Coding and abstract thinking is something you should train,
Yes, but you can only train a "talent"... If the talent is completely non-existing in the kid, then no amount of training will do any good. That's why, until today, I suck completely at music. My teachers, back then, pulled their hair out with me as a pupil. This stuff goed completely above my head and no amount of training could get me to play anything.
Are you sure? Do you like music? If you like classical music, jazz or blues it's very probable that you have the talent and that your teachers were too occupied pulling their hear instead of awaking the interest in you.
Absolutely true! But before that, educate teachers not just to read-out what is written in school books (children at that age already know how to read), but to explain, lead and animate children. They are all explorers, just give them guidances.
Yes... I know, I've been a teacher in training. You pretty much quote from the "Teaching for Dummies" handbook.;-)
Well, I quote my "Methodic of teaching Mathematics" exam book and my practical time in the special mathematical class.
Basically: you expect superhuman abilities from teachers...
I just expect them not to be bureaucrats and think a little bit (basically they should be doing the same thing that Socrates did on streets of Athens).
Yes, that expectation is one that made me quit too.
There I can fully understand you...
I'd say: try it... not a handfull of kids, a full class including the "characters" that are already completely demotivated. Preferably in full puberty....
I'm not 100% certain, but the "explorer" part ceases to exist around puberty.... My experience, I might be 100% off.
Unfortunately, that is true and very sad... The process of teaching must start in kindergarten, have it's full power during elementary school and specialize and guide abstract thinking afterwards. To start in puberty to bring them basics is off course too late.
According to pedagogy, that's not entirely unexpected because at that age abstract thinking is way in early stages. I know it's elitist to say (and as a teacher, you're not supposed to even think about that possibility), but coding and the abstract thinking needed for it is a property of the kid, not something you can really teach.
Coding and abstract thinking is something you should train, not teach (or teach how to code and think). The main problem of all educational systems today is that we want to put as much "facts" in children's head, instead of show them how to figure out some things themselves. That is a reason why children find math boring.
School should teach writing, reading, math, foreign languages, physics, chemistry, biology, history and geography and most important: problem solving skills. Problem solving skills is the only thing that will advance them.
Absolutely true! But before that, educate teachers not just to read-out what is written in school books (children at that age already know how to read), but to explain, lead and animate children. They are all explorers, just give them guidances.
Is computer literacy for 14 year olds still an issue? Really?
Of course it is! Computer literacy is much more then just clicking around with a mouse. Especially 14 year olds need to be educated about not only the technical side of computers, but also about sociological side (just turn around and check how many of them put everything about themselves on Facebook).
A thousand times this. It's about time the rest of the world stands up and tells the Americans to go fuck themselves.
It will never happen because our governments are just a pawns and out countries are just USA colonies (and don't say Americans, most of Americans are just corporation slaves the same as we are)
It's not a stupid question, it's a flamebait used for trolling!
There real question is why this crap is accepted as a story and especially why is allowed that he put a link to his "non-profit organization". He just wants free advertisement and to generate traffic to his site.
A lot of European cities were rebuilt on the same place over and over again, after wars, natural catastrophes, crazy rulers,...
There are layers and layers of building foundations and walls under the modern (and especially not so modern) buildings. It's not uncommon constructions to be stopped for excavations to take place.
It's not true that *most* people can program. You maybe wanted to say that *most* people (related to programming) can write code which can be compiled, but only the real programmers can write and maintain useful code.
Real life example: my company bought HW platform and software from some other company. We now have to maintain the code where in one critical file there is a line like:
SOME_MIN_VALUE = some_global_pointer->element.min;
SOME_MIN_VALUE is of course, a normal variable.
For me the one who wrote that line deserves to go to the programmers hell!
The German philosopher Immanuel Kant defined "Anarchy" in his article about anthropology in the chapter "Freiheit und Gesetz" (http://korpora.zim.uni-duisburg-essen.de/kant/aa07/330.html) as follows:
A Law And Freedom without Violence (Anarchy)
B Law And Violence without Freedom (Despotism)
C Violence without Freedom And Law (Barbarism)
D Violence with Freedom And Law (Republic)
Maybe if the Slashdot community developed an anti-SOPA fund, then we could donate this money to the politicians who currently support SOPA so that they will stop supporting SOPA. The idea being that the anti-SOPA people donate more than the pro-SOPA people, so that we have more votes on our side.
