There is no intervening. You already let that convicted mass murderer go free to his homeland. What you are referring to is the US' discovery of that abhorrent action, and inherent need to find the truth of the matter.
Somehow I doubt that you would have been happier had his conviction been overturned on appeal, which had every chance of happening if hadn't been released on compassionate grounds. If there was any dodgy deals done, it was because that would have been a huge political embarrassment.
We are happy with neither. Where was this dog's compassion for the 270 people it murdered? Over half of them (190) were US citizens.
The issue is two fold. You let it go free to it's homeland where it is a hero for committing those murders. That's the first. You supposedly traded it for BP's corporate financial. That's the second.
Maybe you hate your government as much as we on this side of the pond hate ours? I can't tell. One thing we know for sure is that you let that son of a bitch go before it was a corpse. Shame on you. We will wait to see if there will be any fallout in the aftermath of the investigation.
is the US Government trying to force the British Prime Minister to intervene in the Scottish courts over Meghrabi? US politicians seem to be doing their best to make Cameron feel that anti-British sentiment is alive and kicking. I quite realise that we actually are a declining little country of no great importance to the US except as a kicking boy, but they should be aware that Etonians are trained to hide their real feelings - and exact revenge at a time that suits them.
There is no intervening. You already let that convicted mass murderer go free to his homeland. What you are referring to is the US' discovery of that abhorrent action, and inherent need to find the truth of the matter.
The truth is you let him go free. What we in the US would like to know is if it is also true that you did it to gain contracts for BP.
Citing Asperger's as a medical condition to prevent extradition is silly. Being socially deficient doesn't make you incapable of determining right and wrong, if in fact he really has the condition at all considering the ridiculous amount of self-diagnosis out there. Genuine Asperger's is a form of autism and deeply impacts your life. The guy left a threat on one of the computers promising future hacks--he knew what he was doing.
This is starting to sound like another "Free Mitnick" movement, where people support a guy who legitimately deserves legal punishment just to make themselves feel compassionate.
I prefer to pass judgments, perform jury duties, and play executioner as often as possible. I find these activities benefit my society greatly, especially if they can be done before the actual court case transpires.
If the FBI came to me and told me one of my hosts had bomb making info on it, I'd shut it down too regardless if it was foreign or domestic host, or just even a p0wn.
I can't see any reason to have that info on a web site.
Well, +5 Insightful be damned. You, and every mod that modded you up, are totalitarian nationalists. Fucking evil.
What's even more fucking evil though is that you are actually proud to proclaim you would trample on someone's freedom of speech because the Government told you to.
I have piles and piles and piles of information found in books and articles that I'm sure you can't see any reason to have that information on a website either. Thank fucking GOD people like you aren't in complete control yet, and thank fucking GOD I have many guns at my disposal to prevent you from gaining complete control.
Let's see: There have been successful terrorist attacks around the world since 9/11. These attacks imply that terrorists are still active. Terrorists groups have re-asserted their ongoing desire to conduct similar attacks with in the US. Moreover, some such attempts have been made in the US but largely prevented. I'd say those might imply causation, douchebag.
Funny that in Europe many people think its the redneck militaristic Americans who are the douchebags.
There haven't been any successful terrorist attacks on Finland, Slovakia or Portugal either... and those countries can even be reached on foot from the terrorist hotspots. And they haven't severely reduced civil rights or increased their military expenses to a level that is unsustainable on the long term (although Portugal seems to have found ways to go bankrupt even without wasting money on an army).
+4 Insightful? Really? This is clearly flamebait. And since I as a US citizen have a distaste for shit talking europeans, I will bite:
I shall point out to you that you wrote your post in English. No need to thank my country or my ancestors for that, you're welcome! Or perhaps you are of the sort that would prefer the world to speak German?
I shall also point out that Islam seeks power and money, and that I am not sure one would find either in any of the "countries" you listed.
Yes, let's call a spade a spade. China, one of the worst human rights violators on Earth, if not the worst, is our enemy. Just because we trade with them does not make them our friend, nor our frienemy.
In terms of human rights violations, are we that much better when we fund the horrible working conditions to get our electronics at a cheap price?
