Agreed. IQ on its own is not a reliable indicator of "success", anyone with a social sciences background or has read an Intro Psychology textbook can tell you that.
Citation needed...
Curious why the GP would challenge that assertion and request citation without providing citations for their own assertion, specifically that IQ is an indicator of real-world performance. Come on, this is the internet. We've all got access to the same Google (mostly). Citations are for papers.
Seriously now, "IQ" isn't a measure of anything real. It is an arbitrary number that is generated by an individuals performance on a series of abstract tests. Historically, it comes from the study of childhood intelligence. Back in the day it was calculated by dividing the child's estimated mental age by their actual age. Now it is done by comparing an individuals performance on these abstract tests with the populations performance. The process is more scientific now, but who knows what it really means.
Determining a single rating of intelligence is attractive for a lot of reasons, and modern tests do produce these beautifully normal distributions, but nobody really knows what they measure. "Intelligence" is an incredibly complex and ill defined concept, as is the definition of "real world success". Using IQ alone as a predictor of success is ridiculous. Its really nice in theory, but grossly incomplete.
True, but the WAIS tests are typically considered very reliable IQ tests. This company is using their own test, claiming it is an IQ test. If this test was developed within the company, it is very probably biased toward the industry and company culture. People on the "inside" probably score quiet highly on that test, they know all the right lingo and are more familiar with the problems that company faces. Personally, I would be surprised if this test produced anything close to a normal distribution.
The paint that is still in good condition is gathered at a paint exchange and given away for free. This system really improves lives in more ways than just environmental.
This being Slashdot I feel compelled to say something about the privacy concerns of reused electronic devices...
But otherwise it would seem that your system is wonderful. Leftovers that I consider waste being reused inexpensively by someone else? That's fantastic. I live in the US, my city has what they call "Single Stream Recycling". As far as I can tell, that just means we put all of our trash and recycling into the same trash bins and it all gets hauled to the landfill together. Convenient for sure, but nowhere near as socially useful as your system.
they are a developing country. how are they supposed to have the same standards as the rest of the developed world? remember the west went through the same dirty as fuck industrial stage 100 years ago.
Well, yeah. The west did go through that stage, and it is pretty clear how dangerous and stupid it would be to allow developing countries to make the same stupid mistakes. Especially considering that the higher populations of these developing will be demanding vastly more goods during their dirty industrial stage than did the west during ours.
oh and the whole landfills are full is just bullshit. guess why they are full? because governments refuse to build new ones. ergo, they fill up... there's plenty of land to build land fills.
So your solution is just be to build more landfills? That doesn't solve the problem. In fact, that spreads the problem. As a global society we produce entirely too much waste. And yes, the west is mostly to blame with our rampant consumerism and "dirty industrialism", our B. But that does not give developing nations a pass on destroying the environment as well. In fact, it places responsibility on such nations to develop cleaner industrial process, which involve reusing the vast quantities of resources sitting in landfills.
I'm sorry, but I can't really tell if that was a serious paranoid rant or a satirical paranoid rant. Either way though, I am impressed that you managed to like the thermal properties of cities with mammalian extinction, a DSM recognized disorder, and Yahoo News.
Either "bravo" or "loosen up the tinfoil hat dude" are appropriate here. I just can't figure out which to save my life.
In theory, yes. But that's not how it works. Westerners ship over tons of food for the "starving" Africans, who get it for free. Local farmers have nobody to sell their crops to, because most of the people in the area are 1) dirt poor and 2) subsisting on the free aid food. Those farmers then turn to the crops they can get the most money for, which happens to be super cheap corn to feed the Western ethanol/biofuel industry. These farmers make less on corn than what they could make on producing local food crops, and can't support their operations. Everybody loses.
But if you are buying your goods in a store rather than growing them yourself, you know that you do not know where that food item come from. Rationally, you should assume that any food good bought in a story may have unknown long term effects, simply by nature of the fact that you have no knowledge of the process. If there are specific known risks than the producer/seller ethically should alert the buyer, but the buyer must also put some consideration into the source of their food.
BP is not Umbrella Corp. It's the US Coast Guard instituting this, not BP. There is no loss of freedom here, it's not like there is a single long boom running right along the coastline corralling people in, we just can't approach the equipment within 20m without permission.
Well if BP starts going-out and shooting pelicans in the head, rather than rescue them, that might be newsworthy.
I feel like karma will bite me for writing this, but that might be a more humane solution. I've read that by the time a bird has been covered in oil, it has likely ingested more than enough to poison it slowly over the course of days or weeks.
