I've got about 24,400 people that would take strong issue with that comment.
"We got to this point because of the hard work of the engineers and technical community who designed this aircraft and worked through all the initial issues," said Tom McCarty, president of the Society of Professional Engineering Employees in Aerospace (SPEEA) IFPTE Local 2001. "It was the employees in the Puget Sound region and in Kansas, who made this possible." - SPEEA Executive Director Ray Goforth (at the 787 delivery to ANA)
BTW: I did watch the first flight come about 1000' over my house on Tulalip Bay. Talk about feeling pride for what the people in my community can build.
You went to school at the wrong time. At that time any warm body that could "hello world" could get a job pulling at least $50k, $70k if you could make it loop.
"..no-one needed assembler - we could do everything by toggling machine codes in on the front panel."
That's why I replace the switches on the front of my IMSAI 8080 with Strowger swiches and a rotary dial. That was a real advancement in productivity. I had to convert to thinking in octal first, finding a 16 position rotary dial proved troublesome.
Another skill to keep useful is basic switch and router admin. I don't mean managing BGP or deep VPN work, but at least enough to check an interface or to get a switch port on the right VLAN. A bit of IOS will get you far, a bit more of Juniper will have you 80% covered. And, like you said, if you know the concepts, you can stare/google enough to get by.
I'm sure you, jd, have the skills. I just wanted to add this. I'm really a layer 1-3 guy, but I can admin a unix FreeBSD box (and linux and sysV to some extent), bring a winders server back up (usually), and hack out a bit of shell or perl when needed. I'm also really good at HTML 1.0!
Layer 1-3 still needs services (tftp, dhcp, etc.) and needs to be monitored (mrtg, cacti, etc.) A lot of available positions require knowing a bit of both networking and admin. Often places can't afford to hire a person for each task. I do still need to get some more db skills though. Working with SQL is mostly a crap shoot with me.
Regarding old skills: I'm doing more T1 work these days than when I was an ISP rat back in the late 90s. I started working on fiber back in the late 90s and have only seen more and more. (Did you know that Lowe's Hardware stores often have the largest fiber infrastructure in a given area?) And my unix skills just keep growing in demand. I think TFA's half-life theory is a bit narrow.
I'm an old hardware hacker and it JUST SEEMS WRONG that Intel is using the number 68. That is for Motorola, 65 is for MOS and Rockwell. 80 is for Intel.
The first instance of cellulose triacetate degradation was reported to the Eastman Kodak Company within a decade of its introduction in 1948. The first report came from the Government of India, whose film was stored in hot, humid conditions. It was followed by further reports of degradation from collections stored in similar conditions. These observations resulted in continuing studies in the Kodak laboratories during the 1960s. Beginning in the 1980s, there was a great deal of focus upon film stability following frequent reports of cellulose triacetate degradation. This material releases acetic acid, the key ingredient in vinegar and responsible for its acidic smell. The problem became known as the "vinegar syndrome."[3]
Here's the real press release (and quite detailed, it should have been TFA.)
In short, I have to appolgise for the above post regarding the actions of the Queens DA. Here's part of the press release:
"The investigation was conducted by Detectives Enrico Morriello, Edwin Romero and Dafeng Zeng, of the New York City Police Departmentâ(TM)s Identity Theft Squad under the supervision of Lieutenant Ruperto Aguilar and the command of Deputy Inspector Gregory T. Antonsen, of the Organized Theft and Identity Theft Task Force, and the overall supervision of Deputy Chief Jeremiah Quinlan, commander of the Special Investigations Division, and Chief of Detectives Phil T. Pulaski."
If you go on to read the actual press release I doubt that the DA left out the names of any distant half cousins. It just shows how badly a "news editor" can mangle a bit of "reporting."
Anywho.. kudos to NYPD on a very thorough case that actually effects citizens in their city. To be honest, the feds should have been on this. (I wonder what the turf wars were like on this.)
The only agency I see referenced in TFA is the Queens DA. I'm guessing that this, by it's nature, would be interstate and therefor investigated by the US Secret Service. But I would expect the USSS to hand the case over to a US Attorney General for prosecution. I'll have to do some google-fu to get beyond the self aggrandizing release by the Queens DA to get a more complete story. There is no way he did this by himself. Kinda prickish not to mention the others involved.
When the PR clip is from NASA, I expect it to be correct. Things going whoosh in space take the fun out of it for me. Of course I grew up reading Clarke, not watching Star Wars.
They still could have had very weak audio for the parts on Mars.
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Maybe HP could come out with a line of high quality function generators.
I've got about 24,400 people that would take strong issue with that comment.
"We got to this point because of the hard work of the engineers and technical community who designed this aircraft and worked through all the initial issues," said Tom McCarty, president of the Society of Professional Engineering Employees in Aerospace (SPEEA) IFPTE Local 2001. "It was the employees in the Puget Sound region and in Kansas, who made this possible." - SPEEA Executive Director Ray Goforth (at the 787 delivery to ANA)
BTW: I did watch the first flight come about 1000' over my house on Tulalip Bay. Talk about feeling pride for what the people in my community can build.
You went to school at the wrong time. At that time any warm body that could "hello world" could get a job pulling at least $50k, $70k if you could make it loop.