"We" do not. Corporations do. Corporations only exist to convert resources into profits. Corporations do not care about such petty things like "human rights". Do not confuse human beings with corporations in the future.
And mods - with all the wonderful, colorful buzzwords up there, how has the parent avoided a troll modifier?
Help! Someone with mod points help me please! Won't you please mod the people that disagree with me down? That will teach them good.
And mods - with all the wonderful, colorful buzzwords up there, how has the parent avoided a troll modifier?
Ahh requesting that I am modded troll for trying to enlighten the hippies that the world doesn't run on hugs. Hrm.
Actually, far from the enemy, China is the chief lender of money that keeps the US afloat. China is so tied to us economically the threat of them becoming our "enemy" is laughable.
This lending you speak of is the problem that got us where we are. Money lenders are villains, and borrowing is a disease that has infected the masses.
If they truly wanted to beat the US, all they would need to do is stop loaning the US money and cash in all of their debts to the US. But seeing they own a huge chunk of the US already, it is in their best economic interests to make sure the US is doing okay.
I think they do truly want to beat us, and I think lending us money was the first step on the path to defeating us. They could use the debt as puppet string to cause us to move how they want.
And lighten up Francis - pointing out that the US is good at propaganda (duh) does not make one a "hippie". Do you really think the US isn't good a propaganda, or do you have a quota of people you need to call "hippies" every day? Or do you just think anyone to the left of Glenn Beck is an "ultra-liberal"?
Hippies are notorious enemy sympathizers. I'm too lazy to google a huge list of well known hippy enemy sympathizers for you, especially hippies from the Cold War era. The word "hippy" is shorter and easier to write out than "enemy sympathizer". Honestly, I just don't like liberals, period. Those of you that attempt to garner sympathy and empathy from me to share with my enemies, well, you are my enemies as well.
Or could it be that US is using this as an excuse to take even more control over the Internet?
This is nothing new. I remember reading about such things in the 90's. US is good with propaganda, including entertainment and everything. Just see cold war.
Or could it be that the world really isn't actually filled with hippies like you that think "free love" magically solves all of our problems, and is some kind of fairy dust that you just sprinkle on oppressive totalitarians to infect them with patchouli stink fantasy?
The problem with ultra liberals like yourself is that you seem to think everyone wants to be your friend. The reality is that they don't. Many of them just want to steal/copy your success, or learn how to prevent you from obtaining it.
It would be really nice if China shut down the US internet grid. Even if it was just for a few minutes. I say it would be nice, because I am always amused by the rhetoric spewed by the defender of my enemies.
Yes, let's call a spade a spade. China, one of the worst human rights violators on Earth, if not the worst, is our enemy. Just because we trade with them does not make them our friend, nor our frienemy.
I don't find holding a book very comfortable. And saying "books in our hands for hundreds of years" is just plain wrong AND not to mention completely meaningless.
I know you are trolling, but I have a response: I read a lot. In fact, I have very little reading downtime throughout the day. Whether it be email, IM, magazine, SMS, and you know... books.
I can easily say that I find reading a book the most comfortable form to read from. There really is no beating ambient light for comfortable reading. Back-light and e-ink technology have a lot of advancements to make before they compare to simple paper and ink (purely from a reading comfort point of view).
saying "books in our hands for hundreds of years" is just plain wrong AND not to mention completely meaningless
Citation needed. Clarification needed. Is English plain wrong AND completely meaningless?
I would certainly find an instantaneous thought translator/communicator more useful and efficient, but we puny humans currently lack such fanciful technology. As such, I must make do with my slow speed of spoken or written communication to share ideas with my fellow man.
Hey Mr. Commodore, I agree with your sarcasm 100%. As I also appreciate your point of view; I am wondering what your answer to the following questions would be:
At which point is it socially acceptable to take up arms and execute said tyrants? Or perhaps even just to take up arms and mobilize citizens with the intent to do so?
I'm desperately trying to find a legitimate, reasonable, logical answer to this question. Mainly because I see no reason to defend the right to bear arms unless we actually exercise it when we need to.
