I am not a Canadian, but you can't fool me with your talk of basketball, volleyball, and track.
I know for a fact that the only sports Canadian youth go for are beating each other up with hockey gloves, beating each other up with hockey sticks, beating each other up without gloves, and occasionally playing hockey.
You forgot "and drinking good Canadian beer while watching and/or doing all of the above." Yes, it is tricky to get the stains out of the jerseys afterward, but 'meh, it's worth it.;o)
Who gets to determine what's "good" and what's "bad" behaviour? The other players? Any chance I could be a spectator for the train wreck?
Who gets to decide what's a 'good' post and a 'bad' post on/.?
True, the system as described is open for abuse, but limiting the players ability to 'venge on each other by limiting the damage (or kudos) players can 'spend' on other players seems like a somewhat workable solution, much as it is here. Translating that to dollars may not be the best idea, since people get funny about that, but opening up in-game specials, or adding access to special items based on good game karma might be an acceptable alternative.
Thanks for the clarification! I guess I've never had to sign an NDA before, so I had no real frame of reference.
Well, I guess we'll find out one way or the other here soon, since the leaking of this document in and of itself seems to breach the agreement, according to Clause 1, Section B: "The information shall also include the fact and content of this agreement and all newsworthy information relating to the workings of Wikileaks"
Although...this single document probably doesn't qualify as a 'significant breach', so then again, maybe not. Will be interesting to see their response.
I support wikileaks because I appreciate the work they do, not because they set the benchmark for organizational transparency.
Anyway, If wikileaks ever becomes too self-serving they will simply lose supporters to openleaks, or some other group that is more open. But what happens when a government, or say the US military becomes self-serving?, are you going to pick another one?
Very good points, there. As for picking another government, well, yes I would, it just takes longer than running down the street to a different Tim Hortons;) And I must admit, it's getting difficult to find one that's not self-serving these days...governments, I mean, not Timmy's...
It's also worth noting that the document the article refers to was in fact LEAKED!, so although wikileaks facilitates leaking, they do not have a monopoly over it, nor do I see how they ever could.
Okay, so perhaps the purest irony in all of this is that this particular document, which defines the consequences of breaching Wikileaks security policies, was leaked. I like that.
Sorry, didn't read TFA. Just tickled my funny bone, is all.
It's nice to know that the leaker can 'only' be fired, if we infer correctly...leaving it up to whomever the leaked information was about to take it up in civil court with that handy 'value of a significant breach' number.
Why would they have a dollar value assigned if it weren't intended to be used somewhere? IA*definitely*NAL, so I'm honestly curious here.
It's neither hypocritical nor ironic. They've never said that they would provide all the documents without redaction, in fact they've gone to great lengths to redact information that's not necessary and would be likely to reveal the sources.
Sounds like they want to be the only ones who determine when information is 'necessary'. Redaction to prevent source identification, that I can understand, but if one of their employees feels the redaction marker has been applied a bit too liberally? What recourse then...release it to Wikileaks? Oh, wait...
I'm a software trainer. We spend probably 25% of our time collectively laughing at bad software practices and wondering out loud who on Earth thought that widgetX was a good idea.
So...I take it you get a lot of business from companies who insist on forcing their employees to use Bloatus Goats, er, I mean Lotus Notes?
Yet another example where the devs are big fans because 'it can do so much more than just email!', but the actual user is left in a mess of pain trying to use the end result for what they need it to do...which is, 90% of the time, just frigging email...
Bad analogy, because rain isn't a human being capable of critical thought that can decide not to be an asshole and flood a basement.
Sorry, and you mean to imply that 'Anonymous' is?
Certain elements of Anon may be capable of planning and directing attacks (i.e., that '17 yo kid in Toledo'), but as far as I can tell, the average Anon member mostly just follows the crowd, like a flash mob or an excited terrier. Their strength is in numbers, which amplifies relatively piddling DOS attacks into something that can actually bring major content servers to their knees...for a while, anyway.
Okay, here's a better analogy for you: it's like blaming the rain for the flooding when it was actually your neighbor who set up dikes and dug channels and redirected his eaves-troughs to make sure your property got as much water as it could during the recent downpour. Still wouldn't have made a difference if you'd kept your basement maintained...
