ISP calls up and goes "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? Port Scanning our Equipment is against the TOS" or some racket like that. Those kinds of security measures in place for good reason. So the information I give to advertisers is not "publicly free" information. It is privately between me and the company the Ad is for. The advertisers can statistically see how many people are hitting the ads but they shouldn't be able to determin who. If they want to determin who they should have to ask us first. If we give them that information they should not be able to sell it to whoever, without my express permission. If I give my phone number to a friend and he goes and writes it on every bathroom stall in the city telling people to call me for a good time, there are actually laws in place that I can use, under some form of harassment.
I agree. I think if anyone wants information from me they should have to ask me for it. They should not be able to collect any more information on me anymore than I should be able to collect information on whoever is interested and using the data. And if that's an advertising firm with 200+ employees than I want the browsing habits of all 200+ employees. I'd probably settle for just the CEO. Just a simple exchange of information, right? No different than sharing our names. But like I said earlier, they should have to ask, and I should have the right to refuse. Simple as that. Why should browsing habits be considered any less private than how I put on my pants in the morning, yet if someone wanted to sit outside my window and take readings on that - I could get them arrested.
I played at launch and quit towards the end of Burning Crusade, I had just had enough. Like you, my last 5 to 6 months were not much more than 2 hours a week, just to kill time before actually heading out and doing something. I had originally started WoW with 3 other friends, one of which became addicted and we forced him to quit cold turkey before Burning Crusade came out.* The other friend quit on his own when he found he was running out of time. He wanted to get into Engineering so the work-load for a class like that is pretty big. Not enough time to play. He's since started playing again but only since WotLK, and even now I don't think he plays it too often. That left me and my other friend playing Burning Crusade for a while, and Having done all the raiding I could care for, the only appeal for the game was the introduction of Arenas. We started a 2v2 team to see how we could do. We weren't one of those omg gamestopping combos that win nearly everytime, but we won more than we lost (I think 1700 rating pretty consistantly). Once we found that all the gear was attainable by simply playing a few games every week - and maintaining a decent rating - it kind of lost its appeal.
Eventually it just got to a point where it was like "What do you want to do?" - the Arenas were not enough to keep us playing. If I went on and he wasn't on, I'd log. And Vice Versa. We didn't really care enough to schedule times - its just a game afterall meant to kill some time when either of us have spare time. Eventually my partner and I tried Eve Online, and that did us for a spell because it was fresh and new. We've quit that though - the game doesn't seem to have any real end in sight and a lot of the progression is just spending real life time to get your skills up, or saving up for the next ship. I never really could get a hang of really getting into the game and what its mostly really about (Backstabbing and trickery and deception for money).
So I just don't really play MMO's anymore. If there was still a good social aspect to it, I might play, but it has to be with people I know. Guildies are people I just can't get a real connection to because I may never meet them, so anything I say to offend them will only ever have consequences inside the game and how much I care about the game can change as much as I want it to. Whereas my brother won't go away, so I need to be his friend, you know?
Like you said, the only real draw after a really long time is the community aspect. "Doing the same thing over and over" does lose its appeal but its different everytime when you do it with friends. Just like watching Sports, there will be differences in plays, going to movies feature different films, they are all slightly different each time you do them, but its the people you share it with that make each activity unique and fun. So I guess the only real difference between you and I is that you were capable of establishing really good friendships with the people you met online, or the people you know still play.
*I know it might sound a bit hypocritical, WoW players getting a friend to quit WoW while still playing themselves, but he would skip school, ditch parties, it wasn't good for him. He found a girlfriend who doesn't play, that helps. She likes Starcraft though, so thats a plus.
Survival rate for things like this sometimes have a cutoff date of 180 days, or 24 weeks or something along those lines. At which case you can mostly assume that any rarities during birth will have had their effect and if the child was going to die because of those complications it would have happened already.
So, in your attempt to sound like a hip smug knowitall who points out something the opening poster didn't realize you came off as an idiot who tries too hard to smart. We won't even bother with your political ramblings.
Well thats already an issue - I've seen Malware that makes fake "Blue Screen of Death" with the warning about viruses. You can't Alt+tab or Alt+f4 out of it, CTRL+ALT+Delete does nothing, it acts just like a Blue Screen of Death except for 2 things: Your mouse is still visible and moves, and it'll actually go away if you leave it for 5 minutes - instead of everyones initial reaction to reboot the machine.
I always wondered how it was they managed to bypass all the other functions that I should have had available, but THIS makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of malware already exists.
Currently it exercises no real power over the planet but it's the place where most of the world can be represented at once in a single room.
I mean, until we have unification across the globe there isn't any real way for us to have a "leader" for them to go to. Rather than just speak to the President of the United States, who might withhold information for political reasons, its more probably they wish to speak to EVERY leader of the human race.
They should have appointed a Poet.
How will they know?
If WE landed somewhere and found alien life, would we know enough to say "I'd like to speak to Jim, please"?
No we'd probably say something like "Take me to your leader" Which is where you are brought before the UN council with someone already appointed to mediate the conference.
The problem is that they are horribly inefficient at BOTH tasks, thats why they are being banned. They create so much heat just to create light, but they don't create enough heat to justify their cost as a heating device. Ever tried heating a room with just the incandescant bulb? A few minutes in a space heater would do better, or you could turn on a heat lamp, or any other means of heating a room are currently more efficient than these bulbs.
It's like if they banned cars, and every dealership in the world took off the rear axle and claimed their new scraping jalopy a motorcycle.