I own many firearms. I feel my leaders are tyrants. I want desperately to remove them from power, and to simultaneously put the fear of death into the hearts of other would be tyrants. Honestly, I'm just scared to be the only person with the testicular fortitude to actually bear arms against these people I personally consider tyrants.
Call it what you want; I don't call it faith. I don't have the arrogance of ignorance to assert that whatever notion I previously held is more right than the consensus of people who know better than I do.
The keys for science are qualifications, consensus, and multiple converging lines of evidence. The deniers do have consensus, but they don't have qualifications or multiple lines of evidence. If you want to equate science with religion, that's interesting, but it's not how I see it.
Your opinion is that I'm ignorant. A baseless accusation on your part. Your other opinion is that I'm arrogant; when it's you that are quick to hurl insults. Usually when you can't defend your position with anything but insults and condescension, it implies your position is very weak.
I don't know how pretty much all advanced science reaches its conclusions, but I'm not going to deny it.
I am equating your faith in science with religious faith in God. It's the same. What you fail to realize is that all good science must stand up to the challenge of the skeptics, period. Otherwise it's not science. Period.
I would guess one reason this is such an issue, is that people like you resort to baseless accusations and insults instead of clear-headed explanations and tangible evidence. You don't ask any questions, because your faith has provided you with all the answers.
Not my facts. Blame the World Book Encyclopedia where I looked it up.
It's not a problem that you don't know why 5% would be significant. The problem is that you have apparently decided that your ignorance outweighs the informed conclusions of scientists in a position to know.
So, the simple fact that I have omitted listing every article, author, magazine, and book to show where where I've been to come to these conclusions means that mine are not informed and that I'm ignorant? Also, I haven't made any "decisions", I've just formed opinions based on what I've been taught and what I've read.
Yeah, dude, I also have no idea why 5% is such a big deal.
Cool.
But I'm not a climate scientist, and I'm not going to sit around trying to say that my lack of knowing means there is nothing to know.
Uhm? I'm not sure what relevance this statement has to the current discussion, other than the words "climate scientist" out of context.
I don't know how pretty much all advanced science reaches its conclusions, but I'm not going to deny it.
Here we finally get to your real point. Science is your religion. You have blind faith in science. How unfortunate for you that true science must support its own weight under the scrutiny and skepticism of the world.
It's weird how people think they can add to a debate with experts while being absolute non-experts themselves.
Tell me, can you apply some of your good old common-sense reasoning to the search for the Higgs boson? How about helping out with the search for the proof of the Riemann Hypothesis? At the very least, you should be able to look over the existing efforts and put forth some of your "just can't see" wisdom to filter out the dead-end proofs.
If you can't apply your aw-shucks logic to these problems, then why do you think climate science is any different?
What's even weirder is when I add an anecdote about why none of this matters much to me personally, and someone has to be fully condescending to me while simultaneously adding nothing to the conversation.
I'm not a visual artist or painter, but I still know the fucking sky is blue.
Just like I'm not a "climatologist" or a "statistician", or fuck.. I'm not even a real scientist, but I can still make the claim that I enjoy the weather where I live. I have also read enough about the geological history of my region to make the claim that 10,000 years ago it was covered entirely by glacier, and due to global warming, today it is not.
The last thing I would like to respond to is your "can't see" comment. All of the CO2 in the atmosphere == 100%. You cannot blame a tiny fraction (5%) for the effects caused by the whole. So, again, at this time I am unable to follow the logic about how 5% becomes 100%. Would you be willing to explain that or give me a citation?
Global warming denial is like creationism, it's based on blind faith and its supporters will never give up.
No it's not, it's based on other research that says man's contribution to a natural process is mostly insignificant.
I wouldn't call myself a "warmer", but I also don't know how encyclopedias can print as fact that 95% of CO2 in the atmosphere comes directly from volcanos, rain, and plant matter decay.
If the entire remaining 5% is strictly from man, I just can't see that being a significant contributor to the speeding of this natural process.
Finally, I always like to mention to the AGW folks that 10,000 years ago the place where I live was completely covered by a glacier. I'm very glad for global warming, because where I live is now a beautiful region inhabited by a multitude of species both migratory and permanent.
