I can't see any reason why this was posted under YRO instead of, say Idle...whose online rights were threatened / supported / affected here? The thief? The store owner? The potential purchasers of the physical game copies?
I guess, if nobody actually gets to look at your source, you're not opening yourself up to ridicule and scorn for the shoddy coding practices and multitude of exploitable errors...
No, the real ridicule comes when hostile crackers discover those exploitable errors through brute force or reverse engineering and, well, exploit them.
Sure, sometimes it can be a case of too many cooks and all that, but when it comes to hunting for security holes I'd think it just plain makes sense to have as many friendly eyes on the code as are willing to spend the time.
Sometimes things that are actually horrific, we find some comedic value in them. I personally read the Cyanide and Happiness comics, which for those who don't read is a childish comic written by 4 guys and they are 90% ridiculous puns that have to do with either violence, terminal illness, or suicide. Every year they have what they call "Depressing Comic Week" which is, quite literally, a week full of comics that have no punch-line, just incredibly sad situations. Yet somehow individuals such as I find them funny.
Ahhh...spoken like a true citizen of the Robot Chicken generation.
...but couldn't they re-tool or something to produce CD-R's, or maybe DVD-R's? Maybe re-tool half of the plant, keeping half in production for the reduced volume of regular CD's?
Admittedly, I have no idea how much the processes differ, or whether it would even be possible, but it seems to me that this would be less wasteful than just tanking the entire setup... After all, as online sales go up, CD-R and DVD-R sales *should* rise as well if the current generation cares about backing up their media at all. They'd probably have to drop the 'Sony Tax' on their burnable media pricing to actually see a portion of that pie, however...
The infringement was the breech of duty....Each song they sold without giving the money to the artist(s) involved was in breech of the contract that gave them license to create that copy and sell it.
Um, it's 'breach', unless you're talking about their pants, a rear-loading rifle or a baby being born ass-backwards.
if you can't trust the person at the top: then either they don't deserve to be there, or you need to find a new job.
when you're the person at the top: you better have earned the trust and respect of those under you. Subverting it does nobody any good in any long term.
Ahh...but what if the top-level account gets pwnd, either externally or internally? Doesn't it make some sense to limit the 'damage' one account can do in a short timeframe, until someone notices the breach?
The tricky part comes in at the point that, while most CEOs have at least a basic understanding of accounting and other departments under their watch, IT departments are *typically* a foreign land to the understanding of those in charge. Even if they wanted to audit proper usage of root it would be difficult or impossible.
Excellent point. Plus the fact that accounting in particular is subject to external oversight and some pretty rigid structures imposed by regulatory agencies. This tends to limit the creativity of any accounting solutions, or at least provides employers with external tools to check on just how 'creative' their accountants are getting...
System administration OTOH is a beast of a very different colour. There are some basic guidelines as far as security, user access control, etc., but how strictly these are actually implemented and monitored is *very* dependent on the technology, the business needs and the resource availability. And since there is typically no one 'right' answer, any sort of external audit would probably provide ambiguous conclusions for the concerned employer, as well as a sales pitch for the auditors' preferred technology or software.
Actually, the proper course of action would be to ignore so-called crackpot arguments, especially if, as you say, debating them would be a waste of time.
Heh, so feel free to ignore my above post in it's entirety!
Some arguments are just so incorrect it's not worth spending the time debating them.
Why should we waste time debating drivel and distractions, when we should be discussing the salient facts and issues? If we went down the path you suggest, then we'd have to debate every crackpot argument.
Actually, the proper course of action would be to ignore so-called crackpot arguments, especially if, as you say, debating them would be a waste of time.
Modding them down just because you don't agree is nothing but a knee-jerk reaction, akin to putting your hands over your ears and shouting "la la la, I'm not listening, and I'll shout loud enough so nobody else can hear you too!"
Save your mod points for promoting that which is actually worth reading, in your opinion, or demoting true trolls and spammers. Even with great karma, initial posts are at the most rated a two, so if everyone ignores them, they never even raise above most people's threshold (unless someone else with mod points happens to believe differently than you, of course).