You have to admit...blaming Anonymous for the attack sounds a lot better and less embarrassing as stating "Yeah, some 17 year old kid in Toledo managed to hack us and pull all your private information because we don't have our s&*t together."
Sure. It's like blaming all rain everywhere for the flooding in your basement.
Some of the local rainwater may have gotten in and started wrecking things and generally behaving badly, but the bottom line is that the water got in because you have a hole in your basement...
Fix and maintain your basement, Sony, and don't blame it on the rain...yeah, yeah...
Stanley Ann Dunham lived in Kansas, and then moved to Hawaii.
I must be one of the last people in the world to not know that Obama's mom's real first name is Stanley...that's the most interesting item to come out of this whole boring 'birther' debate. Poor, poor woman. There's nothing like telling your kid for the rest of her fucking life that she's the 'wrong' sex, and you'd love her if only she had a cock n' balls like Daddy...
Travelocity has one. Works pretty well, too, at least for North America-to-the-rest-of-the-world type of info...at least you'll know when the prices start dropping for your preferred departure/destination pair.
- You can also navigate to that site in your normal browser and save the resultant file (XML file) - Or you can log into the site and go to the Settings Page > Export / Backup Bookmarks (HTML file)
Thanks, that was handy! Download...complete.
Not sure if I'll transfer over or not, depends on how retarded they are about 'verifying' personal data. (Really, my address is 123 Nowhere St., NoneOfYourBusiness, Nohio!) If they delete my bookmarks for that, well, at least now I have current backups for migration elsewhere...
There is no way in hell I'd share accurate personally identifying information (other than a throwaway email addy) with a frigging bookmark aggregator...get real.
And no, they're not getting access to my FB pseudonym either, even though I only use it to look at friends photos...
Mr. Foreman’s tickets were all issued in Forest Heights, a town of about 2,600 where officials expected $2.9 million in ticket revenue this fiscal year, about half the town’s $5.8 million budget.
Couldn't get people to pay taxes for that new community pool there? Sheesh.
Yikes! That's over $1,100 from every man, woman and child that they 'expected' to rake in...definitely seems excessive.
This is artificial value and scarcity created by limited manufacturing, you'd be reducing that value by copying it. If you're looking for edge cases then 'what if your heavily pregnant wife was ten minutes from giving birth and you were 9 minutes by car away from a hospital.' gives you the opposite moral outcome.
What about unique items, the Mona Lisa ? Would it be reduced as 'best painting, like ever' if everyone were able to hang an exact copy at home? The original would be worth monetarily much less. The benefits to society of everyone who's interested being able to study the finest first hand would be enormous.
The value in the original is the history, not the exact materials. No matter how atom-perfect, a replication was never touched by the hand of the master, or survived so many trying adventures throughout the centuries. True, perfect replication would make the job of distinguishing the original from the knockoff much more difficult, but the copies do not diminish the historical (or nostalgic) worth of the original, or the owners would never have allowed prints, photographs or any other form of copy to be made (and how much sadder would that be for the world?)
Why do we authenticate signatures on baseball cards? To prove that the signature is real, and that the actual player himself touched that card at some point in its existence, at least long enough to deface it. Being able to make a perfect copy of the signed card doesn't diminish the actual value of the original, it just makes it harder to authenticate and may diminish the market value due to people being taken in by these fakes.
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I am not a Canadian, but you can't fool me with your talk of basketball, volleyball, and track.
I know for a fact that the only sports Canadian youth go for are beating each other up with hockey gloves, beating each other up with hockey sticks, beating each other up without gloves, and occasionally playing hockey.
You forgot "and drinking good Canadian beer while watching and/or doing all of the above." ;o)
Yes, it is tricky to get the stains out of the jerseys afterward, but 'meh, it's worth it.
Who gets to determine what's "good" and what's "bad" behaviour? The other players? Any chance I could be a spectator for the train wreck?
Who gets to decide what's a 'good' post and a 'bad' post on /.?
