I think there's a strange irony in the fact that the ruling is expected in Word 6.0 format (also Adobe Acrobat for those of you who believe in true portability).
On another note, I talked with an MSDrone recently who said divestiture is fine with them since it will make Bill Gates the head of three powerful companies instead of one. I didn't have the heart to tell him that that's not how it works. I sense that there is quite a bit of denial flowing through the Redmond campus... --
With things like mod_perl and such, the speed at which you application executes is secondary to its maintainability. Development time is FAR more costly than a fast server. Perl requires no compiler (you know what I mean), there is a large user base and it's pretty easy (and fun) to learn. --
Quantum Linux Laboratories serves the same purpose for the Seattle and the greater Puget Sound area. We've had quite a bit of success getting Linux into large companies dominated by Microsoft like Boeing Aerospace because it is clearly a superior testing and "glue" platform. Companies like Boeing have many different platforms and a large base of Unix literacy. The biggest lesson we have learned is that, to a point, it's not what you know but who you know. Once Linux is in an enterprise, it tends to grow in terms of usage and install base. --
I understand the argument that this coke machine sensor can easily be defeated and that this is a dumb idea in general. I hate to tell you this, but it's already being done on a slower scale based on a number of factors, the main ones being inflation and people's willingness to pay. Before I moved out to Washington, the coke prices in Connecticut were like $0.75 per can. No big deal you say? This was in 1986. God only knows what they are now. Even now in Washington, a Coke and a smile is about $.50 (unless you're at a public event or a Ferry). The reason they could get away with this is on the East Coast is because that's what people would pay. Hacks aside, this concept will not work simply because people won't accept prices changing that fast. They prefer incremental price increases that keep pace with INFLATION, not the TEMPERATURE!!!!
The real issue is how much the commercial world can pull on Linus's reins. These capabilities should be in Linux but only if it makes sense. If Linus evaluates them and they agree with his overall vision for the Linux kernel, then by all means, they should be included. If he incorporates them because he fears a code fork, he sends the message that he can be manipluated by some large entity. I look forward to seeing how this turns out. --
USWEST ADSL also lets you use your phone line for voice while you're using it for data. This is nothing new. AND it comes in at 256K (although I regularly get more than that) AND it's $50 per month (including ISP charges)... --
Analysis? Lets be honest here, many companies are adopting Linux to cover their bases. They are big enough that they can afford to write their efforts off if this "linux thing" fails. The upside is that there are people in these companies (even Microsoft) who really believe in the potential of Linux. They probably got begrudging approval from their superiors, who are afraid to let their company fall behind, and are running with it. I have it on good authority that most of Microsoft Office is already ported to Linux, not because of some corporate decision but because the developers thought they could do it. The corporate big wigs at Microsoft aren't ready to jump on the Linux bandwagon because they still think they can beat it. Besides, my guess is that Microsoft has a stream of money going into Gartner through several layers of corporate abstraction that would rival Whitewater.
Right now, Microsoft and the rest of the world are through ignoring Linux, and they're in the ridiculing stage. Soon they will begin fighting it head on (Readers note: get a thick skin, it's gonna hurt, but it won't kill us!). I only see this as an important step in the progression of Linux into the mainstream. Soon Microsoft will be shelling out more and more money so that "objective" analysts can give their "honest" opinion of why Linux simply isn't that great. Then you'll see Microsoft attack Linux directly. This should be seen as the beginning of the end of Microsoft's dominance.
I am honored to participate in a force so strong that it has prompted the richest software corporation in the world to pull out their dirtiest tricks to combat. There was a time when I had doubts about the future of Linux. Once Microsoft noticed it, my doubts were forever erased.
-- Quantum Linux Laboratories - Accelerating Business with Linux
Is it necessary to discuss this 9,000,000,000 times? This topic is getting REALLY OLD! Wouldn't a headline like: "Microsoft caught using Mac's to create their quarterly report" be much more interesting? -- Quantum Linux Laboratories - Accelerating Business with Linux
The last paragraph of that article seemed to go downhill in terms of writing quality. Also, since when is creating a few new HTML tags groundbreaking technology? Kind of reminds me of when my sister learned to write simple programs in LOGO. My parents doted all over her. Never mind the fact that I was teaching my teachers how to use their computers at the age of 9. I understand getting excited over new technology, but give me a break, Microsoft has yet to come out with anything new. And they've done a mediocre job improving the existing technology. Lets be honest folks the only reason people are getting excited is because 25 million dollar~1 are changing hands. -- Quantum Linux Laboratories - Accelerating Business with Linux
Assuming you think it looks good... NSI still gets a cut of every domain registration. Presumably it's their compensation for running the root server. Personally, I think its a load of crapola. It's about time a non profit agancy/company like ICANN too over the whole root server scenario and made the system fair for all of the registrars... -- Quantum Linux Laboratories Accelerating Business with Linux * Education * Enterprise Integration * Support
13 year old girls should be out playing with their dolls, not being manipulated by old men. I just hope this whole event is focused on Naughton and not the internet. The internet is a medium, it is people with bad intentions who do bad stuff in that medium. The rest of us are not children and we would thank the law makers to recognize that the problem is the people who break the laws and not the medium that allows them to do it. Most of us are responsible. Please live with the fact that you cannot catch them all and cracking down on the medium is only going to hurt the larger population without affecting the bad guys one bit.