There is a good reason there is no 'disagree' mod. Wouldn't this be a boring place if we all agreed about everything? And if it's a factual error, then you do no one any favours by not correcting it via a quick comment and *wasting* a mod point instead!?! *facepalm* How else do us non-experts ever learn?;o)
Also, it's used standalone as identification, so maybe we could get unforgeable (or at least VERY hard to forge) IDs.
Sure, as long as the reference database is un-hackable and there's no way to sniff and spoof the digital signature generated from the DNA anywhere along the communication path from the reference database to the end device...oh, wait...
But true, this would make low-tech identity theft much more difficult.
Testimony? They don't need testimony. They have chat logs implicating Assange in aiding Bradley Manning with submitting the documents. The law is pretty clear about these things. We'll just have to wait for his trial.
The mods who modded you troll should be ashamed of themselves. That was nothing but suppressing a differing opinion.
I fully agree. There was nothing objectionable or inflammatory in the GP, just a different opinion, and a claim of facts that may or may not be accurate.
Remember, there is no "disagree" mod option. If you disagree, step up and say so, and support your arguments!
In the past few years working with DRM systems I've basically come to appreciate the 'mom rule'. Namely, if a technology's good enough to keep your mom from accessing data, then it's probably good enough
Pretty soon the definition of artificial intelligence will be carrying on a conversation about the latest General Unification Theory in three languages simultaneously while juggling twelve oranges and bouncing on a pogo stick.
I really wonder how it will handle wagering during Daily Doubles and Final Jeopardy? How will it assess its own 'knowledge' of a category, and will it take into consideration other contestant's scores, difficulty and probability of winning questions from remaining categories, etc.?
Exactly. I also don't want 'bugs in Python' appearing in my after work image and video searches.
Heh, unless you were helping your kid with a biology paper on parasites common to Southeast Asian constrictors...but then, you'd still probably want different search results than you'd need at work;)
I know I'd like to be informed when the things I want hits the price I want to pay and no one has invented this service yet. Google is big enough to monitor prices on items around the net and it could inform you of who has the best price at x time, and it could use a chart like google finances to compare prices from different vendors over time.
Absolutely! I have searched high and low for such a service, especially for those little electronic gewgaws that you don't really need, but would pick up anyways for yourself or a friend if they were on a really good sale somewhere...There are *lots* of generalized price comparison crawlers, including Google's, and they're all more than happy to push out their weekly (or even daily) flyers to you full of crap you aren't interested in if you're silly enough to give them your email, but I haven't found anywhere where I can request "okay, notify me if the price of X drops below $50 on any retail site" or some such.
The only comparative that I have found is the price alert feature for some travel sites that let you pick Departure X and Destination Y, then will email you if the flight cost between those cities drops (i.e., a seat sale), even checking across multiple airlines. The ones I have tried are pretty good about only notifying me when the flight cost has changed. And they don't try any crap like "if you like Destination Y, maybe you'll enjoy these Destination FU deals on now!"
If only there were something similar for my electronic goodies...now that is targeted advertising I could actually use!
I would hope this technology would be smart enough to push results based on whether it is a work related task or a recreational task.
Yes, I can see if "Would you like to see results for 'Big Breasted Bavarian Women'?" popped up during that sales pitch to your potential Bavarian investors...of course, actual impact on the pitch could be positive or negative, depending on the gender and age group of the representatives...
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Ahhh...cowtown much? ;)
I so wish I could mod this to 6.
I agree, excellent summation of facts and probable motivations. Thanks dachshund!!
The store could have an Internet connection!
Good point, and I suppose the break-in could have interrupted the stock boy's regular whack time in the back room...
I can't see any reason why this was posted under YRO instead of, say Idle...whose online rights were threatened / supported / affected here? The thief? The store owner? The potential purchasers of the physical game copies?
I guess, if nobody actually gets to look at your source, you're not opening yourself up to ridicule and scorn for the shoddy coding practices and multitude of exploitable errors...