True, the system as described is open for abuse, but limiting the players ability to 'venge on each other by limiting the damage (or kudos) players can 'spend' on other players seems like a somewhat workable solution, much as it is here. Translating that to dollars may not be the best idea, since people get funny about that, but opening up in-game specials, or adding access to special items based on good game karma might be an acceptable alternative.
Double whoosh...
Think we really do need a sarcastica font here...or at least sarcasm tags!
Thanks for the clarification! I guess I've never had to sign an NDA before, so I had no real frame of reference.
Well, I guess we'll find out one way or the other here soon, since the leaking of this document in and of itself seems to breach the agreement, according to Clause 1, Section B: "The information shall also include the fact and content of this agreement and all newsworthy information relating to the workings of Wikileaks"
Although...this single document probably doesn't qualify as a 'significant breach', so then again, maybe not. Will be interesting to see their response.
I support wikileaks because I appreciate the work they do, not because they set the benchmark for organizational transparency.
Anyway, If wikileaks ever becomes too self-serving they will simply lose supporters to openleaks, or some other group that is more open.
But what happens when a government, or say the US military becomes self-serving?, are you going to pick another one?
Very good points, there. As for picking another government, well, yes I would, it just takes longer than running down the street to a different Tim Hortons ;) And I must admit, it's getting difficult to find one that's not self-serving these days...governments, I mean, not Timmy's...
It's also worth noting that the document the article refers to was in fact LEAKED!, so although wikileaks facilitates leaking, they do not have a monopoly over it, nor do I see how they ever could.
Okay, so perhaps the purest irony in all of this is that this particular document, which defines the consequences of breaching Wikileaks security policies, was leaked. I like that.
Sorry, didn't read TFA. Just tickled my funny bone, is all.
It's nice to know that the leaker can 'only' be fired, if we infer correctly...leaving it up to whomever the leaked information was about to take it up in civil court with that handy 'value of a significant breach' number.
Why would they have a dollar value assigned if it weren't intended to be used somewhere? IA*definitely*NAL, so I'm honestly curious here.
It's neither hypocritical nor ironic. They've never said that they would provide all the documents without redaction, in fact they've gone to great lengths to redact information that's not necessary and would be likely to reveal the sources.
Sounds like they want to be the only ones who determine when information is 'necessary'. Redaction to prevent source identification, that I can understand, but if one of their employees feels the redaction marker has been applied a bit too liberally? What recourse then...release it to Wikileaks? Oh, wait...
Anything that cuts down on excess conversation is OK for me.
You must be new here...
How, er, ironic.
Well, I guess it's actually just hypocritical, but it sure smells like irony to me...
While quickly scanning the headlines, I first read this as "Japanese Restaurants Test Flying Trains"
*Sniff* I always wanted to try airborne sushi...oh well, maybe next time.
I'm a software trainer. We spend probably 25% of our time collectively laughing at bad software practices and wondering out loud who on Earth thought that widgetX was a good idea.
So...I take it you get a lot of business from companies who insist on forcing their employees to use Bloatus Goats, er, I mean Lotus Notes?
Yet another example where the devs are big fans because 'it can do so much more than just email!', but the actual user is left in a mess of pain trying to use the end result for what they need it to do...which is, 90% of the time, just frigging email...
Bad analogy, because rain isn't a human being capable of critical thought that can decide not to be an asshole and flood a basement.
Sorry, and you mean to imply that 'Anonymous' is?
Certain elements of Anon may be capable of planning and directing attacks (i.e., that '17 yo kid in Toledo'), but as far as I can tell, the average Anon member mostly just follows the crowd, like a flash mob or an excited terrier. Their strength is in numbers, which amplifies relatively piddling DOS attacks into something that can actually bring major content servers to their knees...for a while, anyway.
Okay, here's a better analogy for you: it's like blaming the rain for the flooding when it was actually your neighbor who set up dikes and dug channels and redirected his eaves-troughs to make sure your property got as much water as it could during the recent downpour. Still wouldn't have made a difference if you'd kept your basement maintained...
so I don't need this nose stylus. I just use my wet finger.