...that might be newsworthy.
Not at the risk of endangering crewmen lives or delaying the containment effort.
In 1948, Truman issued an order desegregating the military. By 1954 (and thanks in no small part to the help of his Republican successor, Dwight Eisenhower) the job was done,
Kind of.
IMO, racial minorities still faced pretty extreme discrimination in the military for decades. Truman also had the benefit of having a huge military that needed trimming anyway, so he had some ability to shape it. By comparison, Obama is trying to effect this change during a time when the military is overextended and arguably understaffed. And the concern now is not just preserving the dignity of those currently oppressed, but assuaging the concerns of the rest of the military (bigoted and offensive as some of those concerns might be).
Plus Truman and Eisenhower both had experience in the military, so they had the benefit of some experience and held some credibility with the troops (Ike certainly). Obama probably not so much.
Its not stupidity though, its simple downright shiftiness! She campaigned ultra right to get through the primary, and is now claiming a more moderate stance for the general election. This is why American politics is broken.
Probably so they can set a single easily understood boundary and prevent any debate about what constitutes "on shore". This is just the CG saying "Stay away from the equipment, seriously. Most construction sites I see are fenced off to prevent anyone from wandering in, this fence is just implied.
Sure, but without the threat of harsher punishments for willful (which I interpret to mean repeated) violations, then there is significantly less of a deterrent. A dude with a camera straying too close to the booms will probably just be shooed away and threatened with fines if they persist. A dedicated pest of a reporter that repeatedly gets up in their business trying to expose "teh Big Oilz Conspiracy!" probably poses a real safety concern, and the Coast Guard needs some way to deal with them.
Could this be abused? Sure. Its a possibility. That happens when you put regular old imperfect people into positions of authority.
This rises some questions about the wisdom of the whole concept of a felon, specifically the "no voting" part. It seems a very convenient way of ensuring that only people who think and act like those in power are allowed to have political influence.
Have to agree with that 100%. The problem is not in determining whether any specific violation is a felony or a misdemeanor. The problem is that the shoddy state of our criminal justice system creates this class of half-citizens that we call "felons", who we allow to reintegrate into our society without the full rights and responsibilities as a real citizen.
Have to agree with the parent. CNN is not terribly affected by this, this is probably more targeted towards the freelancers that rent a fishing boat and try to get out there so they can sell some pictures. Plus, how much new footage do we actually need? The oil is still black, and the pelicans still look really sad. I don't mean to belittle the situation, but by this point I think we as a society have collected enough stock footage of oil spills to last us a few years. This doesn't mean they can't continue reporting on the situation, but do we really need to be collecting any more footage? At this point I am more interested in hearing the progress on capping the leak than I am in seeing more "shocking" footage of oily birds.
With respect to the GP:
Well as CNN explained in the video, the boom is laying everywhere so the 65 foot distance effectively blocks cameramen...
...true. But consider the source. Of course CNN will come out against this. "News agency criticizes policy that restricts camera access. Film at 11."
And we deserve to know because it's OUR country, not BP's country or the government's country.
Thats not the point. The point is that the Coast Guard is enacting a policy meant to prevent nosy amateur seamen from getting their noses too close to oil booms. It does happen to be the Coast Guards responsibility to protect those booms.
Totally unrelated comment, but I grew up around there. Poland Spring (the town) barely even qualifies as a hamlet. The plant is the only thing of note.
My house as a kid was upstream on that aquifer. We used to get it right out of our tap, and now I pay for it to be delivered. It kills me.
Only on Slashdot can someone make a reasonable funny X-Men joke and then be ridiculed for not being nerdy enough understand that the scenario is impossible.
Its MAGNETO. If people's hangup is that "there is no way Magneto could attract aluminum, that would be ridiculous!" then I think we should all take a field trip out of the basement and into some sunlight.
Its a little different, but I get your point. Its funny how people here complain about Federal ID cards, when all Americans have this unique 9 digit identification number that is required apply for a job, apply for credit, make large purchases, and vote (and also serves to identify which state we were born in). That privacy train left the station a long long time ago, so I have only a little sympathy for these Indian Christians
I think Monkeys are absolutely smart enough to know that the two vehicles are different versions of the same beast. Color, size, and shape might be different, but I am sure that they are able to realize the connection. Especially in an environment where it is probably very common for members of their social group to be run down by these noisy rubber footed behemoths.
I wonder if a crow could possibly be using the same underlaying mechanisms as a human: would they fit in its head?
Sure. Human brains also have to have the resources to handle much larger physical bodies, more complex language and behavioral activity, more memory storage (both in quantity and in detail), etc.