No, the real ridicule comes when hostile crackers discover those exploitable errors through brute force or reverse engineering and, well, exploit them.
Sure, sometimes it can be a case of too many cooks and all that, but when it comes to hunting for security holes I'd think it just plain makes sense to have as many friendly eyes on the code as are willing to spend the time.
Sometimes things that are actually horrific, we find some comedic value in them. I personally read the Cyanide and Happiness comics, which for those who don't read is a childish comic written by 4 guys and they are 90% ridiculous puns that have to do with either violence, terminal illness, or suicide. Every year they have what they call "Depressing Comic Week" which is, quite literally, a week full of comics that have no punch-line, just incredibly sad situations. Yet somehow individuals such as I find them funny.
Ahhh...spoken like a true citizen of the Robot Chicken generation.
btw, you may also enjoy The Book of Bunny Suicides or one of its sequels (I know I did!)
+++OUT OF CHEESE ERROR+++REDO FROM START+++
(Thanks Terry Pratchett, your work shall ever be an inspiration!)
...can I see the Matrix?
But think of the possibilities. [...] Steve Head Jobs [...]
Or Steve Hand Jobs...
...but couldn't they re-tool or something to produce CD-R's, or maybe DVD-R's? Maybe re-tool half of the plant, keeping half in production for the reduced volume of regular CD's?
Admittedly, I have no idea how much the processes differ, or whether it would even be possible, but it seems to me that this would be less wasteful than just tanking the entire setup... After all, as online sales go up, CD-R and DVD-R sales *should* rise as well if the current generation cares about backing up their media at all. They'd probably have to drop the 'Sony Tax' on their burnable media pricing to actually see a portion of that pie, however...
The infringement was the breech of duty....Each song they sold without giving the money to the artist(s) involved was in breech of the contract that gave them license to create that copy and sell it.
Um, it's 'breach', unless you're talking about their pants, a rear-loading rifle or a baby being born ass-backwards.
</spelling_nazi>
Most likely the only safe way to let them go would be to literally "terminate" them.
Trouble is, "they'll be back"...
okay, okay, it's a stretch. What can I say, it's Monday. And I can't even figure out if this is a Terminator joke or a zombie joke... ;o)
if you can't trust the person at the top: then either they don't deserve to be there, or you need to find a new job.
when you're the person at the top: you better have earned the trust and respect of those under you. Subverting it does nobody any good in any long term.
Ahh...but what if the top-level account gets pwnd, either externally or internally? Doesn't it make some sense to limit the 'damage' one account can do in a short timeframe, until someone notices the breach?
The tricky part comes in at the point that, while most CEOs have at least a basic understanding of accounting and other departments under their watch, IT departments are *typically* a foreign land to the understanding of those in charge. Even if they wanted to audit proper usage of root it would be difficult or impossible.
Excellent point. Plus the fact that accounting in particular is subject to external oversight and some pretty rigid structures imposed by regulatory agencies. This tends to limit the creativity of any accounting solutions, or at least provides employers with external tools to check on just how 'creative' their accountants are getting...
System administration OTOH is a beast of a very different colour. There are some basic guidelines as far as security, user access control, etc., but how strictly these are actually implemented and monitored is *very* dependent on the technology, the business needs and the resource availability. And since there is typically no one 'right' answer, any sort of external audit would probably provide ambiguous conclusions for the concerned employer, as well as a sales pitch for the auditors' preferred technology or software.
Actually, the proper course of action would be to ignore so-called crackpot arguments, especially if, as you say, debating them would be a waste of time.
Heh, so feel free to ignore my above post in it's entirety!
Disagree = debate|move along
Disagree != downmod
Some arguments are just so incorrect it's not worth spending the time debating them.
Why should we waste time debating drivel and distractions, when we should be discussing the salient facts and issues? If we went down the path you suggest, then we'd have to debate every crackpot argument.
Actually, the proper course of action would be to ignore so-called crackpot arguments, especially if, as you say, debating them would be a waste of time.
Modding them down just because you don't agree is nothing but a knee-jerk reaction, akin to putting your hands over your ears and shouting "la la la, I'm not listening, and I'll shout loud enough so nobody else can hear you too!"