So dry ice in a plastic soda bottle constitutes a "bomb" these days? I mean, I suppose you could "put an eye out" with it, but it's not really what I would call a "bomb". Are the police just stupid, or is the prosecuting attorney delving into hyperbole?
When I was 13yo I had a friend in middle school that had recently returned from an out of state 4th of July vacation, and came home with a ton of illegal-in-my-state fireworks. I convinced him that it would be a great idea to bring a backpack full to school so we should shoot them off.
Suffice to say that he did bring them, and we skipped the last class of the day and ventured out to the track and field long jump pit. Then, in a blaze of glory we lit off a backpack full of m-80's, black-cats, whistlers, smoke bombs, etc. Just about the time our hearing was returning, we noticed that all 4 grade level principals were rushing us.
At the end of the day, we were yelled at by 4 school principals, 1 school superintendent, 1 county sheriff, 1 deputy sheriff, 4 city police officers, the city bomb squad, the county SWAT unit, the fire chief, the paramedics, and last but not least our parents. I had to pay $400 to sit through a 6hour juvenile delinquent rehab seminar.
The best part is that my poor friend cried the whole time, while I laughed almost hysterically. Now, I told you that story so I could tell you this story: when I my father was 13yo, his neighbor had a son the same age, and they would often go hunting and fishing, and exploring together. The neighbor would often give his son and my father a crate of dynamite and simply tell them "you boys be careful, now!"
The think-of-the-kids mentality is almost solely responsible for this pussification of the USA. Won't someone think of the adults!?!?
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... What we in the US would like to know is if it is also true that you did it to gain contracts for BP.
apparently BP had nothing to do with his release
Now, can we move on?
I'm sure you won't mind if don't just take his word for it, and do our own investigation.
There is no intervening. You already let that convicted mass murderer go free to his homeland. What you are referring to is the US' discovery of that abhorrent action, and inherent need to find the truth of the matter.
Somehow I doubt that you would have been happier had his conviction been overturned on appeal, which had every chance of happening if hadn't been released on compassionate grounds. If there was any dodgy deals done, it was because that would have been a huge political embarrassment.
We are happy with neither. Where was this dog's compassion for the 270 people it murdered? Over half of them (190) were US citizens.
The issue is two fold. You let it go free to it's homeland where it is a hero for committing those murders. That's the first. You supposedly traded it for BP's corporate financial. That's the second.
Maybe you hate your government as much as we on this side of the pond hate ours? I can't tell. One thing we know for sure is that you let that son of a bitch go before it was a corpse. Shame on you. We will wait to see if there will be any fallout in the aftermath of the investigation.
I think the other CEO Steve would happily sell you an OS without adware pre-installed. He usually leaves that up to the OEM or the stupid end-user!
is the US Government trying to force the British Prime Minister to intervene in the Scottish courts over Meghrabi? US politicians seem to be doing their best to make Cameron feel that anti-British sentiment is alive and kicking. I quite realise that we actually are a declining little country of no great importance to the US except as a kicking boy, but they should be aware that Etonians are trained to hide their real feelings - and exact revenge at a time that suits them.
There is no intervening. You already let that convicted mass murderer go free to his homeland. What you are referring to is the US' discovery of that abhorrent action, and inherent need to find the truth of the matter. The truth is you let him go free. What we in the US would like to know is if it is also true that you did it to gain contracts for BP.
Citing Asperger's as a medical condition to prevent extradition is silly. Being socially deficient doesn't make you incapable of determining right and wrong, if in fact he really has the condition at all considering the ridiculous amount of self-diagnosis out there. Genuine Asperger's is a form of autism and deeply impacts your life. The guy left a threat on one of the computers promising future hacks--he knew what he was doing.
This is starting to sound like another "Free Mitnick" movement, where people support a guy who legitimately deserves legal punishment just to make themselves feel compassionate.
I prefer to pass judgments, perform jury duties, and play executioner as often as possible. I find these activities benefit my society greatly, especially if they can be done before the actual court case transpires.
If the FBI came to me and told me one of my hosts had bomb making info on it, I'd shut it down too regardless if it was foreign or domestic host, or just even a p0wn.
I can't see any reason to have that info on a web site.
Well, +5 Insightful be damned. You, and every mod that modded you up, are totalitarian nationalists. Fucking evil.