That's the risk that anyone runs by being an early adopter of any new tech. I had a similar experience with the Xbox 360 (though MS did man up and extend the original warranty). That is why I waited for a few generations to get a PS3.
Could Sony have done more product testing and developed a more reliable system? Probably. But I doubt they intentionally engineered a defect just to make money on repair services. I think Sony would be much happier if every unit they manufactured performed perfectly for the entire lifespan of the console.
If you want to play games, get a good quad or dual core PC - games are modern, more upto date and if you use Steam client, it really makes it easy to get a game updated and working. In the past PC's suffered from complications and this made games difficult to setup and play, but now graphics cards are much better and the Steam client seems to repair damaged files and update automatically.
That is a very good point. Gaming quality of PC's will always be better. Of course, the tradeoff is that you will be facing shorter upgrade cycles. Every 12-18 months you will be replacing some piece of hardware in the thing, and those costs add up. My $400 Xbox 360 has cost me $0 in upgrade in the last 5 years. My $400 PS3 has cost me nothing in the last year, and will continue to cost me nothing for years to come.
Yeah I think you are right on with regards to the outcome of the format war. They released an ultimate home entertainment gadget that put a Blu-Ray player in 90% of American technogeek living rooms. Looking at their direct competitor, MS put out that crappy HD peripheral drive that put the cost of the completed Xbox 360 system at the same price point as the PS3, with fewer features and poorer graphics. Sony bit the bullet and took a loss on the hardware, and I think that will pay off huge for them.
I picked up a PS3 about 9 months ago, primarily because of the Blu-Ray player. I never owned a PS2 so I don't have a library of PS2 games, but I am aware that there is a huge number of really awesome older games for the PS2. Backwards compatibility would be a wonderful feature for me, and users like me. New PS3 games are expensive, but for $20 I can grab a classic game (or two) from Gamestop.
I always assumed this was reason Sony discontinued backwards compatibility support was to discourage the second-hand market of older titles. Sony doesn't see any of that cash stream, and probably considers those sales to be "lost sales" of new older games. To me that would be a feature. But of course since they're already taken my money for the thing, Sony has no real interest in keeping me happy.
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Agreed. IQ on its own is not a reliable indicator of "success", anyone with a social sciences background or has read an Intro Psychology textbook can tell you that.
Citation needed...
Curious why the GP would challenge that assertion and request citation without providing citations for their own assertion, specifically that IQ is an indicator of real-world performance. Come on, this is the internet. We've all got access to the same Google (mostly). Citations are for papers.
Seriously now, "IQ" isn't a measure of anything real. It is an arbitrary number that is generated by an individuals performance on a series of abstract tests. Historically, it comes from the study of childhood intelligence. Back in the day it was calculated by dividing the child's estimated mental age by their actual age. Now it is done by comparing an individuals performance on these abstract tests with the populations performance. The process is more scientific now, but who knows what it really means.
Determining a single rating of intelligence is attractive for a lot of reasons, and modern tests do produce these beautifully normal distributions, but nobody really knows what they measure. "Intelligence" is an incredibly complex and ill defined concept, as is the definition of "real world success". Using IQ alone as a predictor of success is ridiculous. Its really nice in theory, but grossly incomplete.
True, but the WAIS tests are typically considered very reliable IQ tests. This company is using their own test, claiming it is an IQ test. If this test was developed within the company, it is very probably biased toward the industry and company culture. People on the "inside" probably score quiet highly on that test, they know all the right lingo and are more familiar with the problems that company faces. Personally, I would be surprised if this test produced anything close to a normal distribution.
The paint that is still in good condition is gathered at a paint exchange and given away for free. This system really improves lives in more ways than just environmental.
This being Slashdot I feel compelled to say something about the privacy concerns of reused electronic devices...
But otherwise it would seem that your system is wonderful. Leftovers that I consider waste being reused inexpensively by someone else? That's fantastic. I live in the US, my city has what they call "Single Stream Recycling". As far as I can tell, that just means we put all of our trash and recycling into the same trash bins and it all gets hauled to the landfill together. Convenient for sure, but nowhere near as socially useful as your system.
they are a developing country. how are they supposed to have the same standards as the rest of the developed world? remember the west went through the same dirty as fuck industrial stage 100 years ago.
Well, yeah. The west did go through that stage, and it is pretty clear how dangerous and stupid it would be to allow developing countries to make the same stupid mistakes. Especially considering that the higher populations of these developing will be demanding vastly more goods during their dirty industrial stage than did the west during ours.
oh and the whole landfills are full is just bullshit. guess why they are full? because governments refuse to build new ones. ergo, they fill up... there's plenty of land to build land fills.