If you replace the internet with any other medium for doing bad you get the same thing. Guns can kill people, the internet can proliferate violence against children (and adults), knives can be used to kill, etc etc etc. Taking away the internet (or heavily regulating it) will not stop the child molesters, it will simply force them into another medium. We have to accept that bad things will happen and in a free society you can't stop EVERYONE. The only way to stop everyone is to take away all freedoms. If there is freedom, someone, somewhere is going to take advantage of it and use it for their own personal gain. This is why we have law enforcement. They will never end crime all together, they are simply there to keep things peaceful.
We must accept our freedom with two caveats:
1. We must defend it.
Politicians are on the front lines and get a lot of messages coming from many directions. Victims are justified in lobbying for tougher penalties and stricter regulation. However the politicians need to hear our side of the story to remind them that although we agree and deeply sympathize(SP?) with the victims, it is the criminals who broke the law and not the medium they broke it in. This is why Rob started "Your Rights Online".
2. There will always be people who will break the law.
Accept the fact that there will always be someone who is going to break the laws for their own personal gain (or some other twisted reason the shrinks can sort out later). In fact, being able to break the laws is an important "right" in itself. Civil disobedience is an important driver for social and political change. When stealing a small item at a convenience store results in the death penalty, the price of civil disobedience will simply be too high and that "right" will effectively go away. The best defense is to be vigilant and defend yourself when necessary. You could defend yourself as easily as calling 911 or in an extreme sense with a gun.
Why not get rid of politicians ability to vote in new laws. The only power they would have would be to introduce new bills. The people would vote on them (and introduce them if the idea has enough support). I can hear it now: "How would we get the people to vote on laws, where would they find the time to research these laws and go out and vote on them".
To get people to vote on laws, you could offer a 10 percent tax break on their income tax, or give them some sort of sales tax waiver certificate. If they don't vote for a period of time, then they would get something like a 60% income tax penalty. This would be refunded in increments if they start voting again. Of course some people with limited intelligence or other hardships could get waivers.
The bills would have to be greatly simplified for this to work. They would have to be written in the same technical jargon to avoid loopholes due to wording issues. However they would have to be reduceable (SP?) to four or five bulleted items that anyone with a sixth grade education could understand.
The bills would have to be easy to vote on. An electronic method might be the cheapest and best way, however it might be too prone to fraud. This is something that would have to be worked out. The main requirements would be that it would have to be easy, it would have to be done in the home or somewhere else convenient, it would have to be secure and it would have to be cheap.
This is something that would be hard to do at first, but would eventually work its way into American culture and people would get used to it (especially if you didn't have to pay over $1000 in sales tax on a new car!!!). There are also a lot of details that still need to be worked out, but I think it would distribute the power a bit more so that the politicians cannot pull this back room crap they are doing now.
We forget too easily that politicians are there to serve us, not themselves or their interests. The only advantage there should be to serving in office is in the joy they get from serving the people who elected them there. I personally have a lot to hide, and almost none of it is illegal, immoral or fattening. My bank account numbers, pin numbers, passwords, secrets friends have told me and on and on. Just because the government wants to know that information, does not give them a right to that information!
Stop posting as an AC if you really believe in what you are saying. Please quote for me where he implies that he is coming up with something new, other than the proof that shadow syndromes exist. He only proved that shadow syndromes actually exist.
And by the way, I don't care what you have or don't have, contrary to what you believe it does not make you special or better (or worse) than anyone else.
I am constantly amazed at how the best and brightest are always attracted to Linux. Linux seems to be a results oriented phenonenah (SP?) rather than a "you won't believe what we have coming out soon" kind of thing. Every day I find another good reason to give MS the finger:-) Today is no exception...
Actually he never implied he discovered Autism or turned it into a fad. He talks about validating a theory that had little if any evidence for or against it. It is called research. He was doing research into the larger spectrum of Autism, or as you call it "Asperger's Syndrome". What he discovered is that there are fringe elements of Autism that show up in people who have the classic symptoms of being "Geeky".
