That's because you haven't been to the mountains. Farmland is flat, boring, and smells (fertilizer), but mountains can be quite nice for hiking and solitude, with the bonus of having interesting terrain.
The chance that the entire team was incompetent is very small. When a project fails, look to its management, not to every single engineer on the team. Also keep in mind that half of software projects in general fail; it's a very immature industry.
Perhaps you are right in that some learn by example (mimickers?) while others learn by applying the rules (thinkers?), and so the school decided to teach logical proofs without first teaching logic because they were catering to the mimickers.
Even so, that's a mistake! They should both! At least speed over the rules of logic before trying to teach proof-writing by example! Don't just give the finger to your thinkers.
I had sooooooo many moments in college where I thought, "why in the hell didn't they just tell is that in high school??" Maybe they were trying to dumb things down so much that only an idiot could understand?
If my criticism is too harsh, I apologize. But I lost a lot of respect for my HS teachers while in college. I really should have been allowed to just audit the college courses, I think. Perhaps HS teachers should be required to do so, too.
Well, I would like to see logic in particular taught it school, not just because of all the "WTF" moments from proofs in math class, but also because it would put a stop to a lot of the most deceptive politicians and hucksters. If the average man could cry out "that's a simple modus ponens error!" when someone twisted their logic backward, we would live in a better world.
Haha, thanks. I thought along those lines when I wrote it, actually. Unfortunately, I only learned logic and probability as part of my college major. These subject are far more important than calculus or advanced algebra, so they really should be taught to everyone in HS.
I assume you studied computer science or software engineering. What college could graduate students without teaching them logic? It's fundamental to understanding digital circuits, nevermind mathematical proofs.
Humans have an innate sense of logic (well, most of them), but that's not enough for you to/really/ understand mathematical proofs, especially if you're talking about something like inductive proofs by contradiction.
You must have attended a very very small school. Most US schools have different courses based on skill level. Your conclusions about the US school system are therefore wrong. They are merely conclusions about very small schools.
I agree, but that's not my point. My point is that understanding the formal rules of logic is fundamental to being able to understand proofs. But the bureaucrats who came up with the US math curriculum just said "the kids should learn this and this and this" but never attempted to put those things in the right order so that it was even possible for them to learn all those things.
It's no wonder kids think they are bad at math or hate the subject--it is presented to them in an impossible form.
High school students are forced to write proofs as part of geometry class. However, they are never taught the rules of logic before being asked to write these proofs. That is just one example of how horribly, horribly stupid the HS math curriculum is in the US.
What? Don't give the lunatic a reasonable solution to his problem! Hate is the source of his power! Only a liberal like you would try to rob him of his God-given right to hate.
I agree that it is possible (but difficult) to identify sql injection vulnerabilities with automated code inspection. I do not think XSS can be identified so easily. In a web app, user-submitted text is added to a database. Then who-knows-what happens to it. Eventually, something based on that text is submitted as output, at which time special characters must be escaped.
The only way to accurately identify XSS in such a scenario is to track the input from the user, into the database, and back out, so that you know the special characters are escaped. That's not something software could accurately do for a general case, without tons of false positives.
I don't think there is an official definition of "depression," but I do know people associate the word with the 1930's, as that was the only depression taught about in public school. So, you could argue anything is a "depression" due to the lack of definition, but using the word to describe this recession will be quite misleading to nearly every observer.
As to food prices, earning enough to eat on used to require most of an average person's wages. Now it is less than 10%. So in the long term, food is absolutely fantastically cheap.
This is much more similar to the recession of the eighties than to the depressions of days gone by. Dual income households and drastically lower food costs mean the impact of high unemployment is much much less severe.
Wince 6 on my HTC phone seems to be very not-ready for consumer use. This device routinely freezes or lags by several seconds from when a button is pressed. It supports everything, including full Bluetooth support, but I can't stand waiting and waiting for my keypresses to be registered by device.
Android may lack features, but if it responds promptly to user input, it is more mature a product than Wince 6.
He used the word "only." That's not just racism to minorities, it further marginalizes poor whites.
Growing up a poor white kid in Appalachia is worse than a poor black kid in the city. Not only do you have all the disadvantages of being poor, but also: nobody gives a shit about you.
I'm sick of you racists thinking you can get away with it because its PC to be a racist toward certain groups.
When looking into muni bonds a while back, I encountered all sorts of information about underfunded pensions. Typically, they assumed some impossible rate of growth for their investments, and paid some auditor to look the other way. Many states are going to have to default to meet pension obligations in the next twenty years, it seems. Unless, of course, there is some insane economic and population boom in every state. That's not something I would bet my retirement on, though.
The great depression had 30% unemployment, and it came at a time when dual-income households were rare. What we have here--this is nothing at all like a depression.
Government jobs tend to come with outrageous, unfunded pensions. Every time a state employee is hired, the universe sends a big fuck you to the children of that government, as they will be paying millions for the pyramid scheme that is public pensions.
Slashdot Mirror
That's because you haven't been to the mountains. Farmland is flat, boring, and smells (fertilizer), but mountains can be quite nice for hiking and solitude, with the bonus of having interesting terrain.
The chance that the entire team was incompetent is very small. When a project fails, look to its management, not to every single engineer on the team. Also keep in mind that half of software projects in general fail; it's a very immature industry.
Perhaps you are right in that some learn by example (mimickers?) while others learn by applying the rules (thinkers?), and so the school decided to teach logical proofs without first teaching logic because they were catering to the mimickers.