What's even more fucking evil though is that you are actually proud to proclaim you would trample on someone's freedom of speech because the Government told you to.
I have piles and piles and piles of information found in books and articles that I'm sure you can't see any reason to have that information on a website either. Thank fucking GOD people like you aren't in complete control yet, and thank fucking GOD I have many guns at my disposal to prevent you from gaining complete control.
You, Sir Nethead, are the scum of the Earth.
Let's see: There have been successful terrorist attacks around the world since 9/11. These attacks imply that terrorists are still active. Terrorists groups have re-asserted their ongoing desire to conduct similar attacks with in the US. Moreover, some such attempts have been made in the US but largely prevented. I'd say those might imply causation, douchebag.
Funny that in Europe many people think its the redneck militaristic Americans who are the douchebags.
There haven't been any successful terrorist attacks on Finland, Slovakia or Portugal either... and those countries can even be reached on foot from the terrorist hotspots. And they haven't severely reduced civil rights or increased their military expenses to a level that is unsustainable on the long term (although Portugal seems to have found ways to go bankrupt even without wasting money on an army).
+4 Insightful? Really? This is clearly flamebait. And since I as a US citizen have a distaste for shit talking europeans, I will bite:
I shall point out to you that you wrote your post in English. No need to thank my country or my ancestors for that, you're welcome! Or perhaps you are of the sort that would prefer the world to speak German?
I shall also point out that Islam seeks power and money, and that I am not sure one would find either in any of the "countries" you listed.
Yes, let's call a spade a spade. China, one of the worst human rights violators on Earth, if not the worst, is our enemy. Just because we trade with them does not make them our friend, nor our frienemy.
In terms of human rights violations, are we that much better when we fund the horrible working conditions to get our electronics at a cheap price?
"We" do not. Corporations do. Corporations only exist to convert resources into profits. Corporations do not care about such petty things like "human rights". Do not confuse human beings with corporations in the future.
And mods - with all the wonderful, colorful buzzwords up there, how has the parent avoided a troll modifier?
Help! Someone with mod points help me please! Won't you please mod the people that disagree with me down? That will teach them good. And mods - with all the wonderful, colorful buzzwords up there, how has the parent avoided a troll modifier?
Ahh requesting that I am modded troll for trying to enlighten the hippies that the world doesn't run on hugs. Hrm.
Actually, far from the enemy, China is the chief lender of money that keeps the US afloat. China is so tied to us economically the threat of them becoming our "enemy" is laughable.
This lending you speak of is the problem that got us where we are. Money lenders are villains, and borrowing is a disease that has infected the masses.
If they truly wanted to beat the US, all they would need to do is stop loaning the US money and cash in all of their debts to the US. But seeing they own a huge chunk of the US already, it is in their best economic interests to make sure the US is doing okay.
I think they do truly want to beat us, and I think lending us money was the first step on the path to defeating us. They could use the debt as puppet string to cause us to move how they want.
And lighten up Francis - pointing out that the US is good at propaganda (duh) does not make one a "hippie". Do you really think the US isn't good a propaganda, or do you have a quota of people you need to call "hippies" every day? Or do you just think anyone to the left of Glenn Beck is an "ultra-liberal"?
Hippies are notorious enemy sympathizers. I'm too lazy to google a huge list of well known hippy enemy sympathizers for you, especially hippies from the Cold War era. The word "hippy" is shorter and easier to write out than "enemy sympathizer". Honestly, I just don't like liberals, period. Those of you that attempt to garner sympathy and empathy from me to share with my enemies, well, you are my enemies as well.
China is directing the single largest, most intensive foreign intelligence gathering effort since the Cold War against the United States....
http://www.securityweek.com/chinas-cyber-threat-growing
Or could it be that US is using this as an excuse to take even more control over the Internet?
This is nothing new. I remember reading about such things in the 90's. US is good with propaganda, including entertainment and everything. Just see cold war.
Or could it be that the world really isn't actually filled with hippies like you that think "free love" magically solves all of our problems, and is some kind of fairy dust that you just sprinkle on oppressive totalitarians to infect them with patchouli stink fantasy?