Save your mod points for promoting that which is actually worth reading, in your opinion, or demoting true trolls and spammers. Even with great karma, initial posts are at the most rated a two, so if everyone ignores them, they never even raise above most people's threshold (unless someone else with mod points happens to believe differently than you, of course).
There is a good reason there is no 'disagree' mod. Wouldn't this be a boring place if we all agreed about everything? And if it's a factual error, then you do no one any favours by not correcting it via a quick comment and *wasting* a mod point instead!?! *facepalm* How else do us non-experts ever learn? ;o)
Also, it's used standalone as identification, so maybe we could get unforgeable (or at least VERY hard to forge) IDs.
Sure, as long as the reference database is un-hackable and there's no way to sniff and spoof the digital signature generated from the DNA anywhere along the communication path from the reference database to the end device...oh, wait...
But true, this would make low-tech identity theft much more difficult.
Testimony? They don't need testimony. They have chat logs implicating Assange in aiding Bradley Manning with submitting the documents. The law is pretty clear about these things. We'll just have to wait for his trial.
The mods who modded you troll should be ashamed of themselves. That was nothing but suppressing a differing opinion.
I fully agree. There was nothing objectionable or inflammatory in the GP, just a different opinion, and a claim of facts that may or may not be accurate.
Remember, there is no "disagree" mod option. If you disagree, step up and say so, and support your arguments!
Try not to mod with your dicks, boys...
Not to self. Preview is your friend.
Hehe, apparently 'not' for you! ;)
In the past few years working with DRM systems I've basically come to appreciate the 'mom rule'. Namely, if a technology's good enough to keep your mom from accessing data, then it's probably good enough
...depends on whose mom you're talking about...
http://xkcd.com/327/
http://www.xkcd.com/341/
Pretty soon the definition of artificial intelligence will be carrying on a conversation about the latest General Unification Theory in three languages simultaneously while juggling twelve oranges and bouncing on a pogo stick.
I'd definitely watch that...
I really wonder how it will handle wagering during Daily Doubles and Final Jeopardy? How will it assess its own 'knowledge' of a category, and will it take into consideration other contestant's scores, difficulty and probability of winning questions from remaining categories, etc.?
Maybe we'll see a true Daily Double...
This will be most interesting indeed!
Exactly. I also don't want 'bugs in Python' appearing in my after work image and video searches.
Heh, unless you were helping your kid with a biology paper on parasites common to Southeast Asian constrictors...but then, you'd still probably want different search results than you'd need at work ;)
I know I'd like to be informed when the things I want hits the price I want to pay and no one has invented this service yet. Google is big enough to monitor prices on items around the net and it could inform you of who has the best price at x time, and it could use a chart like google finances to compare prices from different vendors over time.
Absolutely! I have searched high and low for such a service, especially for those little electronic gewgaws that you don't really need, but would pick up anyways for yourself or a friend if they were on a really good sale somewhere...There are *lots* of generalized price comparison crawlers, including Google's, and they're all more than happy to push out their weekly (or even daily) flyers to you full of crap you aren't interested in if you're silly enough to give them your email, but I haven't found anywhere where I can request "okay, notify me if the price of X drops below $50 on any retail site" or some such.
The only comparative that I have found is the price alert feature for some travel sites that let you pick Departure X and Destination Y, then will email you if the flight cost between those cities drops (i.e., a seat sale), even checking across multiple airlines. The ones I have tried are pretty good about only notifying me when the flight cost has changed. And they don't try any crap like "if you like Destination Y, maybe you'll enjoy these Destination FU deals on now!"
If only there were something similar for my electronic goodies...now that is targeted advertising I could actually use!
I would hope this technology would be smart enough to push results based on whether it is a work related task or a recreational task.
Yes, I can see if "Would you like to see results for 'Big Breasted Bavarian Women'?" popped up during that sales pitch to your potential Bavarian investors...of course, actual impact on the pitch could be positive or negative, depending on the gender and age group of the representatives...