So, democracy today functions as follows:
1, "elect" bunch of people (doesn’t meters who they are because they all come from the same pool)
2. some group/company/organization needs some law to make more money, so they pay for it
3. "our representatives" push the law where it needs to be pushed
4. interested groups/companies/organizations organize auction and who gives more wins
5. "we" are screwed in any case
I really wonder why is that still called democracy (for those who doesn't know the term comes from the Greek word – (demokratía) "rule of the people",which was coined from (demos) "people" and (Kratos) "power")
Germany was only partially invaded by the western allies, the russians did the lion share including the brutal Berlin battle. Japan's final battle by comparison was relatively peaceful.
Nokia's business has, and always has been, to advance mobile phone technologies through hardware innovation. Selling their smart phone business would be bit like selling your left arm.
More like a selling the head and I wouldn't be surprised if they really do it.
Stephen Elop did the *great* job as a M$ mole and he gave Nokia on a silver platter. Smartphones will be rebranded as M$ phones and Nokia brand will be sold to some Chinese manufacturer.
They may be more intelligent, but that does not mean they are better informed.
So you say you are better informed? What makes you think that?
The media industry gets more money giving people what they want rather than giving people what they "should" get. You want "mental junk food" all the time? Sure no problem. Even google has been known to change their search results so that each user gets more of what Google thinks the user would want.
The media industry brainwashes people so that they "think" that is what they want. "Mental junk food" is cheaper to produce then what people "should" get.
Perhaps if you watched Discovery instead of MTV, you'd be aware of the Flynn Effect
I don't watch any of them.
Thanks for the information about Flynn Effect, it's quite interesting, but if it's really true (Don’t believe any statistics you don’t make up yourself) that would mean that the situation is even sadder - general population is more intelligent as before, but not using that intelligence (just like before).
Not always. In the company where I work we need to support some older devices and programs compiled under Win 3.11 or DOS using proprietary compilers. I'm quite sure we could manage to get all that running under VM (well, in DOS case I think it would be better to try with DOSBox), but the effort for doing that is not worth it. So we keep "collecting" all representatives of the Windows family...
First, Banks don't investigate you, they just check with the Credit Agency.
Second, this would require a change to what is allowed to count against your credit score, credit rating companies cannot just arbitrarily pick random shit.
Next, this would require a wholesale change in the entire way our society handles private contracts. Giving the logins above would be a breech of TOS for all those sites just to start with.
Additionally, this would require a complete 180 turn in regards to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Currently if someone were to login using your credentials, they would technically be in violation of the Act as it would be considered Unauthorized Access to a Computer or Network Device, which just so happens to be a Federal Felony.
And Finally, the second any of those things were done there would be a court case challenging the practice on the grounds of Right to Free Association.
So in closing, no this is not relevant, and if you insist on having it then it should be in the Idle section not on the front page.
Everything what you say is true if the Credit Agencies play it fair. Unfortunately we all know that they do not give a shit about fairness.
Like it or not, everything about you on Internet (irrelevant if you put it or someone else) will be used against you.
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Yes, but you can only train a "talent"... If the talent is completely non-existing in the kid, then no amount of training will do any good. That's why, until today, I suck completely at music. My teachers, back then, pulled their hair out with me as a pupil. This stuff goed completely above my head and no amount of training could get me to play anything.
Are you sure? Do you like music? If you like classical music, jazz or blues it's very probable that you have the talent and that your teachers were too occupied pulling their hear instead of awaking the interest in you.
Yes... I know, I've been a teacher in training. You pretty much quote from the "Teaching for Dummies" handbook. ;-)
Well, I quote my "Methodic of teaching Mathematics" exam book and my practical time in the special mathematical class.
Basically: you expect superhuman abilities from teachers...
I just expect them not to be bureaucrats and think a little bit (basically they should be doing the same thing that Socrates did on streets of Athens).