The problem with ultra liberals like yourself is that you seem to think everyone wants to be your friend. The reality is that they don't. Many of them just want to steal/copy your success, or learn how to prevent you from obtaining it.
It would be really nice if China shut down the US internet grid. Even if it was just for a few minutes. I say it would be nice, because I am always amused by the rhetoric spewed by the defender of my enemies.
Yes, let's call a spade a spade. China, one of the worst human rights violators on Earth, if not the worst, is our enemy. Just because we trade with them does not make them our friend, nor our frienemy.
I don't find holding a book very comfortable. And saying "books in our hands for hundreds of years" is just plain wrong AND not to mention completely meaningless.
I know you are trolling, but I have a response: I read a lot. In fact, I have very little reading downtime throughout the day. Whether it be email, IM, magazine, SMS, and you know... books.
I can easily say that I find reading a book the most comfortable form to read from. There really is no beating ambient light for comfortable reading. Back-light and e-ink technology have a lot of advancements to make before they compare to simple paper and ink (purely from a reading comfort point of view).
saying "books in our hands for hundreds of years" is just plain wrong AND not to mention completely meaningless
Citation needed. Clarification needed. Is English plain wrong AND completely meaningless?
I would certainly find an instantaneous thought translator/communicator more useful and efficient, but we puny humans currently lack such fanciful technology. As such, I must make do with my slow speed of spoken or written communication to share ideas with my fellow man.
Currently playing:
Fallout 3
Bad Company 2
Borderlands
AvP
All at 1920x1080 with high detail textures etc.
Wonko thank you immensely for introducing me to Tom Baugh!!!
and that is because as soon as Xerox does something different Apple tends to copycat.
FTFY
PS) Thank the Lords of Kobol that Palm, HTC, Motorola, etc have been choosing to not copycat Apple!
Amen, brother.
on the windows?
Hey Mr. Commodore, I agree with your sarcasm 100%. As I also appreciate your point of view; I am wondering what your answer to the following questions would be:
At which point is it socially acceptable to take up arms and execute said tyrants? Or perhaps even just to take up arms and mobilize citizens with the intent to do so?
I'm desperately trying to find a legitimate, reasonable, logical answer to this question. Mainly because I see no reason to defend the right to bear arms unless we actually exercise it when we need to.
I own many firearms. I feel my leaders are tyrants. I want desperately to remove them from power, and to simultaneously put the fear of death into the hearts of other would be tyrants. Honestly, I'm just scared to be the only person with the testicular fortitude to actually bear arms against these people I personally consider tyrants.
Cuz you know, the flip phones already stole his TOS communicator design (patents?). Blatantly.
I suppose this strangely named college kid has never even heard of Gene Roddenberry.
I honestly loathe the idea that life is being measured in "content."
Call it what you want; I don't call it faith. I don't have the arrogance of ignorance to assert that whatever notion I previously held is more right than the consensus of people who know better than I do.
The keys for science are qualifications, consensus, and multiple converging lines of evidence. The deniers do have consensus, but they don't have qualifications or multiple lines of evidence. If you want to equate science with religion, that's interesting, but it's not how I see it.
Your opinion is that I'm ignorant. A baseless accusation on your part. Your other opinion is that I'm arrogant; when it's you that are quick to hurl insults. Usually when you can't defend your position with anything but insults and condescension, it implies your position is very weak.
I don't know how pretty much all advanced science reaches its conclusions, but I'm not going to deny it.
I am equating your faith in science with religious faith in God. It's the same. What you fail to realize is that all good science must stand up to the challenge of the skeptics, period. Otherwise it's not science. Period.
I would guess one reason this is such an issue, is that people like you resort to baseless accusations and insults instead of clear-headed explanations and tangible evidence. You don't ask any questions, because your faith has provided you with all the answers.
Good luck with that!
(Assuming your facts are right.)
Not my facts. Blame the World Book Encyclopedia where I looked it up.
It's not a problem that you don't know why 5% would be significant. The problem is that you have apparently decided that your ignorance outweighs the informed conclusions of scientists in a position to know.
So, the simple fact that I have omitted listing every article, author, magazine, and book to show where where I've been to come to these conclusions means that mine are not informed and that I'm ignorant? Also, I haven't made any "decisions", I've just formed opinions based on what I've been taught and what I've read.