So your solution is just be to build more landfills? That doesn't solve the problem. In fact, that spreads the problem. As a global society we produce entirely too much waste. And yes, the west is mostly to blame with our rampant consumerism and "dirty industrialism", our B. But that does not give developing nations a pass on destroying the environment as well. In fact, it places responsibility on such nations to develop cleaner industrial process, which involve reusing the vast quantities of resources sitting in landfills.
I'm sorry, but I can't really tell if that was a serious paranoid rant or a satirical paranoid rant. Either way though, I am impressed that you managed to like the thermal properties of cities with mammalian extinction, a DSM recognized disorder, and Yahoo News.
Either "bravo" or "loosen up the tinfoil hat dude" are appropriate here. I just can't figure out which to save my life.
In theory, yes. But that's not how it works. Westerners ship over tons of food for the "starving" Africans, who get it for free. Local farmers have nobody to sell their crops to, because most of the people in the area are 1) dirt poor and 2) subsisting on the free aid food. Those farmers then turn to the crops they can get the most money for, which happens to be super cheap corn to feed the Western ethanol/biofuel industry. These farmers make less on corn than what they could make on producing local food crops, and can't support their operations. Everybody loses.
But if you are buying your goods in a store rather than growing them yourself, you know that you do not know where that food item come from. Rationally, you should assume that any food good bought in a story may have unknown long term effects, simply by nature of the fact that you have no knowledge of the process. If there are specific known risks than the producer/seller ethically should alert the buyer, but the buyer must also put some consideration into the source of their food.
But we invented it! Al Gore laid the tubes himself! Shouldn't we get to make the rules and get to say who can use it and who can't?
BP is not Umbrella Corp. It's the US Coast Guard instituting this, not BP. There is no loss of freedom here, it's not like there is a single long boom running right along the coastline corralling people in, we just can't approach the equipment within 20m without permission.
Well if BP starts going-out and shooting pelicans in the head, rather than rescue them, that might be newsworthy.
I feel like karma will bite me for writing this, but that might be a more humane solution. I've read that by the time a bird has been covered in oil, it has likely ingested more than enough to poison it slowly over the course of days or weeks.
Not at the risk of endangering crewmen lives or delaying the containment effort.
In 1948, Truman issued an order desegregating the military. By 1954 (and thanks in no small part to the help of his Republican successor, Dwight Eisenhower) the job was done,
Kind of.
IMO, racial minorities still faced pretty extreme discrimination in the military for decades. Truman also had the benefit of having a huge military that needed trimming anyway, so he had some ability to shape it. By comparison, Obama is trying to effect this change during a time when the military is overextended and arguably understaffed. And the concern now is not just preserving the dignity of those currently oppressed, but assuaging the concerns of the rest of the military (bigoted and offensive as some of those concerns might be).
Plus Truman and Eisenhower both had experience in the military, so they had the benefit of some experience and held some credibility with the troops (Ike certainly). Obama probably not so much.
Its not stupidity though, its simple downright shiftiness! She campaigned ultra right to get through the primary, and is now claiming a more moderate stance for the general election. This is why American politics is broken.
Probably so they can set a single easily understood boundary and prevent any debate about what constitutes "on shore". This is just the CG saying "Stay away from the equipment, seriously. Most construction sites I see are fenced off to prevent anyone from wandering in, this fence is just implied.
Sure, but without the threat of harsher punishments for willful (which I interpret to mean repeated) violations, then there is significantly less of a deterrent. A dude with a camera straying too close to the booms will probably just be shooed away and threatened with fines if they persist. A dedicated pest of a reporter that repeatedly gets up in their business trying to expose "teh Big Oilz Conspiracy!" probably poses a real safety concern, and the Coast Guard needs some way to deal with them.
Could this be abused? Sure. Its a possibility. That happens when you put regular old imperfect people into positions of authority.
This rises some questions about the wisdom of the whole concept of a felon, specifically the "no voting" part. It seems a very convenient way of ensuring that only people who think and act like those in power are allowed to have political influence.
Have to agree with that 100%. The problem is not in determining whether any specific violation is a felony or a misdemeanor. The problem is that the shoddy state of our criminal justice system creates this class of half-citizens that we call "felons", who we allow to reintegrate into our society without the full rights and responsibilities as a real citizen.