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You have to admit...blaming Anonymous for the attack sounds a lot better and less embarrassing as stating "Yeah, some 17 year old kid in Toledo managed to hack us and pull all your private information because we don't have our s&*t together."
Sure. It's like blaming all rain everywhere for the flooding in your basement.
Some of the local rainwater may have gotten in and started wrecking things and generally behaving badly, but the bottom line is that the water got in because you have a hole in your basement...
Fix and maintain your basement, Sony, and don't blame it on the rain...yeah, yeah...
Stanley Ann Dunham lived in Kansas, and then moved to Hawaii.
I must be one of the last people in the world to not know that Obama's mom's real first name is Stanley...that's the most interesting item to come out of this whole boring 'birther' debate. Poor, poor woman. There's nothing like telling your kid for the rest of her fucking life that she's the 'wrong' sex, and you'd love her if only she had a cock n' balls like Daddy...
A travel-watcher bot would be really nice.
Travelocity has one. Works pretty well, too, at least for North America-to-the-rest-of-the-world type of info...at least you'll know when the prices start dropping for your preferred departure/destination pair.
What word or phrase describes the inverse of 'tin foil hat'? Because that's the part you are playing.
...saran-wrap shorts?
I guess there's got to be some advantage to having an election every 18 months...
For those of you without cURL with SSL support:
- You can also navigate to that site in your normal browser and save the resultant file (XML file)
- Or you can log into the site and go to the Settings Page > Export / Backup Bookmarks (HTML file)
Thanks, that was handy! Download...complete.
Not sure if I'll transfer over or not, depends on how retarded they are about 'verifying' personal data. (Really, my address is 123 Nowhere St., NoneOfYourBusiness, Nohio!) If they delete my bookmarks for that, well, at least now I have current backups for migration elsewhere...
There is no way in hell I'd share accurate personally identifying information (other than a throwaway email addy) with a frigging bookmark aggregator...get real.
And no, they're not getting access to my FB pseudonym either, even though I only use it to look at friends photos...
Slash should totally highlight troublesome words in the editor view.
Check out The Oatmeal
Here's a whole series devoted to grammar.
Always informative and amusing.
Just 'insure' you get it right next time...;-)
Mr. Foreman’s tickets were all issued in Forest Heights, a town of about 2,600 where officials expected $2.9 million in ticket revenue this fiscal year, about half the town’s $5.8 million budget.
Couldn't get people to pay taxes for that new community pool there? Sheesh.
Yikes! That's over $1,100 from every man, woman and child that they 'expected' to rake in...definitely seems excessive.
This is artificial value and scarcity created by limited manufacturing, you'd be reducing that value by copying it. If you're looking for edge cases then 'what if your heavily pregnant wife was ten minutes from giving birth and you were 9 minutes by car away from a hospital.' gives you the opposite moral outcome.
What about unique items, the Mona Lisa ?
Would it be reduced as 'best painting, like ever' if everyone were able to hang an exact copy at home? The original would be worth monetarily much less. The benefits to society of everyone who's interested being able to study the finest first hand would be enormous.
The value in the original is the history, not the exact materials. No matter how atom-perfect, a replication was never touched by the hand of the master, or survived so many trying adventures throughout the centuries. True, perfect replication would make the job of distinguishing the original from the knockoff much more difficult, but the copies do not diminish the historical (or nostalgic) worth of the original, or the owners would never have allowed prints, photographs or any other form of copy to be made (and how much sadder would that be for the world?)
Why do we authenticate signatures on baseball cards? To prove that the signature is real, and that the actual player himself touched that card at some point in its existence, at least long enough to deface it. Being able to make a perfect copy of the signed card doesn't diminish the actual value of the original, it just makes it harder to authenticate and may diminish the market value due to people being taken in by these fakes.
Even the simplest of data has feelings, you insensitive clod!
I guess that makes a bit pretty bi-polar, then...
{ducks barrage of rotten tomatoes}
I wonder what they could do with this. User Adaptive systems which help choose films you might like based on the parts you enjoyed.
Heh, and slowly your Netflix recommendations migrate over to pron...