Yeah, dude, I also have no idea why 5% is such a big deal.
Cool.
But I'm not a climate scientist, and I'm not going to sit around trying to say that my lack of knowing means there is nothing to know.
Uhm? I'm not sure what relevance this statement has to the current discussion, other than the words "climate scientist" out of context.
I don't know how pretty much all advanced science reaches its conclusions, but I'm not going to deny it.
Here we finally get to your real point. Science is your religion. You have blind faith in science. How unfortunate for you that true science must support its own weight under the scrutiny and skepticism of the world.
It's weird how people think they can add to a debate with experts while being absolute non-experts themselves.
Tell me, can you apply some of your good old common-sense reasoning to the search for the Higgs boson? How about helping out with the search for the proof of the Riemann Hypothesis? At the very least, you should be able to look over the existing efforts and put forth some of your "just can't see" wisdom to filter out the dead-end proofs.
If you can't apply your aw-shucks logic to these problems, then why do you think climate science is any different?
What's even weirder is when I add an anecdote about why none of this matters much to me personally, and someone has to be fully condescending to me while simultaneously adding nothing to the conversation.
I'm not a visual artist or painter, but I still know the fucking sky is blue.
Just like I'm not a "climatologist" or a "statistician", or fuck.. I'm not even a real scientist, but I can still make the claim that I enjoy the weather where I live. I have also read enough about the geological history of my region to make the claim that 10,000 years ago it was covered entirely by glacier, and due to global warming, today it is not.
The last thing I would like to respond to is your "can't see" comment. All of the CO2 in the atmosphere == 100%. You cannot blame a tiny fraction (5%) for the effects caused by the whole. So, again, at this time I am unable to follow the logic about how 5% becomes 100%. Would you be willing to explain that or give me a citation?
Global warming denial is like creationism, it's based on blind faith and its supporters will never give up.
No it's not, it's based on other research that says man's contribution to a natural process is mostly insignificant.
I wouldn't call myself a "warmer", but I also don't know how encyclopedias can print as fact that 95% of CO2 in the atmosphere comes directly from volcanos, rain, and plant matter decay.
If the entire remaining 5% is strictly from man, I just can't see that being a significant contributor to the speeding of this natural process.
Finally, I always like to mention to the AGW folks that 10,000 years ago the place where I live was completely covered by a glacier. I'm very glad for global warming, because where I live is now a beautiful region inhabited by a multitude of species both migratory and permanent.
I'm sorry, I had no idea the little meters had any effect on the signal. I though they were, you know, just for metering.
So dry ice in a plastic soda bottle constitutes a "bomb" these days? I mean, I suppose you could "put an eye out" with it, but it's not really what I would call a "bomb". Are the police just stupid, or is the prosecuting attorney delving into hyperbole?
When I was 13yo I had a friend in middle school that had recently returned from an out of state 4th of July vacation, and came home with a ton of illegal-in-my-state fireworks. I convinced him that it would be a great idea to bring a backpack full to school so we should shoot them off.
Suffice to say that he did bring them, and we skipped the last class of the day and ventured out to the track and field long jump pit. Then, in a blaze of glory we lit off a backpack full of m-80's, black-cats, whistlers, smoke bombs, etc. Just about the time our hearing was returning, we noticed that all 4 grade level principals were rushing us.
At the end of the day, we were yelled at by 4 school principals, 1 school superintendent, 1 county sheriff, 1 deputy sheriff, 4 city police officers, the city bomb squad, the county SWAT unit, the fire chief, the paramedics, and last but not least our parents. I had to pay $400 to sit through a 6hour juvenile delinquent rehab seminar.
The best part is that my poor friend cried the whole time, while I laughed almost hysterically. Now, I told you that story so I could tell you this story: when I my father was 13yo, his neighbor had a son the same age, and they would often go hunting and fishing, and exploring together. The neighbor would often give his son and my father a crate of dynamite and simply tell them "you boys be careful, now!"
The think-of-the-kids mentality is almost solely responsible for this pussification of the USA. Won't someone think of the adults!?!?