Obviously, the disinterest in understanding one another's oppinions is blatantly more apparent in your statements, as you cannot prevent yourself from using insults, and other childish means of inadequate message portrayal. The fault of not differentiating your message as something that makes sense lies in your hands.
I am just trying to say, the Cell processor has multiple parts. Its almost like a mini computer. Among these parts is the Processing Unit, which IS the general purpose processor. And it also has these Attached Proccessing Units (APUs) which are highly parralellized piped VECTOR PROCESSORS just like GPUs. There may be a larger instruction set for the GPUs (possibly), but once it gets broken down into microinstructions they all do the EXACT SAME THING. GPUs are not magic, they are specialized hardware no doubt, but the distinction between hardware and software is just silicon.
If it doesn't beat it in a "head to head competition of brute force", then how exactly can they be better suited? They only put the GPU on there to begin with because the existing floating point units and interconnecting buses are far too inadequate to provide the necessary number crunching for modern 3d applications (well, also because video card manufacturers wanted to expand). So why would you still need them, if the Cell processor can do it better.
Additionally, I understand you're trying to say, "Its specialized hardware therefore its faster." Well, its not so specialized when you think about it. The main features of GPUs are basic math operations like dot products, muladds, matrix multiplies, in a very parrallel piped system. They might have other more complex instructions but inside the processor it gets broken down into these basic instructions and parrallelized anyways. So, theoretically the cells APUs do the exact same thing so what exactly is your point?
Those APUs are not geared towards general purpose processing, they are vector processors. Just like those perty GPUs:
Each Cell contains 8 APUs. An APU is a self contained vector processor which acts independently from the others. They contain 128 X 128 bit registers, there are also 4 floating point units capable of 32 GigaFlops and 4 Integer units capable of 32 GOPS (Billions of Operations per Second). The APUs also include a small 128 Kilobyte local memory instead of a cache, there is also no virtual memory system used at runtime.
Additionally, those APUs do the exact same work as a GPU. They both specialize in number crunching, matrix operation, sin, cos, etc. And they both do it in a pipelined highly scaleable way. So whats the difference.
Additionally, I would love to get rid of the friggin' annoying graphics card with GPU on it design. Where you can't even get any kind of standard interface to it without going through their stupid drivers. I would love to have a regular video card (that only lays out pixels on my screen, you know what video cards used to do), just get a computer with a cell processor, and run a nice open source OpenGL implementation on top of that. This idea would scale up as far as they want to take it. Upgrading chips would no longer require new crappy drivers, because the OpenGL layer would be just a normal library not a driver anymore. New kind of effect needed then download the latest MesaGL optimized for Cell, things running too slow then get the newest Cell processor, Video card not high enough resolution upgrade video card. Simple.
Lets just assume for a second that the hype in the previously posted article on cell processors is not as much hype as it is fact. I understand custom hardware will usually perform more quickly than a software only combo. But to the speeds that these Cell processors can attain (remember it all breaks down to the same muladds, dot3s, matrix multiplies, that both of these types of hardware specialize in), about all they would need would be a video buffer and a texel/pixel filler. Keep the rest simple. If you look at it, all these shaders are very general purpose, thats why they have their own languages. The only thing that really breaks them out of requiring a really general purpose language is they require more pipelining than flow control, and apparently chaining sequences of operations together is something that these new cell processors can do like a pro. So whats your point?
I know for a fact that this will have a positive effect for the linux community. People didn't move to Macs because they are more expensive, and there was no justification for the move. Conversely, moving to linux is very plausible, in certain instances, as it can be deployed at a far lower cost than Windows. The use of the Windows version of Evolution can be used as a migration tool by determined IT departments such as mine. But the main pusher will have to be the IT department itself, as they are the ones that have to win over the bean counters, because the bean counters don't know jack shit about this kind of thing.
Exactly so here is my method to solve this problem: * Buy wireless AP and a linux box with 2 NICs * Hook one NIC to your network the other NIC to the wireless AP * Download and install OpenVPN on your linux box * Setup iptables to DROP all packets being forwarded from the outside NIC to the inside and vice versa:
# Assuming: # * eth0 is the outside NIC # * eth1 is the inside NIC # * Default iptables policy is ALLOW # * Your linux kernel supports iptables, # and routing iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -j DROP echo 1 >>/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
* Install OpenVPN on all clients and point them to the outside NIC as the remote server
This way only VPNInside NIC packets will traverse your linux box, and everything will be encrypted with as big a key as you want. So you could just set up your AP without a WEP key and not worry (assuming you are using some key to encrypt the communications with OpenVPN, which you should). Have Fun!