Even so, that's a mistake! They should both! At least speed over the rules of logic before trying to teach proof-writing by example! Don't just give the finger to your thinkers.
I had sooooooo many moments in college where I thought, "why in the hell didn't they just tell is that in high school??" Maybe they were trying to dumb things down so much that only an idiot could understand?
If my criticism is too harsh, I apologize. But I lost a lot of respect for my HS teachers while in college. I really should have been allowed to just audit the college courses, I think. Perhaps HS teachers should be required to do so, too.
Well, I would like to see logic in particular taught it school, not just because of all the "WTF" moments from proofs in math class, but also because it would put a stop to a lot of the most deceptive politicians and hucksters. If the average man could cry out "that's a simple modus ponens error!" when someone twisted their logic backward, we would live in a better world.
Geometry is a grade 9 or 10 class in the US.
Why do you say it is false? Without any data on laziness distribution by occupation, it is the best possible estimate, and logically sound.
Haha, thanks. I thought along those lines when I wrote it, actually. Unfortunately, I only learned logic and probability as part of my college major. These subject are far more important than calculus or advanced algebra, so they really should be taught to everyone in HS.
I assume you studied computer science or software engineering. What college could graduate students without teaching them logic? It's fundamental to understanding digital circuits, nevermind mathematical proofs.
Humans have an innate sense of logic (well, most of them), but that's not enough for you to /really/ understand mathematical proofs, especially if you're talking about something like inductive proofs by contradiction.
As an engineer, I try to design systems which function even when humans behave as humans. The educational system should have similar goals.
You must have attended a very very small school. Most US schools have different courses based on skill level. Your conclusions about the US school system are therefore wrong. They are merely conclusions about very small schools.
No, that's just indicative of lazy teachers. Since most humans are lazy and all teachers are human, this is to be expected.
I agree, but that's not my point. My point is that understanding the formal rules of logic is fundamental to being able to understand proofs. But the bureaucrats who came up with the US math curriculum just said "the kids should learn this and this and this" but never attempted to put those things in the right order so that it was even possible for them to learn all those things.
It's no wonder kids think they are bad at math or hate the subject--it is presented to them in an impossible form.
High school students are forced to write proofs as part of geometry class. However, they are never taught the rules of logic before being asked to write these proofs. That is just one example of how horribly, horribly stupid the HS math curriculum is in the US.
What? Don't give the lunatic a reasonable solution to his problem! Hate is the source of his power! Only a liberal like you would try to rob him of his God-given right to hate.
I agree that it is possible (but difficult) to identify sql injection vulnerabilities with automated code inspection. I do not think XSS can be identified so easily. In a web app, user-submitted text is added to a database. Then who-knows-what happens to it. Eventually, something based on that text is submitted as output, at which time special characters must be escaped.
The only way to accurately identify XSS in such a scenario is to track the input from the user, into the database, and back out, so that you know the special characters are escaped. That's not something software could accurately do for a general case, without tons of false positives.
No, it's not. It's holding an HTTP session open. That is not the same thing as a TCP socket.
This is true. What they need to do is simplify their payroll policy. Then they could use a much cheaper system--possibly even COTS + a consultant.
I don't think there is an official definition of "depression," but I do know people associate the word with the 1930's, as that was the only depression taught about in public school. So, you could argue anything is a "depression" due to the lack of definition, but using the word to describe this recession will be quite misleading to nearly every observer.
As to food prices, earning enough to eat on used to require most of an average person's wages. Now it is less than 10%. So in the long term, food is absolutely fantastically cheap.
This is much more similar to the recession of the eighties than to the depressions of days gone by. Dual income households and drastically lower food costs mean the impact of high unemployment is much much less severe.
Wince 6 on my HTC phone seems to be very not-ready for consumer use. This device routinely freezes or lags by several seconds from when a button is pressed. It supports everything, including full Bluetooth support, but I can't stand waiting and waiting for my keypresses to be registered by device.
Android may lack features, but if it responds promptly to user input, it is more mature a product than Wince 6.
He used the word "only." That's not just racism to minorities, it further marginalizes poor whites.
Growing up a poor white kid in Appalachia is worse than a poor black kid in the city. Not only do you have all the disadvantages of being poor, but also: nobody gives a shit about you.
I'm sick of you racists thinking you can get away with it because its PC to be a racist toward certain groups.
When looking into muni bonds a while back, I encountered all sorts of information about underfunded pensions. Typically, they assumed some impossible rate of growth for their investments, and paid some auditor to look the other way. Many states are going to have to default to meet pension obligations in the next twenty years, it seems. Unless, of course, there is some insane economic and population boom in every state. That's not something I would bet my retirement on, though.
A google search shows that there seems to be an entire site dedicated to this scam: http://www.pensiontsunami.com/
I haven't looked at the site, but I'm sure you know how to use google.
Oh, and I naturally decided not to put any of my money in muni bonds. That would put me at the bottom of the pension pyramid when it crumbles.
The great depression had 30% unemployment, and it came at a time when dual-income households were rare. What we have here--this is nothing at all like a depression.
Just tell them about your account on goatse.cx and other similar sites. Oh, and you MUST include a RickRoll in your site list.
Government jobs tend to come with outrageous, unfunded pensions. Every time a state employee is hired, the universe sends a big fuck you to the children of that government, as they will be paying millions for the pyramid scheme that is public pensions.