There is a lot to do, discover and create in this world and it takes all types to get it done. An article like this re-validates the fact that all types of people are necessary to move this world forward. It made me feel better knowing that it is virtually impossible for a perfect person to exist and that there is something wrong (and very right) with all of us.
Because parts and time cost money. Most mechanics do not work for free neither do most parts. Programmers however love to work for free as long as they are getting the proper recognition...
People please don't try to fit a square peg into a round hole. ESR is not advocating OSS for EVERYTHING. There is a time for OSS and there is a time for CSS. It is a strategic business decision that can result in some amazing synergies. If it is just you and one other competitor, you are correct, OSS'ing your software probably won't help you unless your competitor agrees to develop it further as well. A larger audience attracts more developers which attracts more innovation free of charge. The business decision in that case is to decide how much that free innovation is worth to you. Original development costs are sunk, you can't get them back. OSS will help you get some free innovation. Consider it interest on your original development money...
OSS is a major conceptual shift, one that many can't immediately grasp. Don't give up, you will benefit from understanding it.
Yep, the benefit is that, if you audience is large engouh, the competitors will be able to make beneficial changes to it that you wouldn't have made that you will also be privy to free of charge (unless you messed up when you designed your license and didn't GPL it so your competitors can close it on you).
Don't try to fit a square peg into a round hole. ESR is not advocating OSS for EVERYTHING. There is a time for OSS and there is a time for CSS. It is a strategic business decision that can result in some amazing synergies. If it is just you and one other competitor, you are correct, OSS'ing your software probably won't help you unless your competitor agrees to develop it further as well. A larger audience attracts more developers which attracts more innovation free of charge. The business decision in that case is to decide how much that free innovation is worth to you. You are right about your development costs, they are sunk, you can't get them back. OSS will help you get some free innovation. Consider it interest on your original development money...
Please remember that Seti@Home is only one of many distributed projects. Check out www.mersenne.org. The gimps project may have found a megaprime (We are double checking at this time), which if you recall, is worth $50,000 from the EFF (Not to mention a plug in the Guinness book of worlds records for finding the 38th Mersenne prime). Also, word is that Seti@Home is running out of data and is sending the same stuff to participants over and over again...
The exact same article is on the front page of the "Puget Sound computer user". In fact I haven't gotten PSCU for months and just decided to pick up a copy on my lunch break. What an amazing coincidence.
Seems like anyone can run a few scripts and get famous. I got busted for cracking 4 years ago, 'cept I wasn't using someone elses tools. It isn't as glamorous as one would think. I'm having much more fun maintaining and building the world I live in rather than trying to take it down...
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I think there's a strange irony in the fact that the ruling is expected in Word 6.0 format (also Adobe Acrobat for those of you who believe in true portability).
On another note, I talked with an MSDrone recently who said divestiture is fine with them since it will make Bill Gates the head of three powerful companies instead of one. I didn't have the heart to tell him that that's not how it works. I sense that there is quite a bit of denial flowing through the Redmond campus...
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With things like mod_perl and such, the speed at which you application executes is secondary to its maintainability. Development time is FAR more costly than a fast server. Perl requires no compiler (you know what I mean), there is a large user base and it's pretty easy (and fun) to learn.
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Who do you use for your Linux training and consulting?
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Quantum Linux Laboratories serves the same purpose for the Seattle and the greater Puget Sound area. We've had quite a bit of success getting Linux into large companies dominated by Microsoft like Boeing Aerospace because it is clearly a superior testing and "glue" platform. Companies like Boeing have many different platforms and a large base of Unix literacy. The biggest lesson we have learned is that, to a point, it's not what you know but who you know. Once Linux is in an enterprise, it tends to grow in terms of usage and install base.
--
I understand the argument that this coke machine sensor can easily be defeated and that this is a dumb idea in general. I hate to tell you this, but it's already being done on a slower scale based on a number of factors, the main ones being inflation and people's willingness to pay. Before I moved out to Washington, the coke prices in Connecticut were like $0.75 per can. No big deal you say? This was in 1986. God only knows what they are now. Even now in Washington, a Coke and a smile is about $.50 (unless you're at a public event or a Ferry). The reason they could get away with this is on the East Coast is because that's what people would pay. Hacks aside, this concept will not work simply because people won't accept prices changing that fast. They prefer incremental price increases that keep pace with INFLATION, not the TEMPERATURE!!!!