Have to agree with the parent. CNN is not terribly affected by this, this is probably more targeted towards the freelancers that rent a fishing boat and try to get out there so they can sell some pictures. Plus, how much new footage do we actually need? The oil is still black, and the pelicans still look really sad. I don't mean to belittle the situation, but by this point I think we as a society have collected enough stock footage of oil spills to last us a few years. This doesn't mean they can't continue reporting on the situation, but do we really need to be collecting any more footage? At this point I am more interested in hearing the progress on capping the leak than I am in seeing more "shocking" footage of oily birds.
With respect to the GP:
Well as CNN explained in the video, the boom is laying everywhere so the 65 foot distance effectively blocks cameramen ...
...true. But consider the source. Of course CNN will come out against this. "News agency criticizes policy that restricts camera access. Film at 11."
And we deserve to know because it's OUR country, not BP's country or the government's country.
Thats not the point. The point is that the Coast Guard is enacting a policy meant to prevent nosy amateur seamen from getting their noses too close to oil booms. It does happen to be the Coast Guards responsibility to protect those booms.
Totally unrelated comment, but I grew up around there. Poland Spring (the town) barely even qualifies as a hamlet. The plant is the only thing of note.
My house as a kid was upstream on that aquifer. We used to get it right out of our tap, and now I pay for it to be delivered. It kills me.
Only on Slashdot can someone make a reasonable funny X-Men joke and then be ridiculed for not being nerdy enough understand that the scenario is impossible.
Its MAGNETO. If people's hangup is that "there is no way Magneto could attract aluminum, that would be ridiculous!" then I think we should all take a field trip out of the basement and into some sunlight.
Its a little different, but I get your point. Its funny how people here complain about Federal ID cards, when all Americans have this unique 9 digit identification number that is required apply for a job, apply for credit, make large purchases, and vote (and also serves to identify which state we were born in). That privacy train left the station a long long time ago, so I have only a little sympathy for these Indian Christians
Whose stock price?
Not going to lie, I'm a little surprised to find another Slashdotter that watches Glee.
I think Monkeys are absolutely smart enough to know that the two vehicles are different versions of the same beast. Color, size, and shape might be different, but I am sure that they are able to realize the connection. Especially in an environment where it is probably very common for members of their social group to be run down by these noisy rubber footed behemoths.
I wonder if a crow could possibly be using the same underlaying mechanisms as a human: would they fit in its head?
Sure. Human brains also have to have the resources to handle much larger physical bodies, more complex language and behavioral activity, more memory storage (both in quantity and in detail), etc.
That's the risk that anyone runs by being an early adopter of any new tech. I had a similar experience with the Xbox 360 (though MS did man up and extend the original warranty). That is why I waited for a few generations to get a PS3.
Could Sony have done more product testing and developed a more reliable system? Probably. But I doubt they intentionally engineered a defect just to make money on repair services. I think Sony would be much happier if every unit they manufactured performed perfectly for the entire lifespan of the console.
If you want to play games, get a good quad or dual core PC - games are modern, more upto date and if you use Steam client, it really makes it easy to get a game updated and working. In the past PC's suffered from complications and this made games difficult to setup and play, but now graphics cards are much better and the Steam client seems to repair damaged files and update automatically.
That is a very good point. Gaming quality of PC's will always be better. Of course, the tradeoff is that you will be facing shorter upgrade cycles. Every 12-18 months you will be replacing some piece of hardware in the thing, and those costs add up. My $400 Xbox 360 has cost me $0 in upgrade in the last 5 years. My $400 PS3 has cost me nothing in the last year, and will continue to cost me nothing for years to come.
Yeah I think you are right on with regards to the outcome of the format war. They released an ultimate home entertainment gadget that put a Blu-Ray player in 90% of American technogeek living rooms. Looking at their direct competitor, MS put out that crappy HD peripheral drive that put the cost of the completed Xbox 360 system at the same price point as the PS3, with fewer features and poorer graphics. Sony bit the bullet and took a loss on the hardware, and I think that will pay off huge for them.
I picked up a PS3 about 9 months ago, primarily because of the Blu-Ray player. I never owned a PS2 so I don't have a library of PS2 games, but I am aware that there is a huge number of really awesome older games for the PS2. Backwards compatibility would be a wonderful feature for me, and users like me. New PS3 games are expensive, but for $20 I can grab a classic game (or two) from Gamestop.
I always assumed this was reason Sony discontinued backwards compatibility support was to discourage the second-hand market of older titles. Sony doesn't see any of that cash stream, and probably considers those sales to be "lost sales" of new older games. To me that would be a feature. But of course since they're already taken my money for the thing, Sony has no real interest in keeping me happy.