Don't be stupid. If Microsoft has complete control of the format, they will alter it when the occasion arises to break everyone else's apps. Then they say , "Look these other programs are inferior because they don't support the full spec like we do." As has been done for many years.
It is only a belief. Just like our current scientific state, with the exception being that religion is based on unobserved (and possibly unobservable) axioms of universal processes. I don't think you can really provide an at worst scenario, if only because of my previous statement.
It would take an omnipotent being to prove that ANY theory/hypothesis is a fact/law. Every postulation can never be proven, if only because we cannot observe the universe in its continuity.
OK, Mr. or Mrs. Parent, why are you against this then? Its not stopping content from existing. Its keeping kids from being devious about getting games that you might want to have a say in them getting. You can't watch them 24/7. Exactly, what is the negative impact of this?
Pain is just the physical recognition of a condition which can potentially harm the body. Its obvious that most animals that run away from things that look like they would hurt, feel pain.
Tell your girlfriend that the browser is not performing any sort of color transformation to the images you see on the internet, and therefore the colors are off on most monitors. Also, digital implies approximation. Have you tried downloading the ICC profile for that monitor?
Whatever these predictions are spot on dude. Haven't you noticed how we've already set up a positive policy concerning treatment of "enhanced athletes" in the olympics;-).
Computers are starting to do all the work, with the exception being the available cheap labor (which in the US are: Mexicans [Local Labor], Indians [IT], Chinese [Manufacturing], and South Africans [Call Centers]). But unfortunately the only we that have much more leisure time are the business owners, as the rest of us are clamoring for a job, or pulling our hair out worrying that our position will be the next one deprecated for the next cheap outsourcers. In a way I'm glad the value of the American dollar is dropping. Makes us normal people more economically viable.
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Obviously, the disinterest in understanding one another's oppinions is blatantly more apparent in your statements, as you cannot prevent yourself from using insults, and other childish means of inadequate message portrayal. The fault of not differentiating your message as something that makes sense lies in your hands.
I am just trying to say, the Cell processor has multiple parts. Its almost like a mini computer. Among these parts is the Processing Unit, which IS the general purpose processor. And it also has these Attached Proccessing Units (APUs) which are highly parralellized piped VECTOR PROCESSORS just like GPUs. There may be a larger instruction set for the GPUs (possibly), but once it gets broken down into microinstructions they all do the EXACT SAME THING. GPUs are not magic, they are specialized hardware no doubt, but the distinction between hardware and software is just silicon.
If it doesn't beat it in a "head to head competition of brute force", then how exactly can they be better suited? They only put the GPU on there to begin with because the existing floating point units and interconnecting buses are far too inadequate to provide the necessary number crunching for modern 3d applications (well, also because video card manufacturers wanted to expand). So why would you still need them, if the Cell processor can do it better.
Additionally, I understand you're trying to say, "Its specialized hardware therefore its faster." Well, its not so specialized when you think about it. The main features of GPUs are basic math operations like dot products, muladds, matrix multiplies, in a very parrallel piped system. They might have other more complex instructions but inside the processor it gets broken down into these basic instructions and parrallelized anyways. So, theoretically the cells APUs do the exact same thing so what exactly is your point?
Additionally, those APUs do the exact same work as a GPU. They both specialize in number crunching, matrix operation, sin, cos, etc. And they both do it in a pipelined highly scaleable way. So whats the difference.
Additionally, I would love to get rid of the friggin' annoying graphics card with GPU on it design. Where you can't even get any kind of standard interface to it without going through their stupid drivers. I would love to have a regular video card (that only lays out pixels on my screen, you know what video cards used to do), just get a computer with a cell processor, and run a nice open source OpenGL implementation on top of that. This idea would scale up as far as they want to take it. Upgrading chips would no longer require new crappy drivers, because the OpenGL layer would be just a normal library not a driver anymore. New kind of effect needed then download the latest MesaGL optimized for Cell, things running too slow then get the newest Cell processor, Video card not high enough resolution upgrade video card. Simple.