Yes, that expectation is one that made me quit too.
There I can fully understand you...
I'd say: try it... not a handfull of kids, a full class including the "characters" that are already completely demotivated. Preferably in full puberty....
I'm not 100% certain, but the "explorer" part ceases to exist around puberty.... My experience, I might be 100% off.
Unfortunately, that is true and very sad... The process of teaching must start in kindergarten, have it's full power during elementary school and specialize and guide abstract thinking afterwards. To start in puberty to bring them basics is off course too late.
According to pedagogy, that's not entirely unexpected because at that age abstract thinking is way in early stages. I know it's elitist to say (and as a teacher, you're not supposed to even think about that possibility), but coding and the abstract thinking needed for it is a property of the kid, not something you can really teach.
Coding and abstract thinking is something you should train, not teach (or teach how to code and think). The main problem of all educational systems today is that we want to put as much "facts" in children's head, instead of show them how to figure out some things themselves. That is a reason why children find math boring.
School should teach writing, reading, math, foreign languages, physics, chemistry, biology, history and geography and most important: problem solving skills. Problem solving skills is the only thing that will advance them.
Absolutely true! But before that, educate teachers not just to read-out what is written in school books (children at that age already know how to read), but to explain, lead and animate children. They are all explorers, just give them guidances.
Is computer literacy for 14 year olds still an issue? Really?
Of course it is! Computer literacy is much more then just clicking around with a mouse. Especially 14 year olds need to be educated about not only the technical side of computers, but also about sociological side (just turn around and check how many of them put everything about themselves on Facebook).
A thousand times this. It's about time the rest of the world stands up and tells the Americans to go fuck themselves.
It will never happen because our governments are just a pawns and out countries are just USA colonies (and don't say Americans, most of Americans are just corporation slaves the same as we are)
Try the 'continue' statement
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/nutsandbolts/branch.html
'continue' statement allies only to one loop level. He wants to jump out from several nested loops.
It's not a stupid question, it's a flamebait used for trolling!
There real question is why this crap is accepted as a story and especially why is allowed that he put a link to his "non-profit organization". He just wants free advertisement and to generate traffic to his site.
Slashdot, home of the Linux Cocksucker Boy Toys.
Can you, please, post us a link to the Linux Cocksucker Boy Toys source code.
"WORKSFORME"
The most unhelpful response to a bug report ever.
But very helpful response on trolling.
A lot of European cities were rebuilt on the same place over and over again, after wars, natural catastrophes, crazy rulers,...
There are layers and layers of building foundations and walls under the modern (and especially not so modern) buildings. It's not uncommon constructions to be stopped for excavations to take place.
It's not true that *most* people can program. You maybe wanted to say that *most* people (related to programming) can write code which can be compiled, but only the real programmers can write and maintain useful code.
Real life example: my company bought HW platform and software from some other company. We now have to maintain the code where in one critical file there is a line like:
SOME_MIN_VALUE = some_global_pointer->element.min;
SOME_MIN_VALUE is of course, a normal variable.
For me the one who wrote that line deserves to go to the programmers hell!
The Greeks also considered "demokratos" to be equivalent to anarchy.
The meaning of anarchy is different, as Kant explains:
Immanuel Kant's societal categories
The German philosopher Immanuel Kant defined "Anarchy" in his article about anthropology in the chapter "Freiheit und Gesetz" (http://korpora.zim.uni-duisburg-essen.de/kant/aa07/330.html) as follows:
A Law And Freedom without Violence (Anarchy)
B Law And Violence without Freedom (Despotism)
C Violence without Freedom And Law (Barbarism)
D Violence with Freedom And Law (Republic)
Maybe if the Slashdot community developed an anti-SOPA fund, then we could donate this money to the politicians who currently support SOPA so that they will stop supporting SOPA. The idea being that the anti-SOPA people donate more than the pro-SOPA people, so that we have more votes on our side.