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The real issue is how much the commercial world can pull on Linus's reins. These capabilities should be in Linux but only if it makes sense. If Linus evaluates them and they agree with his overall vision for the Linux kernel, then by all means, they should be included. If he incorporates them because he fears a code fork, he sends the message that he can be manipluated by some large entity. I look forward to seeing how this turns out.
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USWEST ADSL also lets you use your phone line for voice while you're using it for data. This is nothing new. AND it comes in at 256K (although I regularly get more than that) AND it's $50 per month (including ISP charges)...
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Right now, Microsoft and the rest of the world are through ignoring Linux, and they're in the ridiculing stage. Soon they will begin fighting it head on (Readers note: get a thick skin, it's gonna hurt, but it won't kill us!). I only see this as an important step in the progression of Linux into the mainstream. Soon Microsoft will be shelling out more and more money so that "objective" analysts can give their "honest" opinion of why Linux simply isn't that great. Then you'll see Microsoft attack Linux directly. This should be seen as the beginning of the end of Microsoft's dominance.
I am honored to participate in a force so strong that it has prompted the richest software corporation in the world to pull out their dirtiest tricks to combat. There was a time when I had doubts about the future of Linux. Once Microsoft noticed it, my doubts were forever erased.
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Quantum Linux Laboratories - Accelerating Business with Linux
* Education
* Enterprise Integration
* Support
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Quantum Linux Laboratories - Accelerating Business with Linux
* Education
* Enterprise Integration
* Support
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Quantum Linux Laboratories - Accelerating Business with Linux
* Education
* Enterprise Integration
* Support
Flamebait???? I'm confused. Since when is accusing Microsoft of embracing, extending and extinguishing, known as flamebait????????? Please explain...
-Chuck
Assuming you think it looks good... NSI still gets a cut of every domain registration. Presumably it's their compensation for running the root server. Personally, I think its a load of crapola. It's about time a non profit agancy/company like ICANN too over the whole root server scenario and made the system fair for all of the registrars...
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Quantum Linux Laboratories
Accelerating Business with Linux
* Education
* Enterprise Integration
* Support
13 year old girls should be out playing with their dolls, not being manipulated by old men. I just hope this whole event is focused on Naughton and not the internet. The internet is a medium, it is people with bad intentions who do bad stuff in that medium. The rest of us are not children and we would thank the law makers to recognize that the problem is the people who break the laws and not the medium that allows them to do it. Most of us are responsible. Please live with the fact that you cannot catch them all and cracking down on the medium is only going to hurt the larger population without affecting the bad guys one bit.
If you replace the internet with any other medium for doing bad you get the same thing. Guns can kill people, the internet can proliferate violence against children (and adults), knives can be used to kill, etc etc etc. Taking away the internet (or heavily regulating it) will not stop the child molesters, it will simply force them into another medium. We have to accept that bad things will happen and in a free society you can't stop EVERYONE. The only way to stop everyone is to take away all freedoms. If there is freedom, someone, somewhere is going to take advantage of it and use it for their own personal gain. This is why we have law enforcement. They will never end crime all together, they are simply there to keep things peaceful.
We must accept our freedom with two caveats:
1. We must defend it.
Politicians are on the front lines and get a lot of messages coming from many directions. Victims are justified in lobbying for tougher penalties and stricter regulation. However the politicians need to hear our side of the story to remind them that although we agree and deeply sympathize(SP?) with the victims, it is the criminals who broke the law and not the medium they broke it in. This is why Rob started "Your Rights Online".
2. There will always be people who will break the law.
Accept the fact that there will always be someone who is going to break the laws for their own personal gain (or some other twisted reason the shrinks can sort out later). In fact, being able to break the laws is an important "right" in itself. Civil disobedience is an important driver for social and political change. When stealing a small item at a convenience store results in the death penalty, the price of civil disobedience will simply be too high and that "right" will effectively go away. The best defense is to be vigilant and defend yourself when necessary. You could defend yourself as easily as calling 911 or in an extreme sense with a gun.
Thank you for your time.
-Chuck
Why not get rid of politicians ability to vote in new laws. The only power they would have would be to introduce new bills. The people would vote on them (and introduce them if the idea has enough support). I can hear it now: "How would we get the people to vote on laws, where would they find the time to research these laws and go out and vote on them".
To get people to vote on laws, you could offer a 10 percent tax break on their income tax, or give them some sort of sales tax waiver certificate. If they don't vote for a period of time, then they would get something like a 60% income tax penalty. This would be refunded in increments if they start voting again. Of course some people with limited intelligence or other hardships could get waivers.