Lets just assume for a second that the hype in the previously posted article on cell processors is not as much hype as it is fact. I understand custom hardware will usually perform more quickly than a software only combo. But to the speeds that these Cell processors can attain (remember it all breaks down to the same muladds, dot3s, matrix multiplies, that both of these types of hardware specialize in), about all they would need would be a video buffer and a texel/pixel filler. Keep the rest simple. If you look at it, all these shaders are very general purpose, thats why they have their own languages. The only thing that really breaks them out of requiring a really general purpose language is they require more pipelining than flow control, and apparently chaining sequences of operations together is something that these new cell processors can do like a pro. So whats your point?
That article is why I asked the question. Since, theoretically, this would be all we needed.
Why do you need a GPU in the graphics card, if it has 4 cell processors?
I know for a fact that this will have a positive effect for the linux community. People didn't move to Macs because they are more expensive, and there was no justification for the move. Conversely, moving to linux is very plausible, in certain instances, as it can be deployed at a far lower cost than Windows. The use of the Windows version of Evolution can be used as a migration tool by determined IT departments such as mine. But the main pusher will have to be the IT department itself, as they are the ones that have to win over the bean counters, because the bean counters don't know jack shit about this kind of thing.
Exactly so here is my method to solve this problem:
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
* Buy wireless AP and a linux box with 2 NICs
* Hook one NIC to your network the other NIC to the wireless AP
* Download and install OpenVPN on your linux box
* Setup iptables to DROP all packets being forwarded from the outside NIC to the inside and vice versa:
# Assuming:
# * eth0 is the outside NIC
# * eth1 is the inside NIC
# * Default iptables policy is ALLOW
# * Your linux kernel supports iptables,
# and routing
iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -j DROP
iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -j DROP
echo 1 >>
* Install OpenVPN on all clients and point them to the outside NIC as the remote server
This way only VPNInside NIC packets will traverse your linux box, and everything will be encrypted with as big a key as you want. So you could just set up your AP without a WEP key and not worry (assuming you are using some key to encrypt the communications with OpenVPN, which you should). Have Fun!
Well, that $50 in your pocket for their next game is your vote. Its just that people are overwhelmingly voting for them, purely out of ignorance.
Don't be stupid. If Microsoft has complete control of the format, they will alter it when the occasion arises to break everyone else's apps. Then they say , "Look these other programs are inferior because they don't support the full spec like we do." As has been done for many years.
It is only a belief. Just like our current scientific state, with the exception being that religion is based on unobserved (and possibly unobservable) axioms of universal processes. I don't think you can really provide an at worst scenario, if only because of my previous statement.
It would take an omnipotent being to prove that ANY theory/hypothesis is a fact/law. Every postulation can never be proven, if only because we cannot observe the universe in its continuity.
The future is now. Just build your linux kernel without module version checking, then modprobe -r (modules), and modprobe (modules). :-P
They shouldn't.
Yep.
I eat meat. I just didn't want you to get the impression that these animals we slaughter don't feel pain. Thats just idiotic.
OK, Mr. or Mrs. Parent, why are you against this then? Its not stopping content from existing. Its keeping kids from being devious about getting games that you might want to have a say in them getting. You can't watch them 24/7. Exactly, what is the negative impact of this?
Yeah Plasma TVs and HDTV is a real super innovation. Give me a break, this list is just a big ad.
Pain is just the physical recognition of a condition which can potentially harm the body. Its obvious that most animals that run away from things that look like they would hurt, feel pain.
Tell your girlfriend that the browser is not performing any sort of color transformation to the images you see on the internet, and therefore the colors are off on most monitors. Also, digital implies approximation. Have you tried downloading the ICC profile for that monitor?
Whatever these predictions are spot on dude. Haven't you noticed how we've already set up a positive policy concerning treatment of "enhanced athletes" in the olympics ;-).
Computers are starting to do all the work, with the exception being the available cheap labor (which in the US are: Mexicans [Local Labor], Indians [IT], Chinese [Manufacturing], and South Africans [Call Centers]). But unfortunately the only we that have much more leisure time are the business owners, as the rest of us are clamoring for a job, or pulling our hair out worrying that our position will be the next one deprecated for the next cheap outsourcers. In a way I'm glad the value of the American dollar is dropping. Makes us normal people more economically viable.