So, democracy today functions as follows:
1, "elect" bunch of people (doesn’t meters who they are because they all come from the same pool)
2. some group/company/organization needs some law to make more money, so they pay for it
3. "our representatives" push the law where it needs to be pushed
4. interested groups/companies/organizations organize auction and who gives more wins
5. "we" are screwed in any case
I really wonder why is that still called democracy (for those who doesn't know the term comes from the Greek word – (demokratía) "rule of the people",which was coined from (demos) "people" and (Kratos) "power")
Germany was only partially invaded by the western allies, the russians did the lion share including the brutal Berlin battle. Japan's final battle by comparison was relatively peaceful.
Tell that to Russians who fought in Manchuria Soviet invasion of Manchuria
Nokia's business has, and always has been, to advance mobile phone technologies through hardware innovation. Selling their smart phone business would be bit like selling your left arm.
More like a selling the head and I wouldn't be surprised if they really do it.
Stephen Elop did the *great* job as a M$ mole and he gave Nokia on a silver platter. Smartphones will be rebranded as M$ phones and Nokia brand will be sold to some Chinese manufacturer.
How do you measure and rate the application of intelligence among the populace?
What is intelligence anyway? Can you really measure it?
Why do you think that TV is the primary cause in the "dumbing down" of western society? Please, no more dreary platitudes.
Just switch you brain and it will be clear to you.
(And it's not only western society, obviously it happens in China also)
They may be more intelligent, but that does not mean they are better informed.
So you say you are better informed? What makes you think that?
The media industry gets more money giving people what they want rather than giving people what they "should" get. You want "mental junk food" all the time? Sure no problem. Even google has been known to change their search results so that each user gets more of what Google thinks the user would want.
The media industry brainwashes people so that they "think" that is what they want. "Mental junk food" is cheaper to produce then what people "should" get.
This requires that we were "all" smart in the first place. I would argue that we have a more intelligent populace overall than at anytime in History.
That is true, and very sad, because we don't use that intelligence:
Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sundial in the shade?
- Benjamin Franklin
Perhaps if you watched Discovery instead of MTV, you'd be aware of the Flynn Effect
I don't watch any of them.
Thanks for the information about Flynn Effect, it's quite interesting, but if it's really true (Don’t believe any statistics you don’t make up yourself) that would mean that the situation is even sadder - general population is more intelligent as before, but not using that intelligence (just like before).
If I had my own country, I would make reality TV illegal too.
Amen!
Maybe he doesn't support with links what he claims, but he is nevertheless right. We are all dumbed down by the entertainment industry.
Not always. In the company where I work we need to support some older devices and programs compiled under Win 3.11 or DOS using proprietary compilers. I'm quite sure we could manage to get all that running under VM (well, in DOS case I think it would be better to try with DOSBox), but the effort for doing that is not worth it. So we keep "collecting" all representatives of the Windows family...
The few things where the tolerances really did matter, like screw threads, you can still get SAE standard as well as metric.
Using inches (but maybe called differently e.g. zoll in Germany) for screws, screw threads and pipes is still in use in Europe.
Perhaps the wages or treatment of staff is particularly poor, though he (or she) does say he developed it in his own time.
If he was paid, that was not his own time.
First, Banks don't investigate you, they just check with the Credit Agency. Second, this would require a change to what is allowed to count against your credit score, credit rating companies cannot just arbitrarily pick random shit. Next, this would require a wholesale change in the entire way our society handles private contracts. Giving the logins above would be a breech of TOS for all those sites just to start with. Additionally, this would require a complete 180 turn in regards to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. Currently if someone were to login using your credentials, they would technically be in violation of the Act as it would be considered Unauthorized Access to a Computer or Network Device, which just so happens to be a Federal Felony. And Finally, the second any of those things were done there would be a court case challenging the practice on the grounds of Right to Free Association.
So in closing, no this is not relevant, and if you insist on having it then it should be in the Idle section not on the front page.
Everything what you say is true if the Credit Agencies play it fair. Unfortunately we all know that they do not give a shit about fairness.
Like it or not, everything about you on Internet (irrelevant if you put it or someone else) will be used against you.
i don't "do file-share"... i visited the site... my current dynamically assigned IP wasn't on the list.
you're an idiot.
Now it is.