The bills would have to be greatly simplified for this to work. They would have to be written in the same technical jargon to avoid loopholes due to wording issues. However they would have to be reduceable (SP?) to four or five bulleted items that anyone with a sixth grade education could understand.
The bills would have to be easy to vote on. An electronic method might be the cheapest and best way, however it might be too prone to fraud. This is something that would have to be worked out. The main requirements would be that it would have to be easy, it would have to be done in the home or somewhere else convenient, it would have to be secure and it would have to be cheap.
This is something that would be hard to do at first, but would eventually work its way into American culture and people would get used to it (especially if you didn't have to pay over $1000 in sales tax on a new car!!!). There are also a lot of details that still need to be worked out, but I think it would distribute the power a bit more so that the politicians cannot pull this back room crap they are doing now.
What are your thoughts on this???
We forget too easily that politicians are there to serve us, not themselves or their interests. The only advantage there should be to serving in office is in the joy they get from serving the people who elected them there. I personally have a lot to hide, and almost none of it is illegal, immoral or fattening. My bank account numbers, pin numbers, passwords, secrets friends have told me and on and on. Just because the government wants to know that information, does not give them a right to that information!
Stop posting as an AC if you really believe in what you are saying. Please quote for me where he implies that he is coming up with something new, other than the proof that shadow syndromes exist. He only proved that shadow syndromes actually exist.
And by the way, I don't care what you have or don't have, contrary to what you believe it does not make you special or better (or worse) than anyone else.
I am constantly amazed at how the best and brightest are always attracted to Linux. Linux seems to be a results oriented phenonenah (SP?) rather than a "you won't believe what we have coming out soon" kind of thing. Every day I find another good reason to give MS the finger :-) Today is no exception...
Actually he never implied he discovered Autism or turned it into a fad. He talks about validating a theory that had little if any evidence for or against it. It is called research. He was doing research into the larger spectrum of Autism, or as you call it "Asperger's Syndrome". What he discovered is that there are fringe elements of Autism that show up in people who have the classic symptoms of being "Geeky".
-Chuck
There is a lot to do, discover and create in this world and it takes all types to get it done. An article like this re-validates the fact that all types of people are necessary to move this world forward. It made me feel better knowing that it is virtually impossible for a perfect person to exist and that there is something wrong (and very right) with all of us.
-Chuck
Because parts and time cost money. Most mechanics do not work for free neither do most parts. Programmers however love to work for free as long as they are getting the proper recognition...
People please don't try to fit a square peg into a round hole. ESR is not advocating OSS for EVERYTHING. There is a time for OSS and there is a time for CSS. It is a strategic business decision that can result in some amazing synergies. If it is just you and one other competitor, you are correct, OSS'ing your software probably won't help you unless your competitor agrees to develop it further as well. A larger audience attracts more developers which attracts more innovation free of charge. The business decision in that case is to decide how much that free innovation is worth to you. Original development costs are sunk, you can't get them back. OSS will help you get some free innovation. Consider it interest on your original development money...
OSS is a major conceptual shift, one that many can't immediately grasp. Don't give up, you will benefit from understanding it.
-Chuck
Yep, the benefit is that, if you audience is large engouh, the competitors will be able to make beneficial changes to it that you wouldn't have made that you will also be privy to free of charge (unless you messed up when you designed your license and didn't GPL it so your competitors can close it on you).
Don't try to fit a square peg into a round hole. ESR is not advocating OSS for EVERYTHING. There is a time for OSS and there is a time for CSS. It is a strategic business decision that can result in some amazing synergies. If it is just you and one other competitor, you are correct, OSS'ing your software probably won't help you unless your competitor agrees to develop it further as well. A larger audience attracts more developers which attracts more innovation free of charge. The business decision in that case is to decide how much that free innovation is worth to you. You are right about your development costs, they are sunk, you can't get them back. OSS will help you get some free innovation. Consider it interest on your original development money...
-Chuck
Please remember that Seti@Home is only one of many distributed projects. Check out www.mersenne.org. The gimps project may have found a megaprime (We are double checking at this time), which if you recall, is worth $50,000 from the EFF (Not to mention a plug in the Guinness book of worlds records for finding the 38th Mersenne prime). Also, word is that Seti@Home is running out of data and is sending the same stuff to participants over and over again...
The exact same article is on the front page of the "Puget Sound computer user". In fact I haven't gotten PSCU for months and just decided to pick up a copy on my lunch break. What an amazing coincidence.
Seems like anyone can run a few scripts and get famous. I got busted for cracking 4 years ago, 'cept I wasn't using someone elses tools. It isn't as glamorous as one would think. I'm having much more fun maintaining and building the world I live in rather than trying to take it down...