"..no-one needed assembler - we could do everything by toggling machine codes in on the front panel."
That's why I replace the switches on the front of my IMSAI 8080 with Strowger swiches and a rotary dial. That was a real advancement in productivity. I had to convert to thinking in octal first, finding a 16 position rotary dial proved troublesome.
"What is it you like about VB? Does it even have regular expressions?"
Yeah! STR$(), MID$() and LEN().
Another skill to keep useful is basic switch and router admin. I don't mean managing BGP or deep VPN work, but at least enough to check an interface or to get a switch port on the right VLAN. A bit of IOS will get you far, a bit more of Juniper will have you 80% covered. And, like you said, if you know the concepts, you can stare/google enough to get by.
I'm sure you, jd, have the skills. I just wanted to add this. I'm really a layer 1-3 guy, but I can admin a unix FreeBSD box (and linux and sysV to some extent), bring a winders server back up (usually), and hack out a bit of shell or perl when needed. I'm also really good at HTML 1.0!
Layer 1-3 still needs services (tftp, dhcp, etc.) and needs to be monitored (mrtg, cacti, etc.) A lot of available positions require knowing a bit of both networking and admin. Often places can't afford to hire a person for each task. I do still need to get some more db skills though. Working with SQL is mostly a crap shoot with me.
Regarding old skills: I'm doing more T1 work these days than when I was an ISP rat back in the late 90s. I started working on fiber back in the late 90s and have only seen more and more. (Did you know that Lowe's Hardware stores often have the largest fiber infrastructure in a given area?) And my unix skills just keep growing in demand. I think TFA's half-life theory is a bit narrow.
Come on Geekoid, you're not new here.
And fuck me if I can remember the name, the Midas Effect or something.
Anyway, the ending was that they then got the robots to consume.
Thanks for the BG Micro link. My wife will be hiding the credit card now ;)
Which allowed TI to grab 32.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_TMS320
With a sidestep to piss on Zilog's grave.
I'm an old hardware hacker and it JUST SEEMS WRONG that Intel is using the number 68. That is for Motorola, 65 is for MOS and Rockwell. 80 is for Intel.
It's WRONG I say, WRONG!
T-Mobile with UMA (aka WiFi Calling) will do you well. I live on a small Indian fishing village in NW Washington State. Crap cell coverage here too.
That sounds like most of my product support calls.
"Frankly I can't imagine ever being bored,.."
And yet you are here posting on slashdot. ;)
Of course I'm here reading your postings, but I have a cold today so that's MY story.
Footnote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar_syndrome#Decay_and_the_.22vinegar_syndrome.22
Decay and the "vinegar syndrome"
The first instance of cellulose triacetate degradation was reported to the Eastman Kodak Company within a decade of its introduction in 1948. The first report came from the Government of India, whose film was stored in hot, humid conditions. It was followed by further reports of degradation from collections stored in similar conditions. These observations resulted in continuing studies in the Kodak laboratories during the 1960s.
Beginning in the 1980s, there was a great deal of focus upon film stability following frequent reports of cellulose triacetate degradation. This material releases acetic acid, the key ingredient in vinegar and responsible for its acidic smell. The problem became known as the "vinegar syndrome."[3]
Vancouver, BC or Vancouver, WA? Knowing which country this happened in might help.
What are these ads on webpages that people keep talking about? I don't see any.
What's wrong with ? I like the old boat anchors as much as the next guy but man, that shit weighed a ton!
Add a link to the research and you would get an informative mod.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Can't_Go_Home_Again
Ok, it was a bad press article, go figure.
Here's the real press release (and quite detailed, it should have been TFA.)
In short, I have to appolgise for the above post regarding the actions of the Queens DA. Here's part of the press release:
"The investigation was conducted by Detectives Enrico Morriello, Edwin Romero and Dafeng Zeng, of the New York City Police Departmentâ(TM)s Identity Theft Squad under the supervision of Lieutenant Ruperto Aguilar and the command of Deputy Inspector Gregory T. Antonsen, of the Organized Theft and Identity Theft Task Force, and the overall supervision of Deputy Chief Jeremiah Quinlan, commander of the Special Investigations Division, and Chief of Detectives Phil T. Pulaski."
If you go on to read the actual press release I doubt that the DA left out the names of any distant half cousins. It just shows how badly a "news editor" can mangle a bit of "reporting."
Anywho.. kudos to NYPD on a very thorough case that actually effects citizens in their city. To be honest, the feds should have been on this. (I wonder what the turf wars were like on this.)
The only agency I see referenced in TFA is the Queens DA. I'm guessing that this, by it's nature, would be interstate and therefor investigated by the US Secret Service. But I would expect the USSS to hand the case over to a US Attorney General for prosecution. I'll have to do some google-fu to get beyond the self aggrandizing release by the Queens DA to get a more complete story. There is no way he did this by himself. Kinda prickish not to mention the others involved.
In the words of Wowbagger, the Infinitely Prolonged, "You're a jerk, a complete arsehole," Garrett.
When the PR clip is from NASA, I expect it to be correct. Things going whoosh in space take the fun out of it for me. Of course I grew up reading Clarke, not watching Star Wars.
They still could have had very weak audio for the parts on Mars.
This is freaking science, not popcorn sci-fi.